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Re: OCR software?
Rosemarie Chavarria
I don't have a file to test.
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of nasrin khaksar Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2017 4:46 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] OCR software? hi rosemarie. i wish that open my pdf files with firefox and convert them into txt. could you please test it and give me the result? after openning file, press control+s and select text document for type of file for saving. On 1/15/17, slery <slerythema@gmail.com> wrote: Really? Please tell me where the OCR function is and how to access it -- we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation. holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107. in the very authentic narration is: imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation. best website for studying islamic book in different languages al-islam.org
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Re: accessible word processors with NVDA
Rosemarie Chavarria
I haven't worked enough with libre office to know about that.
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2017 6:17 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible word processors with NVDA And for Spanish use? How's Libre Office with NVDA? Gera Enviado desde mi iPhone 5S El 14/01/2017, a las 11:52 p.m., Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@gmail.com> escribió:
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Re: OCR software?
Cindy, There also appears to have been a firmware update for your machine last September, downloadable here. Although that should have nothing at all to do with accessibility of the scanning software it's generally a good idea to keep the firmware for any device up to date. -- He discloses the workings of a mind to which incoherence lends an illusion of profundity. ~ T. De Vere White
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Re: OCR software?
On Sat, Jan 14, 2017 at 10:57 pm, slery wrote:
Really? Please tell me where the OCR function is and how to access it in my HP Officejet 7500 E910. See the User Guide for your machine, PDF page 48, that documents doing this using the HP Software that comes with the printer under the section entitled, Scanning documents as editable text. I cannot speak to why it would not be accessible, as I've never used this particular model, but I have used HP multi-function machines with the full-featured software suite and driver (the one for your machine is downloadable here) with screen readers without difficulty. There have been times, not limited in any way to HP software, where a given piece of software would not "play well" with a given screen reader and another screen reader would work perfectly with it. It's always worth checking. He discloses the workings of a mind to which incoherence lends an illusion of profundity. ~ T. De Vere White
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Re: Returning from Sleep or Hybernation
#addonrelease
#adminnotice
#cal-invite
#cal-reminder
On Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 02:32 am, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
There is far too great a risk of it doing something silly otherwise. Actually, there really isn't if you're mindful about what's set up and you follow the advice I've given. Been there, done that with more clients than I care to count. There is an irrational fear of the mouse on the whole, and you make one of NVDA's more powerful features, mouse tracking, useless when you make it impossible to use the mouse or mousepad. But to each his or her own. -- He discloses the workings of a mind to which incoherence lends an illusion of profundity. ~ T. De Vere White
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Re: Windows 10 App Essentials 17.01 released
Hi, Yes, you have Anniversary Update, so go ahead and use 17.01. Cheers, Joseph
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rémy Ruiz
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2017 4:42 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 App Essentials 17.01 released
Hi Joseph! Le 14/01/2017 20:53, Joseph Lee a écrit :
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Re: possible obj pad bug not sure
Hi,
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Looks like control key gets stuck somehow and Windows thinks that key is held down. Cheers, Joseph
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2017 12:44 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] possible obj pad bug not sure Hi. Well I have been playing eurofly for some time. if I kill nvda nice errrors come up, but as long as I don't kill it thats fine. The reall issue happened a few days ago but got worst today. I have obj pad, ventrilo which I use ffor testing but I have the beta addon well had because I now killed it and obj ppad. I had a few extra security addons on firefox and such but even so that was not the big issue at alll. I have easy table navigator installed to. I had firefox, a downloads folder open, and an audio track playing with winamp. I had just finished something with firefox 50.1 and closed it. Sometimes it crashes but mostly its fine at any rate I had finished with it. Nvda decided to be stuck in a table, this has happened before when quitting ventrilo but I have alt tab and its fine. This time it decided to lock, a thing it has done in the past. Half of the keys stopped working. The first time I exited and it came back. This time though, if I hit caps key and tab I was switching from scan to web to normal. So I assume something was making objpad or nvda in general think it was in a strange mode. No keys worked and I had to power off the computer and luckily it shut down. When I mean no keys, nothing read right at all. On a full reboot nvda now works but I have removed easy table nav, ventrilo, golden curser and objpad and hopefully things just work as they are supposed to. It only works with that combination of things open. It never happens if its one at a time though this game does use a lot of power. I have used it before with winamp and firefox open, never large radio broadcast archives I usually pause the game for those.
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More on Firefox xp and older processors support
Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
Here is what you are pointed at if you do an update check when running on an Athlon or Sempron which has no sse2 support in its instruction set.
Your hardware is no longer supported If your computer has a processor older than Pentium 4, Firefox version 49 and above is no longer supported. If Firefox is already installed on your computer, you can continue using it but you will not receive updates beyond version 48. If you download Firefox version 49 or above and try to install it, you will see the message, Firefox cannot be installed. This version of Firefox requires a processor with SSE2 support. Like many programs, newer versions of Firefox require a processor that supports Streaming SIMD Extensions 2 (SSE2) for better security and performance. We recommend a computer with a Pentium 4 or newer processor that supports SSE2 to use the latest version of Firefox, which has more features, stability and security. Firefox Extended Support Release (ESR) will continue to work with older processors but will not receive updates beyond ESR version 45. Firefox ESR version 52, scheduled for release in March 2017, will no longer be supported. Clear as mud in many ways, but from the AMD standpoint its clear enough. One supposes the second part of this might well point at operating systems like xp and Vista. Time marches on of course, and I suppose keeping track of special code to use different routines on very different processors and operating systems must be a minefield in itself. Brian
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Re: accessible word processors with NVDA
Gerardo Corripio
And for Spanish use? How's Libre Office with NVDA?
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Gera Enviado desde mi iPhone 5S
El 14/01/2017, a las 11:52 p.m., Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@gmail.com> escribió:
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Re: Returning from Sleep or Hybernation
#addonrelease
#adminnotice
#cal-invite
#cal-reminder
Thomas Stivers
Windows sends a message to running programs when it returns from sleep or hibernation. The power notify add-on uses this to cause NVDA to beep as soon as the computer is awake. It also speaks when the AC adapter is plugged or unplugged. The add-on is pretty basic, but it gets the job done.
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian's Mail list account Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2017 4:27 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Returning from Sleep or Hybernation #addonrelease #adminnotice #addonrelease #adminnotice #cal-invite #cal-reminder #cal-invite innotice No but I do have some issues with some machines coming back from hibernate not seeing the network be it hard wired or wifi, which is a great shame as as you say, nvda seems pretty good. I guess you could just try it. I don't see how this might be possible as hibernate is like a snapshot I always thought having no idea its been away, so to speak. Brian bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas Stivers" <thomas.stivers@gmail.com> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 3:06 PM Subject: [nvda] Returning from Sleep or Hybernation #addonrelease #adminnotice #addonrelease #adminnotice #cal-invite #cal-reminder #cal-invite #adminnotice All, I have my laptop set up to sleep when I close the lid while plugged in and hibernate when I close the lid on battery. This is working well as far as NVDA coming back when I return from sleep, but I would like a way to get a spoken announcement when the computer is ready to use after waking up. Before I start trying to put something together with an add-on for NVDA or an autoHotKey script I'd like to know if anyone else has solved this. Thank you, Thomas
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Re: accessible word processors with NVDA
Gene
It's a small utility. It works with equal
efficiency whether word is installed or not.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: nasrin khaksar
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2017 7:43 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible word processors with
NVDA how does it work without installing microsoft office? is it free? how many mb is? On 1/15/17, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote: > Jarte doesn't need Office installed. All you have to do is install the > compatibility pack which makes Word and some other programs able to read > Docx files. You can install and use the compatibility pack whether Office > is installed or not. > > Gene > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: nasrin khaksar > Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2017 6:55 AM > To: nvda@nvda.groups.io > Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible word processors with NVDA > > > hi. > i recommend you libreoffice. > but it has also the limitations which gene mentioned like openoffice, > libreoffice is fork of openoffice and can export documents as docx. > also if i am correct, i remember that jarte needs microsoft office > installed, for openning docx files. > > On 1/15/17, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote: >> There are programs such as Open Office which I've seen discussed often >> here. >> But I haven't used them and I don't know what the limitations are in >> terms >> of accessibility. I read the messages about such programs but I don't >> use >> them so I don't remember details. The only thing I remember about Open >> office is that read to all doesn't work properly and, as I recall, the >> maximum that is read is a paragraph at which point, reading stops. >> >> Gene >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: Sharni-Lee Ward >> Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2017 6:33 AM >> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io >> Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible word processors with NVDA >> >> >> Well, I got Jarte, and checked the page linked in the help dialogue, and >> the >> link on that page is either broken or the resource it was supposed to >> direct >> you to has been removed. Either way, I'm having to work with rtf files, >> which NVDA doesn't like very much, at least when it comes to accurately >> reporting things like bold, italics and so on in Say-All. Still, it's >> better >> than nothing at all and it's portable. I suppose I could adjust to not >> having spoken page numbers for the time being. >> >> >> >> >> On 15/01/2017 10:20 PM, Gene wrote: >> >> It doesn't need the purchased version. You can install the Microsoft >> pack that gives Microsoft Word and some other programs the ability to >> read >> docx files. if you try to open a Docx file, a dialog comes up telling >> you >> that. It may provide a link in the dialog to the JARTE web page where >> the >> subject is discussed further. >> We don't know how Word is being useed so we don't know if JARTE has all >> the features desired but you can read about it and install and look at >> the >> program to see if it does. >> >> Gene >> >> >> From: Brian's Mail list account >> Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2017 4:38 AM >> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io >> Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible word processors with NVDA >> >> >> The thing about Jarte is that to open docx files it needs the purchased >> version as far as I know. OOpen and Libra Office seem to be able to >> load >> in >> docx files, but as has been discussed here of late, the authors need to >> do >> >> some more work to allow screenreaders to work on all parts of them like >> read >> all etc. >> >> Of course it might be possible to find an old copy of an older version >> of >> >> Office pro corporate which I did and it still worked aand accepted the >> key. >> Legal? Well, its a grey area isn't it. if the original buyer is giving >> it >> >> away, then who cares. >> >> Brian >> >> bglists@... >> Sent via blueyonder. >> Please address personal email to:- >> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' >> in the display name field. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Sharni-Lee Ward" <sharni-lee.ward@...> >> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> >> Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2017 5:18 AM >> Subject: [nvda] accessible word processors with NVDA >> >> >> > Hi, >> > >> > >> > My computer's keyboard's been acting up, and I have my Mum's as a >> > backup, but it doesn't have Microsoft Office on it, and I was >> wondering >> > if there was a decent free word processor out there, accessible with >> > NVDA, that I could install on that computer instead. It would be nice >> if >> > it could read and edit .docx files, but I'm aware I can't have >> everything. >> > >> > >> > The most used features in Word for me are: >> > >> > The Spellchecker, including a whole dictionary of words I've added so >> > Pokémon names, anime characters' names and names I just made up don't >> > get flagged; >> > >> > The word-counter; >> > >> > Page-breaks; >> > >> > Headings (mostly for aesthetic reasons). >> > >> > If there's something out there that does all these things, and is >> free >> > and accessible, I'll be pretty happy with it. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > -- > we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation. > holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107. > in the very authentic narration is: > imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation. > best website for studying islamic book in different languages > al-islam.org > > > > -- we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation. holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107. in the very authentic narration is: imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation. best website for studying islamic book in different languages al-islam.org
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Re: OCR software?
Gene
You can't do what you want, as far as I can
tell. you can look at a PDF file in the Firefox viewer and you can move to
whatever page you want to read. If you just use read to all, each new page
will open automatically when you get to the end of the last page, thus allowing
constant reading online. You can manually move to the end of the opened
pages and then, if you up arrow a number of times and then start down arrowing,
the next page will open. At the top of the viewer, moved to by control
home, or you will be there when the viewer opens, are various controls.
You can move to the controls as you would on any web page since the controls are
part of a web page interface. Control home, as I said. If you move
below them, by movingt down the page, you can read whatever pages are currently
opened.
One button is to save the document. If you
want to open and save a document that is long, the only practical way is to use
the save button. If a document is only a small number of pages, you may
want to open the entire document in the cumbersome way I described or maybe
there is another way to open one page at a time. I've hardly played with
the Firefox view and I haven't learned all the ways to cause a document to
open. But whatever ways exist, it appears that you can only open one page
at a time. Then the pages above that page will still be in the
viewer. So if you want to open an entire document, it appears you will
have to open one page at a time, then copy the entire document to the clipboard
and paste it into notepad. Or you may be able to open the entire document
and use save as to save it as a text file. I don't know. I haven't
played with the menus enough to know what you might be able to do while in the
viewer.
Gene
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From: mk360
built in PDF viewer, in my home is Firefox 50. See https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/view-pdf-files-firefox Regards, mk. El 15/01/2017 a las 1:46, nasrin khaksar escribió: > hi rosemarie, brian and mk. > thanks for your help as always. > but i dont want to read them with my browsers. > i only wish that open my pdf file with firefox and convert it into txt > for reading it with notepad++ > unfortunately there is no any accessible pdf reader which can support > persian language properly. > mk, may i ask which version of firefox has native pdf reader without > need to install plugin? > since which version exactly, firefox supports pdf readeing by default > without any plugin? > thanks again and God bless you! > > On 1/14/17, mk360 <mk.seventhson@...> wrote: >> The latest version of Firefox supports PDF natively. However, I agree >> with you. >> >> >> Regards, >> >> mk. >> >> >> El 14/01/2017 a las 14:00, Brian Vogel escribió: >>> nasrin, >>> >>> I'm sorry, but I can't help you with what you want to do. >>> I can see no rational reason to do it, either, but that's your call. >>> >>> There are so many PDF reading programs, many of which are >>> accessible, other than Adobe Reader or Adobe Acrobat that your time >>> would be much better spent finding a native PDF reading application to >>> suit your needs. >>> >>> I do not know of a single web browser that does not use a >>> plug-in, even if it's written "in house," to open PDF files within the >>> browser. Web browsers are not and never have been true PDF reading >>> programs. >>> -- >>> */Brian/* >>> >>> *//**/He discloses the workings of a mind to which incoherence >>> /**/lends an illusion of profundity./* >>> >>> */~ T. De Vere White/* >>> >>> >>> >> >
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Re: accessible word processors with NVDA
thanks gene.
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how does it work without installing microsoft office? is it free? how many mb is?
On 1/15/17, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:
Jarte doesn't need Office installed. All you have to do is install the --
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation. holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107. in the very authentic narration is: imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation. best website for studying islamic book in different languages al-islam.org
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Re: OCR software?
hi mk.
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thanks so much. this link was that my solution and everythings which i needed! thanks extremely and God bless you.
On 1/15/17, mk360 <mk.seventhson@gmail.com> wrote:
I can't remember. In my office I use Firefox 42 or similar and it uses a --
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation. holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107. in the very authentic narration is: imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation. best website for studying islamic book in different languages al-islam.org
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Re: OCR software?
mk360
I can't remember. In my office I use Firefox 42 or similar and it uses a built in PDF viewer, in my home is Firefox 50.
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See https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/view-pdf-files-firefox Regards, mk.
El 15/01/2017 a las 1:46, nasrin khaksar escribió:
hi rosemarie, brian and mk.
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Re: accessible word processors with NVDA
Gene
Jarte doesn't need Office installed. All you
have to do is install the compatibility pack which makes Word and some other
programs able to read Docx files. You can install and use the
compatibility pack whether Office is installed or not.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: nasrin khaksar
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2017 6:55 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible word processors with
NVDA i recommend you libreoffice. but it has also the limitations which gene mentioned like openoffice, libreoffice is fork of openoffice and can export documents as docx. also if i am correct, i remember that jarte needs microsoft office installed, for openning docx files. On 1/15/17, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote: > There are programs such as Open Office which I've seen discussed often here. > But I haven't used them and I don't know what the limitations are in terms > of accessibility. I read the messages about such programs but I don't use > them so I don't remember details. The only thing I remember about Open > office is that read to all doesn't work properly and, as I recall, the > maximum that is read is a paragraph at which point, reading stops. > > Gene > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Sharni-Lee Ward > Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2017 6:33 AM > To: nvda@nvda.groups.io > Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible word processors with NVDA > > > Well, I got Jarte, and checked the page linked in the help dialogue, and the > link on that page is either broken or the resource it was supposed to direct > you to has been removed. Either way, I'm having to work with rtf files, > which NVDA doesn't like very much, at least when it comes to accurately > reporting things like bold, italics and so on in Say-All. Still, it's better > than nothing at all and it's portable. I suppose I could adjust to not > having spoken page numbers for the time being. > > > > > On 15/01/2017 10:20 PM, Gene wrote: > > It doesn't need the purchased version. You can install the Microsoft > pack that gives Microsoft Word and some other programs the ability to read > docx files. if you try to open a Docx file, a dialog comes up telling you > that. It may provide a link in the dialog to the JARTE web page where the > subject is discussed further. > We don't know how Word is being useed so we don't know if JARTE has all > the features desired but you can read about it and install and look at the > program to see if it does. > > Gene > > > From: Brian's Mail list account > Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2017 4:38 AM > To: nvda@nvda.groups.io > Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible word processors with NVDA > > > The thing about Jarte is that to open docx files it needs the purchased > version as far as I know. OOpen and Libra Office seem to be able to load > in > docx files, but as has been discussed here of late, the authors need to do > > some more work to allow screenreaders to work on all parts of them like > read > all etc. > > Of course it might be possible to find an old copy of an older version of > > Office pro corporate which I did and it still worked aand accepted the > key. > Legal? Well, its a grey area isn't it. if the original buyer is giving it > > away, then who cares. > > Brian > > bglists@... > Sent via blueyonder. > Please address personal email to:- > briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' > in the display name field. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sharni-Lee Ward" <sharni-lee.ward@...> > To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> > Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2017 5:18 AM > Subject: [nvda] accessible word processors with NVDA > > > > Hi, > > > > > > My computer's keyboard's been acting up, and I have my Mum's as a > > backup, but it doesn't have Microsoft Office on it, and I was wondering > > if there was a decent free word processor out there, accessible with > > NVDA, that I could install on that computer instead. It would be nice > if > > it could read and edit .docx files, but I'm aware I can't have > everything. > > > > > > The most used features in Word for me are: > > > > The Spellchecker, including a whole dictionary of words I've added so > > Pokémon names, anime characters' names and names I just made up don't > > get flagged; > > > > The word-counter; > > > > Page-breaks; > > > > Headings (mostly for aesthetic reasons). > > > > If there's something out there that does all these things, and is free > > and accessible, I'll be pretty happy with it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation. holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107. in the very authentic narration is: imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation. best website for studying islamic book in different languages al-islam.org
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Re: accessible word processors with NVDA
hi.
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i recommend you libreoffice. but it has also the limitations which gene mentioned like openoffice, libreoffice is fork of openoffice and can export documents as docx. also if i am correct, i remember that jarte needs microsoft office installed, for openning docx files.
On 1/15/17, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:
There are programs such as Open Office which I've seen discussed often here. --
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation. holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107. in the very authentic narration is: imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation. best website for studying islamic book in different languages al-islam.org
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Re: OCR software?
hi rosemarie.
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i wish that open my pdf files with firefox and convert them into txt. could you please test it and give me the result? after openning file, press control+s and select text document for type of file for saving.
On 1/15/17, slery <slerythema@gmail.com> wrote:
Really? Please tell me where the OCR function is and how to access it in my --
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation. holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107. in the very authentic narration is: imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation. best website for studying islamic book in different languages al-islam.org
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Re: Windows 10 App Essentials 17.01 released
Rémy Ruiz
Hi Joseph!
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Thanks, i am using: 14393.693) If I understand correctly, I can now cheerfully pass this new version: Windows 10 App Essentials 17.01 Thanks again for all! Have a good day! Cheers since France. Rémy Le 14/01/2017 20:53, Joseph Lee a
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Re: accessible word processors with NVDA
Gene
There are programs such as Open Office which I've
seen discussed often here. But I haven't used them and I don't know what
the limitations are in terms of accessibility. I read the messages about
such programs but I don't use them so I don't remember details. The only
thing I remember about Open office is that read to all doesn't work properly
and, as I recall, the maximum that is read is a paragraph at which point,
reading stops.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Sharni-Lee Ward
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2017 6:33 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible word processors with
NVDA Well, I got Jarte, and checked the page linked in the help dialogue, and the
link on that page is either broken or the resource it was supposed to direct you
to has been removed. Either way, I'm having to work with rtf files, which NVDA
doesn't like very much, at least when it comes to accurately reporting things
like bold, italics and so on in Say-All. Still, it's better than nothing at all
and it's portable. I suppose I could adjust to not having spoken page numbers
for the time being. On 15/01/2017 10:20 PM, Gene wrote:
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