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Re: nvda 2017.2 rc1

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Yes using certain other words then a colon also work if memory serves me correctly.
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From: "Kwork" <istherelife@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 4:51 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda 2017.2 rc1


In case people don't know, a good way to search google on a specific website is to put "site:" without the quotes at the beginning of the search phrase. That is the word site followed by a colon. For instance:
site:nvaccess.org
After that, put in a term you're searching for, such as extra voices. This tells Google to search only that particular website for what you want. No need for writing http, https, or www first after the colon to use Google's website search. For a site, such as the NVAccess one, it's more efficient in some cases than trying to navigate the NVDA site itself.
Travis
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From: Gene
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 1:45 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda 2017.2 rc1


The site in general isn't organized well. When I want to find something such as add ons, I use Google to search for something like NVDA add ons or for voices, I use Google to search for NVDA voices. The home page should be organized so that it's obvious how to get to different areas of interest, support, community features such as user e-mail lists, add ons, tutorials, etc.

Gene
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From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 1:25 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda 2017.2 rc1


The main download page for NVDA 2017.rc2 is: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2017-2rc1-released/

The direct download link, which is on that page, is: https://www.nvaccess.org/download?nvdaVersion=2017.2rc1

NVAccess should make these pages easier to find. I had to use a web search engine to get to it. The downloads page has nada with regard to the next release candidate and it's quite conventional to have sections for the latest stable build along with any release candidates and/or betas you'd like people to test, or at least a direct link to where these are located.
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Re: nvda 2017.2 rc1

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, Travis,

 

Thanks very much for this great tip. I'll remember that if I need to do a google search on a specific site.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kwork
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 8:51 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda 2017.2 rc1

 

In case people don't know, a good way to search google on a specific website is to put "site:" without the quotes at the beginning of the search phrase. That is the word site followed by a colon. For instance:

site:nvaccess.org

After that, put in a term you're searching for, such as extra voices. This tells Google to search only that particular website for what you want. No need for writing http, https, or www first after the colon to use Google's website search. For a site, such as the NVAccess one, it's more efficient in some cases than trying to navigate the NVDA site itself.

Travis

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From: Gene

Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 1:45 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda 2017.2 rc1

 

The site in general isn't organized well.  When I want to find something such as add ons, I use Google to search for something like NVDA add ons or for voices, I use Google to search for NVDA voices.  The home page should be organized so that it's obvious how to get to different areas of interest, support, community features such as user e-mail lists, add ons, tutorials, etc. 

 

Gene

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Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 1:25 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda 2017.2 rc1

 

The main download page for NVDA 2017.rc2 is:  https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2017-2rc1-released/

The direct download link, which is on that page, is:  https://www.nvaccess.org/download?nvdaVersion=2017.2rc1 

NVAccess should make these pages easier to find.  I had to use a web search engine to get to it.  The downloads page has nada with regard to the next release candidate and it's quite conventional to have sections for the latest stable build along with any release candidates and/or betas you'd like people to test, or at least a direct link to where these are located.
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Re: What mistake am I making, if any?

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, Brian,

 

It's possible that you ould have uncovered a bug. I'll try to replicate the problem a little later on and let you all know what I find.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 9:00 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] What mistake am I making, if any?

 

Hello All,

          First, go to the webpage:  https://new.doortodoororganics.com/ 

          On that page is a link, "Log In."   If I do a regular text search under the Chrome web browser for "log in" (I skip the caps and don't use case sensitivity) it shoots right to it.  By contrast, if I do an NVDA search via NVDA+CTRL+F, I get a not found.

           Now that I've switched over to this tab to create this message to create this message I can't even seem to invoke NVDA Find anywhere.  When I try it's saying "unknown" and the regular search box in Chrome is coming up.

            I am not certain if I've somehow uncovered a bug in 2017.2rc1 or if I'm screwing something up somehow.  I would really appreciate it if anyone could attempt to replicate this situation (in its entirety, if possible).   If you can't get NVDA Find to find the log in link (note, that's two words for log in) then shoot yourself over to some other web page in a different tab, preferably one with a text edit box on it that you interact with, then see if you can invoke NVDA find at all.

            I can't, at least for a while, I was just able to get it working again after doing a couple of intentional flip-flops between browse and focus mode while entering this message here on the Groups.io website.  Also, the Focus Highlight add-on seems to be having some significant difficulties in terms of which frames are being used around objects.  Like just now I have the blue dashed and green with squiggle square popping up around this edit box at the same time.  Other times it seems to have browse and focus modes wrong.

            As a final note, even after I've revived the ability to get NVDA find/search to come up again it still does not find "Log in" when I search on the webpage mentioned at the start of this message.
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RC1

Don H
 

I already have the RC1 update installed yet when I start NVDA it asks me if I want to install it . What is causing this?
Thanks


What mistake am I making, if any?

 

Hello All,

          First, go to the webpage:  https://new.doortodoororganics.com/ 

          On that page is a link, "Log In."   If I do a regular text search under the Chrome web browser for "log in" (I skip the caps and don't use case sensitivity) it shoots right to it.  By contrast, if I do an NVDA search via NVDA+CTRL+F, I get a not found.

           Now that I've switched over to this tab to create this message to create this message I can't even seem to invoke NVDA Find anywhere.  When I try it's saying "unknown" and the regular search box in Chrome is coming up.

            I am not certain if I've somehow uncovered a bug in 2017.2rc1 or if I'm screwing something up somehow.  I would really appreciate it if anyone could attempt to replicate this situation (in its entirety, if possible).   If you can't get NVDA Find to find the log in link (note, that's two words for log in) then shoot yourself over to some other web page in a different tab, preferably one with a text edit box on it that you interact with, then see if you can invoke NVDA find at all.

            I can't, at least for a while, I was just able to get it working again after doing a couple of intentional flip-flops between browse and focus mode while entering this message here on the Groups.io website.  Also, the Focus Highlight add-on seems to be having some significant difficulties in terms of which frames are being used around objects.  Like just now I have the blue dashed and green with squiggle square popping up around this edit box at the same time.  Other times it seems to have browse and focus modes wrong.

            As a final note, even after I've revived the ability to get NVDA find/search to come up again it still does not find "Log in" when I search on the webpage mentioned at the start of this message.
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Re: nvda 2017.2 rc1

Kwork
 


In case people don't know, a good way to search google on a specific website is to put "site:" without the quotes at the beginning of the search phrase. That is the word site followed by a colon. For instance:
site:nvaccess.org
After that, put in a term you're searching for, such as extra voices. This tells Google to search only that particular website for what you want. No need for writing http, https, or www first after the colon to use Google's website search. For a site, such as the NVAccess one, it's more efficient in some cases than trying to navigate the NVDA site itself.
Travis

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 1:45 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda 2017.2 rc1

The site in general isn't organized well.  When I want to find something such as add ons, I use Google to search for something like NVDA add ons or for voices, I use Google to search for NVDA voices.  The home page should be organized so that it's obvious how to get to different areas of interest, support, community features such as user e-mail lists, add ons, tutorials, etc. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 1:25 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda 2017.2 rc1

The main download page for NVDA 2017.rc2 is:  https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2017-2rc1-released/

The direct download link, which is on that page, is:  https://www.nvaccess.org/download?nvdaVersion=2017.2rc1 

NVAccess should make these pages easier to find.  I had to use a web search engine to get to it.  The downloads page has nada with regard to the next release candidate and it's quite conventional to have sections for the latest stable build along with any release candidates and/or betas you'd like people to test, or at least a direct link to where these are located.
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Re: NVDA tutorials posted to Accessibilitycentral.net

Brennen Kinch
 

hi is the on-demand thing available in the US or just New Zealand

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Hi guys

PAGES RECENTLY UPDATED: Updated how to navigate the TVNZ On Demand
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use the VLC media player with the NVDA screen reader.


Gene NZ


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Re: working with tables in microsoft word

Angelo Sonnesso
 

I forgot I meant NVDA + shift+ S.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene New Zealand
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 4:53 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] working with tables in microsoft word

 

Hi

 

the answer is no.

 

The NVDA key + the letter S toggles between speech mode off, speech mode beep and speech mode talk.

 

 

Not sure if there is a ticket for it but the work around will do the same.

 

gene nz

 

 

On 23/05/2017 2:26 AM, Angelo Sonnesso wrote:

If you select a row, or column, could you use NVDA + S to read the selection?  

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene New Zealand
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 5:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] working with tables in microsoft word

 

Hi

 

Not sure if this will work in word but know it works in excel.  What is written is from Quenton.

 

below is the message.

 

There isn't a direct command, but a workaround is:
1. Press SHIFT+SPACEBAR to select the row
2. Press control+c to copy it to the clipboard
3. Press NVDA+c to read the clipboard
This will read the whole row as one block of text.  Note that it will overwrite anything you already had on the clipboard.  It also reads the values of cells, not formulas.  If you want formulas read, press control+` (control+grav) to toggle between showing values and formulas before copying the row.
Similarly, if you want to read the column, press control+spacebar instead of shift+spacebar at step 1.

 

Gene nz

 

 

On 19/05/2017 9:42 PM, Angelo Sonnesso wrote:

Is there a way to read the entire row, or column with NVDA?

 

73 N2DYN Angelo

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 5:19 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] working with tables in microsoft word

 

Enes,

           Yes, but I was sticking with NVDA terminology.  Browse versus focus modes.   JAWS uses Browse versus Forms modes.  Focus/Forms mode is where you can do data entry and/or editing in the cell/edit box/other object that accepts text input that you find yourself in.
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Re: A short overview of what's new, changed, and removed in NVDA 2017.2

Alexander Masic
 

Hi. Just sit here and play with Edge. And I'M sorry to say that i still find it quite slow when working with NVDA. And also when i went in to Facebook, the brailledisplay for some reason diden't follow.


And i also as a quite new NVDA-user with braille, would like to see some improvement. I simply would like to se more customize option. E.G some options were i can turn off were it stay LNKH1 and stuff like that. and just have the contents wich i work with.

That would be good for me as a combined braille and speachsyntersizer user.

   



Den 2017-05-23 kl. 13:40, skrev Gerardo Corripio:

Exactly what does this mean that NVDA will do? Here's the text • When issuing read current line command three times, the synthesizer in use will apply currently using language to read text, as well as use character descriptions for characters for certain languages.


El 23/05/2017 a las 02:59 a.m., Joseph Lee escribió:

Dear NVDA community,

 

As some of you are testing NVDA 2017.2 release candidate, I’d like to take a moment to give you an overview of things added, changed, and removed in the upcoming version. Because entries in “what’s new” document might sound a bit technical for many, I decided to write a release notes style post, similar to notes for releases of other screen readers and products.

 

What’s new in NVDA 2017.2

 

Highlights: Aria-current support, return of full audio ducking feature in Windows 10 Creators Update, faster response in Edge when navigating by line, UI Automation support improvements, more Unicode symbols added, some deprecated code removed.

 

Aria-current

Aria-current is a way to markup current step, page, time, date and others on a webpage. For example, when navigating some pages such as Mobile Facebook page, you may encounter phrases such as “current page” or “current time”. NVDA can now detect and announce these attributes when you encounter them.

 

More Unicode symbols added

NVDA can now announce more Unicode symbols such as fractions such as one-fifths, one-tenth and others.

 

Significant improvements for Edge

Previously, if you were reading multilingual documents in Edge and configured NVDA to switch languages on the fly, NVDA could not switch languages. This has been fixed. Also, NVDA will respond faster (up to three times faster) when navigating by line in Edge. Lastly, various improvements were added to support Edge better in Windows 10 Creators Update.

 

Audio ducking makes a full return in Windows 10 Creators Update

In NVDA 2017.1, the “always duck” option was removed when using Windows 10 Creators Update. This option is back in 2017.2.

 

Deprecated code removed

Various code included in earlier versions of NVDA, such as speech.REASON_ constants and deprecated configuration management functions were removed.

 

Other enhancements

  • NVDA will no longer prevent you from navigating to certain objects where shortcut keys were not defined.
  • Two empty spaces are no longer added when displaying keyboard shortcuts for UI Automation controls.
  • When issuing read current line command three times, the synthesizer in use will apply currently using language to read text, as well as use character descriptions for characters for certain languages.
  • Windows Calculator that ships with Windows Server 2016 and Windows 10 Enterprise LTSB are supported.
  • NVDA will skip UIA controls marked as layout when performing object navigation with simple review mode turned on.
  • Menu items on various websites can be activated in browse mode.
  • Various selection issues in browse mode were fixed, including an issue where select all would not work if the browse mode cursor is located on positions other than start of a page.
  • Burmese is now a supported language, bringing translations to 51 languages.
  • Added basic unit testing framework.

 

Sneak preview of features under active testing

Note that features below may change as time progresses, and are based on features being tested by alpha snapshot users.

  • Windows OneCore voices (Windows 10 only): you can now use Windows OneCore (aka SAPI Mobile) voices directly from NVDA without use of an add-on (listen to various NVDACon 2017 sessions for a sample).
  • Search suggestion sounds (Windows 10 and possibly other places): when you type text into edit fields that display search suggestions, you’ll hear a sound when suggestions appear. You can turn this off from Object Presentation dialog. This means you won’t need Windows 10 App Essentials add-on to use this functionality. Listen to NVDACon 2017’s Windows 10 and universal apps with screen readers session for more details (audio to be made available soon).
  • Many other small improvements under the hood.

 

Thanks.

Cheers,

Joseph


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Re: A short overview of what's new, changed, and removed in NVDA 2017.2

Gerardo Corripio
 

Exactly what does this mean that NVDA will do? Here's the text • When issuing read current line command three times, the synthesizer in use will apply currently using language to read text, as well as use character descriptions for characters for certain languages.


El 23/05/2017 a las 02:59 a.m., Joseph Lee escribió:

Dear NVDA community,

 

As some of you are testing NVDA 2017.2 release candidate, I’d like to take a moment to give you an overview of things added, changed, and removed in the upcoming version. Because entries in “what’s new” document might sound a bit technical for many, I decided to write a release notes style post, similar to notes for releases of other screen readers and products.

 

What’s new in NVDA 2017.2

 

Highlights: Aria-current support, return of full audio ducking feature in Windows 10 Creators Update, faster response in Edge when navigating by line, UI Automation support improvements, more Unicode symbols added, some deprecated code removed.

 

Aria-current

Aria-current is a way to markup current step, page, time, date and others on a webpage. For example, when navigating some pages such as Mobile Facebook page, you may encounter phrases such as “current page” or “current time”. NVDA can now detect and announce these attributes when you encounter them.

 

More Unicode symbols added

NVDA can now announce more Unicode symbols such as fractions such as one-fifths, one-tenth and others.

 

Significant improvements for Edge

Previously, if you were reading multilingual documents in Edge and configured NVDA to switch languages on the fly, NVDA could not switch languages. This has been fixed. Also, NVDA will respond faster (up to three times faster) when navigating by line in Edge. Lastly, various improvements were added to support Edge better in Windows 10 Creators Update.

 

Audio ducking makes a full return in Windows 10 Creators Update

In NVDA 2017.1, the “always duck” option was removed when using Windows 10 Creators Update. This option is back in 2017.2.

 

Deprecated code removed

Various code included in earlier versions of NVDA, such as speech.REASON_ constants and deprecated configuration management functions were removed.

 

Other enhancements

  • NVDA will no longer prevent you from navigating to certain objects where shortcut keys were not defined.
  • Two empty spaces are no longer added when displaying keyboard shortcuts for UI Automation controls.
  • When issuing read current line command three times, the synthesizer in use will apply currently using language to read text, as well as use character descriptions for characters for certain languages.
  • Windows Calculator that ships with Windows Server 2016 and Windows 10 Enterprise LTSB are supported.
  • NVDA will skip UIA controls marked as layout when performing object navigation with simple review mode turned on.
  • Menu items on various websites can be activated in browse mode.
  • Various selection issues in browse mode were fixed, including an issue where select all would not work if the browse mode cursor is located on positions other than start of a page.
  • Burmese is now a supported language, bringing translations to 51 languages.
  • Added basic unit testing framework.

 

Sneak preview of features under active testing

Note that features below may change as time progresses, and are based on features being tested by alpha snapshot users.

  • Windows OneCore voices (Windows 10 only): you can now use Windows OneCore (aka SAPI Mobile) voices directly from NVDA without use of an add-on (listen to various NVDACon 2017 sessions for a sample).
  • Search suggestion sounds (Windows 10 and possibly other places): when you type text into edit fields that display search suggestions, you’ll hear a sound when suggestions appear. You can turn this off from Object Presentation dialog. This means you won’t need Windows 10 App Essentials add-on to use this functionality. Listen to NVDACon 2017’s Windows 10 and universal apps with screen readers session for more details (audio to be made available soon).
  • Many other small improvements under the hood.

 

Thanks.

Cheers,

Joseph


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NVDA tutorials posted to Accessibilitycentral.net

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi guys

PAGES RECENTLY UPDATED: Updated how to navigate the TVNZ On Demand
service with NVDA (a link off the NVDA tutorials for other programs
page); NEW: How to set up a Dropbox account with the NVDA screen reader
(NVDA tutorials for other programs page
http://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20for%20ot… ). How to
use the VLC media player with the NVDA screen reader.


Gene NZ


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facebook by visiting
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Re: A short overview of what's new, changed, and removed in NVDA 2017.2

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No cos it also happened in emails even in outlook express, but was fixed in the master a little while back. I never twwigged to the way it was affected by cursor or focus position until somebody else noted it so that spaces for some reason confused the routine big time.
Brian

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From: "Damien Sykes-Lindley" <damien@dcpendleton.plus.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 10:10 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] A short overview of what's new, changed, and removed in NVDA 2017.2


Hi there,

“Various selection issues in browse mode were fixed, including an issue where select all would not work if the browse mode cursor is located on positions other than start of a page.”

Wow...And I thought that was a possible Firefox issue the whole time! Glad to see that’s been fixed.
Cheers.
Damien.


From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 8:59 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] A short overview of what's new, changed, and removed in NVDA 2017.2

Dear NVDA community,



As some of you are testing NVDA 2017.2 release candidate, I’d like to take a moment to give you an overview of things added, changed, and removed in the upcoming version. Because entries in “what’s new” document might sound a bit technical for many, I decided to write a release notes style post, similar to notes for releases of other screen readers and products.



What’s new in NVDA 2017.2



Highlights: Aria-current support, return of full audio ducking feature in Windows 10 Creators Update, faster response in Edge when navigating by line, UI Automation support improvements, more Unicode symbols added, some deprecated code removed.



Aria-current

Aria-current is a way to markup current step, page, time, date and others on a webpage. For example, when navigating some pages such as Mobile Facebook page, you may encounter phrases such as “current page” or “current time”. NVDA can now detect and announce these attributes when you encounter them.



More Unicode symbols added

NVDA can now announce more Unicode symbols such as fractions such as one-fifths, one-tenth and others.



Significant improvements for Edge

Previously, if you were reading multilingual documents in Edge and configured NVDA to switch languages on the fly, NVDA could not switch languages. This has been fixed. Also, NVDA will respond faster (up to three times faster) when navigating by line in Edge. Lastly, various improvements were added to support Edge better in Windows 10 Creators Update.



Audio ducking makes a full return in Windows 10 Creators Update

In NVDA 2017.1, the “always duck” option was removed when using Windows 10 Creators Update. This option is back in 2017.2.



Deprecated code removed

Various code included in earlier versions of NVDA, such as speech.REASON_ constants and deprecated configuration management functions were removed.



Other enhancements

a.. NVDA will no longer prevent you from navigating to certain objects where shortcut keys were not defined.
b.. Two empty spaces are no longer added when displaying keyboard shortcuts for UI Automation controls.
c.. When issuing read current line command three times, the synthesizer in use will apply currently using language to read text, as well as use character descriptions for characters for certain languages.
d.. Windows Calculator that ships with Windows Server 2016 and Windows 10 Enterprise LTSB are supported.
e.. NVDA will skip UIA controls marked as layout when performing object navigation with simple review mode turned on.
f.. Menu items on various websites can be activated in browse mode.
g.. Various selection issues in browse mode were fixed, including an issue where select all would not work if the browse mode cursor is located on positions other than start of a page.
h.. Burmese is now a supported language, bringing translations to 51 languages.
i.. Added basic unit testing framework.


Sneak preview of features under active testing

Note that features below may change as time progresses, and are based on features being tested by alpha snapshot users.

a.. Windows OneCore voices (Windows 10 only): you can now use Windows OneCore (aka SAPI Mobile) voices directly from NVDA without use of an add-on (listen to various NVDACon 2017 sessions for a sample).
b.. Search suggestion sounds (Windows 10 and possibly other places): when you type text into edit fields that display search suggestions, you’ll hear a sound when suggestions appear. You can turn this off from Object Presentation dialog. This means you won’t need Windows 10 App Essentials add-on to use this functionality. Listen to NVDACon 2017’s Windows 10 and universal apps with screen readers session for more details (audio to be made available soon).
c.. Many other small improvements under the hood.


Thanks.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: A short overview of what's new, changed, and removed in NVDA 2017.2

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

Although glad to have windows 10 upgrades, I have noticed that generally older operating systems seem also to be working a little faster in places. Hard to define exactly of course as it tends to show up as less lag when rbringing up dialogues etc.



Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 8:59 AM
Subject: [nvda] A short overview of what's new, changed, and removed in NVDA 2017.2


Dear NVDA community,



As some of you are testing NVDA 2017.2 release candidate, I'd like to take a
moment to give you an overview of things added, changed, and removed in the
upcoming version. Because entries in "what's new" document might sound a bit
technical for many, I decided to write a release notes style post, similar
to notes for releases of other screen readers and products.



What's new in NVDA 2017.2



Highlights: Aria-current support, return of full audio ducking feature in
Windows 10 Creators Update, faster response in Edge when navigating by line,
UI Automation support improvements, more Unicode symbols added, some
deprecated code removed.



Aria-current

Aria-current is a way to markup current step, page, time, date and others on
a webpage. For example, when navigating some pages such as Mobile Facebook
page, you may encounter phrases such as "current page" or "current time".
NVDA can now detect and announce these attributes when you encounter them.



More Unicode symbols added

NVDA can now announce more Unicode symbols such as fractions such as
one-fifths, one-tenth and others.



Significant improvements for Edge

Previously, if you were reading multilingual documents in Edge and
configured NVDA to switch languages on the fly, NVDA could not switch
languages. This has been fixed. Also, NVDA will respond faster (up to three
times faster) when navigating by line in Edge. Lastly, various improvements
were added to support Edge better in Windows 10 Creators Update.



Audio ducking makes a full return in Windows 10 Creators Update

In NVDA 2017.1, the "always duck" option was removed when using Windows 10
Creators Update. This option is back in 2017.2.



Deprecated code removed

Various code included in earlier versions of NVDA, such as speech.REASON_
constants and deprecated configuration management functions were removed.



Other enhancements

* NVDA will no longer prevent you from navigating to certain objects
where shortcut keys were not defined.
* Two empty spaces are no longer added when displaying keyboard
shortcuts for UI Automation controls.
* When issuing read current line command three times, the synthesizer
in use will apply currently using language to read text, as well as use
character descriptions for characters for certain languages.
* Windows Calculator that ships with Windows Server 2016 and Windows
10 Enterprise LTSB are supported.
* NVDA will skip UIA controls marked as layout when performing object
navigation with simple review mode turned on.
* Menu items on various websites can be activated in browse mode.
* Various selection issues in browse mode were fixed, including an
issue where select all would not work if the browse mode cursor is located
on positions other than start of a page.
* Burmese is now a supported language, bringing translations to 51
languages.
* Added basic unit testing framework.



Sneak preview of features under active testing

Note that features below may change as time progresses, and are based on
features being tested by alpha snapshot users.

* Windows OneCore voices (Windows 10 only): you can now use Windows
OneCore (aka SAPI Mobile) voices directly from NVDA without use of an add-on
(listen to various NVDACon 2017 sessions for a sample).
* Search suggestion sounds (Windows 10 and possibly other places):
when you type text into edit fields that display search suggestions, you'll
hear a sound when suggestions appear. You can turn this off from Object
Presentation dialog. This means you won't need Windows 10 App Essentials
add-on to use this functionality. Listen to NVDACon 2017's Windows 10 and
universal apps with screen readers session for more details (audio to be
made available soon).
* Many other small improvements under the hood.



Thanks.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: The latest rc1 download clarification

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

I hhave no links to emails. I use ofline email.
Brian

bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lenron" <lenron93@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 8:53 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] The latest rc1 download clarification


Would you happen to have the link to the email. I need to grab it from?

On 5/23/17, Brian's Mail list account <bglists@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

Basically its certainly working.
When you click the link in the email you go to the blog post which
describes the changes and has a link to the normal download site.
This then presents you with an option to donate, If you select not this
time there, ust below the donate options, you just enter your email chooses

if you want email updates then the download link is active and it works fine

from there. its exactly the same as with the full version
.
They like to track downloads for data purposes,which is why they ask for
the email and do not promote downloads from the snapshot pages. Of course if

you go to the snapshot page, you get a version of the RC but not the release

version of it, ie it still has error noise etc.
As the RC is meant to be exactly like the release it uses the same download

procedure.

I hope this helps new people. Its a slight annoyance to go via the donation

and registration page but no passwords are needed and you can opt out of
emails and you do not have to donate. In my view, simply moving the not now

link to above the donation options would have been better from the logical
layout point of view.

Brian

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Re: A short overview of what's new, changed, and removed in NVDA 2017.2

Damien Sykes-Lindley <damien@...>
 

Hi there,
 
“Various selection issues in browse mode were fixed, including an issue where select all would not work if the browse mode cursor is located on positions other than start of a page.”
 
Wow...And I thought that was a possible Firefox issue the whole time! Glad to see that’s been fixed.
Cheers.
Damien.
 

From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 8:59 AM
Subject: [nvda] A short overview of what's new, changed, and removed in NVDA 2017.2
 

Dear NVDA community,

 

As some of you are testing NVDA 2017.2 release candidate, I’d like to take a moment to give you an overview of things added, changed, and removed in the upcoming version. Because entries in “what’s new” document might sound a bit technical for many, I decided to write a release notes style post, similar to notes for releases of other screen readers and products.

 

What’s new in NVDA 2017.2

 

Highlights: Aria-current support, return of full audio ducking feature in Windows 10 Creators Update, faster response in Edge when navigating by line, UI Automation support improvements, more Unicode symbols added, some deprecated code removed.

 

Aria-current

Aria-current is a way to markup current step, page, time, date and others on a webpage. For example, when navigating some pages such as Mobile Facebook page, you may encounter phrases such as “current page” or “current time”. NVDA can now detect and announce these attributes when you encounter them.

 

More Unicode symbols added

NVDA can now announce more Unicode symbols such as fractions such as one-fifths, one-tenth and others.

 

Significant improvements for Edge

Previously, if you were reading multilingual documents in Edge and configured NVDA to switch languages on the fly, NVDA could not switch languages. This has been fixed. Also, NVDA will respond faster (up to three times faster) when navigating by line in Edge. Lastly, various improvements were added to support Edge better in Windows 10 Creators Update.

 

Audio ducking makes a full return in Windows 10 Creators Update

In NVDA 2017.1, the “always duck” option was removed when using Windows 10 Creators Update. This option is back in 2017.2.

 

Deprecated code removed

Various code included in earlier versions of NVDA, such as speech.REASON_ constants and deprecated configuration management functions were removed.

 

Other enhancements

  • NVDA will no longer prevent you from navigating to certain objects where shortcut keys were not defined.
  • Two empty spaces are no longer added when displaying keyboard shortcuts for UI Automation controls.
  • When issuing read current line command three times, the synthesizer in use will apply currently using language to read text, as well as use character descriptions for characters for certain languages.
  • Windows Calculator that ships with Windows Server 2016 and Windows 10 Enterprise LTSB are supported.
  • NVDA will skip UIA controls marked as layout when performing object navigation with simple review mode turned on.
  • Menu items on various websites can be activated in browse mode.
  • Various selection issues in browse mode were fixed, including an issue where select all would not work if the browse mode cursor is located on positions other than start of a page.
  • Burmese is now a supported language, bringing translations to 51 languages.
  • Added basic unit testing framework.

 

Sneak preview of features under active testing

Note that features below may change as time progresses, and are based on features being tested by alpha snapshot users.

  • Windows OneCore voices (Windows 10 only): you can now use Windows OneCore (aka SAPI Mobile) voices directly from NVDA without use of an add-on (listen to various NVDACon 2017 sessions for a sample).
  • Search suggestion sounds (Windows 10 and possibly other places): when you type text into edit fields that display search suggestions, you’ll hear a sound when suggestions appear. You can turn this off from Object Presentation dialog. This means you won’t need Windows 10 App Essentials add-on to use this functionality. Listen to NVDACon 2017’s Windows 10 and universal apps with screen readers session for more details (audio to be made available soon).
  • Many other small improvements under the hood.

 

Thanks.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: A short overview of what's new, changed, and removed in NVDA 2017.2

 

Hi,
Hmmm, please try testing this scenario once NVDA 2017.2 comes out in a few days and report back.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of UMIT ERDEM Yigitoglu
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 1:45 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] A short overview of what's new, changed, and removed in NVDA 2017.2

Braille only shows the window title in focus mode. If I turn focus to review mode, I can read the first page. Than I need to move the page by myself. also it sometimes shows the end of page twice skeeping the first line of the next page.

2017-05-23 11:36 GMT+03:00, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com>:
Hi,
What specific issues are you having, such as braille not showing up,
keys not working and so on? If it has to do with commands, then NVDA
2017.2 should relieve most of these issues (this applies to Braille
Edge and other HIMS displays).
An important disclaimer: I don't work for NV Access. I happen to be a
member of a community (the NVDA users, developers, sponsors and
advocates) that is experiencing (and will experience) huge growth in
the coming weeks and months.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
UMIT ERDEM Yigitoglu
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 1:31 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] A short overview of what's new, changed, and
removed in NVDA 2017.2

Thank you for hart work for all nvda team. It is great program that
will get better and better. I have an issue using braille edge for
reading adobi digital additions content. I don't know if is there
anyway to solve this problem? Braille edge doesn't recognize the text
and that doesn't happen with jaws.
If there is anyway to solve this issue, That will help me a lot in my
studies.
Best regards

2017-05-23 10:59 GMT+03:00, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com>:
Dear NVDA community,



As some of you are testing NVDA 2017.2 release candidate, I'd like to
take a moment to give you an overview of things added, changed, and
removed in the upcoming version. Because entries in "what's new"
document might sound a bit technical for many, I decided to write a
release notes style post, similar to notes for releases of other
screen readers and products.



What's new in NVDA 2017.2



Highlights: Aria-current support, return of full audio ducking
feature in Windows 10 Creators Update, faster response in Edge when
navigating by line, UI Automation support improvements, more Unicode
symbols added, some deprecated code removed.



Aria-current

Aria-current is a way to markup current step, page, time, date and
others on a webpage. For example, when navigating some pages such as
Mobile Facebook page, you may encounter phrases such as "current page"
or "current time".
NVDA can now detect and announce these attributes when you encounter
them.



More Unicode symbols added

NVDA can now announce more Unicode symbols such as fractions such as
one-fifths, one-tenth and others.



Significant improvements for Edge

Previously, if you were reading multilingual documents in Edge and
configured NVDA to switch languages on the fly, NVDA could not switch
languages. This has been fixed. Also, NVDA will respond faster (up to
three times faster) when navigating by line in Edge. Lastly, various
improvements were added to support Edge better in Windows 10 Creators
Update.



Audio ducking makes a full return in Windows 10 Creators Update

In NVDA 2017.1, the "always duck" option was removed when using
Windows 10 Creators Update. This option is back in 2017.2.



Deprecated code removed

Various code included in earlier versions of NVDA, such as
speech.REASON_ constants and deprecated configuration management
functions were removed.



Other enhancements

* NVDA will no longer prevent you from navigating to certain objects
where shortcut keys were not defined.
* Two empty spaces are no longer added when displaying keyboard
shortcuts for UI Automation controls.
* When issuing read current line command three times, the synthesizer
in use will apply currently using language to read text, as well as
use character descriptions for characters for certain languages.
* Windows Calculator that ships with Windows Server 2016 and Windows
10 Enterprise LTSB are supported.
* NVDA will skip UIA controls marked as layout when performing object
navigation with simple review mode turned on.
* Menu items on various websites can be activated in browse mode.
* Various selection issues in browse mode were fixed, including an
issue where select all would not work if the browse mode cursor is
located on positions other than start of a page.
* Burmese is now a supported language, bringing translations to 51
languages.
* Added basic unit testing framework.



Sneak preview of features under active testing

Note that features below may change as time progresses, and are based
on features being tested by alpha snapshot users.

* Windows OneCore voices (Windows 10 only): you can now use Windows
OneCore (aka SAPI Mobile) voices directly from NVDA without use of an
add-on (listen to various NVDACon 2017 sessions for a sample).
* Search suggestion sounds (Windows 10 and possibly other places):
when you type text into edit fields that display search suggestions,
you'll hear a sound when suggestions appear. You can turn this off
from Object Presentation dialog. This means you won't need Windows 10
App Essentials add-on to use this functionality. Listen to NVDACon
2017's Windows 10 and universal apps with screen readers session for
more details (audio to be made available soon).
* Many other small improvements under the hood.



Thanks.

Cheers,

Joseph


--
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kucevre@ku.edu.tr
www.facebook.com/kucevre
koç üniversitesi: rumeli feneri yolu 34450 sarıyer istanbul/turkiye.








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Re: A short overview of what's new, changed, and removed in NVDA 2017.2

UMIT ERDEM Yigitoglu
 

Braille show up I ment.

2017-05-23 11:45 GMT+03:00, UMIT ERDEM Yigitoglu <uyigitoglu@ku.edu.tr>:

Braille only shows the window title in focus mode. If I turn focus to
review mode, I can read the first page. Than I need to move the page
by myself. also it sometimes shows the end of page twice skeeping the
first line of the next page.

2017-05-23 11:36 GMT+03:00, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com>:
Hi,
What specific issues are you having, such as braille not showing up, keys
not working and so on? If it has to do with commands, then NVDA 2017.2
should relieve most of these issues (this applies to Braille Edge and
other
HIMS displays).
An important disclaimer: I don't work for NV Access. I happen to be a
member
of a community (the NVDA users, developers, sponsors and advocates) that
is
experiencing (and will experience) huge growth in the coming weeks and
months.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of UMIT
ERDEM Yigitoglu
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 1:31 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] A short overview of what's new, changed, and removed
in
NVDA 2017.2

Thank you for hart work for all nvda team. It is great program that will
get
better and better. I have an issue using braille edge for reading adobi
digital additions content. I don't know if is there anyway to solve this
problem? Braille edge doesn't recognize the text and that doesn't happen
with jaws.
If there is anyway to solve this issue, That will help me a lot in my
studies.
Best regards

2017-05-23 10:59 GMT+03:00, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com>:
Dear NVDA community,



As some of you are testing NVDA 2017.2 release candidate, I'd like to
take a moment to give you an overview of things added, changed, and
removed in the upcoming version. Because entries in "what's new"
document might sound a bit technical for many, I decided to write a
release notes style post, similar to notes for releases of other
screen readers and products.



What's new in NVDA 2017.2



Highlights: Aria-current support, return of full audio ducking feature
in Windows 10 Creators Update, faster response in Edge when navigating
by line, UI Automation support improvements, more Unicode symbols
added, some deprecated code removed.



Aria-current

Aria-current is a way to markup current step, page, time, date and
others on a webpage. For example, when navigating some pages such as
Mobile Facebook page, you may encounter phrases such as "current page"
or "current time".
NVDA can now detect and announce these attributes when you encounter
them.



More Unicode symbols added

NVDA can now announce more Unicode symbols such as fractions such as
one-fifths, one-tenth and others.



Significant improvements for Edge

Previously, if you were reading multilingual documents in Edge and
configured NVDA to switch languages on the fly, NVDA could not switch
languages. This has been fixed. Also, NVDA will respond faster (up to
three times faster) when navigating by line in Edge. Lastly, various
improvements were added to support Edge better in Windows 10 Creators
Update.



Audio ducking makes a full return in Windows 10 Creators Update

In NVDA 2017.1, the "always duck" option was removed when using
Windows 10 Creators Update. This option is back in 2017.2.



Deprecated code removed

Various code included in earlier versions of NVDA, such as
speech.REASON_ constants and deprecated configuration management
functions
were removed.



Other enhancements

* NVDA will no longer prevent you from navigating to certain objects
where shortcut keys were not defined.
* Two empty spaces are no longer added when displaying keyboard
shortcuts for UI Automation controls.
* When issuing read current line command three times, the synthesizer
in use will apply currently using language to read text, as well as
use character descriptions for characters for certain languages.
* Windows Calculator that ships with Windows Server 2016 and Windows
10 Enterprise LTSB are supported.
* NVDA will skip UIA controls marked as layout when performing object
navigation with simple review mode turned on.
* Menu items on various websites can be activated in browse mode.
* Various selection issues in browse mode were fixed, including an
issue where select all would not work if the browse mode cursor is
located on positions other than start of a page.
* Burmese is now a supported language, bringing translations to 51
languages.
* Added basic unit testing framework.



Sneak preview of features under active testing

Note that features below may change as time progresses, and are based
on features being tested by alpha snapshot users.

* Windows OneCore voices (Windows 10 only): you can now use Windows
OneCore (aka SAPI Mobile) voices directly from NVDA without use of an
add-on (listen to various NVDACon 2017 sessions for a sample).
* Search suggestion sounds (Windows 10 and possibly other places):
when you type text into edit fields that display search suggestions,
you'll hear a sound when suggestions appear. You can turn this off
from Object Presentation dialog. This means you won't need Windows 10
App Essentials add-on to use this functionality. Listen to NVDACon
2017's Windows 10 and universal apps with screen readers session for
more details (audio to be made available soon).
* Many other small improvements under the hood.



Thanks.

Cheers,

Joseph


--
psikoloji lisans öğrencisi- b.a student in psychology

kucevre@ku.edu.tr
www.facebook.com/kucevre
koç üniversitesi: rumeli feneri yolu 34450 sarıyer istanbul/turkiye.








--
psikoloji lisans öğrencisi- b.a student in psychology

kucevre@ku.edu.tr
www.facebook.com/kucevre
koç üniversitesi: rumeli feneri yolu 34450 sarıyer istanbul/turkiye.
--
psikoloji lisans öğrencisi- b.a student in psychology

kucevre@ku.edu.tr
www.facebook.com/kucevre
koç üniversitesi: rumeli feneri yolu 34450 sarıyer istanbul/turkiye.


Re: A short overview of what's new, changed, and removed in NVDA 2017.2

Antony Stone
 

Very helpful.

Pleas could this sort of information be put on to the website, so that people
can read about the new version and choose whether to download it?

I can't find any mention at all of it there, even if you already know the
address https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2017-2rc1-released/ to get the RC
download from.


Antony.

On Tuesday 23 May 2017 at 09:59:30, Joseph Lee wrote:

Dear NVDA community,

As some of you are testing NVDA 2017.2 release candidate, I'd like to take
a moment to give you an overview of things added, changed, and removed in
the upcoming version. Because entries in "what's new" document might sound
a bit technical for many, I decided to write a release notes style post,
similar to notes for releases of other screen readers and products.

What's new in NVDA 2017.2
--
Archaeologists have found a previously-unknown dinosaur which seems to have
had a very large vocabulary. They've named it Thesaurus.

Please reply to the list;
please *don't* CC me.


Re: A short overview of what's new, changed, and removed in NVDA 2017.2

UMIT ERDEM Yigitoglu
 

Braille only shows the window title in focus mode. If I turn focus to
review mode, I can read the first page. Than I need to move the page
by myself. also it sometimes shows the end of page twice skeeping the
first line of the next page.

2017-05-23 11:36 GMT+03:00, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com>:

Hi,
What specific issues are you having, such as braille not showing up, keys
not working and so on? If it has to do with commands, then NVDA 2017.2
should relieve most of these issues (this applies to Braille Edge and other
HIMS displays).
An important disclaimer: I don't work for NV Access. I happen to be a member
of a community (the NVDA users, developers, sponsors and advocates) that is
experiencing (and will experience) huge growth in the coming weeks and
months.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of UMIT
ERDEM Yigitoglu
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 1:31 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] A short overview of what's new, changed, and removed in
NVDA 2017.2

Thank you for hart work for all nvda team. It is great program that will get
better and better. I have an issue using braille edge for reading adobi
digital additions content. I don't know if is there anyway to solve this
problem? Braille edge doesn't recognize the text and that doesn't happen
with jaws.
If there is anyway to solve this issue, That will help me a lot in my
studies.
Best regards

2017-05-23 10:59 GMT+03:00, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com>:
Dear NVDA community,



As some of you are testing NVDA 2017.2 release candidate, I'd like to
take a moment to give you an overview of things added, changed, and
removed in the upcoming version. Because entries in "what's new"
document might sound a bit technical for many, I decided to write a
release notes style post, similar to notes for releases of other
screen readers and products.



What's new in NVDA 2017.2



Highlights: Aria-current support, return of full audio ducking feature
in Windows 10 Creators Update, faster response in Edge when navigating
by line, UI Automation support improvements, more Unicode symbols
added, some deprecated code removed.



Aria-current

Aria-current is a way to markup current step, page, time, date and
others on a webpage. For example, when navigating some pages such as
Mobile Facebook page, you may encounter phrases such as "current page"
or "current time".
NVDA can now detect and announce these attributes when you encounter
them.



More Unicode symbols added

NVDA can now announce more Unicode symbols such as fractions such as
one-fifths, one-tenth and others.



Significant improvements for Edge

Previously, if you were reading multilingual documents in Edge and
configured NVDA to switch languages on the fly, NVDA could not switch
languages. This has been fixed. Also, NVDA will respond faster (up to
three times faster) when navigating by line in Edge. Lastly, various
improvements were added to support Edge better in Windows 10 Creators
Update.



Audio ducking makes a full return in Windows 10 Creators Update

In NVDA 2017.1, the "always duck" option was removed when using
Windows 10 Creators Update. This option is back in 2017.2.



Deprecated code removed

Various code included in earlier versions of NVDA, such as
speech.REASON_ constants and deprecated configuration management functions
were removed.



Other enhancements

* NVDA will no longer prevent you from navigating to certain objects
where shortcut keys were not defined.
* Two empty spaces are no longer added when displaying keyboard
shortcuts for UI Automation controls.
* When issuing read current line command three times, the synthesizer
in use will apply currently using language to read text, as well as
use character descriptions for characters for certain languages.
* Windows Calculator that ships with Windows Server 2016 and Windows
10 Enterprise LTSB are supported.
* NVDA will skip UIA controls marked as layout when performing object
navigation with simple review mode turned on.
* Menu items on various websites can be activated in browse mode.
* Various selection issues in browse mode were fixed, including an
issue where select all would not work if the browse mode cursor is
located on positions other than start of a page.
* Burmese is now a supported language, bringing translations to 51
languages.
* Added basic unit testing framework.



Sneak preview of features under active testing

Note that features below may change as time progresses, and are based
on features being tested by alpha snapshot users.

* Windows OneCore voices (Windows 10 only): you can now use Windows
OneCore (aka SAPI Mobile) voices directly from NVDA without use of an
add-on (listen to various NVDACon 2017 sessions for a sample).
* Search suggestion sounds (Windows 10 and possibly other places):
when you type text into edit fields that display search suggestions,
you'll hear a sound when suggestions appear. You can turn this off
from Object Presentation dialog. This means you won't need Windows 10
App Essentials add-on to use this functionality. Listen to NVDACon
2017's Windows 10 and universal apps with screen readers session for
more details (audio to be made available soon).
* Many other small improvements under the hood.



Thanks.

Cheers,

Joseph


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Re: A short overview of what's new, changed, and removed in NVDA 2017.2

 

Hi,
What specific issues are you having, such as braille not showing up, keys not working and so on? If it has to do with commands, then NVDA 2017.2 should relieve most of these issues (this applies to Braille Edge and other HIMS displays).
An important disclaimer: I don't work for NV Access. I happen to be a member of a community (the NVDA users, developers, sponsors and advocates) that is experiencing (and will experience) huge growth in the coming weeks and months.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of UMIT ERDEM Yigitoglu
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 1:31 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] A short overview of what's new, changed, and removed in NVDA 2017.2

Thank you for hart work for all nvda team. It is great program that will get better and better. I have an issue using braille edge for reading adobi digital additions content. I don't know if is there anyway to solve this problem? Braille edge doesn't recognize the text and that doesn't happen with jaws.
If there is anyway to solve this issue, That will help me a lot in my studies.
Best regards

2017-05-23 10:59 GMT+03:00, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com>:
Dear NVDA community,



As some of you are testing NVDA 2017.2 release candidate, I'd like to
take a moment to give you an overview of things added, changed, and
removed in the upcoming version. Because entries in "what's new"
document might sound a bit technical for many, I decided to write a
release notes style post, similar to notes for releases of other
screen readers and products.



What's new in NVDA 2017.2



Highlights: Aria-current support, return of full audio ducking feature
in Windows 10 Creators Update, faster response in Edge when navigating
by line, UI Automation support improvements, more Unicode symbols
added, some deprecated code removed.



Aria-current

Aria-current is a way to markup current step, page, time, date and
others on a webpage. For example, when navigating some pages such as
Mobile Facebook page, you may encounter phrases such as "current page"
or "current time".
NVDA can now detect and announce these attributes when you encounter them.



More Unicode symbols added

NVDA can now announce more Unicode symbols such as fractions such as
one-fifths, one-tenth and others.



Significant improvements for Edge

Previously, if you were reading multilingual documents in Edge and
configured NVDA to switch languages on the fly, NVDA could not switch
languages. This has been fixed. Also, NVDA will respond faster (up to
three times faster) when navigating by line in Edge. Lastly, various
improvements were added to support Edge better in Windows 10 Creators Update.



Audio ducking makes a full return in Windows 10 Creators Update

In NVDA 2017.1, the "always duck" option was removed when using
Windows 10 Creators Update. This option is back in 2017.2.



Deprecated code removed

Various code included in earlier versions of NVDA, such as
speech.REASON_ constants and deprecated configuration management functions were removed.



Other enhancements

* NVDA will no longer prevent you from navigating to certain objects
where shortcut keys were not defined.
* Two empty spaces are no longer added when displaying keyboard
shortcuts for UI Automation controls.
* When issuing read current line command three times, the synthesizer
in use will apply currently using language to read text, as well as
use character descriptions for characters for certain languages.
* Windows Calculator that ships with Windows Server 2016 and Windows
10 Enterprise LTSB are supported.
* NVDA will skip UIA controls marked as layout when performing object
navigation with simple review mode turned on.
* Menu items on various websites can be activated in browse mode.
* Various selection issues in browse mode were fixed, including an
issue where select all would not work if the browse mode cursor is
located on positions other than start of a page.
* Burmese is now a supported language, bringing translations to 51
languages.
* Added basic unit testing framework.



Sneak preview of features under active testing

Note that features below may change as time progresses, and are based
on features being tested by alpha snapshot users.

* Windows OneCore voices (Windows 10 only): you can now use Windows
OneCore (aka SAPI Mobile) voices directly from NVDA without use of an
add-on (listen to various NVDACon 2017 sessions for a sample).
* Search suggestion sounds (Windows 10 and possibly other places):
when you type text into edit fields that display search suggestions,
you'll hear a sound when suggestions appear. You can turn this off
from Object Presentation dialog. This means you won't need Windows 10
App Essentials add-on to use this functionality. Listen to NVDACon
2017's Windows 10 and universal apps with screen readers session for
more details (audio to be made available soon).
* Many other small improvements under the hood.



Thanks.

Cheers,

Joseph


--
psikoloji lisans öğrencisi- b.a student in psychology

kucevre@ku.edu.tr
www.facebook.com/kucevre
koç üniversitesi: rumeli feneri yolu 34450 sarıyer istanbul/turkiye.