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Re: Forcing an NVDA Search rather than a built-in search function

Angelo Sonnesso
 

I do but I haven’t tried, I have a meeting, but I will give it a try when I get back.

 

 

73 N2DYN Angelo

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 12:36 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Forcing an NVDA Search rather than a built-in search function

 

We don't know if it's a general problem.  Do you have Firefox?  If not, all we know is that on your machine, there is no problem using Chrome.  But we don't know if there would be a problem using firefox. I'd have to experiment to see what behavior I get on my machine using both the newest NVDA and the newest Firefox.

 

Gene 

 

Gene

 

Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 9:35 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Forcing an NVDA Search rather than a built-in search function

 

It seems to be a Firefox problem.

I just tried it in Chrome, and it works just fine.

I also tried it on your email message, and it worked.

 

73 N2DYN Angelo

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 10:26 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Forcing an NVDA Search rather than a built-in search function

 

Also, as of this morning, just now, I'm back to the *%$&^ behavior where when I'm hitting INS+CTRL+F I am not ever getting the NVDA search dialog box but always having the Firefox page search bar come up at the bottom of the screen.   This is immensely frustrating for me and I cannot even begin to imagine the orders of magnitude of additional frustration that would be added were I depending on this to behave in a predictable way to actually get work done.

-- 

Brian

 He discloses the workings of a mind to which incoherence lends an illusion of profundity.

         ~ T. De Vere White

    

 
Re: Accessible Internet Speed Test

Gene
 

Testing on the latest version of Firefox, and the latest production version of NVDA using XP, this is an example of a page that doesn't work with JAWS or NVDA. 
It gets stuck.  I can close the program without a problem and nothing crashes but speech stops or almost completely does.  Whether the screen-reader stops performing or whether the browser stops or both is something I don't know.  I couldn't use the site with XP Narrator but when I tested with it, I was able to tab around and hear some fields read. 
 
In short, whether this is a problem for the Firefox developers to solve or for NVDA, I don't know.  I'm presenting it here to see if others report the same problem testing on different machines and versions of Windows and in case those who work on NVDA want to experiment..
 
I haven't tested other sites or pages with up-to-date versions of NVDA and I don't remember which versions of Firefox I tried, but I've found one or two other sites or pages recently that appear to have the same or similar behavior.
Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Gene
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 9:32 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible Internet Speed Test

There is no reason to press the start button again once it is announced.  Just look at the page.  The results are there.  it would make no logical sense for the test to require start to be pressed twice. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 8:33 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible Internet Speed Test

Bing has a built in speedtest that is accessible as well with two ways to access it.

The more complex way is to open bing.com, and just search for speedtest.  Along with the normal search results, Bing will display its own speedtest.  The title of the test is the page main landmark as well as a level 4 heading called “Speed testID - <your IP number>”. 

One Tab gets you to the test start button, there is no indication that the test is running once you activate Start, but it will say “Start” again when it is done.

One Tab will read your Ping, the next Tab reads your download speed and one more Tab reads your upload speed.

The other way to use it is a direct link, but there is no guarantee they will let it stay directly linkable:

www.bing.com/widget/t/speedtest

This loads with you landing on the start button.  After activating it you will hear “Start” the second time to indicate the test is done.  Use the Tab key as above to read your information.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kevin Chao
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 8:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible Internet Speed Test

 

https://fast.com/ from Netflix is what I use and find it to be clean and accessible

On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 2:20 PM Arlene <nedster66@...> wrote:

Hello, It does! It tells you your ip address and your provider. For example Concast. Or whatever you use.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kostadin Kolev
Sent: January-12-17 11:52 AM


To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible Internet Speed Test

 

Hello,

Actually, I think it gives you that information too: The name of your internet service provider and your IP address - they appear one after the other. Just read the information after the link labeled "Again" after the test is done. It starts with the name and location of the server used to do the testing (the end point) - they are links. After that is the name of your internet service provider and after that - your IP address. Then there is some sort of rating information. After that are the results of your internet speed test.

______
Best wishes,
Kostadin Kolev

 

На 12.1.2017 г. в 21:04, Brandon Keith Biggs написа:

Hello,

It worked great for me! Thank you!

I would like it if it gave more information like your IP address and whatnot as well, but currently I got all I needed.

Thanks,


 

On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 11:01 AM, Arlene <nedster66@...> wrote:

Hi there: Does this work for all internet isps?

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kostadin Kolev
Sent: January-12-17 10:16 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible Internet Speed Test

 

Hello,

Go to:

http://beta.speedtest.net

This is beta, but it is good enough. It is based on HTML5 technology, if I'm not mistaking. Find the link labeled "GO!" and activate it. The internet speed test will start. You'll be notified when it is completed and the results from it. But you can manually read the results on the page - find the link labeled "Again" and read the information after it - it contains the test results.

Note, that if you are using Firefox for the testing, NVDA may get a lot chatty during the test and repeat that the test is over 50% completed a lot of times. Use Internet Explorer to do the testing if you don't want to hear all that chattiness - it does not occur in it. Hmm, could this chattiness be a Firefox issue? Maybe we should report it?

______
Best wishes,
Kostadin Kolev

 

На 12.1.2017 г. в 19:15, Brandon Keith Biggs написа:

Hello,

Does anyone know of an accessible internet speed test? Most of the speed tests I have found only show speeds in a flash frame.

Thanks,

 

 

 
Re: OCR software?

Brian Vogel
 

On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 01:43 am, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
It really does depend on how good the scan is of course

 You have nothing to lose but a few minutes time to test out either PDF-XChange Viewer (which uses the "old Windows interface style" and I know to be accessible for running OCR) or the free edition of PDF-XChange Editor to check out whether it suits your needs.  Here are the step-by-step instructions I wrote for a client who was a grad student who kept having old image scanned PDFs assigned for reading by various professors on how to OCR process them using PDF-XChange Viewer:

PDF-XChange Viewer

Used when you receive a PDF that was scanned without Optical Character Recognition.  For reading stick to Adobe Reader.

1.     Open PDF-XChange Viewer from your start menu.

2.     ALT+F, O  Open a file, you’ll need to know where it is and navigate there in the Open Dialog, which is very much like Windows Explorer.

3.     CTRL+SHIFT+C  Perform optical character recognition on the file.  This will be quick for small files, 20 pages or less, but will take some time for very large files, hundreds of pages.  Listen for the process to complete.

4.     ALT+F, S  Save the file over itself with the OCR text now included.  If you wish to save the file under a different name and keep the original use ALT+F, A Save As to do this instead.

--
Brian

 He discloses the workings of a mind to which incoherence lends an illusion of profundity.

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Re: OCR software?

Brian Vogel
 

Nasrin,

         My personal advice is to never open PDF files in a web browser for reading.  I have had way too many "inconsistencies" with how screen readers interact with the plug-ins (usually the Adobe Reader plug-in) in the browsers themselves.  It usually turns into a nightmare of one sort or another.

         I routinely tweak the web browser or web browsers on a client's system (and have done this on my own as well) to force PDFs to open in the PDF reader you have set as the default on your system rather than within the browser itself.  Since most folks have Adobe Reader in one of its versions, and this has been scripted for every screen reader I've ever touched, you have a much more reliable and consistent PDF reading experience once you're used to using the PDF reader program with your screen reader.   It also has the added advantage of making it much easier to recognize when you've been handed an old PDF that was image scanned and that will need to be OCR processed if it is something that you know contains text before it can be read by the screen reader.
--
Brian

 He discloses the workings of a mind to which incoherence lends an illusion of profundity.

         ~ T. De Vere White

    
Re: Accessible Internet Speed Test

Suptic, Paul <psuptic@...>
 

Correct, you only have to activate the start button once.  Once the test has run you screen reader will announce “Start” a second time, as there is no other audio indication while it runs.

For reference, NVDA will read “Start” a second time, JAWS does not read anything or give any indication that the test has finished.

This may have been have been a good candidate for three assertive ARIA live regions for the results, since forcing the announcement of each as they populate would also show that the test was running.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 8:33 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible Internet Speed Test

 

There is no reason to press the start button again once it is announced.  Just look at the page.  The results are there.  it would make no logical sense for the test to require start to be pressed twice. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Suptic, Paul

Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 8:33 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible Internet Speed Test

 

Bing has a built in speedtest that is accessible as well with two ways to access it.

The more complex way is to open bing.com, and just search for speedtest.  Along with the normal search results, Bing will display its own speedtest.  The title of the test is the page main landmark as well as a level 4 heading called “Speed testID - <your IP number>”. 

One Tab gets you to the test start button, there is no indication that the test is running once you activate Start, but it will say “Start” again when it is done.

One Tab will read your Ping, the next Tab reads your download speed and one more Tab reads your upload speed.

The other way to use it is a direct link, but there is no guarantee they will let it stay directly linkable:

www.bing.com/widget/t/speedtest

This loads with you landing on the start button.  After activating it you will hear “Start” the second time to indicate the test is done.  Use the Tab key as above to read your information.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kevin Chao
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 8:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible Internet Speed Test

 

https://fast.com/ from Netflix is what I use and find it to be clean and accessible

On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 2:20 PM Arlene <nedster66@...> wrote:

Hello, It does! It tells you your ip address and your provider. For example Concast. Or whatever you use.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kostadin Kolev
Sent: January-12-17 11:52 AM


To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible Internet Speed Test

 

Hello,

Actually, I think it gives you that information too: The name of your internet service provider and your IP address - they appear one after the other. Just read the information after the link labeled "Again" after the test is done. It starts with the name and location of the server used to do the testing (the end point) - they are links. After that is the name of your internet service provider and after that - your IP address. Then there is some sort of rating information. After that are the results of your internet speed test.

______
Best wishes,
Kostadin Kolev

 

На 12.1.2017 г. в 21:04, Brandon Keith Biggs написа:

Hello,

It worked great for me! Thank you!

I would like it if it gave more information like your IP address and whatnot as well, but currently I got all I needed.

Thanks,


 

On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 11:01 AM, Arlene <nedster66@...> wrote:

Hi there: Does this work for all internet isps?

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kostadin Kolev
Sent: January-12-17 10:16 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible Internet Speed Test

 

Hello,

Go to:

http://beta.speedtest.net

This is beta, but it is good enough. It is based on HTML5 technology, if I'm not mistaking. Find the link labeled "GO!" and activate it. The internet speed test will start. You'll be notified when it is completed and the results from it. But you can manually read the results on the page - find the link labeled "Again" and read the information after it - it contains the test results.

Note, that if you are using Firefox for the testing, NVDA may get a lot chatty during the test and repeat that the test is over 50% completed a lot of times. Use Internet Explorer to do the testing if you don't want to hear all that chattiness - it does not occur in it. Hmm, could this chattiness be a Firefox issue? Maybe we should report it?

______
Best wishes,
Kostadin Kolev

 

На 12.1.2017 г. в 19:15, Brandon Keith Biggs написа:

Hello,

Does anyone know of an accessible internet speed test? Most of the speed tests I have found only show speeds in a flash frame.

Thanks,

 

 

 
Re: Accessible Internet Speed Test

Gene
 

There is no reason to press the start button again once it is announced.  Just look at the page.  The results are there.  it would make no logical sense for the test to require start to be pressed twice. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 8:33 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible Internet Speed Test

Bing has a built in speedtest that is accessible as well with two ways to access it.

The more complex way is to open bing.com, and just search for speedtest.  Along with the normal search results, Bing will display its own speedtest.  The title of the test is the page main landmark as well as a level 4 heading called “Speed testID - <your IP number>”. 

One Tab gets you to the test start button, there is no indication that the test is running once you activate Start, but it will say “Start” again when it is done.

One Tab will read your Ping, the next Tab reads your download speed and one more Tab reads your upload speed.

The other way to use it is a direct link, but there is no guarantee they will let it stay directly linkable:

www.bing.com/widget/t/speedtest

This loads with you landing on the start button.  After activating it you will hear “Start” the second time to indicate the test is done.  Use the Tab key as above to read your information.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kevin Chao
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 8:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible Internet Speed Test

 

https://fast.com/ from Netflix is what I use and find it to be clean and accessible

On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 2:20 PM Arlene <nedster66@...> wrote:

Hello, It does! It tells you your ip address and your provider. For example Concast. Or whatever you use.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kostadin Kolev
Sent: January-12-17 11:52 AM


To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible Internet Speed Test

 

Hello,

Actually, I think it gives you that information too: The name of your internet service provider and your IP address - they appear one after the other. Just read the information after the link labeled "Again" after the test is done. It starts with the name and location of the server used to do the testing (the end point) - they are links. After that is the name of your internet service provider and after that - your IP address. Then there is some sort of rating information. After that are the results of your internet speed test.

______
Best wishes,
Kostadin Kolev

 

На 12.1.2017 г. в 21:04, Brandon Keith Biggs написа:

Hello,

It worked great for me! Thank you!

I would like it if it gave more information like your IP address and whatnot as well, but currently I got all I needed.

Thanks,


 

On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 11:01 AM, Arlene <nedster66@...> wrote:

Hi there: Does this work for all internet isps?

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kostadin Kolev
Sent: January-12-17 10:16 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible Internet Speed Test

 

Hello,

Go to:

http://beta.speedtest.net

This is beta, but it is good enough. It is based on HTML5 technology, if I'm not mistaking. Find the link labeled "GO!" and activate it. The internet speed test will start. You'll be notified when it is completed and the results from it. But you can manually read the results on the page - find the link labeled "Again" and read the information after it - it contains the test results.

Note, that if you are using Firefox for the testing, NVDA may get a lot chatty during the test and repeat that the test is over 50% completed a lot of times. Use Internet Explorer to do the testing if you don't want to hear all that chattiness - it does not occur in it. Hmm, could this chattiness be a Firefox issue? Maybe we should report it?

______
Best wishes,
Kostadin Kolev

 

На 12.1.2017 г. в 19:15, Brandon Keith Biggs написа:

Hello,

Does anyone know of an accessible internet speed test? Most of the speed tests I have found only show speeds in a flash frame.

Thanks,

 

 

 
Re: whats new in 2017.1:

enes sarıbaş
 

hi,

or the next branch. Though I just checked, and there aren't many changes so far.

On 1/13/2017 5:59 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
One way to find out is installing the master branch and reading what's new.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of nasrin khaksar
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 10:47 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] whats new in 2017.1:

hi joseph.
could you please send me whats new of 2017.1 in my email address?
thanks so much.

On 1/13/17, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,

So many under development at this time. There is a major showstopper
in latest Windows 10 preview builds that prevents certain features
from working as advertised in newer Windows 10 builds.

Cheers,

Joseph



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Kenny Peyattt jr.
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 4:41 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] whats new in 2017.1:



Hi I wonder what features will be in 2017.1?

Kenny Peyatt jr.



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Re: whats new in 2017.1:

Joseph Lee
 

Hi,
One way to find out is installing the master branch and reading what's new.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of nasrin khaksar
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 10:47 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] whats new in 2017.1:

hi joseph.
could you please send me whats new of 2017.1 in my email address?
thanks so much.

On 1/13/17, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,

So many under development at this time. There is a major showstopper
in latest Windows 10 preview builds that prevents certain features
from working as advertised in newer Windows 10 builds.

Cheers,

Joseph



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Kenny Peyattt jr.
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 4:41 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] whats new in 2017.1:



Hi I wonder what features will be in 2017.1?

Kenny Peyatt jr.



Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986>; for
Windows
10






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we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
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in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages al-islam.org
Re: Quick Survey

zahra
 

and you can send it for me.

On 1/13/17, Bill Dengler <codeofdusk@gmail.com> wrote:
You will receive it if you’re selected, probably within the next few days.

Bill
On Jan 13, 2017, at 7:03 AM, nasrin khaksar <nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com>
wrote:

hi.
i completed your survey but i did not recieve your second survey in my
email address.

On 1/13/17, Bill Dengler <codeofdusk@gmail.com
<mailto:codeofdusk@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hello,

If you're blind or visually impaired, please take this quick survey on
reading media. It's part of an internal assessment for my math class.
Thanks
in advance for your time!
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSenMpU1_la7wr3pq_OMIiFFiHhPTJTKYw22
P0TBs0ww4kfp2w/viewform



Bill


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holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org <http://al-islam.org/>;

--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org
Re: whats new in 2017.1:

Davy Cuppens
 

Please please please sometimes I guess this is a list of little childeren.
Quentin, can you please already send me the whatsnew of nvda 2025.5? Hahahahaha!
Please please be patient and do post relevant questions and things that matter!
Regards
Davy
 

Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 9:38 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] whats new in 2017.1:
 
Hi Nasrin,
 
2017.1 isn't out yet so there's no what's new just yet.  If you are really interested though, you are always welcome to try the snapshot builds.  They are mostly to test new features before they make it to the next stable build.  The "Master" builds can be considered beta quality - features should mostly work but there might be bugs.  The "Next" builds are alpha quality - they have quite new code which may not have been tested much at all and may produce unexpected results.
 
The snapshot builds are available from: http://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/snapshots/
 
 
 
On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 5:47 PM, nasrin khaksar <nasrinkhaksar3@...> wrote:
hi joseph.
could you please send me whats new of 2017.1 in my email address?
thanks so much.

On 1/13/17, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> So many under development at this time. There is a major showstopper in
> latest Windows 10 preview builds that prevents certain features from working
> as advertised in newer Windows 10 builds.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Joseph
>
>
>
> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kenny
> Peyattt jr.
> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 4:41 PM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: [nvda] whats new in 2017.1:
>
>
>
> Hi I wonder what features will be in 2017.1?
>
> Kenny Peyatt jr.
>
>
>
> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986>  for Windows
> 10
>
>
>
>
>
>


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imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
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al-islam.org





 
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Re: Accessible Internet Speed Test

Suptic, Paul <psuptic@...>
 

Bing has a built in speedtest that is accessible as well with two ways to access it.

The more complex way is to open bing.com, and just search for speedtest.  Along with the normal search results, Bing will display its own speedtest.  The title of the test is the page main landmark as well as a level 4 heading called “Speed testID - <your IP number>”. 

One Tab gets you to the test start button, there is no indication that the test is running once you activate Start, but it will say “Start” again when it is done.

One Tab will read your Ping, the next Tab reads your download speed and one more Tab reads your upload speed.

The other way to use it is a direct link, but there is no guarantee they will let it stay directly linkable:

www.bing.com/widget/t/speedtest

This loads with you landing on the start button.  After activating it you will hear “Start” the second time to indicate the test is done.  Use the Tab key as above to read your information.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kevin Chao
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 8:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible Internet Speed Test

 

https://fast.com/ from Netflix is what I use and find it to be clean and accessible

On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 2:20 PM Arlene <nedster66@...> wrote:

Hello, It does! It tells you your ip address and your provider. For example Concast. Or whatever you use.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kostadin Kolev
Sent: January-12-17 11:52 AM


To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible Internet Speed Test

 

Hello,

Actually, I think it gives you that information too: The name of your internet service provider and your IP address - they appear one after the other. Just read the information after the link labeled "Again" after the test is done. It starts with the name and location of the server used to do the testing (the end point) - they are links. After that is the name of your internet service provider and after that - your IP address. Then there is some sort of rating information. After that are the results of your internet speed test.

______
Best wishes,
Kostadin Kolev

 

На 12.1.2017 г. в 21:04, Brandon Keith Biggs написа:

Hello,

It worked great for me! Thank you!

I would like it if it gave more information like your IP address and whatnot as well, but currently I got all I needed.

Thanks,


 

On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 11:01 AM, Arlene <nedster66@...> wrote:

Hi there: Does this work for all internet isps?

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kostadin Kolev
Sent: January-12-17 10:16 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible Internet Speed Test

 

Hello,

Go to:

http://beta.speedtest.net

This is beta, but it is good enough. It is based on HTML5 technology, if I'm not mistaking. Find the link labeled "GO!" and activate it. The internet speed test will start. You'll be notified when it is completed and the results from it. But you can manually read the results on the page - find the link labeled "Again" and read the information after it - it contains the test results.

Note, that if you are using Firefox for the testing, NVDA may get a lot chatty during the test and repeat that the test is over 50% completed a lot of times. Use Internet Explorer to do the testing if you don't want to hear all that chattiness - it does not occur in it. Hmm, could this chattiness be a Firefox issue? Maybe we should report it?

______
Best wishes,
Kostadin Kolev

 

На 12.1.2017 г. в 19:15, Brandon Keith Biggs написа:

Hello,

Does anyone know of an accessible internet speed test? Most of the speed tests I have found only show speeds in a flash frame.

Thanks,

 

 

 
Re: Quick Survey

Bill Dengler
 

You will receive it if you’re selected, probably within the next few days.

Bill

On Jan 13, 2017, at 7:03 AM, nasrin khaksar <nasrinkhaksar3@...> wrote:

hi.
i completed your survey but i did not recieve your second survey in my
email address.

On 1/13/17, Bill Dengler <codeofdusk@...> wrote:
Hello,

If you're blind or visually impaired, please take this quick survey on
reading media. It's part of an internal assessment for my math class.
Thanks
in advance for your time!
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSenMpU1_la7wr3pq_OMIiFFiHhPTJTKYw22
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Re: NVDA problem with hashtag symbol

ChrisLeo
 

Can you try the regex below in the temporary dictionary?
If the regex works, you can add a globalPlugin that loads a dictionary with this regex:
Pattern: (#\w+?)(\d+#)

Replacement: \1\2

Select regular expression.

Its requires a bit more work, but enhances the usage:
1. Users don't have to edit builtin.dic every time NVDA updates.
2. You can choose to enable or disable the voice sounding.
This is just my tip.
cheers.





Chris.

Paolo Leva, 12/01/2017 11:56:
Re: OCR software?

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

I'll have a look at this. the issue I feel is that as in my specific query post further on, that you are not the providor of the pdf and the reluctance or lack of undersstanding by said producer of the pdf. It really does depend on how good the scan is of course and I have in that post suggested that if free ocr engines are not as good, some way to convert a pdf to tiff might allow a pro ocr you may already have to be used with perhaps better results but I could not find anything to do this.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Vogel" <britechguy@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 11:42 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] OCR software?


One of the things I'm having trouble understanding here is the context or contexts for the OCR processing being discussed:

* At the time of scanning an actual print document on a flatbed or feeder scanner.
* In an existing document, such as an image scanned PDF or an actual image itself that is known to be an image of a page of text.
* "On the fly" in something that's an image being presented in, say, a web browser that one would like to have read.

Virtually any relatively recent, and by that I do not mean new, scanner or multi-function machine will come with an OCR engine as part of its manufacturers software suite. Canon, HP, Kodak, and other multi-function machines I've worked with were all able to scan with OCR as part of the scan and, as it happened, their scanner control software was also accessible by screen reader. I've been using Canon's multi-functions for years now, and even the cheapest one (read: cost about $30 ten years ago) had a software suite included with it that featured OCR as an integral part of scanning if one identified what one was scanning as a document.

I've repeatedly mentioned that Tracker Software makes two excellent free pieces of software that, while not 100% accessible, are 100% accessible for doing OCR processing on image PDFs with a remarkable level of accuracy and that also feature free language packs if you're not scanning documents in English. See either PDF-XChange Viewer ( https://www.tracker-software.com/product/downloads/discontinued ) or PDF-XChange Editor ( https://www.tracker-software.com/product/downloads ) .

The "on the fly" instance is one where I don't know of anything off the top of my head.

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Specific ocr/nvda questions

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

Increasingly people are putting up pdf files which are just a scan of a letter. I have attempted to explain the accessibility way to do this to many organisations and individuals, but most seem to not understand the differences.
So I was wondering this. if its happening to me, it has to be happening to others, and as the internal add on for nvda to do ocr is really not up to the job, is there any way using an accessible piece of software to get this sort of file to be even semi accurately OCRed. I'm out of touch with the current systems and how accessible they are, having been used to just scanning the paper in and using the old Office tools or bespoke readers in paid for access software in the past.
For example if I got the latest Office does it have an accessible ocr as a tool like Office xp has, but one that can read pdfs or is the route to find a pdf to tif converter and then load it into the old conversion tool I already have?
Most of the so called solutions to this have been designed not for blind use but for those wanting to use bits of printed matter in their own files and tends to be very inaccessible.
Brian

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Re: whats new in 2017.1:

zahra
 

thanks quentin.
could you please explane me a brief discription of the new features?
what the changes and new features about in general?

On 1/13/17, Quentin Christensen <quentin@nvaccess.org> wrote:
Hi Nasrin,

2017.1 isn't out yet so there's no what's new just yet. If you are really
interested though, you are always welcome to try the snapshot builds. They
are mostly to test new features before they make it to the next stable
build. The "Master" builds can be considered beta quality - features
should mostly work but there might be bugs. The "Next" builds are alpha
quality - they have quite new code which may not have been tested much at
all and may produce unexpected results.

The snapshot builds are available from:
http://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/snapshots/



On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 5:47 PM, nasrin khaksar <nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com>
wrote:

hi joseph.
could you please send me whats new of 2017.1 in my email address?
thanks so much.

On 1/13/17, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,

So many under development at this time. There is a major showstopper in
latest Windows 10 preview builds that prevents certain features from
working
as advertised in newer Windows 10 builds.

Cheers,

Joseph



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Kenny
Peyattt jr.
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 4:41 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] whats new in 2017.1:



Hi I wonder what features will be in 2017.1?

Kenny Peyatt jr.



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Re: whats new in 2017.1:

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Nasrin,

2017.1 isn't out yet so there's no what's new just yet.  If you are really interested though, you are always welcome to try the snapshot builds.  They are mostly to test new features before they make it to the next stable build.  The "Master" builds can be considered beta quality - features should mostly work but there might be bugs.  The "Next" builds are alpha quality - they have quite new code which may not have been tested much at all and may produce unexpected results.

The snapshot builds are available from: http://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/snapshots/



On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 5:47 PM, nasrin khaksar <nasrinkhaksar3@...> wrote:
hi joseph.
could you please send me whats new of 2017.1 in my email address?
thanks so much.

On 1/13/17, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> So many under development at this time. There is a major showstopper in
> latest Windows 10 preview builds that prevents certain features from working
> as advertised in newer Windows 10 builds.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Joseph
>
>
>
> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kenny
> Peyattt jr.
> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 4:41 PM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: [nvda] whats new in 2017.1:
>
>
>
> Hi I wonder what features will be in 2017.1?
>
> Kenny Peyatt jr.
>
>
>
> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986>  for Windows
> 10
>
>
>
>
>
>


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Re: having problem to use one of Baum braille displays by NVDA

Arno Schuh
 

No chance! The Braille displays from Frank Audiodata came with its own driver and protokol.

Arno
Frank Audiodata no longer exists, and Baum didnt support the old hardware from Frank Audiodata. It's a pity!

Am Mittwoch, 11. Januar 2017 19:50 schrieb داریوش جوادی <dariush.javadi2000@gmail.com>:

hi, I am Dariush Javadi. I have a Baum braille display (Frank
Audio-Data bk2-40). I want to use it by NVDA, but NVDA doesn’t
support it. It's an old version of Baum braille displays and work by
Jaws properly. Also it support windows 32 bit and lower. help me
pleas. Thanks a lot.
Re: OCR software?

zahra
 

hi every one.
i also have a question.
how can i open my usual pdf files with firefox and convert them into txt format?
or even read them by firefox as pdf?
i realy appreciate your help.

On 1/13/17, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@gmail.com> wrote:
Oh, I don't have any intention of buying it. I was just wonderring if it
even still existed and was actively being still developed. It was more just
a question out of curiosity. Sorry for the confusion.

Chris.

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 10:25 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] OCR software?


Unless Text Cloner has improved considerably since I tested it many years
ago, it isn't nearly as accurate as something like Fine Reader. Anyone
considering purchasing it will, I hope do real comparisons of the Fine
Reader demo and Text Cloner.

Gene
----- Original Message -----


From: Christopher-Mark Gilland
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 9:19 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] OCR software?


Groovy. thanks for that.

Chris.

----- Original Message -----
From: David Goldfield
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 10:04 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] OCR software?


Here's the link for Text Cloner Pro.

http://www.premierathome.com/products/TextClonerPro-features.php


David Goldfield,
Assistive Technology Specialist

Feel free to visit my Web site
WWW.DavidGoldfield.InfoOn 1/12/2017 9:16 PM, David Tanner wrote:

Actually it is still around and is now called text Kleiner pro and the
price is $99 it's not too bad but it could be better.

David Tanner


From my iPhone 7

On Jan 12, 2017, at 7:05 PM, Life My Way via Groups.Io
<lifemyway=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:


from what i know it is still around




On 1/12/2017 5:58 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

I wonder if the software called "Text Cloner" is still around. For
what it was/did, that was a cool little program!

Chris.

----- Original Message -----
From: Brian Vogel
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 6:42 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] OCR software?


One of the things I'm having trouble understanding here is the
context or contexts for the OCR processing being discussed:

1.. At the time of scanning an actual print document on a
flatbed or feeder scanner.
2.. In an existing document, such as an image scanned PDF or
an actual image itself that is known to be an image of a page of text.
3.. "On the fly" in something that's an image being presented
in, say, a web browser that one would like to have read.
Virtually any relatively recent, and by that I do not mean new,
scanner or multi-function machine will come with an OCR engine as part of
its manufacturers software suite. Canon, HP, Kodak, and other
multi-function machines I've worked with were all able to scan with OCR as
part of the scan and, as it happened, their scanner control software was
also accessible by screen reader. I've been using Canon's multi-functions
for years now, and even the cheapest one (read: cost about $30 ten years
ago) had a software suite included with it that featured OCR as an integral
part of scanning if one identified what one was scanning as a document.

I've repeatedly mentioned that Tracker Software makes two
excellent free pieces of software that, while not 100% accessible, are 100%
accessible for doing OCR processing on image PDFs with a remarkable level of
accuracy and that also feature free language packs if you're not scanning
documents in English. See either PDF-XChange Viewer or PDF-XChange Editor.

The "on the fly" instance is one where I don't know of anything
off the top of my head.

--
Brian

He discloses the workings of a mind to which incoherence lends
an illusion of profundity.

~ T. De Vere White











--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org
Re: Quick Survey

zahra
 

hi.
i completed your survey but i did not recieve your second survey in my
email address.

On 1/13/17, Bill Dengler <codeofdusk@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello,

If you're blind or visually impaired, please take this quick survey on
reading media. It's part of an internal assessment for my math class.
Thanks
in advance for your time!
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSenMpU1_la7wr3pq_OMIiFFiHhPTJTKYw22
P0TBs0ww4kfp2w/viewform



Bill

--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org
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