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Re: Possible keyboard echo issues, can anyone confirm or deny, please?

Andre Fisher
 

This happens in Internet Explorer fields like Google Search as well.

On 8/2/16, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
By the keyboard issue, I now know you mean the issue of reading the
uncorrected text. But you already know you corrected it so why go through
all the trouble and time of uninstalling the old program, installing the new
program, importing the account or creating it, and learning the new layout?
If you want to do so, that's your decision but that's a lot of time to spend
to correct what I consider to be a very small problem. And if you want to
be sure you corrected a word as you intend, just move back to hear it with
control left arrow.
The cursor will be at the beginning of the word, as I expect you know and
what is actually on the screen will be spoken. then jump to the end of the
word with control right arrow. You should be back where you started. So if
you jump back a word after you write it and space, using control right arrow
will place you in position to write the next word.

Also, one person has indicated that in the anniversary edition of Windows
10, the mail app works much bbetter. It might make more sense to wait until
you are upgraded, download a current snapshot of NVDA and try the app. I
don't know what there may be to learn about using it but it can't be
difficult.
Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Rajmund
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2016 8:20 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Possible keyboard echo issues, can anyone confirm or
deny, please?


1) No, it doesn't happen anywhere else. 2) When I send the email, it looks
fine, and it's fine when reading, too. 3) Yes, I can.

Sent from my iPhone 5S

On 3 Aug 2016, at 12:13 am, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...>
wrote:


Can you confirm please:


1) Is this happening in any other program (eg notepad, Word etc)
2) Is the text actually being corrected (ie if you copy the text into say
notepad, is the letter you thought you deleted there or not)
3) Can you perform the same correction in other programs (eg notepad)


And yes, if anyone else is running the same setup and confirm whether they
are also having this issue, that would be great.


Regards


Quentin.


On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 10:05 PM, Rajmund <brajmund2000@...> wrote:

Hi All,
First, I can not be sure of this, as I have not played with it, so if
this is normal, please forgive me. But, if it is normal, it certainly is
annoying. But, in case it is not normal, here's what's happening.
I have installed windows live mail 2009, the one with the menus, on
windows 10. NVDA 2016.2.1, I think. I have tried this with the acapella
demo, and a few others. Now, say you're writing a message, and you make
spelling mistakes. For example, instead of an l, you write a k. No problem,
you backspace. But, at last, when you finish the word, and, press space,
speech will say hekloo or helklo, or wherever you got the k instead of the
l, instead of hello. In other words, despite the fact that I have deleted
k, the k is still pronounced by speech. I've not tried eSpeak yet, but,
honestly, when I played with outlook 2010 a little yesterday, I can't recall
outlook doing the same, and I have to admit, if it has, I'm pretty sure
others would have raised it by now.
So my questions:
1) Is this a bug, or normal?
2) Is there some sort of a work around, other than changing clients?
Thanks!

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Re: Outlook 2016 issue

Gene
 

It may not help but you could try putting the phrase in the speech dictionary and then placing a space in the pronounced as field.  Do you hear these announcements when you use read current line or only when you move?  If you hear them using read current line, then have the announcements spelled to make sure you get all the characters and spaces where they should be.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2016 1:02 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Outlook 2016 issue

I have the same problem.  I posted about it on this list several days ago.

 

To the best of  my knowledge there is no way to get rid of this annoying notation.

 

Dan

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of George McCoy
Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2016 10:41 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Outlook 2016 issue

 

A friend of mine is running windows 10 64 bit professional.  He has not received the anniversary update.  He is running outlook 2016 via office 365.  He is running nvda 2016.2.1.  He has the latest wintenapps add-on.

 

When he arrows down through his list of messages, the following is prepended to each listing:

Associated Draft No Associated Drafts,

After which he hears what he expects to hear; the from and subject fields and the date received and so forth.

He can review the prepended characters with the numPad keys.  He got someone to look at his screen and they report that the prepended characters do not appear visually.

 

We tried running nvda without add-ons and uninstalling and reinstalling nvda without success.

 

Has anyone else experienced this behavior and, if so, is there a way to stop it?

 

Thanks very much for any thoughts,

George

Re: Outlook 2016 issue

Dan Kerstetter
 

I have the same problem.  I posted about it on this list several days ago.

 

To the best of  my knowledge there is no way to get rid of this annoying notation.

 

Dan

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of George McCoy
Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2016 10:41 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Outlook 2016 issue

 

A friend of mine is running windows 10 64 bit professional.  He has not received the anniversary update.  He is running outlook 2016 via office 365.  He is running nvda 2016.2.1.  He has the latest wintenapps add-on.

 

When he arrows down through his list of messages, the following is prepended to each listing:

Associated Draft No Associated Drafts,

After which he hears what he expects to hear; the from and subject fields and the date received and so forth.

He can review the prepended characters with the numPad keys.  He got someone to look at his screen and they report that the prepended characters do not appear visually.

 

We tried running nvda without add-ons and uninstalling and reinstalling nvda without success.

 

Has anyone else experienced this behavior and, if so, is there a way to stop it?

 

Thanks very much for any thoughts,

George

Re: Beware anniversary update for...

Jacob Kruger
 

On my machine, it only seemed to have taken off classicShell, but, I reinstalled it from latest version off their site, and working fine now.


Besides that, haven't had any real issues with it as of yet?


And, for example, while suppose this might have to do with running latest master snapshot of NVDa, or windows 10 anniversary itself, the command line console is back to where it used to be a while ago - reading out text to me instead of trying to spell out characters as they were being printed, and, that's quite a good thing for me in terms of when want to do various things, including playing around with python programming language, since have been having to use review cursors to re-read the screen contents, where now can just listen to it the first time round, and then review it if I want to.


Stay well


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2016-08-07 7:22 PM, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
It will delete any Email client like the recently hacked version of Outlook express without even asking, including it seems, all the email in it, or at least orphaning it off. also deleted my copy of Classic Shell as well.
Said it was not compatible but I understand a new version is on their web site.
It also seems to hve some issues with some of my existing programs which tend to lock up as far as it is concerned.

It also put Edge in as the running browser and left me to log into their outlook web mail app, which I cannot stand.
However gradually getting it sorted out and I guess one can go back to the earlier build if one wants to, but its not clear how this is achieved at the moment. I only have 10 on a test machine right now but I'd be very annoyed about its behaviour toward old or supposedly non working software if it was a machine, say with all my emails on it.
Does anyone know if it does this with Live mail versions as well?

Brian

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Beware anniversary update for...

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

It will delete any Email client like the recently hacked version of Outlook express without even asking, including it seems, all the email in it, or at least orphaning it off. also deleted my copy of Classic Shell as well.
Said it was not compatible but I understand a new version is on their web site.
It also seems to hve some issues with some of my existing programs which tend to lock up as far as it is concerned.

It also put Edge in as the running browser and left me to log into their outlook web mail app, which I cannot stand.
However gradually getting it sorted out and I guess one can go back to the earlier build if one wants to, but its not clear how this is achieved at the moment. I only have 10 on a test machine right now but I'd be very annoyed about its behaviour toward old or supposedly non working software if it was a machine, say with all my emails on it.
Does anyone know if it does this with Live mail versions as well?

Brian

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Outlook 2016 issue

George <slr1bpz@...>
 

A friend of mine is running windows 10 64 bit professional.  He has not received the anniversary update.  He is running outlook 2016 via office 365.  He is running nvda 2016.2.1.  He has the latest wintenapps add-on.
 
When he arrows down through his list of messages, the following is prepended to each listing:
Associated Draft No Associated Drafts,
After which he hears what he expects to hear; the from and subject fields and the date received and so forth.
He can review the prepended characters with the numPad keys.  He got someone to look at his screen and they report that the prepended characters do not appear visually.
 
We tried running nvda without add-ons and uninstalling and reinstalling nvda without success.
 
Has anyone else experienced this behavior and, if so, is there a way to stop it?
 
Thanks very much for any thoughts,
George

Software Uninstallers

Carlos
 

Hello All!

Thank You! To everyone who suggested Bulk Crap Uninstaller as a replacement for REVO Uninstaller.

Bulk Crap Uninstaller works great with NVDA! So, all who are not happy with REVO can go ahead and say goodbye to REVO and use Bulk Crap Uninstaller!

Thank You! To all who responded to the REVO is Inaccessible thread and gave suggestions about better uninstaller software!



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Re: is it possible to safe configuration profiles?

Gene
 

There is an option in NVDA to make an installed version.  make a portable version, as was suggested, and once it is on the other machine, install NVDA using the portable version. 
 
Look in the tools menu.  You will see items for making a portable version and for installing. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: P. Otter
Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2016 6:05 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] is it possible to safe configuration profiles?

hello brian,

i want to find the profile files i've made, and i want to copy them or
import them in nvda on other 2 computers they allready run nvda install
version.

but when i look at program files\nvda\systemconfig\profiles, the map is
empty.

and now my question is, where can i find my self made profiles?

i don't find any of them.

i know, i can create a portable version but that is a portable version
and not a install version.

in a portable version it is not possible to use the startup options.

and that's the reason to know where i can find the profiles.

cheers

paul otter



Op 7-8-2016 om 10:39 schreef Brian's Mail list account:
> What happens if you use the make an installed copy from the portable
> copy, doe the profiles then get transferred to the new installed version?
> Brian
>
> bglists@...
> Sent via blueyonder.
> Please address personal email to:-
> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
> in the display name field.
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "P. Otter" <pam.otter@...>
> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2016 4:08 PM
> Subject: Re: [nvda] is it possible to safe configuration profiles?
>
>
>> ok, but it is'nt possible to safe the profiles to import them on my
>> other machines?
>>
>> i don't want to use a portable version on the other computers because
>> there are less options on a portable version.
>>
>> i've allready nvda installed on the other machines.
>>
>> i only want to safe the profiles.
>>
>> cheers and thanks.
>>
>> paul otter
>>
>>
>>
>> Op 6-8-2016 om 16:50 schreef Salva Doménech Miguel via Groups.io:
>>> hi.
>>> yep, you can save a NVDA Portable Version and install the portable
>>> version in the other computer and use the profiles.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Salva
>>>
>>>> El 6 ago 2016, a las 16:02, P. Otter <pam.otter@...> escribió:
>>>>
>>>> hello all,
>>>>
>>>> is it possible to safe the made configuration profiles so that i
>>>> can use it on other computers?
>>>>
>>>> i've 3 computers working. on all of them nvda is running.
>>>>
>>>> on one i've made some profiles, i want to use them on the other
>>>> computers.
>>>>
>>>> but when i look at program files\nvda\configuration\profiles, this
>>>> map is empty.
>>>>
>>>> what can i do to find and safe it on a stick to implement it on the
>>>> other machines?
>>>>
>>>> thanks in advance!
>>>>
>>>> cheers
>>>>
>>>> paul otter
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>



Re: is it possible to safe configuration profiles?

Chris Mullins
 

The folder you refer to is the NVDA installation folder. You need to be looking in the equivalent folders of your own user folder. You should look in the appdata/roaming folder.

Cheers
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of P. Otter
Sent: 7 August 2016 12:06
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] is it possible to safe configuration profiles?

hello brian,

i want to find the profile files i've made, and i want to copy them or import them in nvda on other 2 computers they allready run nvda install version.

but when i look at program files\nvda\systemconfig\profiles, the map is empty.

and now my question is, where can i find my self made profiles?

i don't find any of them.

i know, i can create a portable version but that is a portable version and not a install version.

in a portable version it is not possible to use the startup options.

and that's the reason to know where i can find the profiles.

cheers

paul otter



Op 7-8-2016 om 10:39 schreef Brian's Mail list account:
What happens if you use the make an installed copy from the portable
copy, doe the profiles then get transferred to the new installed version?
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "P. Otter" <pam.otter@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2016 4:08 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] is it possible to safe configuration profiles?


ok, but it is'nt possible to safe the profiles to import them on my
other machines?

i don't want to use a portable version on the other computers because
there are less options on a portable version.

i've allready nvda installed on the other machines.

i only want to safe the profiles.

cheers and thanks.

paul otter



Op 6-8-2016 om 16:50 schreef Salva Doménech Miguel via Groups.io:
hi.
yep, you can save a NVDA Portable Version and install the portable
version in the other computer and use the profiles.

Cheers
Salva

El 6 ago 2016, a las 16:02, P. Otter <pam.otter@...> escribió:

hello all,

is it possible to safe the made configuration profiles so that i
can use it on other computers?

i've 3 computers working. on all of them nvda is running.

on one i've made some profiles, i want to use them on the other
computers.

but when i look at program files\nvda\configuration\profiles, this
map is empty.

what can i do to find and safe it on a stick to implement it on the
other machines?

thanks in advance!

cheers

paul otter










Re: Laptop acting weird?

Chris Mullins
 

Hi
It's not something I've ever used although a friend of mine had Vista and that would read out all the details on each line which I must confess was very annoying. You can right arrow across the line to read the information displayed however the size column doesn't appear to be populated, unless there is a setting somewhere to make this happen. If you need size info press alt+enter.

Cheers
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Arianna Sepulveda
Sent: 7 August 2016 06:36
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Laptop acting weird?

Chris, thanks for this very useful message. One question for you. I used to have NVDA read the little info thing that popped up after selecting any file or folder that would tell you things like size, date modified, date created, etc. It used to do this without having to do anything special. I'd just down arrow to something, and bam! I have the thing for tooltips and descriptions to pop up in the view settings of File Explorer, as well as NVDA's report tooltips setting turned on, and I'm still not getting the behavior anymore, which I find annoying.
I'd like that info to be automatically spoken again, just like it used to be. Do you have any ideas as to why this changed, and how I can get it back?


Thanks,
Ari

On 8/6/16, Chris Mullins <cjmullins29@...> wrote:
Hi
File Explorer is the W10 equivalent of Windows Explorer and similarly
requires configuring to how you prefer to see information displayed.

As in Windows Explorer, you can view information on your computer in
the same way for all folders of the same type. To do this, do the following:

1. Press Windows+r, type C: in the edit box and press enter.
2. Press alt+v, then press l.
3.arrow to your preferred format for folder/file display and press
enter (Details is probably the best for a blind user).

4. Press alt+f, then press o. You are now in a multi-tab dialog on the
General tab. These settings are personal choice but I'll tell you
what I use and why then you can set them to suit yourself. Use the
tab key to move through the controls, arrow keys to select your choices.

The first control sets where File Explorer will open when not started
for a specific location. The choices are QuickStart and ThisPC. I
set mine to ThisPC as I tend not to use quickstart as I usually set up
shortcut keys for things I use regularly so do not need the clutter of quick start items.


The next control is a pair of radio buttons which specify if each
folder you open is in the same or a new window. I set this to be the
same window as you end up with open windows all over the place if you
elect to open each in a separate window and it can get very confusing.

The next control is another pair of radio buttons. Set this to Double
click to open, single click to select. I know this is mouse related
but in keyboard terms, it equates to enter to open, focus acquisition
to select (either by arrow key or spacebar).

The next 2 controls related to quick start information, which as I
don't use, I leave unchecked.

Now tab down to the Apply button and press enter, then press tab again
to loop back to the top of the dialog box.

Press Control+tab to move to the next tab in the dialog box, the View tab.

The first control here is a button, which if you press enter on it,
will apply the display format you chose in step 3 above to all folders
of this type on your computer. You should press enter to do this.

Now tab down to the Advanced settings. This is a treeview containing
the settings applied to the display of information in File Explorer.
It is quite extensive so I will just list the parameters I have
checked or set to an On state. Note some parameters may be set to On
by default but I may have switched them off.

Always show menus
Display the full path in the title bar Show hidden files and folders
Hide folder merge conflicts Hide protected operating system files Show
Drive Letters Show Status bar Use sharing wizard Select the typed item
in the view Expand to open folder Show all folders

Now tab to OK and press enter. Close the File Explorer window and try
opening your Download folder again and see if you can read it now.


Cheers
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Matt Turner
Sent: 6 August 2016 18:54
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Laptop acting weird?

Hi folks, having a strange problem.

When i try to access files in the downloads folder, or for any other
folder, i can't see them.

Going into the downloads folder, i hear something about file explorer.

All i can see is the search box, and the Details, and large icons thing.

I no there's stuff in the folders, but i can't see them for some reason.

This just happens.







Re: is it possible to safe configuration profiles?

 

Hello,

Go to the "Start" menu. From the list of installed programs (the "All Programs" subgroup), go to the "NVDA" folder and expand it. In it find and activate the command "Explore NVDA user configuration directory". A folder will open. In it, find and open the folder named "profiles". In that folder are all of your NVDA configuration profiles. You can copy them and place them in the same folder (following the steps above) on another machine witch has NVDA installed. If the copy of NVDA to witch you want to copy the configuration profiles is a portable and not an installed one, the "Profiles" folder is located in the "userConfig" folder in the folder where is the main executable file of NVDA (nvda.exe).

______
Best wishes,
Kostadin Kolev


На 7.8.2016 г. в 14:05, P. Otter написа:

hello brian,

i want to find the profile files i've made, and i want to copy them or import them in nvda on other 2 computers they allready run nvda install version.

but when i look at program files\nvda\systemconfig\profiles, the map is empty.

and now my question is, where can i find my self made profiles?

i don't find any of them.

i know, i can create a portable version but that is a portable version and not a install version.

in a portable version it is not possible to use the startup options.

and that's the reason to know where i can find the profiles.

cheers

paul otter



Op 7-8-2016 om 10:39 schreef Brian's Mail list account:
What happens if you use the make an installed copy from the portable copy, doe the profiles then get transferred to the new installed version?
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "P. Otter" <pam.otter@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2016 4:08 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] is it possible to safe configuration profiles?


ok, but it is'nt possible to safe the profiles to import them on my other machines?

i don't want to use a portable version on the other computers because there are less options on a portable version.

i've allready nvda installed on the other machines.

i only want to safe the profiles.

cheers and thanks.

paul otter



Op 6-8-2016 om 16:50 schreef Salva Doménech Miguel via Groups.io:
hi.
yep, you can save a NVDA Portable Version and install the portable version in the other computer and use the profiles.

Cheers
Salva

El 6 ago 2016, a las 16:02, P. Otter <pam.otter@...> escribió:

hello all,

is it possible to safe the made configuration profiles so that i can use it on other computers?

i've 3 computers working. on all of them nvda is running.

on one i've made some profiles, i want to use them on the other computers.

but when i look at program files\nvda\configuration\profiles, this map is empty.

what can i do to find and safe it on a stick to implement it on the other machines?

thanks in advance!

cheers

paul otter






















Re: is it possible to safe configuration profiles?

P. Otter
 

hello brian,

i want to find the profile files i've made, and i want to copy them or import them in nvda on other 2 computers they allready run nvda install version.

but when i look at program files\nvda\systemconfig\profiles, the map is empty.

and now my question is, where can i find my self made profiles?

i don't find any of them.

i know, i can create a portable version but that is a portable version and not a install version.

in a portable version it is not possible to use the startup options.

and that's the reason to know where i can find the profiles.

cheers

paul otter



Op 7-8-2016 om 10:39 schreef Brian's Mail list account:

What happens if you use the make an installed copy from the portable copy, doe the profiles then get transferred to the new installed version?
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "P. Otter" <pam.otter@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2016 4:08 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] is it possible to safe configuration profiles?


ok, but it is'nt possible to safe the profiles to import them on my other machines?

i don't want to use a portable version on the other computers because there are less options on a portable version.

i've allready nvda installed on the other machines.

i only want to safe the profiles.

cheers and thanks.

paul otter



Op 6-8-2016 om 16:50 schreef Salva Doménech Miguel via Groups.io:
hi.
yep, you can save a NVDA Portable Version and install the portable version in the other computer and use the profiles.

Cheers
Salva

El 6 ago 2016, a las 16:02, P. Otter <pam.otter@...> escribió:

hello all,

is it possible to safe the made configuration profiles so that i can use it on other computers?

i've 3 computers working. on all of them nvda is running.

on one i've made some profiles, i want to use them on the other computers.

but when i look at program files\nvda\configuration\profiles, this map is empty.

what can i do to find and safe it on a stick to implement it on the other machines?

thanks in advance!

cheers

paul otter









windows10 and the bash ubuntu beta

Simone Dal Maso
 

Hello,

Yesterday I tried the new ubuntu on windows10. The great thing is that all the console is accessible and NVDA reads all without problem.

If you edit a document with nano, it works perfectly.

But if you issue an ssh connection, there is the old problem in which NVDA reads the previous character when you move with Arrow Keys.

This problem is not present on cygwin.

Do you think I can open a ticket about this?

Or some addons… where NVDA wait effectively the that the focus go on the next position?

 

 

Inviato da Posta per Windows 10

 

request from google for braille input support on android and multi touch function

Engin Albayrak <mealbayrak@...>
 

request from google for braille input support on android and multi touch function

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Re: Laptop acting weird?

Brian's Mail list account BY <bglists@...>
 

Yes this seems to be totally random in 10 whether it works or not. My guess is that windows is using subtly different code to do this now and sometimes it gets missed. When it does work for me I also hear some detaails repeated twice.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Arianna Sepulveda" <englishrider91@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2016 6:35 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Laptop acting weird?


Chris, thanks for this very useful message. One question for you. I
used to have NVDA read the little info thing that popped up after
selecting any file or folder that would tell you things like size,
date modified, date created, etc. It used to do this without having to
do anything special. I'd just down arrow to something, and bam! I have
the thing for tooltips and descriptions to pop up in the view settings
of File Explorer, as well as NVDA's report tooltips setting turned on,
and I'm still not getting the behavior anymore, which I find annoying.
I'd like that info to be automatically spoken again, just like it used
to be. Do you have any ideas as to why this changed, and how I can get
it back?


Thanks,
Ari

On 8/6/16, Chris Mullins <cjmullins29@...> wrote:
Hi
File Explorer is the W10 equivalent of Windows Explorer and similarly
requires configuring to how you prefer to see information displayed.

As in Windows Explorer, you can view information on your computer in the
same way for all folders of the same type. To do this, do the following:

1. Press Windows+r, type C: in the edit box and press enter.
2. Press alt+v, then press l.
3.arrow to your preferred format for folder/file display and press enter
(Details is probably the best for a blind user).

4. Press alt+f, then press o. You are now in a multi-tab dialog on the
General tab. These settings are personal choice but I'll tell you what I
use and why then you can set them to suit yourself. Use the tab key to move
through the controls, arrow keys to select your choices.

The first control sets where File Explorer will open when not started for a
specific location. The choices are QuickStart and ThisPC. I set mine to
ThisPC as I tend not to use quickstart as I usually set up shortcut keys for
things I use regularly so do not need the clutter of quick start items.


The next control is a pair of radio buttons which specify if each folder you
open is in the same or a new window. I set this to be the same window as
you end up with open windows all over the place if you elect to open each in
a separate window and it can get very confusing.

The next control is another pair of radio buttons. Set this to Double click
to open, single click to select. I know this is mouse related but in
keyboard terms, it equates to enter to open, focus acquisition to select
(either by arrow key or spacebar).

The next 2 controls related to quick start information, which as I don't
use, I leave unchecked.

Now tab down to the Apply button and press enter, then press tab again to
loop back to the top of the dialog box.

Press Control+tab to move to the next tab in the dialog box, the View tab.

The first control here is a button, which if you press enter on it, will
apply the display format you chose in step 3 above to all folders of this
type on your computer. You should press enter to do this.

Now tab down to the Advanced settings. This is a treeview containing the
settings applied to the display of information in File Explorer. It is
quite extensive so I will just list the parameters I have checked or set to
an On state. Note some parameters may be set to On by default but I may
have switched them off.

Always show menus
Display the full path in the title bar
Show hidden files and folders
Hide folder merge conflicts
Hide protected operating system files
Show Drive Letters
Show Status bar
Use sharing wizard
Select the typed item in the view
Expand to open folder
Show all folders

Now tab to OK and press enter. Close the File Explorer window and try
opening your Download folder again and see if you can read it now.


Cheers
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Matt
Turner
Sent: 6 August 2016 18:54
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Laptop acting weird?

Hi folks, having a strange problem.

When i try to access files in the downloads folder, or for any other folder,
i can't see them.

Going into the downloads folder, i hear something about file explorer.

All i can see is the search box, and the Details, and large icons thing.

I no there's stuff in the folders, but i can't see them for some reason.

This just happens.







Re: Laptop acting weird?

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In a way its much like the long standing issue with nvda and outlook express where at some time of the systems own choosing most message bodies willnot be read and oe complains about things when you attempt to start a new message saying the original has not downloaded. This I understand is an outlook express issue with some screenreaders, it could well be something similar here.
always a reboot of either the software or both software and nevda fixes it till the next time it happens. Mightbe days or the next time you open the application or paart of windows.
Brian

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Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2016 8:05 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Laptop acting weird?


I have come across this issue on windows 8.1, and not 10. By the way, file explorer works fine on win 10. The fix is not permanent, which means that it will not occur until it randomly decides to happen.

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On Aug 6, 2016, at 8:42 PM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

Are you saying it permanently fixed it or only for that one time? Did you upgrade to Windows 10 with NVDA installed and not reinstall it? I'm not talking about the upgrade. I'm talking about upgrading from some other version of Windows. It has been recommended that NVDA be reinstalled after upgrading. it solves problems. I haven't seen this problem discussed in that context but it still may apply.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Afrim
Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2016 1:03 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Laptop acting weird?

Hi,
When you open the folder you have to work with, restart NVDA. That fixed this issue on my desktop computer.

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On Aug 6, 2016, at 7:53 PM, Matt Turner <meturner2214@...> wrote:

Hi folks, having a strange problem.

When i try to access files in the downloads folder, or for any other folder, i can't see them.

Going into the downloads folder, i hear something about file explorer.

All i can see is the search box, and the Details, and large icons thing.

I no there's stuff in the folders, but i can't see them for some reason.

This just happens.





Re: Laptop acting weird?

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It is even better in windows 10 upgrade to save a portable version then reinstall it after the upgrade. quite what the difference is between a new and an old install is hard to grasp though.

I have seen loss of menus and loss of other things reading on nvda geenarally, but its never seen as a problem in logs and I suspect some hooking gets disrupted and a restart of nvda will sort it most of the time in that session.
People I know using Dolphin screenreaders have reported similar issues which does make me wonder if its a timeing thing in windows.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2016 7:42 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Laptop acting weird?


Are you saying it permanently fixed it or only for that one time? Did you upgrade to Windows 10 with NVDA installed and not reinstall it? I'm not talking about the upgrade. I'm talking about upgrading from some other version of Windows. It has been recommended that NVDA be reinstalled after upgrading. it solves problems. I haven't seen this problem discussed in that context but it still may apply.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Afrim
Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2016 1:03 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Laptop acting weird?


Hi,
When you open the folder you have to work with, restart NVDA. That fixed this issue on my desktop computer.

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 6, 2016, at 7:53 PM, Matt Turner <meturner2214@...> wrote:

Hi folks, having a strange problem.

When i try to access files in the downloads folder, or for any other folder, i can't see them.

Going into the downloads folder, i hear something about file explorer.

All i can see is the search box, and the Details, and large icons thing.

I no there's stuff in the folders, but i can't see them for some reason.

This just happens.



Re: Laptop acting weird?

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I assume if you tab around its not just in a wrong field is it?
I have seen this and making it list instead of large icons seemed to sort it out for me.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Afrim" <afrim.maja@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2016 7:03 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Laptop acting weird?


Hi,
When you open the folder you have to work with, restart NVDA. That fixed this issue on my desktop computer.

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 6, 2016, at 7:53 PM, Matt Turner <meturner2214@...> wrote:

Hi folks, having a strange problem.

When i try to access files in the downloads folder, or for any other folder, i can't see them.

Going into the downloads folder, i hear something about file explorer.

All i can see is the search box, and the Details, and large icons thing.

I no there's stuff in the folders, but i can't see them for some reason.

This just happens.



Re: is it possible to safe configuration profiles?

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What happens if you use the make an installed copy from the portable copy, doe the profiles then get transferred to the new installed version?
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "P. Otter" <pam.otter@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2016 4:08 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] is it possible to safe configuration profiles?


ok, but it is'nt possible to safe the profiles to import them on my other machines?

i don't want to use a portable version on the other computers because there are less options on a portable version.

i've allready nvda installed on the other machines.

i only want to safe the profiles.

cheers and thanks.

paul otter



Op 6-8-2016 om 16:50 schreef Salva Doménech Miguel via Groups.io:
hi.
yep, you can save a NVDA Portable Version and install the portable version in the other computer and use the profiles.

Cheers
Salva

El 6 ago 2016, a las 16:02, P. Otter <pam.otter@...> escribió:

hello all,

is it possible to safe the made configuration profiles so that i can use it on other computers?

i've 3 computers working. on all of them nvda is running.

on one i've made some profiles, i want to use them on the other computers.

but when i look at program files\nvda\configuration\profiles, this map is empty.

what can i do to find and safe it on a stick to implement it on the other machines?

thanks in advance!

cheers

paul otter






Re: new user with a question about cursors

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I've never had an issue with these settings making any difference for most programs. I think the screenreader is looking behind the visible cursor at the details of where it is.
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Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2016 2:48 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] new user with a question about cursors


Hi
could you check the settings of the system cursor. If you type 'cursor' into cortana you will see where you can set blink rate and thickness. It may have been altered to values which make it difficult for the screen reader to track. As a guide, my settings are a blink rate of 63 and a thickness of 10.

Cheers
Chris



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Michael Capelle
Sent: 6 August 2016 13:53
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] new user with a question about cursors

i am not seeing those options.
----- Original Message -----
From: "nasrin khaksar" <nasrinkhaksar3@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2016 7:40 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] new user with a question about cursors


hi.
go to nvda preferences object presentation, press enter on it and see
the first two options which are system focus and system caret.
they should be checked.
if they are uncheck, check them with space key.
God bless you!

On 8/5/16, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...> wrote:
Hi, Chris,


Did you try hitting insert down-arrow to read a document? I don't know
why NVDA isn't seeing the cursor.


Rosemarie




On 8/4/2016 7:42 PM, Chris Judd wrote:
Hi all,
I’ve been using NVDA for the past 2 days now, and I love it!
I was wondering, when ever I am reading something, and I press control
home to go to the top of the document how can I get the cursors to
match where I am going? I press my up and down arrows, but they are
in the same place where I left off.
I’m sorry if this isn’t making any sense, but I’m new to NVDA, so I’m
learning.
Thanks,
Chris

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