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Re: Incredibly odd problem with the NVDA modifier key

Rui Fontes
 

Very odd problem!
In the portuguese and brazilian community didn't happen with no one...

Rui


-----Mensagem Original-----
De: Christopher-Mark Gilland
Data: 9 de junho de 2017 00:11
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: [nvda] Incredibly odd problem with the NVDA modifier key


OK, this makes no sense, and I'm highly surprised that no one has seen it, given the fact I've reproduced it on about 6 different computers here, and have also had about 5 of my other friends reproduce it as well.

Ever since updating to NVDA 2017.2, my numpad insert key has completely stopped working as the NVDA modifier.

I looked in the keyboard preferences and both caps lock and numpad insert are checked. I've unchecked and re, checked both checkboxes individually as well as at the same time. I've restarted NVDA, I've rebooted, I've unloaded all plugins and simply reinstalled from a fresh copy with not a single addon running, and all default stock settings.

I've tried with both a portable copy, as well as a full installation.

I've converted a portable to a full install, as well as downloaded the setup file and installed directly with no success.

I even used Revo to remove NVDA so that no traces of any app data were behind. Then reinstalled. No good.

I've tried this on Windows 7 Home, Windows 7 Pro, Windows 7 Ultimate, all 3 of those, I've tried both with X86 as well as X64.

I've tried with Windows 10 Home, Windows 10 Pro, and even had a friend who's a college student try with Windows 10 Education. All of those were tested as well on both X86 and X64. This was reproduced on every single one of those systems 100% consistently.

Before anyone asks the obvious, yes, num lock was disabled. I'm not that far gone.

I looked through the diag logs and saw nothing that indicated what the problem was.

I checked for an NVDA update and found nothing.

I installed the snapshot next branch and had the same problem.

I tested with JAWS to be sure it wasn't something screwy in general going on with my insert key, but in JFW, it works flawlessly, plus the fact it's happenning on more than one system...

I even was so desperet, I tried with XP Pro, and that even was reproducible.

What gives!

Chris.


Re: Incredibly odd problem with the NVDA modifier key

Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...>
 


I'm aware of the difference in the 6pack extended insert key, and the numpad insert key, and yes, I am absolutely 100% sure.
 
I'd call you all's tech support line, but I can't afford support right now; don't have the money. This is driving me however to absolute drinking, which with the stress lately I've been under in general, is the last thing I need to do!
---
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Co-founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2017 8:28 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Incredibly odd problem with the NVDA modifier key

Very odd, and you've definitely got "Use numpad insert as an NVDA modifier key" checked?  (There are two insert options - the other is "use extended insert as an NVDA modifier key" - that's the insert in the group of six keys with insert, delete, home, end, page up and page down).


On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 10:22 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...> wrote:
If num lock is on, yes, the 0 types perfectly, nope, all different type PC's, some desktop, some laptop. Anything from HP, to Lonovo, Dell, a few Acers, maybe one or two Asuses, etc. Someone said plug a wireless keyboard in, and it'll work. Not the case. Tried that, and it didn't help.
---
Christopher Gilland
Co-founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2017 8:10 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Incredibly odd problem with the NVDA modifier key

If numlock is on, does the key type a 0?  If it was one keyboard on one computer, I'd suspect the key might have gone, but you say it's happening on multiple computers?  Are they all the same type of computer and same type of keyboard?

On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 10:03 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...> wrote:
Absolutely nothing. It works fine though if I use caps lock.
---
Christopher Gilland
Co-founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2017 7:54 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Incredibly odd problem with the NVDA modifier key

Interesting, I haven't seen that.  If you press NVDA+1 to go into input help mode, what does NVDA report when you then press the numpad insert key?

On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 9:11 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...> wrote:
OK, this makes no sense, and I'm highly surprised that no one has seen it, given the fact I've reproduced it on about 6 different computers here, and have also had about 5 of my other friends reproduce it as well.
 
Ever since updating to NVDA 2017.2, my numpad insert key has completely stopped working as the NVDA modifier.
 
I looked in the keyboard preferences and both caps lock and numpad insert are checked. I've unchecked and re, checked both checkboxes individually as well as at the same time. I've restarted NVDA, I've rebooted, I've unloaded all plugins and simply reinstalled from a fresh copy with not a single addon running, and all default stock settings.
 
I've tried with both a portable copy, as well as a full installation.
 
I've converted a portable to a full install, as well as downloaded the setup file and installed directly with no success.
 
I even used Revo to remove NVDA so that no traces of any app data were behind. Then reinstalled. No good.
 
I've tried this on Windows 7 Home, Windows 7 Pro, Windows 7 Ultimate, all 3 of those, I've tried both with X86 as well as X64.
 
I've tried with Windows 10 Home, Windows 10 Pro, and even had a friend who's a college student try with Windows 10 Education. All of those were tested as well on both X86 and X64. This was reproduced on every single one of those systems 100% consistently.
 
Before anyone asks the obvious, yes, num lock was disabled. I'm not that far gone.
 
I looked through the diag logs and saw nothing that indicated what the problem was.
 
I checked for an NVDA update and found nothing.
 
I installed the snapshot next branch and had the same problem.
 
I tested with JAWS to be sure it wasn't something screwy in general going on with my insert key, but in JFW, it works flawlessly, plus the fact it's happenning on more than one system...
 
I even was so desperet, I tried with XP Pro, and that even was reproducible.
 
What gives!
 
Chris.




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Re: Incredibly odd problem with the NVDA modifier key

Quentin Christensen
 

Very odd, and you've definitely got "Use numpad insert as an NVDA modifier key" checked?  (There are two insert options - the other is "use extended insert as an NVDA modifier key" - that's the insert in the group of six keys with insert, delete, home, end, page up and page down).


On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 10:22 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...> wrote:
If num lock is on, yes, the 0 types perfectly, nope, all different type PC's, some desktop, some laptop. Anything from HP, to Lonovo, Dell, a few Acers, maybe one or two Asuses, etc. Someone said plug a wireless keyboard in, and it'll work. Not the case. Tried that, and it didn't help.
---
Christopher Gilland
Co-founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2017 8:10 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Incredibly odd problem with the NVDA modifier key

If numlock is on, does the key type a 0?  If it was one keyboard on one computer, I'd suspect the key might have gone, but you say it's happening on multiple computers?  Are they all the same type of computer and same type of keyboard?

On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 10:03 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...> wrote:
Absolutely nothing. It works fine though if I use caps lock.
---
Christopher Gilland
Co-founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2017 7:54 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Incredibly odd problem with the NVDA modifier key

Interesting, I haven't seen that.  If you press NVDA+1 to go into input help mode, what does NVDA report when you then press the numpad insert key?

On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 9:11 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...> wrote:
OK, this makes no sense, and I'm highly surprised that no one has seen it, given the fact I've reproduced it on about 6 different computers here, and have also had about 5 of my other friends reproduce it as well.
 
Ever since updating to NVDA 2017.2, my numpad insert key has completely stopped working as the NVDA modifier.
 
I looked in the keyboard preferences and both caps lock and numpad insert are checked. I've unchecked and re, checked both checkboxes individually as well as at the same time. I've restarted NVDA, I've rebooted, I've unloaded all plugins and simply reinstalled from a fresh copy with not a single addon running, and all default stock settings.
 
I've tried with both a portable copy, as well as a full installation.
 
I've converted a portable to a full install, as well as downloaded the setup file and installed directly with no success.
 
I even used Revo to remove NVDA so that no traces of any app data were behind. Then reinstalled. No good.
 
I've tried this on Windows 7 Home, Windows 7 Pro, Windows 7 Ultimate, all 3 of those, I've tried both with X86 as well as X64.
 
I've tried with Windows 10 Home, Windows 10 Pro, and even had a friend who's a college student try with Windows 10 Education. All of those were tested as well on both X86 and X64. This was reproduced on every single one of those systems 100% consistently.
 
Before anyone asks the obvious, yes, num lock was disabled. I'm not that far gone.
 
I looked through the diag logs and saw nothing that indicated what the problem was.
 
I checked for an NVDA update and found nothing.
 
I installed the snapshot next branch and had the same problem.
 
I tested with JAWS to be sure it wasn't something screwy in general going on with my insert key, but in JFW, it works flawlessly, plus the fact it's happenning on more than one system...
 
I even was so desperet, I tried with XP Pro, and that even was reproducible.
 
What gives!
 
Chris.




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Re: Incredibly odd problem with the NVDA modifier key

Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...>
 


If num lock is on, yes, the 0 types perfectly, nope, all different type PC's, some desktop, some laptop. Anything from HP, to Lonovo, Dell, a few Acers, maybe one or two Asuses, etc. Someone said plug a wireless keyboard in, and it'll work. Not the case. Tried that, and it didn't help.
---
Christopher Gilland
Co-founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2017 8:10 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Incredibly odd problem with the NVDA modifier key

If numlock is on, does the key type a 0?  If it was one keyboard on one computer, I'd suspect the key might have gone, but you say it's happening on multiple computers?  Are they all the same type of computer and same type of keyboard?

On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 10:03 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...> wrote:
Absolutely nothing. It works fine though if I use caps lock.
---
Christopher Gilland
Co-founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2017 7:54 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Incredibly odd problem with the NVDA modifier key

Interesting, I haven't seen that.  If you press NVDA+1 to go into input help mode, what does NVDA report when you then press the numpad insert key?

On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 9:11 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...> wrote:
OK, this makes no sense, and I'm highly surprised that no one has seen it, given the fact I've reproduced it on about 6 different computers here, and have also had about 5 of my other friends reproduce it as well.
 
Ever since updating to NVDA 2017.2, my numpad insert key has completely stopped working as the NVDA modifier.
 
I looked in the keyboard preferences and both caps lock and numpad insert are checked. I've unchecked and re, checked both checkboxes individually as well as at the same time. I've restarted NVDA, I've rebooted, I've unloaded all plugins and simply reinstalled from a fresh copy with not a single addon running, and all default stock settings.
 
I've tried with both a portable copy, as well as a full installation.
 
I've converted a portable to a full install, as well as downloaded the setup file and installed directly with no success.
 
I even used Revo to remove NVDA so that no traces of any app data were behind. Then reinstalled. No good.
 
I've tried this on Windows 7 Home, Windows 7 Pro, Windows 7 Ultimate, all 3 of those, I've tried both with X86 as well as X64.
 
I've tried with Windows 10 Home, Windows 10 Pro, and even had a friend who's a college student try with Windows 10 Education. All of those were tested as well on both X86 and X64. This was reproduced on every single one of those systems 100% consistently.
 
Before anyone asks the obvious, yes, num lock was disabled. I'm not that far gone.
 
I looked through the diag logs and saw nothing that indicated what the problem was.
 
I checked for an NVDA update and found nothing.
 
I installed the snapshot next branch and had the same problem.
 
I tested with JAWS to be sure it wasn't something screwy in general going on with my insert key, but in JFW, it works flawlessly, plus the fact it's happenning on more than one system...
 
I even was so desperet, I tried with XP Pro, and that even was reproducible.
 
What gives!
 
Chris.




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Re: Incredibly odd problem with the NVDA modifier key

Quentin Christensen
 

If numlock is on, does the key type a 0?  If it was one keyboard on one computer, I'd suspect the key might have gone, but you say it's happening on multiple computers?  Are they all the same type of computer and same type of keyboard?

On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 10:03 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...> wrote:
Absolutely nothing. It works fine though if I use caps lock.
---
Christopher Gilland
Co-founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2017 7:54 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Incredibly odd problem with the NVDA modifier key

Interesting, I haven't seen that.  If you press NVDA+1 to go into input help mode, what does NVDA report when you then press the numpad insert key?

On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 9:11 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...> wrote:
OK, this makes no sense, and I'm highly surprised that no one has seen it, given the fact I've reproduced it on about 6 different computers here, and have also had about 5 of my other friends reproduce it as well.
 
Ever since updating to NVDA 2017.2, my numpad insert key has completely stopped working as the NVDA modifier.
 
I looked in the keyboard preferences and both caps lock and numpad insert are checked. I've unchecked and re, checked both checkboxes individually as well as at the same time. I've restarted NVDA, I've rebooted, I've unloaded all plugins and simply reinstalled from a fresh copy with not a single addon running, and all default stock settings.
 
I've tried with both a portable copy, as well as a full installation.
 
I've converted a portable to a full install, as well as downloaded the setup file and installed directly with no success.
 
I even used Revo to remove NVDA so that no traces of any app data were behind. Then reinstalled. No good.
 
I've tried this on Windows 7 Home, Windows 7 Pro, Windows 7 Ultimate, all 3 of those, I've tried both with X86 as well as X64.
 
I've tried with Windows 10 Home, Windows 10 Pro, and even had a friend who's a college student try with Windows 10 Education. All of those were tested as well on both X86 and X64. This was reproduced on every single one of those systems 100% consistently.
 
Before anyone asks the obvious, yes, num lock was disabled. I'm not that far gone.
 
I looked through the diag logs and saw nothing that indicated what the problem was.
 
I checked for an NVDA update and found nothing.
 
I installed the snapshot next branch and had the same problem.
 
I tested with JAWS to be sure it wasn't something screwy in general going on with my insert key, but in JFW, it works flawlessly, plus the fact it's happenning on more than one system...
 
I even was so desperet, I tried with XP Pro, and that even was reproducible.
 
What gives!
 
Chris.




--
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Training and Support Manager

Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

www.nvaccess.org 
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Re: Incredibly odd problem with the NVDA modifier key

Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...>
 


Absolutely nothing. It works fine though if I use caps lock.
---
Christopher Gilland
Co-founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2017 7:54 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Incredibly odd problem with the NVDA modifier key

Interesting, I haven't seen that.  If you press NVDA+1 to go into input help mode, what does NVDA report when you then press the numpad insert key?

On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 9:11 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...> wrote:
OK, this makes no sense, and I'm highly surprised that no one has seen it, given the fact I've reproduced it on about 6 different computers here, and have also had about 5 of my other friends reproduce it as well.
 
Ever since updating to NVDA 2017.2, my numpad insert key has completely stopped working as the NVDA modifier.
 
I looked in the keyboard preferences and both caps lock and numpad insert are checked. I've unchecked and re, checked both checkboxes individually as well as at the same time. I've restarted NVDA, I've rebooted, I've unloaded all plugins and simply reinstalled from a fresh copy with not a single addon running, and all default stock settings.
 
I've tried with both a portable copy, as well as a full installation.
 
I've converted a portable to a full install, as well as downloaded the setup file and installed directly with no success.
 
I even used Revo to remove NVDA so that no traces of any app data were behind. Then reinstalled. No good.
 
I've tried this on Windows 7 Home, Windows 7 Pro, Windows 7 Ultimate, all 3 of those, I've tried both with X86 as well as X64.
 
I've tried with Windows 10 Home, Windows 10 Pro, and even had a friend who's a college student try with Windows 10 Education. All of those were tested as well on both X86 and X64. This was reproduced on every single one of those systems 100% consistently.
 
Before anyone asks the obvious, yes, num lock was disabled. I'm not that far gone.
 
I looked through the diag logs and saw nothing that indicated what the problem was.
 
I checked for an NVDA update and found nothing.
 
I installed the snapshot next branch and had the same problem.
 
I tested with JAWS to be sure it wasn't something screwy in general going on with my insert key, but in JFW, it works flawlessly, plus the fact it's happenning on more than one system...
 
I even was so desperet, I tried with XP Pro, and that even was reproducible.
 
What gives!
 
Chris.




--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

www.nvaccess.org 
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Twitter: @NVAccess 


Re: Incredibly odd problem with the NVDA modifier key

Quentin Christensen
 

Interesting, I haven't seen that.  If you press NVDA+1 to go into input help mode, what does NVDA report when you then press the numpad insert key?

On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 9:11 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...> wrote:
OK, this makes no sense, and I'm highly surprised that no one has seen it, given the fact I've reproduced it on about 6 different computers here, and have also had about 5 of my other friends reproduce it as well.
 
Ever since updating to NVDA 2017.2, my numpad insert key has completely stopped working as the NVDA modifier.
 
I looked in the keyboard preferences and both caps lock and numpad insert are checked. I've unchecked and re, checked both checkboxes individually as well as at the same time. I've restarted NVDA, I've rebooted, I've unloaded all plugins and simply reinstalled from a fresh copy with not a single addon running, and all default stock settings.
 
I've tried with both a portable copy, as well as a full installation.
 
I've converted a portable to a full install, as well as downloaded the setup file and installed directly with no success.
 
I even used Revo to remove NVDA so that no traces of any app data were behind. Then reinstalled. No good.
 
I've tried this on Windows 7 Home, Windows 7 Pro, Windows 7 Ultimate, all 3 of those, I've tried both with X86 as well as X64.
 
I've tried with Windows 10 Home, Windows 10 Pro, and even had a friend who's a college student try with Windows 10 Education. All of those were tested as well on both X86 and X64. This was reproduced on every single one of those systems 100% consistently.
 
Before anyone asks the obvious, yes, num lock was disabled. I'm not that far gone.
 
I looked through the diag logs and saw nothing that indicated what the problem was.
 
I checked for an NVDA update and found nothing.
 
I installed the snapshot next branch and had the same problem.
 
I tested with JAWS to be sure it wasn't something screwy in general going on with my insert key, but in JFW, it works flawlessly, plus the fact it's happenning on more than one system...
 
I even was so desperet, I tried with XP Pro, and that even was reproducible.
 
What gives!
 
Chris.




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Training and Support Manager

Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

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Re: FW: Trying hard to convert to NVDA

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Joseph, Larry,

This was a common issue at one point last year, and we fixed it in NVDA 2016.3.  I had a report of it recently from someone after updating to NVDA 2017.2, but then they advised it disappeared again.  I just had a look myself and couldn't reproduce it on my machine.  I forced Outlook 2016 to check for updates and it did do an update and it still isn't giving that message for me now.

Has anyone else got that "associated drafts, no associated drafts" message lately?

Regards

Quentin.

On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 2:58 AM, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:

Hi everyone,

Can anyone write to Larry privately and see if we can reproduce this? Thanks.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: Larry Honaker [mailto:kc8pdx@...]
Sent: Thursday, June 8, 2017 9:38 AM
To: 'Joseph Lee' <joseph.lee22590@...>
Subject: RE: Trying hard to convert to NVDA

 

It’s installed on a desktop. I just uninstalled and went out and got the latest version, reinstalled.

 

Same results.

lh

 

 

Larry W. Honaker

 

E-mail: kc8pdx@...

 

Skype: doublezero2369

 

From: Joseph Lee [mailto:joseph.lee22590@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 8, 2017 11:45 AM
To: 'Larry Honaker' <kc8pdx@...>
Subject: RE: Trying hard to convert to NVDA

 

Hi,

Is this a portable version of NVDA or an installed copy? If it’s an installed copy, chances are that, somehow, UIA or something underneath isn’t responding well.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: Larry Honaker [mailto:kc8pdx@...]
Sent: Thursday, June 8, 2017 8:19 AM
To: 'Joseph Lee' <joseph.lee22590@...>
Subject: RE: Trying hard to convert to NVDA

 

Thanks Joseph for responding. I do have the latest, 2017.2 loaded.

What else my friend?

Lh

 

 

Larry W. Honaker

 

E-mail: kc8pdx@...

 

Skype: doublezero2369

 

From: Joseph Lee [mailto:joseph.lee22590@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 8, 2017 11:13 AM
To: 'Larry Honaker' <kc8pdx@...>
Subject: RE: Trying hard to convert to NVDA

 

Hi,

Which version of NVDA did you get? To check, press Insert+N, go to Help menu, then go to About and listen carefully. If you have versions other than 2017.2, you should use the new version, as it does not announce “associated draft” and similar messages.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: Larry Honaker [mailto:kc8pdx@...]
Sent: Thursday, June 8, 2017 4:54 AM
To: joseph.lee22590@...
Subject: Trying hard to convert to NVDA

 

Hi Joseph,

 

I am an old dog trying hard to learn new tricks; translation: I have been a JAWS user since the beginning but am now trying hard to convert to NVDA. Other than trying to get a real handle on the object navigation, the real issue I have is when using Outlook 2016.

 

When looking at the list of messages, NVDA has at the beginning of every message:

Associated Draft No Associated Draft. Then the rest of the message header info. I have looked at various settings under NVDA to turn this description off but cannot figure it out.

 

It is very annoying; no other screen reader reports this.

 

Do you have any idea what I can do?

 

Most cordially yours,

 

 

Larry W. Honaker

 

E-mail: kc8pdx@...

 

Skype: doublezero2369

 




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Re: latest Skype update

Arlene
 

That's great! My account for it is completely and totally gone! so is the program! The program that caused me nothing but big fat problems! I hope to never see skype again!

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joshua Hendrickson
Sent: June-08-17 3:33 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] latest Skype update

I have been a skype user for about 9 or 10 years. I don't use it as much as I once did, but I'd never get rid of my skype account. I've got my own skype number and also people can call me with regular telephones if they wanted. I use to use skype for all my phone calls until my computer got a virus last year and I got a very nice flip phone. I recently got a braille not touch and I got skype on that android device. It works pretty well. There is a lot of tabbing you do have to do, but I don't mind it. I have a bunch of favorites set up for the people I call the most and can easily get to the favorites part of my contact list using both the android version of skype and my desktop version. I'll keep my desktop version of skype as long as I can.

On 6/8/17, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@outlook.co.nz> wrote:
hi


There are plenty of us on the list who use Skype for communications to
our friends and family. I guess at times if you do not adapt you get
left behind or find a alternative to do the same job if it is accessible.


I know of plenty of people who just say it is to hard but when they
learn how to use it then they find it quite easy to use Skype.


if they made it totally not usable there would be plenty of people
jumping up and down in the blind community.


Gene nz



On 9/06/2017 9:19 AM, Arlene wrote:

I got rid of it and my skype account in case it does go. if it does I
wont have to worry about it!

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
Sent: June-08-17 3:22 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] latest Skype update

Well you are right, the current skype is junk.

I do have the nvda group on there mainly and I do chat to a few people.

If skype goes, then wellI suppose I will just not use skype at all.

That sucks to be honest.




On 8/06/2017 4:17 p.m., Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:


I haven't used skype in years because I had problems with it.



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: Wednesday, June 7, 2017 8:35 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] latest Skype update

Well, Like I said, Skype is junk!

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
Sent: June-07-17 8:01 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] latest Skype update

Hmph not really, I like skype classic, no skype for me then.




On 6/06/2017 7:36 p.m., Chris wrote:


It looks like they are going to kill off the desktop version of skype
in july

That’s progress I guess ☹














.












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Re: Apple WWDC Keynote

David Moore
 

Amen! I am so happy you are seeing the light! Apple is just patting people on the head and saying, there you go, you poor disabled person, I did this for you to make this accessible. They do not care about the Disabled at all. All they want is money. Now Microsoft, they are begging for our input on making win10 as accessible as it can be. MS really cares about us blind people, and many blind people are employed by Microsoft. Another company who goes out of the way to make the product accessible is Drop Box. They actually train some of their workers to use Drop Box under blind folds. That is how far they go out of the way to be accessible. Apple just wants a pat on the back for making their iPhones and so on accessible right out of the box. Microsoft will knock Apple out of the water someday, I can’t wait to celebrate when they do LOL!

Have a great one, guys!

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Christopher-Mark Gilland
Sent: Thursday, June 8, 2017 6:41 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Apple WWDC Keynote

 

No kidding. I used to be quite an Apple fanatic, but I'm rapidly seeing the light.

---
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Co-founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2017 6:25 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Apple WWDC Keynote

 

I think as an accessability issue to those not into apple its a staring case
of apple centric ism in my view.
 They really need to get themselves sorted.
 Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Alexander Masic" <list@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2017 4:51 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Apple WWDC Keynote


> Hi. I'M not believe this is something wich belong to this list, however i
> will reply anyway.
>
> You are only able to watch WWDC in PC by using EDGE. If you dont't have
> Edge, you must follow it on other platforms. I know... The keynot have
> already been, however you can stil watch it, and there is also other
> stuff, for instans accessibility sesion wich still havebn't been and
> intresteed for us.
>
>
>
>
> Den 2017-06-05 kl. 18:54, skrev Lino Morales:
>> Does anyone know how to watch the keynote with Edge using NVDA? Thanks.
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>


 


Re: Changing the name of say all command

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Anthony,

The command to read to end (called "Say All", even though it reads from the current point onwards, as the thread is talking about), is NVDA+down arrow if you use desktop layout, and NVDA+a in Laptop layout.

Regards

Quentin.

On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 12:20 AM, anthony borg <anthonyborg001@...> wrote:
Hi gene what is the command to speak to end? Or read to end?

Thanks in advance

Anthony

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Andre Fisher
Sent: 08 June 2017 14:02
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Changing the name of say all command

Hi.

Read to end would be more ideal. However, I think this is based on the tradition of the screen reader.

On 6/8/17, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
> Say all is not a proper description of the NVDA key down arrow command.
> That command doesn't say all unless you start at the beginning of a
> document.  It starts to speak or read, from your current position in
> the document.  Also, say all sounds like an adjustment in screen echo.
> The name should be changed to something like read to end, or speak to
> end.  I don't use a Braille display so I don't know if the command would be used there.
> If not, speak to end would be best.
>
> Gene
>









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Incredibly odd problem with the NVDA modifier key

Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...>
 


OK, this makes no sense, and I'm highly surprised that no one has seen it, given the fact I've reproduced it on about 6 different computers here, and have also had about 5 of my other friends reproduce it as well.
 
Ever since updating to NVDA 2017.2, my numpad insert key has completely stopped working as the NVDA modifier.
 
I looked in the keyboard preferences and both caps lock and numpad insert are checked. I've unchecked and re, checked both checkboxes individually as well as at the same time. I've restarted NVDA, I've rebooted, I've unloaded all plugins and simply reinstalled from a fresh copy with not a single addon running, and all default stock settings.
 
I've tried with both a portable copy, as well as a full installation.
 
I've converted a portable to a full install, as well as downloaded the setup file and installed directly with no success.
 
I even used Revo to remove NVDA so that no traces of any app data were behind. Then reinstalled. No good.
 
I've tried this on Windows 7 Home, Windows 7 Pro, Windows 7 Ultimate, all 3 of those, I've tried both with X86 as well as X64.
 
I've tried with Windows 10 Home, Windows 10 Pro, and even had a friend who's a college student try with Windows 10 Education. All of those were tested as well on both X86 and X64. This was reproduced on every single one of those systems 100% consistently.
 
Before anyone asks the obvious, yes, num lock was disabled. I'm not that far gone.
 
I looked through the diag logs and saw nothing that indicated what the problem was.
 
I checked for an NVDA update and found nothing.
 
I installed the snapshot next branch and had the same problem.
 
I tested with JAWS to be sure it wasn't something screwy in general going on with my insert key, but in JFW, it works flawlessly, plus the fact it's happenning on more than one system...
 
I even was so desperet, I tried with XP Pro, and that even was reproducible.
 
What gives!
 
Chris.


Re: latest Skype update

Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...>
 


You wrote:
 
> That’s progress I guess ☹
Not?
 
Chris.


Re: Windows 10: Notifications Repeating Themselves

Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...>
 


No.
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----- Original Message -----
From: Jessica D
Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2017 8:08 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10: Notifications Repeating Themselves

Hi,
Does the notification repitition problem occur with JAWS?


Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 7, 2017, at 5:59 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...> wrote:

Yikes!
---
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----- Original Message -----
From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2017 10:34 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10: Notifications Repeating Themselves

Hi,

It turns out this isn’t a simple matter of releasing a new version: the needed change breaks DictationBridge add-on, specifically for people using Dragon Vocabulary Editor.

Cheers,

Joseph

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland
Sent: Wednesday, June 7, 2017 7:18 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10: Notifications Repeating Themselves

Amen!

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Co-founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries

----- Original Message -----

From: Andre Fisher

Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2017 2:52 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10: Notifications Repeating Themselves

As this issue impacts many users, among other performance issues, I
think that an NVDA 2017.2.1 release is warranted.

On 6/6/17, Ben J. Bloomgren <bbloomgren@...> wrote:
> For me, at least, the creators update has seemed to fix the problem. It had
> done that for me before I upgraded, but now it doesn’t seem to repeat
> notifications as it had done before. I’ll monitor.
>
> Ben
>
> From: Rob
> Sent: Monday, June 5, 2017 18:00
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10: Notifications Repeating Themselves
>
> Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:
>> Is this on Creators Update only or on other builds?
>
> This is creator update for me, just installed two days ago.
> Version 1703 (OS Build 15063.332)
>
>
>
>
>


Re: Apple WWDC Keynote

Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...>
 


No kidding. I used to be quite an Apple fanatic, but I'm rapidly seeing the light.
---
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Co-founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2017 6:25 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Apple WWDC Keynote

I think as an accessability issue to those not into apple its a staring case
of apple centric ism in my view.
 They really need to get themselves sorted.
 Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Alexander Masic" <list@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2017 4:51 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Apple WWDC Keynote


> Hi. I'M not believe this is something wich belong to this list, however i
> will reply anyway.
>
> You are only able to watch WWDC in PC by using EDGE. If you dont't have
> Edge, you must follow it on other platforms. I know... The keynot have
> already been, however you can stil watch it, and there is also other
> stuff, for instans accessibility sesion wich still havebn't been and
> intresteed for us.
>
>
>
>
> Den 2017-06-05 kl. 18:54, skrev Lino Morales:
>> Does anyone know how to watch the keynote with Edge using NVDA? Thanks.
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>




Re: Apple WWDC Keynote

Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...>
 


Why on earth does it have to be Edge? That's stupid as hell!
---
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Co-founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, June 05, 2017 11:51 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Apple WWDC Keynote

Hi. I'M not believe this is something wich belong to this list, however
i will reply anyway.

You are only able to watch WWDC in PC by using EDGE. If you dont't have
Edge, you must follow it on other platforms. I know... The keynot have
already been, however you can stil watch it, and there is also other
stuff, for instans accessibility sesion wich still havebn't been and
intresteed for us.




Den 2017-06-05 kl. 18:54, skrev Lino Morales:
> Does anyone know how to watch the keynote with Edge using NVDA? Thanks.
>
>
>
>




Re: latest Skype update

Joshua Hendrickson
 

I have been a skype user for about 9 or 10 years. I don't use it as
much as I once did, but I'd never get rid of my skype account. I've
got my own skype number and also people can call me with regular
telephones if they wanted. I use to use skype for all my phone calls
until my computer got a virus last year and I got a very nice flip
phone. I recently got a braille not touch and I got skype on that
android device. It works pretty well. There is a lot of tabbing you
do have to do, but I don't mind it. I have a bunch of favorites set
up for the people I call the most and can easily get to the favorites
part of my contact list using both the android version of skype and my
desktop version. I'll keep my desktop version of skype as long as I
can.

On 6/8/17, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@outlook.co.nz> wrote:
hi


There are plenty of us on the list who use Skype for communications to our
friends and family. I guess at times if you do not adapt you get left behind
or find a alternative to do the same job if it is accessible.


I know of plenty of people who just say it is to hard but when they learn
how to use it then they find it quite easy to use Skype.


if they made it totally not usable there would be plenty of people jumping
up and down in the blind community.


Gene nz



On 9/06/2017 9:19 AM, Arlene wrote:

I got rid of it and my skype account in case it does go. if it does I wont
have to worry about it!

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
Sent: June-08-17 3:22 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] latest Skype update

Well you are right, the current skype is junk.

I do have the nvda group on there mainly and I do chat to a few people.

If skype goes, then wellI suppose I will just not use skype at all.

That sucks to be honest.




On 8/06/2017 4:17 p.m., Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:


I haven't used skype in years because I had problems with it.



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Arlene
Sent: Wednesday, June 7, 2017 8:35 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] latest Skype update

Well, Like I said, Skype is junk!

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Shaun Everiss
Sent: June-07-17 8:01 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] latest Skype update

Hmph not really, I like skype classic, no skype for me then.




On 6/06/2017 7:36 p.m., Chris wrote:


It looks like they are going to kill off the desktop version of skype
in july

That’s progress I guess ☹














.












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screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or
location) is near to you please visit
http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa
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Re: latest Skype update

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

hi


There are plenty of us on the list who use Skype for communications to our friends and family. I guess at times if you do not adapt you get left behind or find a alternative to do the same job if it is accessible.


I know of plenty of people who just say it is to hard but when they learn how to use it then they find it quite easy to use Skype.


if they made it totally not usable there would be plenty of people jumping up and down in the blind community.


Gene nz




On 9/06/2017 9:19 AM, Arlene wrote:
I got rid of it and my skype account in case it does go. if it does I wont have to worry about it!

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
Sent: June-08-17 3:22 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] latest Skype update

Well you are right, the current skype is junk.

I do have the nvda group on there mainly and I do chat to a few people.

If skype goes, then wellI suppose I will just not use skype at all.

That sucks to be honest.




On 8/06/2017 4:17 p.m., Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
I haven't used skype in years because I had problems with it.



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of 
Arlene
Sent: Wednesday, June 7, 2017 8:35 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] latest Skype update

Well, Like I said, Skype is junk!

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of 
Shaun Everiss
Sent: June-07-17 8:01 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] latest Skype update

Hmph not really, I like skype classic, no skype for me then.




On 6/06/2017 7:36 p.m., Chris wrote:
It looks like they are going to kill off the desktop version of skype 
in july

That’s progress I guess ☹











.








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Re: latest Skype update

Arlene
 

Mine too! Well, I got rid of it and my account. Wont have to worry about it!

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian's Mail list account
Sent: June-08-17 12:45 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] latest Skype update

It used to screw up all my sound card settings every time I tried to use it.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Arlene" <nedster66@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2017 4:34 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] latest Skype update


Hi, is this for win ten? I never go on skype. It never worked properly for
me. I’m glad it works okay for you blind folk. But for me, Skype is junk!
Loll. I had nothing but problems with it. Even with my first xp box. I
baught mike after mike because people complained they could not hear me. Or
I was too loud. With this 7 box same thing. people could not hear me. So,
I just gave up on it.



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene New
Zealand
Sent: June-07-17 8:06 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] latest Skype update



When i had a quick look at the metro style version of skype it seemed fairly
accessible, but will have to play with it a little more.



I was able to make a test call etc but seemed along the lines of the classic
version.



Gene nz

On 8/06/2017 3:00 PM, Shaun Everiss wrote:

Hmph not really, I like skype classic, no skype for me then.




On 6/06/2017 7:36 p.m., Chris wrote:



It looks like they are going to kill off the desktop version of skype in
july

That’s progress I guess ☹











--
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Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material
at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New
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screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or
location) is near to you please visit
http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa
People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please
visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The
certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals
from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert
exam.


Re: latest Skype update

Arlene
 

I got rid of it and my skype account in case it does go. if it does I wont have to worry about it!

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
Sent: June-08-17 3:22 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] latest Skype update

Well you are right, the current skype is junk.

I do have the nvda group on there mainly and I do chat to a few people.

If skype goes, then wellI suppose I will just not use skype at all.

That sucks to be honest.




On 8/06/2017 4:17 p.m., Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
I haven't used skype in years because I had problems with it.



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Arlene
Sent: Wednesday, June 7, 2017 8:35 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] latest Skype update

Well, Like I said, Skype is junk!

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Shaun Everiss
Sent: June-07-17 8:01 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] latest Skype update

Hmph not really, I like skype classic, no skype for me then.




On 6/06/2017 7:36 p.m., Chris wrote:
It looks like they are going to kill off the desktop version of skype
in july

That’s progress I guess ☹










.