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a voice add on question

Casey <cwollner@...>
 

Hi I hear there is A new vocalizer voice out there called nafon or nathon.
Can you get this for NVDA and if so does it cost and if not where do you go to purchase it or down load it?


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Re: NVDA And Bluetooth Speaker

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi Check under the synth settings in NVDa andchange it to the new one. the quickest way is nvda key + ctrl key + S.

Gene nz

On 6/01/2017 12:50 AM, Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT SERVICES) wrote:

Hi friends,

 

Running NVDA, latest version and have connected up a Bluetooth speaker to my laptop running the latest build of Microsoft Windows 10.

NVDA Speaks on the logon screen through the laptop speakers but after logon, stops talking.

It was talking through the Bluetooth speaker when switched on but if you turn that off, the sounds defaults back to the laptop for system sounds but NVDA doesn’t default back to the laptop.

If this makes any sense, has anyone had any similar issues or is there a way to select the default sound card for NVDA?

 



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Re: Driver Update

 

I agree.
Amd have a good driver detecter and updater and that updates everything they have.
Intel have a good one but yeah that one doesn't always work.
Some manufacturers if you know your model ie realtech hd will have drivers.
A small note at least for users.
When using the realtech driver updaters you will need sightling help for 1, the driver uninstall.
To finnish it and the start of the driver install because all sound dies.

On 6/01/2017 3:36 a.m., Brian Vogel wrote:
Here's another voice saying that driver update utilities are "the spawns of Satan." I cannot tell you how many machines I've had to fix because someone used one that was, in actuality, malware or even with "legitimate" ones broke perfectly functioning systems.

Windows Update does a very good job of updating drivers if needed. For the few things it does not update (or, on rare occasions, screws up) you are wise to go straight to the manufacturer's website and support pages for the device in question and download the driver from them (and only them).

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Re: NVDA crashed

 

The ms sound mapper is the right card to be honest, its fine as long as you don't need to switch to another card or have a default sound card or something that card is usually the windows default one which is only a problem if things are not connected right.

On 6/01/2017 7:11 a.m., Brian's Mail list account wrote:
I thought so until this morning when I updated to the new next snap and
all speech stopped. It looks to me like there is a new routine that is
processing the .ini file in the latest build, however what it seems to
have done is altered the sound card selected in windows 7 so it says
microsoft sound mapper not behringer speakers as I had. Now of course
since I was not expecting this to occur, I had not looked at the ini
file to see if it had corrupted, but certainly the sound was cut off as
the new version launched leving me to restart the machiene as all sound
unknown to me was being sent out to the default windows device not the
one selected and used by me previously. weird or what? Needless to say,
a reboot of the computer put things back, but the tell tale in the first
run after the update showed the .ini file had the wrong sound device
selected. I think they will need to watch this as it really should not
change anything in the .ini file until its checked in windows what is
being used.
brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Felix G."
<constantlyvariable@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2017 9:12 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA crashed


Hello,
it might have been the ini file, or the synthesizer crashed, in which
case
NVDA will be smart enough to use Espeak as fallback so as not to get the
user stranded in silence.
Kind regards,
Felix

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Jan. 2017 um 09:07 Uhr:

Sometimes the .ini file gets corrupted. I don't know hy though.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Don H" <lmddh50@comcast.net>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2017 12:37 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA crashed


Thanks that did it. Don't know why my choice of syn changed.

On 1/4/2017 6:18 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
Hi Don,

The Synthesizer dialog is where you can specify the synthesizer being
used. Press NVDA+CONTROL+S to open this dialog and select the
correct
synth.

After that, you can use NVDA+CONTROL+V to open the voice settings
dialog
to customise the chosen synth and change its voice behaviour.

Is that what you were after?

Regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 4:15 AM, Don H <lmddh50@comcast.net
<mailto:lmddh50@comcast.net>> wrote:

I had NVDA set to use access32 as my speech syn and it was
working
great. Today when I started NVDA I was back to the original
Espeak
voice. Not sure what happened but I forgot how to install the
access32 syn. It is a bit strange in that Access32 is still
in my
addon list and it shows as running. How do I reinstall
Access32 >> to
resolve this issue? I am running the latest version of NVDA on a
Win 10 system.
Thanks






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Re: NVDA And Bluetooth Speaker

 

I have had this before with a set of usb sets.
If the sound is not on the windows sound mapper nvda will not switch.
I have also had the thing where windows will just not switch back unless you switch it back to the internal card.
There are 2 ways to do this.
1. connect the device used, then switch via sounds in control panel the speakers back to where they need to be, in theory with the right drivers if you get the latest it should work but it doesn't always do that.
Next get a sightling to switch it back for you,.
The easiest way is to switch back to your default before you shut down.
I used to get quite anoyed when say my brother had the device set to his expensive headset and just didn't switch it back or muted the sound.
In some cases I could plug in a cheap crappy usb set and change it back, other times I had to search through his clutter, find and wear his expensive gear he has told me to never touch, and then change the sound back to where its supposed to be.
There used to be a program called quickmix that did this in the old windows but I am unsure if there is a program that you can save configs via hotkeys to switch to a certain card.
Ofcause it has happened that I need the computer and there are no sightlings in which case I need to regain the use by any means necessary.
This involves me putting my recovery disk in and doing a reformat to get the audio back so I can use the computer and after I install everything again I forget what I am doing.
Its a big issue with users when you use a public system and they take their stuff away or plug it in and leave it there.

On 6/01/2017 12:50 a.m., Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT SERVICES) wrote:
Hi friends,

Running NVDA, latest version and have connected up a Bluetooth speaker to my laptop running the latest build of Microsoft Windows 10.
NVDA Speaks on the logon screen through the laptop speakers but after logon, stops talking.
It was talking through the Bluetooth speaker when switched on but if you turn that off, the sounds defaults back to the laptop for system sounds but NVDA doesn't default back to the laptop.
If this makes any sense, has anyone had any similar issues or is there a way to select the default sound card for NVDA?



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Re: NVDA crashed

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

I thought so until this morning when I updated to the new next snap and all speech stopped. It looks to me like there is a new routine that is processing the .ini file in the latest build, however what it seems to have done is altered the sound card selected in windows 7 so it says microsoft sound mapper not behringer speakers as I had. Now of course since I was not expecting this to occur, I had not looked at the ini file to see if it had corrupted, but certainly the sound was cut off as the new version launched leving me to restart the machiene as all sound unknown to me was being sent out to the default windows device not the one selected and used by me previously. weird or what? Needless to say, a reboot of the computer put things back, but the tell tale in the first run after the update showed the .ini file had the wrong sound device selected. I think they will need to watch this as it really should not change anything in the .ini file until its checked in windows what is being used.
brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Felix G." <constantlyvariable@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2017 9:12 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA crashed


Hello,
it might have been the ini file, or the synthesizer crashed, in which case
NVDA will be smart enough to use Espeak as fallback so as not to get the
user stranded in silence.
Kind regards,
Felix

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@blueyonder.co.uk> schrieb am Do., 5.
Jan. 2017 um 09:07 Uhr:

Sometimes the .ini file gets corrupted. I don't know hy though.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Don H" <lmddh50@comcast.net>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2017 12:37 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA crashed


Thanks that did it. Don't know why my choice of syn changed.

On 1/4/2017 6:18 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
Hi Don,

The Synthesizer dialog is where you can specify the synthesizer being
used. Press NVDA+CONTROL+S to open this dialog and select the correct
synth.

After that, you can use NVDA+CONTROL+V to open the voice settings dialog
to customise the chosen synth and change its voice behaviour.

Is that what you were after?

Regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 4:15 AM, Don H <lmddh50@comcast.net
<mailto:lmddh50@comcast.net>> wrote:

I had NVDA set to use access32 as my speech syn and it was working
great. Today when I started NVDA I was back to the original Espeak
voice. Not sure what happened but I forgot how to install the
access32 syn. It is a bit strange in that Access32 is still in my
addon list and it shows as running. How do I reinstall Access32 to
resolve this issue? I am running the latest version of NVDA on a
Win 10 system.
Thanks






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Re: very, very strange problem

P. Otter
 


hi, i'm afraid that i now know the problem, i'm not sure but i think there is a problem in the driver file syncbraille.dll.
because there is also a problem with the other hims driver that comes with nvda.
that is for the hims smart beetle etc.
but there for i have already the driver that works fine.
but i don't know who i can send that driver (dll) so that they can merge that file in the following version of nvda.
but for the syncbraille i have'nt a good working .dll file.
but i think that's the problem.
after i remove the braille display the hims syncbraille the problem was solved.
perhaps you know where i can send the driver dll for the hims smart beetle the file is called HanSone Connect.dll
cheers
paul otter
      

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Sent: Thursday, January 5, 2017 12:15 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] very, very strange problem

Hi Paul,

NVDA should have created a log of the crash.  If you can copy that here it might help troubleshoot.  Steps for getting the log and information about what it contains can be found here on our GitHub page: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/wiki/LogFilesAndCrashDumps

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 9:15 PM, P. Otter <pam.otter@...> wrote:
hello all, a friend of mine gave me a braille display, it is a hims sync braille display.
it works fine, all is working properly, but when i want to restart nvda, my computer is crashing completely, it makes a reboot and nvda tells me that the configurationfile is damaged and nvda is back to vactory settings!
i've allso a hims smart beetle, but there was no problem when i try to restart nvda.
i don't know what is the reason that with the sync i can'nt restart nvda but with the smart beetle there is no problem.
and that while the hims sync braille is in the list of braille displays of nvda.
is there anybody who is using also the hims sync braille?
what can that be?
cheers
paul otter
 




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Re: sapi5? Re: [nvda] Support for enhanced accessibility in Kindle 1.19

Mallard
 

You're right... Italian voice are... CRAP! (I said it... I'm an old lady, I can afford saying nasty things... lol).


Thanks for the tip of pressint ctrl+t for Italian... I pressed Ctrl+r, and it didn't work...


I must try. No idea though as to sapi5 voices...

Hope someone can come up with something nicd along these lines.


Ciao,

Ollie

ps: Have you still got Drriik? I have Ozzie now; a young, wild yellow lab...

Il 05/01/2017 15:44, Simone Dal Maso ha scritto:
Hello, in particular to Ollie.
Ok, I installed Kindle 1.19 and the NVDA appropriate snapshot.
There are two things to say, a part of a great thank you for this work.

The first, I'm italian and Kindle installed on my pc with the italian interface and when I press ctrl-t for reading books with voice, it started with the italian synthesizer Elsa, that is the default on Windows10.
So, reading italian book is possible also!

The second thing is... can I change synthesizer?
Ok, I have NVDA and I can read books with it, but if the ebook haven't the advanced typesettings on, NVDA can't read it, instead Kindle read by itself.
I tried importing a pdf for example, and as expected, NVDA doesn't read the text, Kindle yes with the ctrl-t option.

But unfortunately in Italy Microsoft voices are ... ok, better don't say what they are, the problem is that I can't change the synthesizer to a sapi5.
Oh, you can change it for Narrator and works, but if you want to assing your default synthesizer of Windows to a Sapi5... no chance for me!

Some ideas?





Il 04/01/2017 15:22, Mallard ha scritto:
Hello Jamie and all,


This works great on my machine, running Windows 10 latest update and the
NVDA snapshot you recommended.


Pity the reading feature is only available for English, and other
languages were never added.


As a matter of fact, I could only install the Kindle for Pc with
Accessibility Plugin because you gave a link on the NV Access site.
Otherwise, for us outside the US, or maybe the UK, downloading the app
from Amazon is not allowed.


Anyway, this is a great step forward in NVDA development.

Again, thanks for the great job!

Ollie





Il 04/01/2017 01:40, James Teh ha scritto:
Hi all,

We're excited to announce that NVDA 2017.1 will support the enhanced
accessibility functionality available in Amazon Kindle for PC version
1.19. This enables users to read books in browse mode, work with notes
and highlighted text and much more. NVDA 2017.1 is expected to be
available in late February 2017, but a beta version of NVDA with
Kindle support is available for testing today. See this page for details:
http://www.nvaccess.org/kindle/
Try it out and tell us what you think!

Thanks!

Jamie





sapi5? Re: [nvda] Support for enhanced accessibility in Kindle 1.19

Simone Dal Maso
 

Hello, in particular to Ollie.
Ok, I installed Kindle 1.19 and the NVDA appropriate snapshot.
There are two things to say, a part of a great thank you for this work.

The first, I'm italian and Kindle installed on my pc with the italian interface and when I press ctrl-t for reading books with voice, it started with the italian synthesizer Elsa, that is the default on Windows10.
So, reading italian book is possible also!

The second thing is... can I change synthesizer?
Ok, I have NVDA and I can read books with it, but if the ebook haven't the advanced typesettings on, NVDA can't read it, instead Kindle read by itself.
I tried importing a pdf for example, and as expected, NVDA doesn't read the text, Kindle yes with the ctrl-t option.

But unfortunately in Italy Microsoft voices are ... ok, better don't say what they are, the problem is that I can't change the synthesizer to a sapi5.
Oh, you can change it for Narrator and works, but if you want to assing your default synthesizer of Windows to a Sapi5... no chance for me!

Some ideas?

Il 04/01/2017 15:22, Mallard ha scritto:
Hello Jamie and all,


This works great on my machine, running Windows 10 latest update and the
NVDA snapshot you recommended.


Pity the reading feature is only available for English, and other
languages were never added.


As a matter of fact, I could only install the Kindle for Pc with
Accessibility Plugin because you gave a link on the NV Access site.
Otherwise, for us outside the US, or maybe the UK, downloading the app
from Amazon is not allowed.


Anyway, this is a great step forward in NVDA development.

Again, thanks for the great job!

Ollie





Il 04/01/2017 01:40, James Teh ha scritto:
Hi all,

We're excited to announce that NVDA 2017.1 will support the enhanced
accessibility functionality available in Amazon Kindle for PC version
1.19. This enables users to read books in browse mode, work with notes
and highlighted text and much more. NVDA 2017.1 is expected to be
available in late February 2017, but a beta version of NVDA with
Kindle support is available for testing today. See this page for details:
http://www.nvaccess.org/kindle/
Try it out and tell us what you think!

Thanks!

Jamie


Re: Driver Update

 

Here's another voice saying that driver update utilities are "the spawns of Satan."   I cannot tell you how many machines I've had to fix because someone used one that was, in actuality, malware or even with "legitimate" ones broke perfectly functioning systems.

Windows Update does a very good job of updating drivers if needed.  For the few things it does not update (or, on rare occasions, screws up) you are wise to go straight to the manufacturer's website and support pages for the device in question and download the driver from them (and only them).

Brian


Re: Support for enhanced accessibility in Kindle 1.19

Christopher Bartlett
 

If I install this trial version, will I still automatically receive the master snapshot updates I currently receive?


On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 11:17 PM, Kwork <istherelife@...> wrote:
This is very very good news. Thank you so much!
Travis
----- Original Message -----
From: James Teh
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 5:40 PM
Subject: [nvda] Support for enhanced accessibility in Kindle 1.19

Hi all,

We're excited to announce that NVDA 2017.1 will support the enhanced accessibility functionality available in Amazon Kindle for PC version 1.19. This enables users to read books in browse mode, work with notes and highlighted text and much more. NVDA 2017.1 is expected to be available in late February 2017, but a beta version of NVDA with Kindle support is available for testing today. See this page for details:
http://www.nvaccess.org/kindle/
Try it out and tell us what you think!

Thanks!

Jamie




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Re: LibreOffice Writer Annoyances - The beginning

 

thanks every one for your help.
antony and carlos,
i remember that in 2014 or 2015, i tried wordgraph from the link which
i sent and i could not read my farsi documents with it.
i even could not write and navigate in my documents.
i am not sure about english,
but if you tried it and say that its not accessible and there is no
way to make it accessible,
i realy appreciate any of your help and help from others too.

On 1/5/17, Walmir Schultz via Groups.Io
<wsautodidata=yahoo.com.br@groups.io> wrote:
I started this thread and Agree that now its time to close it.

Note that it is about an "annoyance" with LibreOffice and NVDA and not
about commercial versus open source software.



Em 05/01/2017 07:30, Carlos escreveu:
Hello:

This thread should be closed at some point!

As the saying goes: "You can lead a horse to water; but! You can't
make him/her drink!"

You can only help those who are willing to accept advice and not
those who are so narrow minded that the advice being given never makes
sense to them in their way of thoughts!!!

So, can we please put this thread to bed!!!


On 1/5/2017 12:03 AM, nasrin khaksar wrote:
i think if there is no program to help me, i should revert to
openoffice or libreoffice.
i have many reasons, that cant use commercial programs and the
opensource projects are the best choice for me.
i realy believe in opensource programs and idiology and admire them.
if i were a programmer, for sure i contribute to opensource projects
like nvda.

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On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 07:24 pm, Antony Stone wrote:

Your choice, but you have to accept the consequences of that choice.
Would that this wise (and, one would think, obvious) counsel were
universally embraced where personal choice is involved.

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NVDA And Bluetooth Speaker

Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT SERVICES)
 

Hi friends,

 

Running NVDA, latest version and have connected up a Bluetooth speaker to my laptop running the latest build of Microsoft Windows 10.

NVDA Speaks on the logon screen through the laptop speakers but after logon, stops talking.

It was talking through the Bluetooth speaker when switched on but if you turn that off, the sounds defaults back to the laptop for system sounds but NVDA doesn’t default back to the laptop.

If this makes any sense, has anyone had any similar issues or is there a way to select the default sound card for NVDA?

 



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Re: Driver Update

Shaun Oliver
 

this is indeed correct. if you've just done a fresh install of windows or you really want updated drivers, going to the manufacturer's web site is the recommended course of action.



On 5/01/2017 20:00, Gene wrote:
I don't use such utilities and I don't have information about which ones are accessible.  However, I shall make general comments on the subject.  I wouldn't update any drivers except when a new driver has one or more features you want or does something meaningful such as improve performance, such as allow a scanner to run faster. 
 
If you want to find drivers because you are updating to a new version of Windows, my impression is, though I know little about this, that it's generally safer to go to the site of the product manufacturer and look for a driver there.  I believe that some or perhaps many update utilities supply drivers that contain malware.  I believe I saw comments from Brian stating this in the past.
Gene
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Subject: [nvda] Driver Update

Need accessible utility to search for driver updates which will run with NVDA

Andrea



Re: very, very strange problem

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Paul,

NVDA should have created a log of the crash.  If you can copy that here it might help troubleshoot.  Steps for getting the log and information about what it contains can be found here on our GitHub page: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/wiki/LogFilesAndCrashDumps

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 9:15 PM, P. Otter <pam.otter@...> wrote:
hello all, a friend of mine gave me a braille display, it is a hims sync braille display.
it works fine, all is working properly, but when i want to restart nvda, my computer is crashing completely, it makes a reboot and nvda tells me that the configurationfile is damaged and nvda is back to vactory settings!
i've allso a hims smart beetle, but there was no problem when i try to restart nvda.
i don't know what is the reason that with the sync i can'nt restart nvda but with the smart beetle there is no problem.
and that while the hims sync braille is in the list of braille displays of nvda.
is there anybody who is using also the hims sync braille?
what can that be?
cheers
paul otter
 




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Re: Driver Update

Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...>
 

I seem to remember a program literally called driver update which would do this very thing.

I'm sorry, but I cannot verbatim remember the exact name of the software. I think that was it though.

Chris.



Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 5, 2017, at 05:56, Ben J. Bloomgren <bbloomgren@...> wrote:

Hello Andrea and all,


In addition to what Jean said, driver updates can mean accessibility diminutions and other problems with the devices or software programs in question. I would update sparingly, as Jean indicated.


Ben


On 1/5/2017 2:16, Andrea Sherry wrote:

Need accessible utility to search for driver updates which will run with NVDA

Andrea



Re: LibreOffice Writer Annoyances - The beginning

Walmir Schultz <wsautodidata@...>
 

I started this thread and Agree that now its time to close it.

Note that it is about an "annoyance" with LibreOffice and NVDA and not about commercial versus open source software.



Em 05/01/2017 07:30, Carlos escreveu:

Hello:

This thread should be closed at some point!

As the saying goes: "You can lead a horse to water; but! You can't make him/her drink!"

You can only help those who are willing to accept advice and not those who are so narrow minded that the advice being given never makes sense to them in their way of thoughts!!!

So, can we please put this thread to bed!!!


On 1/5/2017 12:03 AM, nasrin khaksar wrote:
i think if there is no program to help me, i should revert to
openoffice or libreoffice.
i have many reasons, that cant use commercial programs and the
opensource projects are the best choice for me.
i realy believe in opensource programs and idiology and admire them.
if i were a programmer, for sure i contribute to opensource projects like nvda.

On 1/5/17, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 07:24 pm, Antony Stone wrote:

Your choice, but you have to accept the consequences of that choice.
Would that this wise (and, one would think, obvious) counsel were
universally embraced where personal choice is involved.

Brian


Re: Driver Update

Ben J. Bloomgren
 

Hello Andrea and all,


In addition to what Jean said, driver updates can mean accessibility diminutions and other problems with the devices or software programs in question. I would update sparingly, as Jean indicated.


Ben


On 1/5/2017 2:16, Andrea Sherry wrote:

Need accessible utility to search for driver updates which will run with NVDA

Andrea



Re: LibreOffice Writer Annoyances - The beginning

Walmir Schultz <wsautodidata@...>
 

I agree that we must choice the better tool, being it commercial or open source.

In relation to MS Office and LibreOffice, to my needs, LibreOffice is clearly the best choice (even the shortcuts are better and the tasks are done more rapidly so).

I was using LibreOffice with Windows Magnifier before my vision got worse without any problem. Issues arrived only when I was forced to use NVDA.



Em 05/01/2017 01:24, Antony Stone escreveu:

Wishing to use only Open Source software is a noble ideology, but sometimes
this means you're not using the best tool for the job. Your choice, but you
have to accept the consequences of that choice.

I can't imagine what the "many reasons" might be why you "can't buy commercial
software", other than the single reason of the price.


Antony.

On Thursday 05 January 2017 at 03:55:18, nasrin khaksar wrote:

but i only wish to use opensource products and cant buy commercial
softwares for many reasons.

On 1/4/17, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:
I wouldn't be too quick to accept what you were told as being generally
true. There is all sorts of misinformation on the Internet. We don't
know anything about this person's system. We don't know if there are
problems on it that the person doesn't know about.

I would consider the comments you are referring to as worth keeping in
mind but aI would draw no conclusions unless I got verification from a
number of other users. Then I would consider there to be a reasonable
chance that the statement is correct. otherwise, I would just consider
it to be a statement to keep in mind awaiting more information.

Also, you say that you don't want to pay for a program. I'm not asking
what you can afford. Your finances aren't my business. But I am saying
that if you can afford programs that are known to work but you don't get
them out of ideology, you are causing yourself problems for no reasons
other than ideology. I use the tools that work well. I don't use
programs based on whether they are open source. There is nothing
magical about open source programs. Unless there is a reason not to,
such as not being able to afford a program, I am a very strong believer
in using what meets my needs best.

Gene


very, very strange problem

P. Otter
 

hello all, a friend of mine gave me a braille display, it is a hims sync braille display.
it works fine, all is working properly, but when i want to restart nvda, my computer is crashing completely, it makes a reboot and nvda tells me that the configurationfile is damaged and nvda is back to vactory settings!
i've allso a hims smart beetle, but there was no problem when i try to restart nvda.
i don't know what is the reason that with the sync i can'nt restart nvda but with the smart beetle there is no problem.
and that while the hims sync braille is in the list of braille displays of nvda.
is there anybody who is using also the hims sync braille?
what can that be?
cheers
paul otter