Is it possible to use this with NVDA? I used the ad-on but it gave me a hardware error. (I'm not planning on using it regularly, but it's sort of neat for nostalgia's sake.)

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What is the system it uses? If its sapi it should just work but if its an
oddball one then it will need somebody to write a driver for nvda for it,
much like the pico one for the android voice.
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Subject: [nvda] Braille n' Speak Synthesizer


> Is it possible to use this with NVDA? I used the ad-on but it gave me a
> hardware error. (I'm not planning on using it regularly, but it's sort of
> neat for nostalgia's sake.)
>
>
>

Hi Gene,

I have a JAWS 16 home edition version.  It is not in that list of tools.  I don't know if the full version demo would have it.

On 1/16/2017 2:17 AM, Gene wrote:

It likely still is available.  You can run it whether you are running JAWS or not.  It is in the JAWS menu which you open in the all programs menu.  There is an item that says run HJ Pad.  I don't know how the abilities of H J Pad compare with JARTE.  But H J Pad is based on the old menu version of Wordpad.  At least it was.  It has a spell checker, which Word Pad doesn't.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Ron Canazzi

Sent: Monday, January 16, 2017 12:33 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: [nvda] Accessible Word Processor

Hi Group,


I started a new thread on this because I accidentally deleted the
original 'accessible word processor' thread.  In any case, I don't know
if this is still valid or not and it also depends on just what you want
to use your slimmed down and very accessible Word Processor software
for.  IN the old days, you used to get a small program with a spell
checker called HJ Pad when you installed a copy of JAWS (yes I know it's
one of our competitors.)  This little package was totally accessible,
had a spell checker and would save in text or RTF as I recall.  It used
to be available--even if you only had a demo of JAWS. I don't know
whether this is true any more, but 5 years ago, it was so.  I wonder if
anyone has tried installing the newest demos and seeing if they still
include HJ Pad and seeing if it still works after 40 minutes.




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What is the system it uses? If its sapi it should just work but if its an
oddball one then it will need somebody to write a driver for nvda for it,
much like the pico one for the android voice.
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Subject: [nvda] Braille n' Speak Synthesizer


> Is it possible to use this with NVDA? I used the ad-on but it gave me a
> hardware error. (I'm not planning on using it regularly, but it's sort of
> neat for nostalgia's sake.)
>
>
>

On 17 Jan 2017, at 18:52, Robert Kingett <kingettr@gmail.com> wrote:

Could someone send me windows power shell? Is that a good command line utility?

Please, need your urgent help. I need to remove a forgotten password on a laptop I need to access.

It is an HP laptop using Win10.

Many thanks.

Blessings.

Pascal



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gene
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2017 9:05 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible Word Processor



Also, these sorts of attributes can be found by opening the menus, opening tools, then opening fonts from the tools submenu.

Select a fond in the list.

Then tab once. You will be in a list of attributes for the font, italics being one. I didn't tab further to see what else is in the dialog.



Gene

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Sent: Monday, January 16, 2017 7:55 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible Word Processor



You can set fonts. It is more or less the case that if the old Wordpad can do something, HJPad can do it. If you type a sentence and use control I to toggle between italics on and off, the text will be italicized where indicated. I see no reason to believe other such commands are absent. I haven't seen this stated anywhere, but just comparing the old Wordpad to HJPad, even the name, indicates that it was built on the old WordPad. It was intended for use with JAWS basic training material. It may be that the basic training material has changed to the point where HJPad isn't as useful with it as before.



Those who are curious will find, in the HJPad menus under tools, a submenu named sample dialogs. It is interesting to play around with the sample dialogs. Some of them would still make good teaching tools and references.



Gene

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Sent: Monday, January 16, 2017 7:37 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible Word Processor



HJPad does appear to have been removed as an explicitly supported
Utility in Jaws but I actually found it buried away in a strange
location even with Jaws 18.

Quite why it would be hidden in this location I do not know.

It does have a spell checker but little else really. As far as I can
tell you can edit the font but cannot set any font attributes like
bold, italic, or underline.


I always saw it as really a possible notepad replacement rather than a
word processor.

Despite being buried away it does still work.


Anyway I found it on my system under the follwoing very odd path


C:\Windows\Installer\$PatchCache$\Managed\38E784264F70E08468F74BA4CC2F
4C2E\18.0.1835\HJPAD.EXE



David Griffith

David Griffith
On 16/01/2017 10:10, Robert Kingett wrote:

I have not seen any H J Pad, but OpenOffice is the most accessible
word processor besides Microsoft word. There is Jarte, of course, but
I do not count that because you have to pay to get all of the features.

Is it possible to use this with NVDA? I used the ad-on but it gave me a hardware error. (I'm not planning on using it regularly, but it's sort of neat for nostalgia's sake.)

Is the password in question in the laptop bios or is it in windows itself.
if its the former there is little you can do bar buy another mutherboard or another laptop.
If its in windows, if you have a password reset disk then you can probably reset the password.
if not, you could use your windows installation disk and reformat and reinstall windows.
If you can get a win7 pe or 10 talking pe, I think its on opopanax.net but I forget I think http://dl.opopanax.net/files should be it, then you should be able to get that backup your user files then reinstall windows.
On that note, I do wander if you make a password reset disk on another computer you can then use it on a windows computer you have lost the password.



On 17/01/2017 6:48 a.m., Pascal Lambert wrote:

Please, need your urgent help. I need to remove a forgotten password on a laptop I need to access.

It is an HP laptop using Win10.

Many thanks.

Blessings.

Pascal



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2017 9:05 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible Word Processor



Also, these sorts of attributes can be found by opening the menus, opening tools, then opening fonts from the tools submenu.

Select a fond in the list.

Then tab once. You will be in a list of attributes for the font, italics being one. I didn't tab further to see what else is in the dialog.



Gene

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Sent: Monday, January 16, 2017 7:55 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible Word Processor



You can set fonts. It is more or less the case that if the old Wordpad can do something, HJPad can do it. If you type a sentence and use control I to toggle between italics on and off, the text will be italicized where indicated. I see no reason to believe other such commands are absent. I haven't seen this stated anywhere, but just comparing the old Wordpad to HJPad, even the name, indicates that it was built on the old WordPad. It was intended for use with JAWS basic training material. It may be that the basic training material has changed to the point where HJPad isn't as useful with it as before.



Those who are curious will find, in the HJPad menus under tools, a submenu named sample dialogs. It is interesting to play around with the sample dialogs. Some of them would still make good teaching tools and references.



Gene

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From: David Griffith <mailto:daj.griffith@gmail.com>

Sent: Monday, January 16, 2017 7:37 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible Word Processor



HJPad does appear to have been removed as an explicitly supported
Utility in Jaws but I actually found it buried away in a strange
location even with Jaws 18.

Quite why it would be hidden in this location I do not know.

It does have a spell checker but little else really. As far as I can
tell you can edit the font but cannot set any font attributes like bold,
italic, or underline.


I always saw it as really a possible notepad replacement rather than a
word processor.

Despite being buried away it does still work.


Anyway I found it on my system under the follwoing very odd path


C:\Windows\Installer\$PatchCache$\Managed\38E784264F70E08468F74BA4CC2F4C2E\18.0.1835\HJPAD.EXE



David Griffith

David Griffith
On 16/01/2017 10:10, Robert Kingett wrote:

I have not seen any H J Pad, but OpenOffice is the most accessible
word processor besides Microsoft word. There is Jarte, of course, but
I do not count that because you have to pay to get all of the features.

I have not seen any H J Pad, but OpenOffice is the most accessible
word processor besides Microsoft word. There is Jarte, of course, but
I do not count that because you have to pay to get all of the features.

Hi,


I've just made this file in Jarte itself, saved in .rtf. It behaves as I
described below. Since it's a test file specifically created to demonstrate
my issue, I have no problems sending it to the list at large. It's
perfectly safe, guys!

On 16/01/2017 8:58 PM, Sharni-Lee Ward wrote:

Quentin,


I've noticed the opposite. I had Microsoft Word Starter 2010 on my
original computer when I first got it, and then Microsoft Office 2013 when
Mum bought me a license for one computer. NVDA always reads italics and
bold as expected, only on the words that formatting is affecting. In Word
Pad, saved into rtf for the purposes of reading and working with it in
JARTE, the same files the emphasis is clearly announced in have it blurred.
Single italicised words in the middle of lines are passed over, while words
at the beginning of the line dictate whether the whole line will be treated
as plain, italic or bold. When scrolling over it character by character, it
doesn't do this, but when I use say-all, it behaves as I described. It may
be something to do with Office messing things up even when the file's saved
as rtf, but I remember noticing this a long time ago when I thought writing
in word pad was my only means of writing. That resulted in me posting a
chapter of a fanfiction with a whole chunk of text in italics that I never
meant to be so.


I'd send a file, but your email doesn't seem to be tied to this message,
only the email address of the list, and all the relevant files are of
stories or parts of stories I have written. I'm quite protective of rough
drafts of things...

On 16/01/2017 4:50 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:

Sharni,

No I'm not using anything special. If you are re-using the same Word file
over and over or the same template, it's possible there's something hidden
in it that could be causing problems. To be honest, I've more seen that in
Office itself and opening a file in something other than office is more
likely to fix it, but you never know. If you have a file that's doing it,
that you are happy to send me offline, I can have a look and see if it
works on my computer.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 4:17 PM, Sharni-Lee Ward <
sharni-lee.ward@hotmail.com> wrote:

Quentin, do you have any addons or something that might have changed how
NVDA reads Word Pad/Jarte files? I'd be super grateful. I'd have no problem
using Jarte if I could read my stories with the proper emphasis included.

On 16/01/2017 10:24 AM, Quentin Christensen wrote:

Hi Sharni,

Re using Jarte and the Office compatibility pack, try this link from
Microsoft directly: https://www.microsoft.com/en-au/download/details.
aspx?id=3

The en-au in the middle of that address is because I'm in Australia, feel
free to change it to en-us or en-uk etc as needed, I'm not sure it makes a
difference for this.

Regarding wordpad not properly identifying text attributes like Italic,
what version of Windows do you have again? I've tried in the regular
stable build of Windows 10 and in the latest fast insider build (15007) and
NVDA (2016.4) identifies italic etc text in the middle of a line
correctly. EG if I type:

The quick brown fox

and italicise the word "brown", NVDA reads:

The quick italic brown no italic fox.

It does this in Wordpad, Word 2016, Jarte and LibreOffice.

Note that you need to have NVDA's document formatting set to report text
attributes (for italic). Press NVDA+control+d to get to that screen. If
you don't have that set, it won't identify the text as italic regardless of
where it is.

The only place I've seen behaviour similar to what you mentioned (if the
start of a line is italic thinking the whole line is, and not seeing it at
all if it's in the middle of a line), is if part of a cell has different
formatting in Excel.

Kind regards

Quentin.



On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 10:01 AM, Sharni-Lee Ward <
sharni-lee.ward@hotmail.com> wrote:

Thanks! As I said last night, when I tried to follow the link from the
page it said "We are sorry, but the page could not be found" and gave me a
ton of possible search options.


Really though, it doesn't matter what file format the document is when
it comes to displaying. If I want to work in the file with Jarte, I have to
save in rtf or .doc anyways. I just save a new copy in wordpad to the rtf
format and then it reads it fine. I do miss announced page numbers and NVDA
being nice about italics though. What I mean is, in Word Pad, if a word is
italicised in the middle of a line, NVDA doesn't report it, and if it's at
the beginning of a line, NVDA acts like the whole line is italicised even
though it isn't. Same with bold, underline, and so on. Is there an addon
that corrects this behaviour? Or will there be an improvement in NVDA in
that regard? I know I'd be grateful for it. Then Jarte would be just
that bit less irritating.

On 16/01/2017 8:48 AM, Gene wrote:

You can download the installation file to allow you to work with docx
files here:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/25812011/FileFormatConve
rters.exe?dl=1

Gene
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*Subject:* Re: [nvda] accessible word processors with NVDA

if you could please send the link to your dropbox, that would be very
much appreciated. I also am considering using chart, but don't really want
to pay the money for it partially because I don't have the money for it.

Noah Carver

On Jan 15, 2017, at 15:16, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@gmail.com> wrote:

I would like to caution users that use an microsoft product, ie office

2013 and up certainly it does this on 2016.

Aparently the older software has some incompatibility when upgrading

the os from one version to another.

It tends to default extentions back to open xml viewer which itself is

not helpfull.

Worse excell refuses to be able to process file commands and can not

start until you repair office.

For the systems that had filter pack aand the compatibility pack

installed, I solved this by removing both these packs then repairing office
as on restart no files opened at all.

Ever since then updates have worked as expected.
If you are on a shared system with office.
Every time you update the os especially when its a security update not

a performance update, including newer and older office updates, you will
need to repair office with the quick repair before using it again.

I am not sure why that is but thats a way to get round it.
If you often need a share then thats fine but if you don't it is

easier to kill the extra converter packs.

I should also want to add that I have old word xp converters for some

older files that came from an xp machine that perminantly exist on my
dropbox cloud, they are so small just like xp sound recorder its unlikely I
will ever kill them so they stay till I die I guess.

I have no inttention of killing them.
The only thing you do need is sevenzip to decompress them but if

someone wants to make an installer email me and I'll send the link for
copywrite reasons jarte can't store those on its site but.

On 16/01/2017 12:20 a.m., Gene wrote:
It doesn't need the purchased version. You can install the

Microsoft pack that gives Microsoft Word and some other programs the
ability to read docx files. if you try to open a Docx file, a dialog comes
up telling you that. It may provide a link in the dialog to the JARTE web
page where the subject is discussed further.

We don't know how Word is being useed so we don't know if JARTE has

all the features desired but you can read about it and install and look at
the program to see if it does.

Gene


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To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible word processors with NVDA


The thing about Jarte is that to open docx files it needs the

purchased

version as far as I know. OOpen and Libra Office seem to be able to

load in

docx files, but as has been discussed here of late, the authors need

to do

some more work to allow screenreaders to work on all parts of them

like read

all etc.

Of course it might be possible to find an old copy of an older

version of

Office pro corporate which I did and it still worked aand accepted

the key.

Legal? Well, its a grey area isn't it. if the original buyer is

giving it

away, then who cares.

Brian

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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2017 5:18 AM
Subject: [nvda] accessible word processors with NVDA

Hi,


My computer's keyboard's been acting up, and I have my Mum's as a
backup, but it doesn't have Microsoft Office on it, and I was

wondering

if there was a decent free word processor out there, accessible with
NVDA, that I could install on that computer instead. It would be

nice if

it could read and edit .docx files, but I'm aware I can't have

everything.

The most used features in Word for me are:

The Spellchecker, including a whole dictionary of words I've added so
Pokémon names, anime characters' names and names I just made up don't
get flagged;

The word-counter;

Page-breaks;

Headings (mostly for aesthetic reasons).

If there's something out there that does all these things, and is

free

and accessible, I'll be pretty happy with it.

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Hi All,



I bought the codefactory synth for eloquence.



It was working great for the last few months, but this morning I
started up nvda for the first time in a few weeks, and eloquence doesn't

Below is my NVDA log output. Anyone have any ideas?



Thanks.



Log Start:



INFO - __main__ (07:25:56):

Starting NVDA

INFO - core.main (07:25:56):

Config dir: C:\Users\juan\AppData\Roaming\nvda

INFO - config.ConfigManager._loadConfig (07:25:56):

Loading config: C:\Users\juan\AppData\Roaming\nvda\nvda.ini

INFO - core.main (07:25:56):

NVDA version next-13810,35a74429

INFO - core.main (07:25:56):

Using Windows version 10.0.14931 workstation

INFO - core.main (07:25:56):

Using Python version 2.7.13 (v2.7.13:a06454b1afa1, Dec 17 2016,
20:42:59) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)]

INFO - core.main (07:25:56):

Using comtypes version 0.6.2

ERROR - external:synthDrivers._cfnvdainterface._initalize (07:25:57):

TTS loading

Traceback (most recent call last):

File
"C:\Users\juan\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\codefactory\synthDrivers\_c
fnvdainterface.py",
line 324, in _initalize

File "wx\_core.pyc", line 16761, in CallAfter

AssertionError: No wx.App created yet

ERROR - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (07:25:57):

setSynth

Traceback (most recent call last):

File "synthDriverHandler.pyc", line 86, in setSynth

File
"C:\Users\juan\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\codefactory\synthDrivers\_c
odefactorytts.py",
line 42, in __init__

File
"C:\Users\juan\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\codefactory\synthDrivers\_c
fnvdainterface.py",
line 268, in initialize

File
"C:\Users\juan\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\codefactory\synthDrivers\_c
fnvdainterface.py",
line 358, in _initalize

CodeFactoryException:
C:\Users\juan\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\codefactory\File\EloquenceNV
DA.DLL
is not valid

INFO - synthDrivers.espeak.SynthDriver.__init__ (07:25:57):

Using eSpeak NG version 1.49.1 dev

INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (07:25:57):

Loaded synthDriver espeak

INFO - core.main (07:25:57):

Using wx version 3.0.2.0 msw (classic)

INFO - brailleInput.initialize (07:25:57):

Braille input initialized

INFO - braille.initialize (07:25:57):

Using liblouis version 3.0.0

INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (07:25:57):

Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells.

INFO - _UIAHandler.UIAHandler.MTAThreadFunc (07:25:57):

UIAutomation: IUIAutomation3

INFO - core.main (07:25:57):

NVDA initialized







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Hi All,



I bought the codefactory synth for eloquence.



It was working great for the last few months, but this morning I started
up nvda for the first time in a few weeks, and eloquence doesn’t work.



Below is my NVDA log output. Anyone have any ideas?



Thanks.



Log Start:



INFO - __main__ (07:25:56):

Starting NVDA

INFO - core.main (07:25:56):

Config dir: C:\Users\juan\AppData\Roaming\nvda

INFO - config.ConfigManager._loadConfig (07:25:56):

Loading config: C:\Users\juan\AppData\Roaming\nvda\nvda.ini

INFO - core.main (07:25:56):

NVDA version next-13810,35a74429

INFO - core.main (07:25:56):

Using Windows version 10.0.14931 workstation

INFO - core.main (07:25:56):

Using Python version 2.7.13 (v2.7.13:a06454b1afa1, Dec 17 2016,
20:42:59) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)]

INFO - core.main (07:25:56):

Using comtypes version 0.6.2

ERROR - external:synthDrivers._cfnvdainterface._initalize (07:25:57):

TTS loading

Traceback (most recent call last):

File
"C:\Users\juan\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\codefactory\synthDrivers\_cfnvdainterface.py",
line 324, in _initalize

File "wx\_core.pyc", line 16761, in CallAfter

AssertionError: No wx.App created yet

ERROR - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (07:25:57):

setSynth

Traceback (most recent call last):

File "synthDriverHandler.pyc", line 86, in setSynth

File
"C:\Users\juan\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\codefactory\synthDrivers\_codefactorytts.py",
line 42, in __init__

File
"C:\Users\juan\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\codefactory\synthDrivers\_cfnvdainterface.py",
line 268, in initialize

File
"C:\Users\juan\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\codefactory\synthDrivers\_cfnvdainterface.py",
line 358, in _initalize

CodeFactoryException:
C:\Users\juan\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\codefactory\File\EloquenceNVDA.DLL
is not valid

INFO - synthDrivers.espeak.SynthDriver.__init__ (07:25:57):

Using eSpeak NG version 1.49.1 dev

INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (07:25:57):

Loaded synthDriver espeak

INFO - core.main (07:25:57):

Using wx version 3.0.2.0 msw (classic)

INFO - brailleInput.initialize (07:25:57):

Braille input initialized

INFO - braille.initialize (07:25:57):

Using liblouis version 3.0.0

INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (07:25:57):

Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells.

INFO - _UIAHandler.UIAHandler.MTAThreadFunc (07:25:57):

UIAutomation: IUIAutomation3

INFO - core.main (07:25:57):

NVDA initialized







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Hello again, Here are corrected links... I hope.

Here is a link to computestick first generation with windows 10:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B014N4CZE2/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&;camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B014N4CZE2&linkCode=as2&tag=inclusivean03-20&linkId=b216c581e63a0da38d2277aaa219e995

Here is a link to the current generation with windows 10:
http://amzn.to/2iD7TbV

These are both in your price range. Asside from them getting warm and not

having a

n anolog audio jack, I'm pretty happy with the first generation. I

hacked it to ubuntoo using images and instructions I found online. There's
an hdmi, one usb, and one SD on the first generation model. I haven't
looked closely at the second generation, but for the pricepoint, I would
definitely give it a glance.

I hope this helps,

Erik

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On January 13, 2017 1:46:09 PM "coffeekingms@hotmail.com"
<coffeekingms@hotmail.com> wrote:

hi all

My birthday is coming up next month and I'm stuck between an iPod
nano, or a compute stick. I'm not sure what they're actually supposed
to be called,but what I'm talking about is a miniature computer that
terminates in an HDMI port which connects to an HDTV or projector,
with enough storage, bluetooth, wi fi, and a micro sd card slot to use
as an every day laptop. I've looked around a little, but they're quite
expensive, about the cheapest I've run across that sounds like it
might be powerful enough to run both windows 10 and sonar linux well
is the acer chromebot, which is around 90 dollars. The thing about
chrome OS devices is that I don't know a thing about them. They're
linux underneath the google, but I don't know if they're as easy to
duel boot as a regular x86 or x64 pc is. Does anyone know of a good
device that would do this for at least a reasonable price? I'd say
around my absolute top would be $150, and for that it had better be
top of the line or mellisa will ... well she won't be happy. I don't
have many requirements, but I'd like it to be able to run windows 10
at least reasonably well, including some casual gaming like killer
instinct, the windows 10 version, and emulated systems like the
gamecube, wii and n64, and that it have a micro sd card slot, wi fi
and bluetooth. Three or four USB ports would be nice, but not
essential at all, I can just get a USB hub if I have to for extra
ports. A package deal where one comes with the device, a hub and maybe
a bluetooth keyboard would be nice, but I don't want to complicate
things, so not at all necessary, just convenient. I have a keyboard
already. It's a logitech, and it uses one of those wireless receivers.

I'll shut up now lol.

Thanks

Kendell Clark



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Hi, I take it you got the links to work then? Some one reported a failure, but before I had time to look into it, the message got deleted by my over enthusiastic cleanup procedure.

I don't know of a list specifically for computestick. I'm not certain what the point would be as they are only intel's proprietary version of a standard windows PC and there are entire and decently accessible websites dedicated to information abut hacking them. The only real pitfall I've come across yet is the lack of an anolog audio out, but since the thing is intended for use in home theatres and most monitors have some audio support nowadays, few people aut to be effected by the lack of a 3.5 mm jack for hooking up speakers.

It's kind'a O/t but I'll be happy to answer any questions you have as I can. My parents have the first generation. For the price difference, I would only consider the 2nd gen at this point. It wasn't an option when my parents were in the market.

Best,

Erik

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On January 17, 2017 1:25:28 AM "slery" <slerythema@gmail.com> wrote:

Thanks for these links. Is there a list some where for discussing these
(specifically with accessibility in mind)? I might entertain one of these
for my next build (found one that is actually bigger than a stick but still
way smaller than the tower on my computer that I built from scratch).

Cindy

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of erik
burggraaf
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 4:20 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] looking for a good compute stick

Hi, compute stick is intel's model of tiny personal computer.

Here is a link to computestick first generation with windows 10:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B014N4CZE2/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&;camp=1789&
creative=9325&creativeASIN=B014N4CZE2&linkCode=as2&tag=inclusivean03-20&link
Id=b216c581e63a0da38d2277aaa219e995

Here is a link to the current generation with windows 10:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/search/ref=as_li_qf_sp_sr_il_tl?ie=UTF8&;tag=inclus
ivean03-20&keywords=intel
computestick&index=aps&camp=1789&creative=9325&linkCode=xm2&linkId=a7ceb8363
e1963a1f8e899b438362d3c

These are both in your price range. Asside from them getting warm and not
having an anolog audio jack, I'm pretty happy with the first generation. I
hacked it to ubuntoo using images and instructions I found online. There's
an hdmi, one usb, and one SD on the first generation model. I haven't
looked closely at the second generation, but for the pricepoint, I would
definitely give it a glance.

I hope this helps,

Erik

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On January 13, 2017 1:46:09 PM "coffeekingms@hotmail.com"
<coffeekingms@hotmail.com> wrote:

hi all

My birthday is coming up next month and I'm stuck between an iPod
nano, or a compute stick. I'm not sure what they're actually supposed
to be called,but what I'm talking about is a miniature computer that
terminates in an HDMI port which connects to an HDTV or projector,
with enough storage, bluetooth, wi fi, and a micro sd card slot to use
as an every day laptop. I've looked around a little, but they're quite
expensive, about the cheapest I've run across that sounds like it
might be powerful enough to run both windows 10 and sonar linux well
is the acer chromebot, which is around 90 dollars. The thing about
chrome OS devices is that I don't know a thing about them. They're
linux underneath the google, but I don't know if they're as easy to
duel boot as a regular x86 or x64 pc is. Does anyone know of a good
device that would do this for at least a reasonable price? I'd say
around my absolute top would be $150, and for that it had better be
top of the line or mellisa will ... well she won't be happy. I don't
have many requirements, but I'd like it to be able to run windows 10
at least reasonably well, including some casual gaming like killer
instinct, the windows 10 version, and emulated systems like the
gamecube, wii and n64, and that it have a micro sd card slot, wi fi
and bluetooth. Three or four USB ports would be nice, but not
essential at all, I can just get a USB hub if I have to for extra
ports. A package deal where one comes with the device, a hub and maybe
a bluetooth keyboard would be nice, but I don't want to complicate
things, so not at all necessary, just convenient. I have a keyboard
already. It's a logitech, and it uses one of those wireless receivers.

I'll shut up now lol.

Thanks

Kendell Clark



--
Without coffee, life is not worth living. Anonymous