is there a list to discuss NVDA add-ons
Dennis L
Is there an email list to discuss NVDA Add-ons? If so what is the subscription info? Thanks.
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Re: NVDA doesn't always see buttons on a web page
Dennis L
That worked pressing o then enter it said button is there a way to label the unlabeled button?
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2017 5:16 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA doesn't always see buttons on a web page
the play button may be a control in a Flash player. Try going to the page, then make sure you are at the top, Type the letter o and see if you land on an embedded object. Press enter and try tabbing and shift tabbing. Do you see any buttons? Also, if that doesn't work, start over. Close and reopen the browser, go to the web page again, make sure you are at the top then type o to move to the embedded object. Now route the mouse to the current location of the object navigator with the command numpad insert numpad slash, the same key as for left click. Now press numpad slash by itself to left click the embedded object. Does the file start to play?
Remember two things when following these instructions for working with the mouse. First, before starting the second set of instructions, make sure you are in object review. Issue the command numpad insert numpad 1. If you hear somethin like no previous review, you will already be in object review. If you hear something that isn't object review but some other review, continue to issue the command until you get to object review.
Remember not to press enter on the embedded object. And one more thing: When I said to start over and close the browser, then open it and go to the page again, I did so to avoid any possible problems. I wanted you to start from the beginning so we both knew exactly what you were doing. But when not learning from these instructions, you don't have to do that. You can, as I recall, return to the page by using a book mark without closing the browser first. That will save you time. But if you can't get the file to play, you can try closing the browser first to see if that makes any difference. you can't get the file to play, you can close the browser, as I said initially.
Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: Dennis L Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2017 3:51 PM Subject: [nvda] NVDA doesn't always see buttons on a web page
Hi, NVDA doesn’t see the play button on a webpage however Jaws sees it. What is the reason for this?
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Re: NVDA doesn't always see buttons on a web page
Gene
Numpad insert is the large almost square on the
bottom row of the Numpad.
Gene
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From: Dennis L
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2017 6:57 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA doesn't always see buttons on a web
page What is the numpad key? I know where the insert key is but not the numpad key.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
the play button may be a control in a Flash player. Try going to the page, then make sure you are at the top, Type the letter o and see if you land on an embedded object. Press enter and try tabbing and shift tabbing. Do you see any buttons? Also, if that doesn't work, start over. Close and reopen the browser, go to the web page again, make sure you are at the top then type o to move to the embedded object. Now route the mouse to the current location of the object navigator with the command numpad insert numpad slash, the same key as for left click. Now press numpad slash by itself to left click the embedded object. Does the file start to play?
Remember two things when following these instructions for working with the mouse. First, before starting the second set of instructions, make sure you are in object review. Issue the command numpad insert numpad 1. If you hear somethin like no previous review, you will already be in object review. If you hear something that isn't object review but some other review, continue to issue the command until you get to object review.
Remember not to press enter on the embedded object. And one more thing: When I said to start over and close the browser, then open it and go to the page again, I did so to avoid any possible problems. I wanted you to start from the beginning so we both knew exactly what you were doing. But when not learning from these instructions, you don't have to do that. You can, as I recall, return to the page by using a book mark without closing the browser first. That will save you time. But if you can't get the file to play, you can try closing the browser first to see if that makes any difference. you can't get the file to play, you can close the browser, as I said initially.
Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: Dennis L Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2017 3:51 PM Subject: [nvda] NVDA doesn't always see buttons on a web page
Hi, NVDA doesn’t see the play button on a webpage however Jaws sees it. What is the reason for this?
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Re: NVDA doesn't always see buttons on a web page
Ron Canazzi
Hi Group,
Another technique that works on a few pages where NVDA does not see or does not activate buttons is to move to just before where the button is located and then to switch to edit mode with insert + space bar. ten use the tab key to move to the button or sometimes it will say clickable item. Then press space bar or enter and sometimes a player or link will be activated. I see this with the Tunein website for premium content.
On 1/24/2017 5:15 PM, Gene wrote:
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Re: Firefox memory loss syndrome
Pascal Lambert
Hi Brian,
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I am encountering the same thing. Also, NVDA says "item not found" when the PC reaches the desktop and I have to hit "m-window-key" to restore the desktop. I am also losing the voice for while when I move the cursors faster to skim through the page or the file explorer for that matter. I don't know if it is NVDA or Win10 problem. The fact of the matter is NVDA and Win10 combo is not as stable as it used to be with Windows 7. Your thoughts please. On another topic, I have a laptop for which I cannot remember the password and I failed to make a rescue disk. Any help is greatly appreciated. It is an Acer laptop with Win10. Blessings. Pascal
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian's Mail list account Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2017 2:35 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] Firefox memory loss syndrome Why is it that Firefox seems to sometimes say it cannot find a page but on doing a refresh it can. Now sighted people say they do not see this at all, yet it happens all the time to me and I was wondering if nvda was making it miss the page address or something. Its normally when launched by another piece of software. Brian bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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Re: NVDA doesn't always see buttons on a web page
Rosemarie Chavarria
The insert key is the numpad zero. If your caps lock is on, the insert key
becomes zero on the numpad. That’s part of the keys on the number pad. That’s
what’s meant by the numpad keys.
Hope this helps.
Rosemarie
From: Dennis L
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2017 4:57 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA doesn't always see buttons on a web
page What is the numpad key? I know where the insert key is but not the numpad key.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
the play button may be a control in a Flash player. Try going to the page, then make sure you are at the top, Type the letter o and see if you land on an embedded object. Press enter and try tabbing and shift tabbing. Do you see any buttons? Also, if that doesn't work, start over. Close and reopen the browser, go to the web page again, make sure you are at the top then type o to move to the embedded object. Now route the mouse to the current location of the object navigator with the command numpad insert numpad slash, the same key as for left click. Now press numpad slash by itself to left click the embedded object. Does the file start to play?
Remember two things when following these instructions for working with the mouse. First, before starting the second set of instructions, make sure you are in object review. Issue the command numpad insert numpad 1. If you hear somethin like no previous review, you will already be in object review. If you hear something that isn't object review but some other review, continue to issue the command until you get to object review.
Remember not to press enter on the embedded object. And one more thing: When I said to start over and close the browser, then open it and go to the page again, I did so to avoid any possible problems. I wanted you to start from the beginning so we both knew exactly what you were doing. But when not learning from these instructions, you don't have to do that. You can, as I recall, return to the page by using a book mark without closing the browser first. That will save you time. But if you can't get the file to play, you can try closing the browser first to see if that makes any difference. you can't get the file to play, you can close the browser, as I said initially.
Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: Dennis L Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2017 3:51 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] NVDA doesn't always see buttons on a web page
Hi, NVDA doesn’t see the play button on a webpage however Jaws sees it. What is the reason for this?
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Re: NVDA doesn't always see buttons on a web page
Quentin Christensen
Gene means the keys on the number pad. In fact, when referring to "numpad insert", commands should work with whichever key you have set as the NVDA modifier key (numpad insert is the 0 on the number pad and "extended insert", is the key in the group "insert", "delete", home", "end", "page up", "page down" on a full sized keyboard). Note also the command for switching to the previous review mode - NVDA+numpad 1, is the desktop layout command. If you are using laptop keyboard layout, then it's NVDA+page down. The command for clicking the left mouse button, is numpad Divide in desktop layout and NVDA+[ in laptop layout. Kind regards Quentin.
On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 11:57 AM, Dennis L <dennisl1982@...> wrote:
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Re: NVDA doesn't always see buttons on a web page
Dennis L
What is the numpad key? I know where the insert key is but not the numpad key.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2017 5:16 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA doesn't always see buttons on a web page
the play button may be a control in a Flash player. Try going to the page, then make sure you are at the top, Type the letter o and see if you land on an embedded object. Press enter and try tabbing and shift tabbing. Do you see any buttons? Also, if that doesn't work, start over. Close and reopen the browser, go to the web page again, make sure you are at the top then type o to move to the embedded object. Now route the mouse to the current location of the object navigator with the command numpad insert numpad slash, the same key as for left click. Now press numpad slash by itself to left click the embedded object. Does the file start to play?
Remember two things when following these instructions for working with the mouse. First, before starting the second set of instructions, make sure you are in object review. Issue the command numpad insert numpad 1. If you hear somethin like no previous review, you will already be in object review. If you hear something that isn't object review but some other review, continue to issue the command until you get to object review.
Remember not to press enter on the embedded object. And one more thing: When I said to start over and close the browser, then open it and go to the page again, I did so to avoid any possible problems. I wanted you to start from the beginning so we both knew exactly what you were doing. But when not learning from these instructions, you don't have to do that. You can, as I recall, return to the page by using a book mark without closing the browser first. That will save you time. But if you can't get the file to play, you can try closing the browser first to see if that makes any difference. you can't get the file to play, you can close the browser, as I said initially.
Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: Dennis L Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2017 3:51 PM Subject: [nvda] NVDA doesn't always see buttons on a web page
Hi, NVDA doesn’t see the play button on a webpage however Jaws sees it. What is the reason for this?
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Windows 10 App Essentials add-on 17.02 released
Hi all,
I’m delighted to announce the immediate release of Windows 10 app Essentials 17.02. Note that this release requires NVDA 2016.4 or later.
Release page: https://github.com/josephsl/wintenApps/releases/tag/17.02
Changelog: • Added ability to check for add-on updates (automatic or manual) via the new Windows 10 App Essentials dialog found in NVDA Preferences menu. By default, stable and development versions will check for new updates automatically on a weekly or daily basis, respectively. • Support for Windows Defender Security Center in build 15007 or later. Windows Defender in build 14986 is also supported. • NVDA can announce suggestion count when performing a search in majority of cases. This option is controlled by "Report object position information" in Object presentation dialog. • Mail: When reviewing items in messages list, you can now use table navigation commands to review message headers. • Skype Preview: NVDA will no longer announce "Skype Message" when reviewing messages for majority of cases. • Store: When downloading content such as apps and movies, NVDA will announce product name and download progress.
Enjoy. Cheers, Joseph
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Re: NVDA doesn't always see buttons on a web page
Gene
the play button may be a control in a Flash
player. Try going to the page, then make sure you are at the top,
Type the letter o and see if you land on an embedded object. Press enter
and try tabbing and shift tabbing. Do you see any buttons? Also, if
that doesn't work, start over. Close and reopen the browser, go to the web
page again, make sure you are at the top then type o to move to the embedded
object. Now route the mouse to the current location of the object
navigator with the command numpad insert numpad slash, the same key as for left
click.
Now press numpad slash by itself to left click the
embedded object. Does the file start to play?
Remember two things when following these
instructions for working with the mouse. First, before starting the second set of instructions, make sure you
are in object review. Issue the command numpad insert numpad 1. If
you hear somethin like no previous review, you will already be in object
review. If you hear something that isn't object review but some other
review, continue to issue the command until you get to object review.
Remember not to press enter on
the embedded object.
And one more thing:
When I said to start over and
close the browser, then open it and go to the page again, I did so to avoid any
possible problems. I wanted you to start from the beginning so we both
knew exactly what you were doing. But when not learning from these
instructions, you don't have to do that. You can, as I recall, return to
the page by using a book mark without closing the browser first. That will
save you time. But if you can't get the file to play, you can try closing
the browser first to see if that makes any difference. you can't get the
file to play, you can close the browser, as I said initially.
Gene
----- Original Message
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From: Dennis L
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2017 3:51 PM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA doesn't always see buttons on a web
page Hi, NVDA doesn’t see the play button on a webpage however Jaws sees it. What is the reason for this?
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NVDA doesn't always see buttons on a web page
Dennis L
Hi, NVDA doesn’t see the play button on a webpage however Jaws sees it. What is the reason for this?
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Re: Problems with Firefox
Gene
I forgot to point out that using a different
browser on the site might work around the problem as well. Internet
Explorer or Chrome might render the text correctly when you review it and you
may want to write directly in the edit field using a different
browser.
Gene
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Subject: Re: [nvda] Problems with Firefox I write posts on this list from an email client not a web browser via the web. That way lies madness usually. Brian bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arnþór Helgason" <arnthor.helgason@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2017 4:54 PM Subject: [nvda] Problems with Firefox > It has become rather annoying to write posts in Firefox. > > > When I read over my text for editing only one word is in each word so the > text looks like a column. > Any ideas? > > Arnthor > > -- > --- > > Arnþór Helgason, > Vináttusendiherra/Friendship Ambassador > Formaður/chairman > Kínversk-íslenska menningarfélagsins > Icelandic Chinese Cultural Society > Tjarnarbóli 14, > 170 Seltjarnarnesi. > Sími | Phone: +354 5611703 > Farsími | Mobile: +354 8973766 > arnthor.helgason@... > arnthor.helgason@... > kim@... > > http://kim.is > http://arnthorhelgason.blog.is > http://hljod.blog.is > > > >
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Re: Problems with Firefox
Gene
Have you determined whether this is an NVDA problem
or something else? it is valuable to have another screen-reader such as a
JAWS demo to test with. At times, on rare web pages, I see something that
is incorrectly rendered with one screen-reader that is correctly rendered with
another.
Until or unless the problem is solved, the easiest thing
to do might be to write whatever you want to write in Notepad, then copy it to
the clipboard once you are satisfied with it, then paste it into the edit field
on the site you are working with. If you want to have it read once it is
in the edit field, use read to end since there is only one word on a line.
I said notepad because a word processor shouldn't be
used. A text editor like Notepad puts no formatting in the text.
That means that when you paste it into the edit field of the web site, the site
can format it however it wishes. Gene
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Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2017 1:31 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problems with Firefox I write posts on this list from an email client not a web browser via the web. That way lies madness usually. Brian bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arnþór Helgason" <arnthor.helgason@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2017 4:54 PM Subject: [nvda] Problems with Firefox > It has become rather annoying to write posts in Firefox. > > > When I read over my text for editing only one word is in each word so the > text looks like a column. > Any ideas? > > Arnthor > > -- > --- > > Arnþór Helgason, > Vináttusendiherra/Friendship Ambassador > Formaður/chairman > Kínversk-íslenska menningarfélagsins > Icelandic Chinese Cultural Society > Tjarnarbóli 14, > 170 Seltjarnarnesi. > Sími | Phone: +354 5611703 > Farsími | Mobile: +354 8973766 > arnthor.helgason@... > arnthor.helgason@... > kim@... > > http://kim.is > http://arnthorhelgason.blog.is > http://hljod.blog.is > > > >
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Re: Firefox memory loss syndrome
Antony Stone
What's the exact message Firefox shows you when it says it can't find a page?
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There's often some useful technical detail in those messages to suggest whether it's a problem with the browser, the DNS lookup, the network connection, or the remote server. Somewhat ironically, I find there are increasing problems with "cannot load page" these days, since Content Delivery Networks (lots of computers all doing the same job, to cater for the enormous number of requests they're supposed to be getting) have become more commonplace. Also, when you say "sighted people say they do not see this at all", do you mean: - they don't see this problem on their computer, nothing to do with yours - they don't see the error message on your computer, when you can - they don't see a problem (they se the page) on your computer, when you see the error message Different behaviour between two computers both trying to do the same thing (even at the same time) often doesn't help to identify what the problem is with one of them. Regards, Antony.
On Tuesday 24 January 2017 at 20:34:33, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
Why is it that Firefox seems to sometimes say it cannot find a page but on --
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Firefox memory loss syndrome
Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
Why is it that Firefox seems to sometimes say it cannot find a page but on doing a refresh it can. Now sighted people say they do not see this at all, yet it happens all the time to me and I was wondering if nvda was making it miss the page address or something. Its normally when launched by another piece of software.
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Re: Problems with Firefox
Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
Posts in what and all of that?
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I write posts on this list from an email client not a web browser via the web. That way lies madness usually. Brian bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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From: "Arnþór Helgason" <arnthor.helgason@gmail.com> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2017 4:54 PM Subject: [nvda] Problems with Firefox It has become rather annoying to write posts in Firefox.
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Re: Problems with Firefox
Nimer Jaber
Hello, Are you using NVDA to write these posts? Where are the posts being written?
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Problems with Firefox
Arnþór Helgason
It has become rather annoying to write posts in Firefox.
When I read over my text for editing only one word is in each word so the text looks like a column. Any ideas? Arnthor -- --- Arnþór Helgason, Vináttusendiherra/Friendship Ambassador Formaður/chairman Kínversk-íslenska menningarfélagsins Icelandic Chinese Cultural Society Tjarnarbóli 14, 170 Seltjarnarnesi. Sími | Phone: +354 5611703 Farsími | Mobile: +354 8973766 arnthor.helgason@simnet.is arnthor.helgason@gmail.com kim@kim.is http://kim.is http://arnthorhelgason.blog.is http://hljod.blog.is
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Re: Version archive?
Damien Garwood
Hi,
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I did find that page in my search but it only offers me .zip files, so wasn't sure if that was only the source versions. Cheers. Damien.
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From: Antony Stone Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2017 2:16 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Version archive? They're on github: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/releases Antony. On Tuesday 24 January 2017 at 15:06:56, Damien Sykes-Lindley wrote: Hi,-- "In fact I wanted to be John Cleese and it took me some time to realise that the job was already taken." - Douglas Adams Please reply to the list; please *don't* CC me.
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Re: accessible email clients with NVDA
Gene
Here is a link to download the older menu version
of Windows Live Mail. The newer version can be downloaded from the
Microsoft site. If you need help finding it, let the list
know.
Gene
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From: kavein thran
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2017 11:28 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible email clients with NVDA can someone send the older menu version of life mail and the ribbon version of the same? On 1/24/17, marvin kotler <m.kotler53@...> wrote: > nvda@groups.io This is Marvin kotler. I have a new computer running > windows 10 and it is working fine. > > > From: Monte Single > Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 3:46 PM > To: nvda@nvda.groups.io > Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible email clients with NVDA > > Ive been using m s outlook with nvad for 5 or 6 years stable. You just need > to get outlook set to the configuration that works for you. I have the > message preview turned off; basicly I just have all the folders showing on > the left and the messages, arranged the way I like, showing on the rest of > the screen. Less stuff for nvda to report on. > > > > From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Arlene > Sent: January-22-17 3:40 PM > To: nvda@nvda.groups.io > Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible email clients with NVDA > > > > Hey, If I do upgrade to ten using a new computer. Can I still use outlook > 2010? > > > > From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian > Vogel > Sent: January-22-17 7:44 AM > To: nvda@nvda.groups.io > Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible email clients with NVDA > > > > On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 12:39 am, Brian's Mail list account wrote: > > I just don't like Live mail, its too messy and keeps on losing its mail. > > While your first assertion is unquestionably correct for you, your second > one is just your opinion and the third one has never - I repeat - never - > happened in my experience. I've had a lot of clients who use WLM and have > it running alongside Outlook 2010, Thunderbird, and Opera Mail, the last of > which is an accessibility nightmare not to mention barely customizable, much > like the Windows 10 mail app. > -- > Brian > > If you think that you can think about a thing, inextricably attached to > something else, without thinking of the thing it is attached to, then you > have a legal mind. > > ~ Thomas Reed Powell > > > > >
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