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Re: Spelling

Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...>
 

Please see my message I sent afterward. I'm a moron! LOL!
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----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2017 6:59 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Spelling

That isn't correct.  Numpad 5 is announce current word.  Announce current character is numpad 2.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2017 5:48 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Spelling

Oh, OK. that is easy.
 
So... with the desktop layout, which is what you'd be set to by default, it's insert+num pad 5 twice quickly. Numpad 5 by itself is current character, whereas insert+numpad 5 is current word.
 
In other words, without the insert key, it's current character, or if pushed twice quickly it will phenetically name the letter, like, alpha, bravo, charley, delta, echo, etc.
 
If however you add the insert key, sometimes called the jaws key, it reads the current word. If you hold down the insert key while quickly pressing num pad 5 twice, it will spell the word, and as you guessed, if you hold down the insert key and then quickly press num pad 5 twice quickly, it'll spell the word quickly.
 
So, instead of:
 
c h r i s,
 
You'd hear:
 
charley hotel romio india sierra.
 
Now, if you're using the laptop layout, then the keys are a little different.
 
capslock+K is current word, and capslock+K twice quickly will spell the word.
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2017 6:25 PM
Subject: [nvda] Spelling

 

Hi, all. in jaws when I want to check a letter by pressing the same key twice I hear it as millitary spelling. for example if I press V I hear victor and so on. If I do this with NVDA it spell the word and not the letter. How can I get NVDA to do the same as jaws? Using W10, current NVDA. Help.
Holger Fiallo


Re: Spelling

Gene
 

That isn't correct.  Numpad 5 is announce current word.  Announce current character is numpad 2.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2017 5:48 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Spelling

Oh, OK. that is easy.
 
So... with the desktop layout, which is what you'd be set to by default, it's insert+num pad 5 twice quickly. Numpad 5 by itself is current character, whereas insert+numpad 5 is current word.
 
In other words, without the insert key, it's current character, or if pushed twice quickly it will phenetically name the letter, like, alpha, bravo, charley, delta, echo, etc.
 
If however you add the insert key, sometimes called the jaws key, it reads the current word. If you hold down the insert key while quickly pressing num pad 5 twice, it will spell the word, and as you guessed, if you hold down the insert key and then quickly press num pad 5 twice quickly, it'll spell the word quickly.
 
So, instead of:
 
c h r i s,
 
You'd hear:
 
charley hotel romio india sierra.
 
Now, if you're using the laptop layout, then the keys are a little different.
 
capslock+K is current word, and capslock+K twice quickly will spell the word.
---
Christopher Gilland
Co-founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2017 6:25 PM
Subject: [nvda] Spelling

 

Hi, all. in jaws when I want to check a letter by pressing the same key twice I hear it as millitary spelling. for example if I press V I hear victor and so on. If I do this with NVDA it spell the word and not the letter. How can I get NVDA to do the same as jaws? Using W10, current NVDA. Help.
Holger Fiallo


Re: Spelling

Gene
 

If you press the speak current letter key once, it reads the letter.  If you press it twice, it gives the military spelling.  If you press announce current word once, it reads the current word.  If you press it twice it spells the current word.  If you press it three times, it spells every letter of the current word using military spelling.  Current letter is numpad 2.  Current word is numpad 5.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2017 5:39 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Spelling

   
    What if I only want the letter. My hearing sometimes is bad and have problem teling diffrence between N, M, V or B. with jaws if I hit the key twice it will tell me.
From: Gene
Sent: Thursday, April 6, 2017 5:28 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Spelling
 
You spell the word by using numpad f5 for read current word. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Holger Fiallo
Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2017 5:25 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Spelling
 
 

Hi, all. in jaws when I want to check a letter by pressing the same key twice I hear it as millitary spelling. for example if I press V I hear victor and so on. If I do this with NVDA it spell the word and not the letter. How can I get NVDA to do the same as jaws? Using W10, current NVDA. Help.
Holger Fiallo


Re: Spelling

Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...>
 

Crap! I am so sorry! I thought this was on the win10 list not NVDA, and that he was asking how to do this with JAWS, not NVDA.
 
Never mind my stupidity! I profusely apologize! I'm an idiot!
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----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2017 6:28 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Spelling

You spell the word by using numpad f5 for read current word. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2017 5:25 PM
Subject: [nvda] Spelling

 

Hi, all. in jaws when I want to check a letter by pressing the same key twice I hear it as millitary spelling. for example if I press V I hear victor and so on. If I do this with NVDA it spell the word and not the letter. How can I get NVDA to do the same as jaws? Using W10, current NVDA. Help.
Holger Fiallo


Re: Spelling

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi


The other commands that are useful depending how you drive nvda is.


this is on the numeric keypad and the review cursor is used.


If on the word as the other Gene mentioned use the number 5 on the numeric keypad. hitting it twice will spell the word that has the focus.


if you want to do the current letter use the number 2 on the numeric keypad. Once will say the letter doing it two times will tel you what is is. for example. for exampl echo for the letter E.


You can also use the number 1 to do the previous character to the left and 3 to do the next character inthe word.


Then you can use the number 2 on the numeric keypad to see what that letter is as in echo for the letter E.


make sure also the num lock key is turned off.


Gene nz

 


On 7/04/2017 10:39 AM, Holger Fiallo wrote:
   
    What if I only want the letter. My hearing sometimes is bad and have problem teling diffrence between N, M, V or B. with jaws if I hit the key twice it will tell me.
From: Gene
Sent: Thursday, April 6, 2017 5:28 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Spelling
 
You spell the word by using numpad f5 for read current word. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Holger Fiallo
Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2017 5:25 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Spelling
 
 

Hi, all. in jaws when I want to check a letter by pressing the same key twice I hear it as millitary spelling. for example if I press V I hear victor and so on. If I do this with NVDA it spell the word and not the letter. How can I get NVDA to do the same as jaws? Using W10, current NVDA. Help.
Holger Fiallo


Re: Spelling

Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...>
 

Oh, OK. that is easy.
 
So... with the desktop layout, which is what you'd be set to by default, it's insert+num pad 5 twice quickly. Numpad 5 by itself is current character, whereas insert+numpad 5 is current word.
 
In other words, without the insert key, it's current character, or if pushed twice quickly it will phenetically name the letter, like, alpha, bravo, charley, delta, echo, etc.
 
If however you add the insert key, sometimes called the jaws key, it reads the current word. If you hold down the insert key while quickly pressing num pad 5 twice, it will spell the word, and as you guessed, if you hold down the insert key and then quickly press num pad 5 twice quickly, it'll spell the word quickly.
 
So, instead of:
 
c h r i s,
 
You'd hear:
 
charley hotel romio india sierra.
 
Now, if you're using the laptop layout, then the keys are a little different.
 
capslock+K is current word, and capslock+K twice quickly will spell the word.
---
Christopher Gilland
Co-founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2017 6:25 PM
Subject: [nvda] Spelling

 

Hi, all. in jaws when I want to check a letter by pressing the same key twice I hear it as millitary spelling. for example if I press V I hear victor and so on. If I do this with NVDA it spell the word and not the letter. How can I get NVDA to do the same as jaws? Using W10, current NVDA. Help.
Holger Fiallo


Re: Spelling

Holger Fiallo <hfiallo@...>
 

   
    What if I only want the letter. My hearing sometimes is bad and have problem teling diffrence between N, M, V or B. with jaws if I hit the key twice it will tell me.

From: Gene
Sent: Thursday, April 6, 2017 5:28 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Spelling
 
You spell the word by using numpad f5 for read current word. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Holger Fiallo
Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2017 5:25 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Spelling
 
 

Hi, all. in jaws when I want to check a letter by pressing the same key twice I hear it as millitary spelling. for example if I press V I hear victor and so on. If I do this with NVDA it spell the word and not the letter. How can I get NVDA to do the same as jaws? Using W10, current NVDA. Help.
Holger Fiallo


Re: Spelling

Gene
 

You spell the word by using numpad f5 for read current word. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2017 5:25 PM
Subject: [nvda] Spelling

 

Hi, all. in jaws when I want to check a letter by pressing the same key twice I hear it as millitary spelling. for example if I press V I hear victor and so on. If I do this with NVDA it spell the word and not the letter. How can I get NVDA to do the same as jaws? Using W10, current NVDA. Help.
Holger Fiallo


Spelling

Holger Fiallo <hfiallo@...>
 

 

Hi, all. in jaws when I want to check a letter by pressing the same key twice I hear it as millitary spelling. for example if I press V I hear victor and so on. If I do this with NVDA it spell the word and not the letter. How can I get NVDA to do the same as jaws? Using W10, current NVDA. Help.
Holger Fiallo


Re: Win 10 Creator update and NVDA

Don H
 

If you use the win 10 update assistant it will install the Creator version.

On 4/6/2017 4:59 PM, The Wolf wrote:
I wasn't aware of them rulling out 10 creators version can u tell me
when they did this?



On 4/6/2017 2:57 PM, Don H wrote:
I have the release version.

On 4/6/2017 4:54 PM, The Wolf wrote:
are u using the insider build or was it released?


On 4/6/2017 2:48 PM, Don H wrote:
Have just installed the Creator version of Win 10 and don't see a
whole lot of differences but do see that NVDA is working much better
with the Edge browser.









Re: Win 10 Creator update and NVDA

 

I wasn't aware of them rulling out 10 creators version can u tell me when they did this?

On 4/6/2017 2:57 PM, Don H wrote:
I have the release version.

On 4/6/2017 4:54 PM, The Wolf wrote:
are u using the insider build or was it released?


On 4/6/2017 2:48 PM, Don H wrote:
Have just installed the Creator version of Win 10 and don't see a
whole lot of differences but do see that NVDA is working much better
with the Edge browser.






Re: Win 10 Creator update and NVDA

Don H
 

I have the release version.

On 4/6/2017 4:54 PM, The Wolf wrote:
are u using the insider build or was it released?


On 4/6/2017 2:48 PM, Don H wrote:
Have just installed the Creator version of Win 10 and don't see a
whole lot of differences but do see that NVDA is working much better
with the Edge browser.





Re: Win 10 Creator update and NVDA

 

are u using the insider build or was it released?

On 4/6/2017 2:48 PM, Don H wrote:
Have just installed the Creator version of Win 10 and don't see a whole lot of differences but do see that NVDA is working much better with the Edge browser.


Win 10 Creator update and NVDA

Don H
 

Have just installed the Creator version of Win 10 and don't see a whole lot of differences but do see that NVDA is working much better with the Edge browser.


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Re: Command line spelling out output

Jacob Kruger
 

Toggle speaking of typed characters, and, speaking of typed words, if that one was not enabled.


Think it has to do with output to console/command line being rendered one character at a time, even if quite quickly.


And, been like this for a while now, and, besides coming across it when working with things like standard dos commands, I also work around this when playing around with various forms of utlities for forms of work.


Stay well


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On 2017-04-06 17:29, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
Hmm, I'd have thought though that the output from this would be on the main body of the screen not in the edit field, or have I misunderstood what you mean?
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Felix G." <constantlyvariable@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2017 11:25 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Command line spelling out output


Hello,
does the problem persist if you turn keyboard echo off in NVDA (NVDA+2 in
Desktop layout)?
There is a problem where NVDA thinks a character was typed because it
appeared right next to the cursor. The heuristic works fairly well but when
it fails it might very well lead to everything being s p e l l e d out.
Kind regards,
Felix Grützmacher


Brian's Mail list account <bglists@blueyonder.co.uk> schrieb am Do., 6.
Apr. 2017 um 12:02 Uhr:

I had reason to run the sfc /scannow command the other day, and the
complete
output was spelled one character at a time. I don't recall this occuring
before. Anyone?
Brian

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OT. Cochlear Implant Users

Rob
 

I apologize for posting this here, but I know there are some deaf-blind members on list (although I don't remember who they are!) and I'm hoping I can get some help.
I have been wrestling with the decision to get an implant and I want to talk to users of the device. If there are any such people on this list, please write me off list at
captinlogic@gmail.com
. In addition, if anyone on list knows of such people who have a CI, I hereby grant and offer my permission to forward this request to such people. I need to talk to as many people as possible about this thing.
Thanks for any help and I apologize for the OT post. But this is severely important to me and I am not sure where else to turn to find deaf-blind CI users.


Re: donating

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

But this is an exchange rate issue not an issue anywhere else, you have to decide what they are offering at the time with the currency converter and that its that. Of course there is no such thing as a free lunch, but the exchange rate is calculated so all in the chain are not out of p9ocket and lets just say its far less of a rip off than some places like airports etc for getting cash in other currencies.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "erik burggraaf" <erik@erik-burggraaf.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2017 2:39 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] donating


Hello Don,

This is my experience donating to NVDA. I make a paypal donation through the website, choosing my preferred funding source. Could be a credit card or a bank account which I have added to my paypal account. Paypal completes the transaction in australian dollars which I allow it to do. Paypal takes care of the conversion from my canadian dollar currency to the australian dollars required for the transaction and whatever the currency exchange rate is, that's what I pay. It's all pretty seemless and neet. Paypal just takes care of everything behind the scenes.

If you use paypal to donate in australian dollars, you should actually come out ahead on the exchange. For example, a $5 donation might cost you $4 US or there-abouts.

Thanks for donating.

Best,

Erik

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On April 6, 2017 9:30:03 AM "Don H" <lmddh50@comcast.net> wrote:

Would someone please tell me how donating to NVDA from the United States
works. In the past when I used my credit card to purchase something out
of country there were added fees on the transaction. Does this hold
true when supporting NVDA?




Re: donating

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

That very much depends on the terms of use of your card supplier as far as I am aware. Here in the UK I can use Paypal or Visa and the same amount goes out, ie what is entered in after the conversion rate at the time.
I'm very surprised if, in this day and age that they would add a charge unless its some kind of tax imposed by government.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Don H" <lmddh50@comcast.net>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2017 2:29 PM
Subject: [nvda] donating


Would someone please tell me how donating to NVDA from the United States works. In the past when I used my credit card to purchase something out of country there were added fees on the transaction. Does this hold true when supporting NVDA?


Re: Command line spelling out output

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

Hmm, I'd have thought though that the output from this would be on the main body of the screen not in the edit field, or have I misunderstood what you mean?
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Felix G." <constantlyvariable@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2017 11:25 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Command line spelling out output


Hello,
does the problem persist if you turn keyboard echo off in NVDA (NVDA+2 in
Desktop layout)?
There is a problem where NVDA thinks a character was typed because it
appeared right next to the cursor. The heuristic works fairly well but when
it fails it might very well lead to everything being s p e l l e d out.
Kind regards,
Felix Grützmacher


Brian's Mail list account <bglists@blueyonder.co.uk> schrieb am Do., 6.
Apr. 2017 um 12:02 Uhr:

I had reason to run the sfc /scannow command the other day, and the
complete
output was spelled one character at a time. I don't recall this occuring
before. Anyone?
Brian

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