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Re: Require help with Google Hangouts with NVDA

ss sarfudeen
 

Dear members,

Thank you all for your responses. Will take a look. Having said that,
I would like to clarify if it works only with chrome and not with
Firefox or Internet Explorer.

Regards,

Sultana

On 6/3/20, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 12:40 PM, Arlene wrote:


I’m using windows xp NVDA 17.2
Then, depending on what web browser you use, you may or may not have access
to Google Hangouts (among many other things). IE8 has been blocked from a
huge number of sites for a long while now, but I do know there were at least
a couple of browsers that maintained compatibility with XP up until very
recently that should still work.

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Brian *-* Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363

*Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its
platform. Now, you simply declare your own truth.*

~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment
Took Hold in the United States (
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/23/health/anti-vaccination-movement-us.html
) , September 23, 2019




Re: Require help with Google Hangouts with NVDA

 

On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 12:40 PM, Arlene wrote:
I’m using windows xp NVDA 17.2
Then, depending on what web browser you use, you may or may not have access to Google Hangouts (among many other things).  IE8 has been blocked from a huge number of sites for a long while now, but I do know there were at least a couple of browsers that maintained compatibility with XP up until very recently that should still work.
 
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

      ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019

 

 


Re: Require help with Google Hangouts with NVDA

Arlene
 

Craziness. They should have left it at google hangouts.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Sarah k Alawami
Sent: June 3, 2020 9:33 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Require help with Google Hangouts with NVDA

 

Yes you can. I don't use keyboard commands, but personally I don't like google meets. Yes, that's what they are calling it now.

Take care

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On 3 Jun 2020, at 9:17, Arlene wrote:

T  use it myself. I have a google account I don’t have google hangouts.  I’m sure you can use it with any screen reader you have. 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: ss sarfudeen
Sent: June 3, 2020 5:26 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Require help with Google Hangouts with NVDA

 

Dear list members,

 

I would like to be able to use Google Hangouts with NVDA for a

meeting. I wish to know if it is possible to use Hangouts with Mozilla

Firefox and if so, where I can find and open it in gmail. Please

provide me the list of keyboard commands to make and answer video

calls by accepting invitations and send and receive messages. Your

valuable assistance is greatly appreciated.

 

Thanking you all in advance,

 

Sultana

 

 

 

 


Re: Require help with Google Hangouts with NVDA

 

On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 12:33 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
I don't like google meets. Yes, that's what they are calling it now.
No, they're not.  Google Meet is a product line all its own, launched since the Covid-19 pandemic started, that's meant to compete with Zoom, Microsoft Teams, and the like.

Hangouts still exists as a completely separate product, though it's said Google intends to discontinue it.  Heaven knows they've done that before.  Voice (which still exists, but is virtually never talked about other than to get a phone number) was replaced by Hangouts and now that's going to be replaced by something else.  But if it's Google Meet that has not occurred as of yet.
 
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

      ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019

 

 


Re: Require help with Google Hangouts with NVDA

Arlene
 

Yes, I’ve seen it.  I never really took the time to look it over fully. I’m using windows xp NVDA 17.2  Have a good day.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Brian Vogel
Sent: June 3, 2020 9:36 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Require help with Google Hangouts with NVDA

 

Arlene, just FYI, if you have a Google Account you "have" Google Hangouts, though you may or may not have or use the Hangouts App for the Google Chrome Browser or have a Google Voice Phone Number that would allow you to be called by someone else.

Anyone with a Google Account can open the page hangouts.google.com in the web browser of their choosing and be able to make phone calls within the USA and Canada at no charge, make video calls to other Google Account holders, and, now, get into Google Meetings.   You can also send a text message from Hangouts, but only if you have signed up for a Google Voice number and allow Hangouts to use it.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

      ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019

 

 

 


Re: Require help with Google Hangouts with NVDA

 

Arlene, just FYI, if you have a Google Account you "have" Google Hangouts, though you may or may not have or use the Hangouts App for the Google Chrome Browser or have a Google Voice Phone Number that would allow you to be called by someone else.

Anyone with a Google Account can open the page hangouts.google.com in the web browser of their choosing and be able to make phone calls within the USA and Canada at no charge, make video calls to other Google Account holders, and, now, get into Google Meetings.   You can also send a text message from Hangouts, but only if you have signed up for a Google Voice number and allow Hangouts to use it.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

      ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019

 

 


Re: Require help with Google Hangouts with NVDA

Sarah k Alawami
 

Yes you can. I don't use keyboard commands, but personally I don't like google meets. Yes, that's what they are calling it now.

Take care

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website.

to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on [twitch.](http://twitch.tv/ke7zum] Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.

For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page and my tffp lbry page You will also be able to buy some of my products and eBooks there.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 3 Jun 2020, at 9:17, Arlene wrote:

T  use it myself. I have a google account I don’t have google hangouts.  I’m sure you can use it with any screen reader you have. 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: ss sarfudeen
Sent: June 3, 2020 5:26 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Require help with Google Hangouts with NVDA

 

Dear list members,

 

I would like to be able to use Google Hangouts with NVDA for a

meeting. I wish to know if it is possible to use Hangouts with Mozilla

Firefox and if so, where I can find and open it in gmail. Please

provide me the list of keyboard commands to make and answer video

calls by accepting invitations and send and receive messages. Your

valuable assistance is greatly appreciated.

 

Thanking you all in advance,

 

Sultana

 

 

 


Re: Require help with Google Hangouts with NVDA

Arlene
 

T  use it myself. I have a google account I don’t have google hangouts.  I’m sure you can use it with any screen reader you have. 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: ss sarfudeen
Sent: June 3, 2020 5:26 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Require help with Google Hangouts with NVDA

 

Dear list members,

 

I would like to be able to use Google Hangouts with NVDA for a

meeting. I wish to know if it is possible to use Hangouts with Mozilla

Firefox and if so, where I can find and open it in gmail. Please

provide me the list of keyboard commands to make and answer video

calls by accepting invitations and send and receive messages. Your

valuable assistance is greatly appreciated.

 

Thanking you all in advance,

 

Sultana

 

 

 


Re: Require help with Google Hangouts with NVDA

 

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Using+Google+Hangouts+with+a+screen+reader

Then start reading.  Google publishes extensive accessibility documentation for virtually every product it makes, and Hangouts is among those.  There's nothing like going to the source, and a simple web search takes you straight to it.

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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

      ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019

 

 


backround tracker

Engin Albayrak <mealbayrak@...>
 

Hello, I was sometimes using backround tracker ad-on to track updates of some window. But, it is not developung and not running new nvda. Do You know any ad-on has similar funktionality?

Thanks.


NVDA and Creating Anchor Text?

David Russell
 

Hello Members,

I write general articles for a major freelance service, and
sporadically, an order may appear in the work pool asking for
something that includes "anchor text." I did not choose to take the
order, because my Google research revealed that best practices shows
anchor text in blue. I do not know if the program used by the
freelance service has an option to select colored text.
In the future, is there an HTML guide that will instruct one on how to
create anchor text that automatically fills in whatever is necessary?

Thanks in advance. I do receive the digest version of group emails.

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david.sonofhashem@gmail.com


Re: NVDA becoming unresponsive in Microsoft Teams

David Goldfield
 

This problem is not just an NVDA issue but is more of a problem with Teams and it's one which Microsoft is aware of, although I'm somewhat mystified that it's taken this long for a fix to be deployed to production.

One way to get Teams to cooperate when accessibility seems to break down is to resize the window. In other words, press Windows-down arrow to minimize it and then restore or maximize it again. This should get Teams to resume communicating with your screen reader.

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org
On 6/3/2020 12:52 AM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

This I believe has ben discussed on this group, if not it has ben discussed on my ttwitter feed as well. I would search at least on the group to see and on github as well.

Take care

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website.

to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on [twitch.](http://twitch.tv/ke7zum] Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.

For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page and my tffp lbry page You will also be able to buy some of my products and eBooks there.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 2 Jun 2020, at 21:29, Luke Robinett wrote:

The conferencing/chat app Microsoft Teams is generally fairly accessible, but I’m experiencing a recurring issue. After a certain amount of time with the app loaded, eventually NVDA will no longer narrate the contents of the Teams GUI when using the tab key and Teams shortcut keys. When this happens, the only way to navigate the app is with object navigation. If I close and relaunch Teams it starts working again.

This happens frequently, but I can’t quite pin down a specific condition or amount of time that triggers it. Sometimes it happens out of the blue, other times it seems to happen after I’ve shared my desktop on a call.

I’ve tried restarting NVDA but it doesn’t fix it. I’ve also tried NVDA key + F5 to refresh the virtual buffer but still nothing. Can anyone think of any other troubleshooting steps I can try? Having to restart Teams is not ideal, as I’m often in the middle of a work conference and that’s akin to walking out of the room. Lol. Especially annoying/embarrassing when I’m trying to share content.

 


Require help with Google Hangouts with NVDA

ss sarfudeen
 

Dear list members,

I would like to be able to use Google Hangouts with NVDA for a
meeting. I wish to know if it is possible to use Hangouts with Mozilla
Firefox and if so, where I can find and open it in gmail. Please
provide me the list of keyboard commands to make and answer video
calls by accepting invitations and send and receive messages. Your
valuable assistance is greatly appreciated.

Thanking you all in advance,

Sultana


Re: NeedSolution in auto open search

Quentin Christensen
 

In Windows 10, when you press the Windows key it opens the start menu, but the focus will likely go to the search (Cortana) edit.  You can either arrow or tab and move past the edit, or type what you want to find.  EG if you type Word, it will find Microsoft Word (if installed), WordPad and anything else with Word in the name.  It will also find documents and settings.

Regards

Quentin.

On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 3:15 PM Meet modi <meetmodi2359@...> wrote:

Hello, I need solution in my computer.
When I try to start my computer Cortana and it's search edit box automatically open and I can't able too perform any task suggest me.
What can I do in this situation.



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Training and Support Manager


Re: Inconsistency between reading paragraph numbers and reading attributes

Marquette, Ed
 

OK

 

It tends to happen pretty reliably.  I’ll first turn off add-ins.  Then, I’ll send you a typical document-without privileged information.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2020 9:40 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Inconsistency between reading paragraph numbers and reading attributes

 

[ CAUTION - EXTERNAL SENDER ]

I just tried this and it seems to work fine for me.  I was reading the Microsoft Word with NVDA material which has headings with styles with numbering.  I'm using Office 365 (64-bit) Version: 16.0.12730.20256  and NVDA 2020.1

 

If you restart NVDA with add-ons disabled does it still do it?  If you've got a document you can reliably repeat with, would it be possible to confidentially send me a copy of it offlist please?

Kind regards,

 

Quentin.

 

On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 12:30 AM Marquette, Ed <ed.marquette@...> wrote:

I have found that, when enabling one of the features in document formatting (control+ NVDA + d), I lose the reading of paragraph numbers in MS Word 2016 under Windows 10 and NVDA 19.3.
To clarify, the numbers are added automatically by the selected MS Word styles.  I thought it was enunciation of indentations, but the same occurred when just having attributes such as "bold" or "italics" enunciated.
If indents, attributes, and styles are turned off, NVDA reads the paragraph numbers just fine.
I have not been able to isolate the behavior for certain, but I believe each of the above-three settings will nullify number reading.
Suggestions are welcome.





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NeedSolution in auto open search

Meet modi
 

Hello, I need solution in my computer.
When I try to start my computer Cortana and it's search edit box automatically open and I can't able too perform any task suggest me.
What can I do in this situation.


Re: NVDA becoming unresponsive in Microsoft Teams

Sarah k Alawami
 

This I believe has ben discussed on this group, if not it has ben discussed on my ttwitter feed as well. I would search at least on the group to see and on github as well.

Take care

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website.

to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on [twitch.](http://twitch.tv/ke7zum] Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.

For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page and my tffp lbry page You will also be able to buy some of my products and eBooks there.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 2 Jun 2020, at 21:29, Luke Robinett wrote:

The conferencing/chat app Microsoft Teams is generally fairly accessible, but I’m experiencing a recurring issue. After a certain amount of time with the app loaded, eventually NVDA will no longer narrate the contents of the Teams GUI when using the tab key and Teams shortcut keys. When this happens, the only way to navigate the app is with object navigation. If I close and relaunch Teams it starts working again.

This happens frequently, but I can’t quite pin down a specific condition or amount of time that triggers it. Sometimes it happens out of the blue, other times it seems to happen after I’ve shared my desktop on a call.

I’ve tried restarting NVDA but it doesn’t fix it. I’ve also tried NVDA key + F5 to refresh the virtual buffer but still nothing. Can anyone think of any other troubleshooting steps I can try? Having to restart Teams is not ideal, as I’m often in the middle of a work conference and that’s akin to walking out of the room. Lol. Especially annoying/embarrassing when I’m trying to share content.

 


NVDA becoming unresponsive in Microsoft Teams

Luke Robinett
 

The conferencing/chat app Microsoft Teams is generally fairly accessible, but I’m experiencing a recurring issue. After a certain amount of time with the app loaded, eventually NVDA will no longer narrate the contents of the Teams GUI when using the tab key and Teams shortcut keys. When this happens, the only way to navigate the app is with object navigation. If I close and relaunch Teams it starts working again.

This happens frequently, but I can’t quite pin down a specific condition or amount of time that triggers it. Sometimes it happens out of the blue, other times it seems to happen after I’ve shared my desktop on a call.

I’ve tried restarting NVDA but it doesn’t fix it. I’ve also tried NVDA key + F5 to refresh the virtual buffer but still nothing. Can anyone think of any other troubleshooting steps I can try? Having to restart Teams is not ideal, as I’m often in the middle of a work conference and that’s akin to walking out of the room. Lol. Especially annoying/embarrassing when I’m trying to share content.

 


Re: Remotely controlling a computer with zoom while using NVDA

Luke Robinett
 

I know in other remote desktop situations, the remote machine needs to be running the screen reader in order for it to work, and the person needs to make sure they're sharing with audio. Might be interesting to have your friend load Windows Narrator then share their screen with you with PC audio enabled. I wonder if it would respond to your keyboard gestures.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2020 7:50 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Remotely controlling a computer with zoom while using NVDA

I know there is a share video and a share audio and I believe it may allow someone to see and perhaps do things with a remote computer, I'm not sure.
But my impression is that this is purely visual. Once when a sighted friend and I were expeerimenting with share audio, he told me he could see my Winamp interface. He didn't try to do anything with it and when he shared something, though I didn't specifically try, I doubt I could see his interface in a way accessible to a screen-reader.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
-----Original Message-----
From: mohammad suliman
Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2020 4:54 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Remotely controlling a computer with zoom while using NVDA


Hello all,
Hope all are doing well!

I have some question regarding zoom and NVDA: I am interested to remotely
control a computer with zoom, but I have a problem doing so because to do
this, I need to click with the mouse in the shared screen area of the person
I want to control his / her machine. So I am wondering if there is a way to
do this with NVDA accessibly? Has anyone done this successfully?

Any tip will be appreciated!
thank you!
Mohammad


Re: trouble with clickable elements

Steve Green
 

The competition has closed so I can’t see that particular code now, but from an accessibility perspective the coding is pretty horrid throughout the website.

 

For example, pages are entirely empty if JavaScript is turned off or fails to load for any reason. Although almost everyone has JavaScript enabled, this is still disgusting from a software engineering perspective. Have these people not heard of progressive enhancement? Or even graceful degradation? There are massive swathes of JavaScript on a website that needs virtually none at all. Heaven knows what it’s all doing.

 

They haven’t even applied any semantic structure, and they have done stupid things like adding HTML attributes to change links into buttons. They should throw it away and start again.

 

Steve Green

Managing Director

Test Partners Ltd

6681 - 6700 of 80945