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Re: Anniversary windows 10 update

Brian's Mail list account BY <bglists@...>
 

I was told by somebody who is supposed to know that this will still occur for anyone who has their system set to use screenreader in the ease of use centre for at least an extra month, due to the need for the new Edge code to be put on those machines to make them work.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Shook" <chris0309@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 4:09 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Anniversary windows 10 update


Sharni:
I don't think you have to worry about it updating automatically anymore. The time for the free update ended on the twenty ninth of July. I don't think it will update automatically anymore.
Chris

Re: REVO Is Now Inaccessible!

Brian's Mail list account BY <bglists@...>
 

I find the old version still works in 10, but there is sometimes a focus issue after installing one program which makes it better to come out and go back in again each time to read the list. I have no idea quite why it behaves that way.
I am not sure about the other program mentioned in this thread. How much navigation has to be done useing the navigation modes. If its mainly trivial I'd try it, but I'd hate to have to mess with this all the time. Of course if Windows actually put in really efficient uninstallers none of this would be needed!
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Melissa" <@MJMarney>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 1:38 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] REVO Is Now Inaccessible!


I didn't update, but when I read this message I went to see if it still worked.
So far I can't get to the list of installed programs, though it tells
me how many there are. I even tried by using the admin account.
So, unless someone has a way to use it with windows 10 and NVDA 2016.1
lemme know
I'm hesitant about using another unistall utility after using revo
for, what seems like, forever.

Melissaplease.


On 8/4/16, Kevin Cussick via Groups.io
<the.big.white.shepherd=googlemail.com@groups.io> wrote:
correct spelling for the replacement app is Bulk Crap Uninstaller if you
google this you will find.

On 04/08/2016 17:14, Carlos wrote:
Hello All!

Today I was going to uninstall some software with REVO uninstaller.
When the program loaded it offered to upgrade to free version 2.0. I
accepted and it downloaded and installed it. Upon running the new
version of REVO it does not work with NVDA like the previous version did!

So, it seems that yet another piece of software has become
inaccessible to NVDA!

What other free software uninstallers are there left to will work
with NVDA?

I really do hope that someone here will figure out how to get this
new version of REVO to work and will post their findings here so that we
all can make good use of this new version of REVO with NVDA!




Re: [NVDA] aniversary update

Brian's Mail list account BY <bglists@...>
 

I'd also like to know if all those who have been declining update to 10 from earlier versions will be forced to have this last freeby. I have advised people to use never10 if they do not want to update, but I suspect many have just been telling 10 to go away, but as the free period is ending, there might be some nasty surprises in store for the folkwho don't understand windows very much.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Shook" <chris0309@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 6:33 PM
Subject: [NVDA] aniversary update


Hi,
I have two questions.
1. When will NVDA 2016.3 be released?
2. In his podcast, Joseph said that the aniversay updates will be rleeased in waves. Does anyone know what the time frame for that is?
I've been getting updates, but I have not gotten the aniversary update yet?
Thanks
Chris

Re: REVO Is Now Inaccessible!

Brian's Mail list account BY <bglists@...>
 

Yes there is a recent issue with ccleaner where the list of problems is not read by nvda unless you switch on the monitoring in the settings. Quite why these two apparently unconnected parts should affect one another is not clear, but I've observed this on several machines of late.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 5:26 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] REVO Is Now Inaccessible!


You can go back to the old version. See this page:
http://www.oldversion.com/windows/revo-uninstaller/

I don't know if you have to uninstall the new version first. Therefore, just to be safe, I think you should. Always keep and back up installers for everything you install in case you need them again and don't get rid of them unless you know you will never use them.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Carlos
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 11:14 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] REVO Is Now Inaccessible!


Hello All!

Today I was going to uninstall some software with REVO
uninstaller. When the program loaded it offered to upgrade to free
version 2.0. I accepted and it downloaded and installed it. Upon
running the new version of REVO it does not work with NVDA like the
previous version did!

So, it seems that yet another piece of software has become
inaccessible to NVDA!

What other free software uninstallers are there left to will work
with NVDA?

I really do hope that someone here will figure out how to get this
new version of REVO to work and will post their findings here so that we
all can make good use of this new version of REVO with NVDA!



--
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Re: REVO Is Now Inaccessible!

Brian's Mail list account BY <bglists@...>
 

Is this the free version, the paid for one has been an issue for some time now. Sadly the free version only uninstalled windows 32 bit programs.


The best thing to do of course is to report such things to the makers, but if it is the free version its hard to see how any force of the law can be used to make them do the right thing.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Carlos" <gmjc341961@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 5:14 PM
Subject: [nvda] REVO Is Now Inaccessible!


Hello All!

Today I was going to uninstall some software with REVO uninstaller. When the program loaded it offered to upgrade to free version 2.0. I accepted and it downloaded and installed it. Upon running the new version of REVO it does not work with NVDA like the previous version did!

So, it seems that yet another piece of software has become inaccessible to NVDA!

What other free software uninstallers are there left to will work with NVDA?

I really do hope that someone here will figure out how to get this new version of REVO to work and will post their findings here so that we all can make good use of this new version of REVO with NVDA!



--
Carlos Gonzalez - Los Angeles, CA. - gmjc341961@...


Re: REVO Is Now Inaccessible!

Ishe Chinyoka <chinyoka.consultant@...>
 

Thanks for suggesting Bulk Crap Uninstaller: this for me works better than Revo Uninstaller. It is fully accessible from its panel, startup manager and all menu items. Plus it has a bulk uninstall mode that makes life simple.

Here is the link to its homepage: http://klocmansoftware.weebly.com/

Thanks once again,

On 5 August 2016 at 02:38, Melissa <melissa.j.hammitt@...> wrote:
I didn't update, but when I read this message I went to see if it still worked.
So far I can't get to the list of installed programs, though it tells
me how many there are. I even tried by using the admin account.
So, unless someone has a way to use it with windows 10 and NVDA 2016.1
lemme know
I'm hesitant about using another unistall utility after using revo
for, what seems like, forever.

Melissaplease.


On 8/4/16, Kevin Cussick via Groups.io
<the.big.white.shepherd=googlemail.com@groups.io> wrote:
> correct spelling for the replacement app is Bulk Crap Uninstaller if you
> google this you will find.
>
> On 04/08/2016 17:14, Carlos wrote:
>> Hello All!
>>
>>     Today I was going to uninstall some software with REVO uninstaller.
>> When the program loaded it offered to upgrade to free version 2.0.  I
>> accepted and it downloaded and installed it. Upon running the new
>> version of REVO it does not work with NVDA like the previous version did!
>>
>>     So, it seems that yet another piece of software has become
>> inaccessible to NVDA!
>>
>>     What other free software uninstallers are there left to will work
>> with NVDA?
>>
>>     I really do hope that someone here will figure out how to get this
>> new version of REVO to work and will post their findings here so that we
>> all can make good use of this new version of REVO with NVDA!
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>




Re: Anniversary windows 10 update

The Gamages
 

Hello,
Microsoft were fined ten thousand dollars for an unwanted upgrade to a travel agent’s system  in late June, for anyone interested type “microsoft law suit” in your browser’s search box.
Maybe it will stop Microsoft from doing any unwanted upgrades in future?
 
Best Regards, Jim.
 

Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 2:21 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Anniversary windows 10 update
 

Wait, I haven't read many emails about this so I'm more than a bit concerned. Is this update going to be forced on us like the initial one? Can never10 or the WGX Control Panel block it? I don't want Windows 10 until I have no other choice, and if I update my system and suddenly it's being downloaded again...


On 5/08/2016 10:51 AM, marvin kotler wrote:
Good evening list; Marv here.  From what I read on the Microsoft website, the anniversary update could be awhile getting to you due to your location and other factors.  The update is 3 gb. in size, so it will take a while to install.  Also, can 64 bit vista be upgraded to any other operating system? I have an older laptop and was just wondering about this.  Any help would be appreciated.
-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Shook
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 10:33 AM
Subject: [NVDA] anniversary update
 
Hi,
I have two questions.
1. When will NVDA 2016.3 be released?
2. In his podcast, Joseph said that the anniversary updates will be
released in waves. Does anyone know what the time frame for that is?

Re: Anniversary windows 10 update

Heaven Botma <heaven@...>
 

Hi Marv

 

If it is an older laptop, it would be advisable to upgrade to 7, because 10 may be too system intensive

 

Regards

 

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of marvin kotler
Sent: Friday, 05 August 2016 2:51 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Anniversary windows 10 update

 

Good evening list; Marv here.  From what I read on the Microsoft website, the anniversary update could be awhile getting to you due to your location and other factors.  The update is 3 gb. in size, so it will take a while to install.  Also, can 64 bit vista be upgraded to any other operating system? I have an older laptop and was just wondering about this.  Any help would be appreciated.

-----Original Message-----

From: Chris Shook

Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 10:33 AM

Subject: [NVDA] anniversary update

 

Hi,

I have two questions.

1. When will NVDA 2016.3 be released?

2. In his podcast, Joseph said that the anniversary updates will be

released in waves. Does anyone know what the time frame for that is?

Re: new user with a question about cursors

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, Chris,


Did you try hitting insert down-arrow to read a document? I don't know why NVDA isn't seeing the cursor.


Rosemarie




On 8/4/2016 7:42 PM, Chris Judd wrote:
Hi all,
I’ve been using NVDA for the past 2 days now, and I love it!
I was wondering, when ever I am reading something, and I press control home to go to the top of the document how can I get the cursors to match where I am going?  I press my up and down arrows, but they are in the same place where I left off.
I’m sorry if this isn’t making any sense, but I’m new to NVDA, so I’m learning.
Thanks,
Chris

Re: new user with a question about cursors

Gene
 

Does this happen in general or in a specific program?  Control home is supposed to move the cursor.  It's a Windows command that moves the application cursor.  NVDA should track the cursor.  If it isn't and it isn't doing so in general, I don't know why. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Chris Judd
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 9:42 PM
Subject: [nvda] new user with a question about cursors

Hi all,
I’ve been using NVDA for the past 2 days now, and I love it!
I was wondering, when ever I am reading something, and I press control home to go to the top of the document how can I get the cursors to match where I am going?  I press my up and down arrows, but they are in the same place where I left off.
I’m sorry if this isn’t making any sense, but I’m new to NVDA, so I’m learning.
Thanks,
Chris

Re: Anniversary windows 10 update

Chris Shook <chris0309@...>
 

Sharni:
I don't think you have to worry about it updating automatically anymore. The time for the free update ended on the twenty ninth of July. I don't think it will update automatically anymore.
Chris

new user with a question about cursors

Chris Judd
 

Hi all,
I’ve been using NVDA for the past 2 days now, and I love it!
I was wondering, when ever I am reading something, and I press control home to go to the top of the document how can I get the cursors to match where I am going?  I press my up and down arrows, but they are in the same place where I left off.
I’m sorry if this isn’t making any sense, but I’m new to NVDA, so I’m learning.
Thanks,
Chris

Re: Anniversary windows 10 update

Sharni-Lee Ward
 

Wait, I haven't read many emails about this so I'm more than a bit concerned. Is this update going to be forced on us like the initial one? Can never10 or the WGX Control Panel block it? I don't want Windows 10 until I have no other choice, and if I update my system and suddenly it's being downloaded again...


On 5/08/2016 10:51 AM, marvin kotler wrote:
Good evening list; Marv here.  From what I read on the Microsoft website, the anniversary update could be awhile getting to you due to your location and other factors.  The update is 3 gb. in size, so it will take a while to install.  Also, can 64 bit vista be upgraded to any other operating system? I have an older laptop and was just wondering about this.  Any help would be appreciated.
-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Shook
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 10:33 AM
Subject: [NVDA] anniversary update
 
Hi,
I have two questions.
1. When will NVDA 2016.3 be released?
2. In his podcast, Joseph said that the anniversary updates will be
released in waves. Does anyone know what the time frame for that is?

Re: Anniversary windows 10 update

Chris Shook <chris0309@...>
 

Marvin,
From what I understand, the computer has to be at least windows 7.
Could you please post the link that talks about the aniversary update to the list?
Thanks
Chris

Anniversary windows 10 update

marvin kotler
 

Good evening list; Marv here.  From what I read on the Microsoft website, the anniversary update could be awhile getting to you due to your location and other factors.  The update is 3 gb. in size, so it will take a while to install.  Also, can 64 bit vista be upgraded to any other operating system? I have an older laptop and was just wondering about this.  Any help would be appreciated.

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Shook
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 10:33 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [NVDA] anniversary update
 
Hi,
I have two questions.
1. When will NVDA 2016.3 be released?
2. In his podcast, Joseph said that the anniversary updates will be
released in waves. Does anyone know what the time frame for that is?

Re: REVO Is Now Inaccessible!

 

I didn't update, but when I read this message I went to see if it still worked.
So far I can't get to the list of installed programs, though it tells
me how many there are. I even tried by using the admin account.
So, unless someone has a way to use it with windows 10 and NVDA 2016.1
lemme know
I'm hesitant about using another unistall utility after using revo
for, what seems like, forever.

Melissaplease.


On 8/4/16, Kevin Cussick via Groups.io
<the.big.white.shepherd=googlemail.com@groups.io> wrote:
correct spelling for the replacement app is Bulk Crap Uninstaller if you
google this you will find.

On 04/08/2016 17:14, Carlos wrote:
Hello All!

Today I was going to uninstall some software with REVO uninstaller.
When the program loaded it offered to upgrade to free version 2.0. I
accepted and it downloaded and installed it. Upon running the new
version of REVO it does not work with NVDA like the previous version did!

So, it seems that yet another piece of software has become
inaccessible to NVDA!

What other free software uninstallers are there left to will work
with NVDA?

I really do hope that someone here will figure out how to get this
new version of REVO to work and will post their findings here so that we
all can make good use of this new version of REVO with NVDA!




Re: EDITING HEADERS IN OFFICE 2010

Kenny Dog <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi Christo


In the next day or so maybe earlier hopefully I will  upload   it to my website what is done so far.  There is about 3 pages left to edit   then upload it in a html format to my website at http://www.accessibilitycentral.netThe page the tutorial will be linked to will be the nvda tutorials for other programs page.


I was not sure how much to put into it it is more to get some one up and running like i did with power point 2010.


I can let you know when it goes up and what it is called. There is about 10 pages or is it more plus shortcuts for power word 1010 and 2013 which will be linked to a dropbox account.


Gene nz



On 4/08/2016 7:11 PM, Christo Vorster wrote:

Hi Geen

 

Thanks for the suggestion. I’ll test it. As far as your tutorial on Word goes, I’d appreciate it if you can send me a copy. You can mail it to my personal mailing address, Christo.vorster@...

 

Thanks again

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene New Zealand
Sent: Tuesday, 02 August 2016 11:29 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] EDITING HEADERS IN OFFICE 2010

 

Hi Christo

 

I have the same version of microsoft word. I also tried the same sequence for word 2010, but not the earlier version.

I can confirm what you said for the 2010 version. some times it works and other times it does not. It seems to be on how quick or slow I do it wheather it wants to do it or not.

 

the word around that seem to work is a couple of extra steps.

 

Press the ALT key + letter N, then H. This will land you on a bland header. Shift tab a couple of times until you get to the part where it says edit the header then press the enter key make your changes then press enter key then the escape key. Doing it this way I can edit the header and change it if I want to .

 

I am learning my self how to do it so have been putting together a basic tutorial on using the basics of word and putting in a header and footer and editing them is part of it.

 

Hopefully the above helps.

 

I did not try it with a master snapshot it might of been fixed in that?:?

 

Gene nz

 

 

 

On 2/08/2016 5:22 PM, Christo Vorster wrote:

Hi Group

 

We are using Office 2010 with NVDA 2016.2.1 for training at our college.

 

We have a problem with editing a header in MS Word. If you press the Office 2010 sequence, ALT, N, H, E, NVDA falls silent. It refuses to speak even after you pressed escape. If you make use of the 2003 sequence, ALT+V, H, there is no problem.

 

Could someone please assist us?

 

Thank you and regards

 

Christo Vorster (Worcester, South Africa)

 

 



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Re: REVO Is Now Inaccessible!

Kevin Cussick
 

correct spelling for the replacement app is Bulk Crap Uninstaller if you google this you will find.

On 04/08/2016 17:14, Carlos wrote:
Hello All!

Today I was going to uninstall some software with REVO uninstaller.
When the program loaded it offered to upgrade to free version 2.0. I
accepted and it downloaded and installed it. Upon running the new
version of REVO it does not work with NVDA like the previous version did!

So, it seems that yet another piece of software has become
inaccessible to NVDA!

What other free software uninstallers are there left to will work
with NVDA?

I really do hope that someone here will figure out how to get this
new version of REVO to work and will post their findings here so that we
all can make good use of this new version of REVO with NVDA!


Re: REVO Is Now Inaccessible!

Kevin Cussick
 

Hi, bulc crap uninstaller is accessible with a little object nav but works better than revo, it will see 64bit programs and it works well using Nvda.

On 04/08/2016 17:14, Carlos wrote:
Hello All!

Today I was going to uninstall some software with REVO uninstaller.
When the program loaded it offered to upgrade to free version 2.0. I
accepted and it downloaded and installed it. Upon running the new
version of REVO it does not work with NVDA like the previous version did!

So, it seems that yet another piece of software has become
inaccessible to NVDA!

What other free software uninstallers are there left to will work
with NVDA?

I really do hope that someone here will figure out how to get this
new version of REVO to work and will post their findings here so that we
all can make good use of this new version of REVO with NVDA!


Re: Installing Cygwin

Rob
 

John J. Boyer <john.boyer@...> wrote:
Please give clearer instructions. I don't see a screen with radio
buttons. There is just a dialog to tab through.
Ok, here you go.
1. Fire up the setup.exe file.
2. After the introductory screen, you have a series of radio buttons. Install from internet. Download without installing. And install from local directory. You, being a first time user, will probably want Install from Internet.
3. Next you pick your install directory; c:\cygwin or c:\cygwin64 by default.
4. Next you Pick your local pcakcage directory. This is where the packages are downloaded to; and you can install from it at a later time without redownloading.
5. Next you set your connection type. Pick the one that is applicable for your situation.
5. Next you will have to pick a mirror site. There's a lot of them; pick one from the list and then press enter.
6. Now here's the dialog Tyler was talking about. Here you have a series of radio buttons. Curr, exp, and keep. You want Curr.
7. Now you need to use your object navigation. Hit NVDA+numpad 6 until you hear NVDA say "list."
8. Now, use numpad 9 to read through the list that contains the package categories. To see what packages are in a given category, use NVDA+numpad slash to root your mouse pointer to it, and click the first letter of the category name. Then use numpad 9 again to read through the packages in that category. Click on the skip item to cycle a package from being not installed (skip) to install. When a package is set to install, the size in Kb will be announced instead of the word skip. Click the first letter of the category, once more, to hide the list of packages.
10. To install a given category, use your NVDA+numpad slash to root your pointer to the word default. Click that until you hear install.
11. Go through all the packages and categories you wish to install and then hit next. You will get a dialog asking about dependencies; let setup handle them all and you should be fine.
The rest should be self explanatory. Go and have a cup of coffee; this process takes a while. You can then launch cygwin terminal from your desktop after it's installed. You'll get a message about copying skeleton files, and then you're all set up.