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Re: control alt n no longer restarts nvda

brian <sackriderbrian45@...>
 

    Thanks that worked but it's slow it used to be quick but for some reason it takes a few seconds for it to work.

Brian Sackrider


On 4/13/2017 5:49 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

Hi, Brian,

 

To recreate your shortcute

 

  1. Find the icon for NVDA on your desktop.
  2. 2. Hit alt enter to go into properties.
  3. 3. Tab to the box that says something like “shortcut key none”.
  4. 4. Type alt control and the letter N together for the shortcut.
  5. 5. Tab to the ok button and either hit enter or the space bar. You should have the shortcut back again. I’m not having a problem on my machine.

Hope this helps.

 

Rosemarie

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: brian
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 2:40 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] control alt n no longer restarts nvda

 

     I just tried resetting nvda back to factory defaults but control

still does not work.

 

Brian Sackrider

 

 

On 4/13/2017 5:39 PM, Albert Ruel wrote:

> That's odd, I have had the new windows 10 update installed on my computer, and none of my Alt/control shortcut keys have been negatively impacted. NVDA starts very nicely with alt control plus the letter N.

> Thx, Albert

> Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 13, 2017, at 1:37 PM, brian <sackriderbrian45@...> wrote:

> I have noticed that after I got the creators update every time that I try to use control alt n it does not work.  I have to press n on my desk top to restart nvda has the command been changed?

> Brian Sackrider

>

 

 

 

 



Re: control alt n no longer restarts nvda

Arlene
 

Oh okay. sorry about that.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: April-13-17 2:54 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] control alt n no longer restarts nvda

 

Hi, Arleen,

 

I just gave him the steps for creating his shortcut.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Arlene
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 2:52 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] control alt n no longer restarts nvda

 

Hi, I think you just go to the icon on your desktop. Hit alt Enter and create your short cut there!

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: April-13-17 1:51 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] control alt n no longer restarts nvda

 

Just one of the wonders of Windows.  The short cut was evidently removed.  Do you know how to recreate it?

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: brian

Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 3:37 PM

Subject: [nvda] control alt n no longer restarts nvda

 

I have noticed that after I got the creators update every time that I
try to use control alt n it does not work.  I have to press n on my desk
top to restart nvda has the command been changed?

Brian Sackrider

 


Re: control alt n no longer restarts nvda

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, Arleen,

 

I just gave him the steps for creating his shortcut.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Arlene
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 2:52 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] control alt n no longer restarts nvda

 

Hi, I think you just go to the icon on your desktop. Hit alt Enter and create your short cut there!

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: April-13-17 1:51 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] control alt n no longer restarts nvda

 

Just one of the wonders of Windows.  The short cut was evidently removed.  Do you know how to recreate it?

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: brian

Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 3:37 PM

Subject: [nvda] control alt n no longer restarts nvda

 

I have noticed that after I got the creators update every time that I
try to use control alt n it does not work.  I have to press n on my desk
top to restart nvda has the command been changed?

Brian Sackrider

 


vocalizer tiflotechnia

Isaac <bigikemusic@...>
 

Hi, are they ever going to update the driver and voices?


Re: control alt n no longer restarts nvda

Arlene
 

Hi, I think you just go to the icon on your desktop. Hit alt Enter and create your short cut there!

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: April-13-17 1:51 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] control alt n no longer restarts nvda

 

Just one of the wonders of Windows.  The short cut was evidently removed.  Do you know how to recreate it?

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: brian

Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 3:37 PM

Subject: [nvda] control alt n no longer restarts nvda

 

I have noticed that after I got the creators update every time that I
try to use control alt n it does not work.  I have to press n on my desk
top to restart nvda has the command been changed?

Brian Sackrider



Re: control alt n no longer restarts nvda

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, Brian,

 

To recreate your shortcute

 

  1. Find the icon for NVDA on your desktop.
  2. 2. Hit alt enter to go into properties.
  3. 3. Tab to the box that says something like “shortcut key none”.
  4. 4. Type alt control and the letter N together for the shortcut.
  5. 5. Tab to the ok button and either hit enter or the space bar. You should have the shortcut back again. I’m not having a problem on my machine.

Hope this helps.

 

Rosemarie

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: brian
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 2:40 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] control alt n no longer restarts nvda

 

     I just tried resetting nvda back to factory defaults but control

still does not work.

 

Brian Sackrider

 

 

On 4/13/2017 5:39 PM, Albert Ruel wrote:

> That's odd, I have had the new windows 10 update installed on my computer, and none of my Alt/control shortcut keys have been negatively impacted. NVDA starts very nicely with alt control plus the letter N.

> Thx, Albert

> Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 13, 2017, at 1:37 PM, brian <sackriderbrian45@...> wrote:

> I have noticed that after I got the creators update every time that I try to use control alt n it does not work.  I have to press n on my desk top to restart nvda has the command been changed?

> Brian Sackrider

>

 

 

 

 


Re: control alt n no longer restarts nvda

brian <sackriderbrian45@...>
 

I just tried resetting nvda back to factory defaults but control still does not work.

Brian Sackrider

On 4/13/2017 5:39 PM, Albert Ruel wrote:
That's odd, I have had the new windows 10 update installed on my computer, and none of my Alt/control shortcut keys have been negatively impacted. NVDA starts very nicely with alt control plus the letter N.

Thx, Albert

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 13, 2017, at 1:37 PM, brian <sackriderbrian45@gmail.com> wrote:

I have noticed that after I got the creators update every time that I try to use control alt n it does not work. I have to press n on my desk top to restart nvda has the command been changed?

Brian Sackrider






Re: control alt n no longer restarts nvda

Albert Ruel
 

That's odd, I have had the new windows 10 update installed on my computer, and none of my Alt/control shortcut keys have been negatively impacted. NVDA starts very nicely with alt control plus the letter N.

Thx, Albert

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 13, 2017, at 1:37 PM, brian <sackriderbrian45@gmail.com> wrote:

I have noticed that after I got the creators update every time that I try to use control alt n it does not work. I have to press n on my desk top to restart nvda has the command been changed?

Brian Sackrider


Re: control alt n no longer restarts nvda

Gene
 

Just one of the wonders of Windows.  The short cut was evidently removed.  Do you know how to recreate it?
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: brian
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 3:37 PM
Subject: [nvda] control alt n no longer restarts nvda

I have noticed that after I got the creators update every time that I
try to use control alt n it does not work.  I have to press n on my desk
top to restart nvda has the command been changed?

Brian Sackrider




control alt n no longer restarts nvda

brian <sackriderbrian45@...>
 

I have noticed that after I got the creators update every time that I try to use control alt n it does not work. I have to press n on my desk top to restart nvda has the command been changed?

Brian Sackrider


Re: Edge in latest Win 10?

 

Hi,

Yes, almost there. NvDA 2017.2 will improve Edge support in numerous ways.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brandt Steenkamp
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 1:07 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Edge in latest Win 10?

 

Hi there folks,

 

Is Microsoft Edge usable in the latest Windows 10? I would love to be able to get rid of extraneous software on the PC.

 

Thanks so long.

 

--

 

Warm regards,

 

Brandt Steenkamp

 

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Phone: +27605259181

Email: Here

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Re: Edge in latest Win 10?

Gene
 

Are you saying you want to get rid of other browsers and which ones?  Even if it works reasonably, I doubt it works as well as Firefox or Chrome and I question if it has any advantages that matter.  Browsers are becoming increasingly alike and Firefox has attachments and one feature in particular that some blind people may find useful. 
 
As far as eliminating software, worry about that is overmanagement, in my opinion.  Programs don't take a lot of disk space and a few more or less means nothing.  Indeed, at times uninstalling programs causes problems.  It's often better to just leave programs on the machine, even if they are not going to be used.  I've read discussions on another list about people who uninstalled Microsoft Word only to have serious problems because the uninstallation removed a component necessary for NVDA to function.  I uninstalled a trial speechpackage for Eloquence and another voice and it uninstalled a component necessary for Eloquence in general to work.  I did a system restore to solve the problem.  I often uninstall programs if I know I'm not goint to use them but I don't have a concern about leaving them on the machine either and I never uninstall programs unless I know that I have a way to revert such as system restore that is on and that restore points are available. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 3:06 PM
Subject: [nvda] Edge in latest Win 10?

Hi there folks,


Is Microsoft Edge usable in the latest Windows 10? I would love to be able to get rid of extraneous software on the PC.


Thanks so long.


--

 

Warm regards,

 

Brandt Steenkamp

 

Sent from Thunderbird

 

Contact me:

 

Phone: +27605259181

Email: Here

Twitter: @brandtsteenkamp


Edge in latest Win 10?

Brandt Steenkamp <brandt.steenkamp@...>
 

Hi there folks,


Is Microsoft Edge usable in the latest Windows 10? I would love to be able to get rid of extraneous software on the PC.


Thanks so long.


--

 

Warm regards,

 

Brandt Steenkamp

 

Sent from Thunderbird

 

Contact me:

 

Phone: +27605259181

Email: Here

Twitter: @brandtsteenkamp


Re: a problem a friend is having after installing a windows update

Engin Albayrak <mealbayrak@...>
 

Hello.
this problem SOLVED by Creating a new user,. Using "netplwiz" command
through run dialog.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian's
Mail list account
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 8:32 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] a problem a friend is having after installing a windows
update

I don't think in Windows 10 that system restore is on by default
unfortunately.
I find it was a bit flakey on 10 anyway.
I'd be tempted to restore an old back up and try again. If its a major
update then it is usually possible to roll back to the old system. However
menues that do not read can be due to many rhings, often as simple as a DLL
used for accessibility not being registered with the system. Unfortunately
sfc /scannow seems not to rectify this problem when it happens.
I don't have access to ten as my machine blew up but in 7 a restore of an
old back up fixed it. Suspect? An update to an office product did the dirty
deed.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "enes saribas" <enes.saribas@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2017 1:34 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] a problem a friend is having after installing a windows
update


windows 10 1607


On 4/12/2017 1:27 AM, Stephen wrote:
is this with windows 7 or windows 10?

At 08:06 AM 4/12/2017, you wrote:
hi,

After installing the latest windows update, a friend of mine can no
longer read the windows+x menu and many other things. Nvda just says
unknown. SFC scannow has proven ineffective. Also, narrator doesn't
read said menus. Anyone have a solution to this?






Re: Upgrading to Win 10

John Hedges
 

The upgrade authentication for your valid Windows 8.1 key works for anyone. Have a copy of this 25 digit key for backup during the upgrade.

 

I would consider obtaining the Media Creation Tool to make an ISO for your x64 or x86 system. You can then mount/open it and run setup. It is pretty easy after that. Some programs may need removing before the upgrade, if flagged not compatible.

 

To run the new Narrator, use Ctrl+Window+Enter key combination. You will need that on the initial settings screens. NVDA 2017.1 runs pretty well with 1703, but update to 2017.2 when available.

 

John

 

From: Carlos
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 1:25 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Upgrading to Win 10

 

Hello All:

     I have Win 8.1 and my computer is qualified to run win 10.

     Is there a tutorial for blind users that will guide me through all
the steps necessary to have a nice quiet and pain free upgrading experience?

     NVDA is my main screen reader and as we all also have narrator
which I am not sure how well it might work on the upgrade?

     I will be doing the upgrade from the Microsoft accessibility
website which offers those upgrad to Win 10 for those who have assistive
technologies.

     Thank You! In advance for all your good advice and assistance!!!


--
Carlos Gonzalez - Los Angeles, CA. - gmjc341961@...





narator on creaors update

brian <sackriderbrian45@...>
 

I thought that I would let you all a couple of issues with narator on the creators update. First narator does not read the percentages when downloading in webie. Second narator does not read messages in thunderbird. When you go to your inbox and go in to a message and you press caps lock m narator just says not on explorable text. I called the microsoft dissibility line and reported theese 2 issues with narator. I was told that narator does not read programs outside of microsoft but they will pass on my feedback as They will have to write the scripts for more programs. I also ask them if they could make updates to work with screen readers to announce the updates as they come in.

Brian Sackrider

On 4/13/2017 1:25 PM, Carlos wrote:
Hello All:

I have Win 8.1 and my computer is qualified to run win 10.

Is there a tutorial for blind users that will guide me through all the steps necessary to have a nice quiet and pain free upgrading experience?

NVDA is my main screen reader and as we all also have narrator which I am not sure how well it might work on the upgrade?

I will be doing the upgrade from the Microsoft accessibility website which offers those upgrad to Win 10 for those who have assistive technologies.

Thank You! In advance for all your good advice and assistance!!!


Re: this NVDA error is driving me nuts!

Gene
 

There are very specific things, such as showing Cortana (spelling) results, that are done in Edge and Edge only.  There is no other restriction on what the default browser opens.  And there certainly isn't any behavior giving preference to Internet Explorer which is available but depricated.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 12:33 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] this NVDA error is driving me nuts!

I think Microsoft needs to offer counselling after some of the traumas it
puts its users through, personally..f grin. I thought he said it was Windows
1o, which has this strange way of allowing browsers to be default for some
bits but not others I notice. As if life were not complicated enough.
 Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Vogel" <britechguy@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 5:15 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] this NVDA error is driving me nuts!


What operating system and version of NVDA are you using, and that's for
starters. The web addresses that are giving the problems wouldn't hurt,
either.

You've not provided enough information for an error like this to give
guidance with any confidence.

--
*Brian*

* * *The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in the
right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.*

* ~ Dorothy Nevill*

**




Re: Email Client

Gene
 

That isn't correct.  Outlook Express has no spell checker and uses the Word spell checker.  Most e-mail programs do have spell checkers including Thunderbird and Windows Live Mail.  And in Outlook Express, beyond a certain version of Word, you can't use the Word spell checker in Outlook Express.  The last version where might have been Word 2003 or Word 2007 but the Word spell checker hasn't worked or worked properly with Outlook Express for years.
 
There are third party spell checkers you can use with Outlook Express.  I don't know how good they are.
 
Gene
----- Original Meessage ------

Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 12:22 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Email Client

If you do not have any microsoft office product installed you have no spell
hecker. Its another reason why I'm still using Outlook express.
 Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Chin" <peter.chinpk@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2017 8:43 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Email Client


I am using mainly Windows Live Mail and for the most part it works well.
However, I have not found a way to  enable the spellcheck facility.
Suggestions would be appreciated.

From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2017 11:14 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Email Client

I'm with everyone so far, but in different senses.

Thunderbird is indeed an excellent e-mail client overall and works
beautifully with NVDA and other screen readers.  One can teach basic use and
ignore all the bells and whistles not needed.  That being said, the less
sophisticated user can and often does get themselves into trouble by
fat-fingering something and triggering some function that they do not know
about, do not wish to trigger, and have no idea how to exit.  That is the
trouble with using a really full-featured e-mail client like Thunderbird.

I like Windows Live Mail 2012, and even though it's no longer officially
supported that is mostly because Microsoft decided to change their
proprietary access methods and did not wish to continue updating Windows
Live Mail.   It still serves perfectly well as a POP or IMAP e-mail client.
If you want to download a copy of the full offline installer for Microsoft
Essentials, of which Windows Live Mail is a part, it's on my Google Drive in
7-Zip format here.  I snagged a copy of the offline installer a couple of
weeks before Microsoft withdrew active support.

I have recently learned of another fairly simple email client, eM Client,
that looks quite good but I have not had a chance yet to evaluate it from an
accessibility standpoint.  The interface seems to be simpler than
Thunderbird's is, and that can be critical.   If you do evaluate this client
for accessibility please report back.
--
Brian

     The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in the
right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.

            ~ Dorothy Nevill








Re: this NVDA error is driving me nuts!

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

I think Microsoft needs to offer counselling after some of the traumas it puts its users through, personally..f grin. I thought he said it was Windows 1o, which has this strange way of allowing browsers to be default for some bits but not others I notice. As if life were not complicated enough.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Vogel" <britechguy@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 5:15 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] this NVDA error is driving me nuts!


What operating system and version of NVDA are you using, and that's for starters. The web addresses that are giving the problems wouldn't hurt, either.

You've not provided enough information for an error like this to give guidance with any confidence.

--
*Brian*

* * *The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in the right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.*

* ~ Dorothy Nevill*

**


Re: a problem a friend is having after installing a windows update

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

I don't think in Windows 10 that system restore is on by default unfortunately.
I find it was a bit flakey on 10 anyway.
I'd be tempted to restore an old back up and try again. If its a major update then it is usually possible to roll back to the old system. However menues that do not read can be due to many rhings, often as simple as a DLL used for accessibility not being registered with the system. Unfortunately sfc /scannow seems not to rectify this problem when it happens.
I don't have access to ten as my machine blew up but in 7 a restore of an old back up fixed it. Suspect? An update to an office product did the dirty deed.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "enes saribas" <enes.saribas@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2017 1:34 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] a problem a friend is having after installing a windows update


windows 10 1607


On 4/12/2017 1:27 AM, Stephen wrote:
is this with windows 7 or windows 10?

At 08:06 AM 4/12/2017, you wrote:
hi,

After installing the latest windows update, a friend of mine can no longer read the windows+x menu and many other things. Nvda just says unknown. SFC scannow has proven ineffective. Also, narrator doesn't read said menus. Anyone have a solution to this?