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Re: Another possible browser alternative, vivaldi

Brian's Mail list account BY <bglists@...>
 

Which engine is it based on I wonder, and why is it written. is it supposed to be for a specific purpose?In my view unless it can have ad blocking its pointless to us.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene New Zealand" <hurrikennyandopo@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 8:05 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Another possible browser alternative, vivaldi


Hi Jacob


Just found your email and downloaded the browser to take it for a quick test drive. it seems pretty useable and also lets you use most quick navigation keys. I was able to go to different pages and go back to the main one etc


I have not had a look under the settings etc but it seem to speak out menus etc as wewll as the web content.


I wonder if others users have taken it for a test drive and what do they think of it as well, should it be added to the list of useable browsers it seems very likely. so far.


Gene nz


On 6/07/2016 8:10 PM, Jacob Kruger wrote:
Seems this browser uses something like some of chrome's elements to render actual web content, and just gave it a very quick try, but, the main reason is since, according the wired.com review came across of it, it's highly customisable in terms of most of it's interface - haven't had a chance to try too much of that as of yet, but, yes, could browse the 'net with it, and, while don't know many keyboard shortcuts - think you can also customise them, it seems usable:
http://www.vivaldi.com/

Stay well

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."



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Re: To all xp users who were running dropbox

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Well, I did not download it on two of the machines as they were still downloading the updates from dropbox, but one thing may be important as on one machine where the program had been uninstalled I used an old copy of the offline installer, ie not the stub based on normally used. This installed and worked and updated itself to the latest version
The other point of course is that all my machines do have the registry moddification to allow windows and msse updates till 2019, though it calls them by a different name. The operating system still identifies itself as xp though.
I have not had time to test this again today, but its worked for a da few days so far.

Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Arno Schuh" <@menschomat>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 10:19 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox


Would you please explain how this works? Do you downloaded the actual desktop client from the Dropbox site?
And when I start the client, entering my user and pass I still get a message that tells me that Windows XP no longer is supported - and that's it. The client don't let me in.

Yours sincerely

Arno

Am Montag, 12. September 2016 18:51 schrieb Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>:

I have just explained how I got it to work again in another post, but
to be honest I'm not sure which step was the important one. My guess
is the version of the new desktop client which now allows xp again
when it did not a few days ago.
Oversight or deliberate I've come up empty on their web site and I'm
certainly not going to tell them its working.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Igor Kaplan" <igorkaplan45@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 11:05 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox


Mike,

Mike,



So, I don’t really understand, why did you bother to write the
message below, and it is not a first message for the same subject.

You did not give any details, you don’t give any links, how to make
the machine working on windows xp, you keep saying, “it works”. Well,
don’t you fill, everyone is very happy for you already, and every
time when someone having problem with windows xp he or she will think
about you and fill much better.



Do you think, it is a good time to volunteer little more
information, how about some details? Beside giving an exact date
since which you still under windows xp.

Give some thoughts.



Sincerely



Igor





From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Michael Capelle
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 9:10 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox



yes, it sure can be used, i have been using it this way since the 31
of aug.


From: Gene <mailto:gsasner@...>

Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 8:06 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox



I was able to log in using your procedure. It appears that I can use
Drop Box though I haven't done any testing to be sure that it works
properly after I log in. It treated my login as though Drop Box were
on a new machine and took awhile to index the files I already had in
the Drop Box folder on my machine. But after awhile, it changed its
system tray message to up to date. So it appears that even though
Drop box sent messages saying it can't be used with XP any longer, it
may be able to be.


GGene

----- Original Message -----

From: Gene <mailto:gsasner@...>

Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 7:06 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox



And what happens when you close the program and run it again or when
you do the same thing by rebooting?



Perhaps there is a bugg in the Drop Box system that allows you to use
the program in this way but it is not what is intended. I received
two messages before the termination date telling me that the program
can't be used and you can't log in using the program itself. If you
can do so using the procedure you gave, that would be useful to know.
But I doubt it is just a one time procedure. I suspect you have to
do so every time you close and reopen the program or every time you
do the equivalent by rebooting.


Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Michael Capelle <mailto:mcapelle@...>

Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 6:57 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox



u r not getting i t, when u launch db for the first time, it takes
you to the page in the browser, u log into it, db then starts
normally and logs u in.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 6:55 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox


Yes, it takes you to exactly the same web page you can go to if you go
directly to the site itself by opening your browser and going there
directly. You are logging into use Drop Box with your browser. You
are not using the Drop Box desktop program. All you are doing is
using control g to have the program run your default browser and open
the login page. If you look in the system tray, you will see that
the program says starting and it never progresses. You can't use the
desktop program to access Send Space other than to have it open the
login page in your browser and that you can do directly in your
browser.
Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Michael Capelle
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 6:44 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox


yes, u can, it will say press control plus g to log in, it takes you
to a web page to log in.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 6:39 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox


I'm not sure what you are describing. You have to log in using the
Drop Box desktop program as far as I know. You can't log in using a
browser and then use the desk top program without logging in with
that program.
Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Michael Capelle
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 6:25 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox


i ran the ninite file, and it installed db, than i ran mozilla
firefox to log in, and had no issues.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 6:22 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox


I don't know why it is working forMike. It doesn't work here with XP
and I haven't heard anything indicating that it works in general. Perhaps there is something about Mike's machine that isn't standard.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Arlene
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 4:07 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox


I can't believe Drop box still works for xp. I'm glad it still does
for those who use it. My xp box died a long time ago! My very first
xp box quit serving me when I started using jaws 11. It couldn’t
handle it. I had to give it to a sighted user. Yes, with it I had
drop box. I was going into chat rooms that used tc conference. The
second box I got from a friend. it died shortly after I got my 7 box
witch I still have. I'm happy with 7. If I get or end up with ten so
be it.
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Michael Capelle
Sent: September-11-16 11:38 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox

oh my gosh dude, chill the f*** out, everyone is different.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lino Morales" <linomorales001@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 12:49 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox


Yeah but the majority of folks on heredon't use them POS machines?
No. I've got nothing else to say. Happy fanagaling guys.


On 9/11/2016 1:29 PM, Antony Stone wrote:
Lino, there's no need to take that sort of tone, especially when
you're wrong.

It is possible to adjust Windows XP so that it gets updates
intended for Point
of Sale (POS) terminals, and these continue until April 9th, 2019.

You may not wish to continue using Windows XP yourself, but please
don't be so
abusive (or misinformed) towards those who do, and who know what
they're doing
to keep it going.


Antony.

On Sunday 11 Sep 2016 at 18:05, Lino Morales wrote:

Say what? Where the hell did you hear this from MR.
Bryian.uk.co.missinformed? Supported officially ended for XP on
APR. 2014. Its high time you all get off the XP trainwreck.
Dropbox did indeed end their support. Fanagle it to work to your
little hearts content.

On 9/11/2016 6:32 AM, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
Actually it will let you in with a very old version, but not if
its running on xp.
It obviously detects the operating system. They have sent out many
messages from well over a month ago warning people about this and
it did actually last an extra day. I see now they are claiming
that its a security issue with xp as its not been updated for
over two years, however many of us do have xp updates till 2019,
and really should not be all shoved together with the great
unwashed as it seems xp users are seen these days.

Brian

----- Original Message ----- From: "Arno Schuh"
<@menschomat>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 10:47 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox

Hi,

the update of Dropbox is pushed by one or more entries in
scheduled tasks. So it would be possible to stop the Dropbox
client to update itself. But as I wrote in my last mail - it
didn't matter. Dropbox didn't let you in with an old version of
the client. Yours sincerely

Arno

























Microsoft Word with NVDA by NV Access now available

Quentin Christensen
 

NV Access is very pleased to announce the release of "Microsoft Word with NVDA", the official training material for Microsoft Word with NVDA. It covers concepts from getting started with Word through to use of advanced features such as customising the status ribbon and running macros.

Available from: http://www.nvaccess.org/product/microsoft-word-training-for-nvda/ initially in eBook formats (Braille and audio to follow) for AUD $30 (+ $3 GST in Australia).


Microsoft Word with NVDA is the second module in the official set of training materials for learning to use the free NVDA screen reader. Suitable for the new and existing user of Microsoft Word wishing to improve proficiency. This module assumes that the user has completed the “Basic Training for NVDA” module, or has equivalent knowledge.

Topics covered include: Getting started with Microsoft Word, proofreading, styles, tables, page layout, referencing, inserting, collaboration and sharing and customising Word options. Formats included in this package: ePub, HTML, Word Docx and Mobi (Kindle).

The purchase price of this product supports the work of NV Access and our ability to provide the NVDA screen reading software free of charge.

If you would like to sample the style of the material prior to purchasing, we have made an extract of the Basic Training for NVDA module freely available on our website, http://www.nvaccess.org/.


--
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Training Material Developer
Basic Training for NVDA E-Book now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Direct: +61 413 904 383
www.nvaccess.org 
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Twitter: @NVAccess 


Re: Another possible browser alternative, vivaldi

Kenny Dog <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi Jacob


Just found your email and downloaded the browser to take it for a quick test drive. it seems pretty useable and also lets you use most quick navigation keys. I was able to go to different pages and go back to the main one etc


I have not had a look under the settings etc but it seem to speak out menus etc as wewll as the web content.


I wonder if others users have taken it for a test drive and what do they think of it as well, should it be added to the list of useable browsers it seems very likely. so far.


Gene nz


On 6/07/2016 8:10 PM, Jacob Kruger wrote:
Seems this browser uses something like some of chrome's elements to render actual web content, and just gave it a very quick try, but, the main reason is since, according the wired.com review came across of it, it's highly customisable in terms of most of it's interface - haven't had a chance to try too much of that as of yet, but, yes, could browse the 'net with it, and, while don't know many keyboard shortcuts - think you can also customise them, it seems usable:
 
Stay well

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."

-- 
Check out my website for nvda tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net


Re: To all xp users who were running dropbox

Arno Schuh
 

Would you please explain how this works? Do you downloaded the actual desktop client from the Dropbox site?
And when I start the client, entering my user and pass I still get a message that tells me that Windows XP no longer is supported - and that's it. The client don't let me in.

Yours sincerely

Arno

Am Montag, 12. September 2016 18:51 schrieb Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>:

I have just explained how I got it to work again in another post, but
to be honest I'm not sure which step was the important one. My guess
is the version of the new desktop client which now allows xp again
when it did not a few days ago.
Oversight or deliberate I've come up empty on their web site and I'm
certainly not going to tell them its working.
Brian

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Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Igor Kaplan" <igorkaplan45@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 11:05 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox


Mike,

Mike,



So, I don’t really understand, why did you bother to write the
message below, and it is not a first message for the same subject.

You did not give any details, you don’t give any links, how to make
the machine working on windows xp, you keep saying, “it works”. Well,
don’t you fill, everyone is very happy for you already, and every
time when someone having problem with windows xp he or she will think
about you and fill much better.



Do you think, it is a good time to volunteer little more
information, how about some details? Beside giving an exact date
since which you still under windows xp.

Give some thoughts.



Sincerely



Igor





From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Michael Capelle
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 9:10 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox



yes, it sure can be used, i have been using it this way since the 31
of aug.


From: Gene <mailto:gsasner@...>

Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 8:06 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox



I was able to log in using your procedure. It appears that I can use
Drop Box though I haven't done any testing to be sure that it works
properly after I log in. It treated my login as though Drop Box were
on a new machine and took awhile to index the files I already had in
the Drop Box folder on my machine. But after awhile, it changed its
system tray message to up to date. So it appears that even though
Drop box sent messages saying it can't be used with XP any longer, it
may be able to be.


GGene

----- Original Message -----

From: Gene <mailto:gsasner@...>

Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 7:06 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox



And what happens when you close the program and run it again or when
you do the same thing by rebooting?



Perhaps there is a bugg in the Drop Box system that allows you to use
the program in this way but it is not what is intended. I received
two messages before the termination date telling me that the program
can't be used and you can't log in using the program itself. If you
can do so using the procedure you gave, that would be useful to know.
But I doubt it is just a one time procedure. I suspect you have to
do so every time you close and reopen the program or every time you
do the equivalent by rebooting.


Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Michael Capelle <mailto:mcapelle@...>

Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 6:57 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox



u r not getting i t, when u launch db for the first time, it takes
you to the page in the browser, u log into it, db then starts
normally and logs u in.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 6:55 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox


Yes, it takes you to exactly the same web page you can go to if you go
directly to the site itself by opening your browser and going there
directly. You are logging into use Drop Box with your browser. You
are not using the Drop Box desktop program. All you are doing is
using control g to have the program run your default browser and open
the login page. If you look in the system tray, you will see that
the program says starting and it never progresses. You can't use the
desktop program to access Send Space other than to have it open the
login page in your browser and that you can do directly in your
browser.
Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Michael Capelle
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 6:44 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox


yes, u can, it will say press control plus g to log in, it takes you
to a web page to log in.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 6:39 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox


I'm not sure what you are describing. You have to log in using the
Drop Box desktop program as far as I know. You can't log in using a
browser and then use the desk top program without logging in with
that program.
Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Michael Capelle
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 6:25 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox


i ran the ninite file, and it installed db, than i ran mozilla
firefox to log in, and had no issues.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 6:22 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox


I don't know why it is working forMike. It doesn't work here with XP
and I haven't heard anything indicating that it works in general. Perhaps there is something about Mike's machine that isn't standard.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Arlene
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 4:07 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox


I can't believe Drop box still works for xp. I'm glad it still does
for those who use it. My xp box died a long time ago! My very first
xp box quit serving me when I started using jaws 11. It couldn’t
handle it. I had to give it to a sighted user. Yes, with it I had
drop box. I was going into chat rooms that used tc conference. The
second box I got from a friend. it died shortly after I got my 7 box
witch I still have. I'm happy with 7. If I get or end up with ten so
be it.
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Michael Capelle
Sent: September-11-16 11:38 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox

oh my gosh dude, chill the f*** out, everyone is different.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lino Morales" <linomorales001@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 12:49 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox


Yeah but the majority of folks on heredon't use them POS machines?
No. I've got nothing else to say. Happy fanagaling guys.


On 9/11/2016 1:29 PM, Antony Stone wrote:
Lino, there's no need to take that sort of tone, especially when
you're wrong.

It is possible to adjust Windows XP so that it gets updates
intended for Point
of Sale (POS) terminals, and these continue until April 9th, 2019.

You may not wish to continue using Windows XP yourself, but please
don't be so
abusive (or misinformed) towards those who do, and who know what
they're doing
to keep it going.


Antony.

On Sunday 11 Sep 2016 at 18:05, Lino Morales wrote:

Say what? Where the hell did you hear this from MR.
Bryian.uk.co.missinformed? Supported officially ended for XP on
APR. 2014. Its high time you all get off the XP trainwreck.
Dropbox did indeed end their support. Fanagle it to work to your
little hearts content.

On 9/11/2016 6:32 AM, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
Actually it will let you in with a very old version, but not if
its running on xp.
It obviously detects the operating system. They have sent out many
messages from well over a month ago warning people about this and
it did actually last an extra day. I see now they are claiming
that its a security issue with xp as its not been updated for
over two years, however many of us do have xp updates till 2019,
and really should not be all shoved together with the great
unwashed as it seems xp users are seen these days.

Brian

----- Original Message ----- From: "Arno Schuh"
<@menschomat>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 10:47 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox

Hi,

the update of Dropbox is pushed by one or more entries in
scheduled tasks. So it would be possible to stop the Dropbox
client to update itself. But as I wrote in my last mail - it
didn't matter. Dropbox didn't let you in with an old version of
the client. Yours sincerely

Arno























Re: Post your questions.

derek riemer
 

The website didn't come in as a link.

http://us-con.nvda-community.org


On 9/12/2016 12:08 PM, derek riemer wrote:

Hello all:

NVDACon U.S. (The conference for NVDA users in North America) is happening this weekend!!!!
We have selected 3 panelists who will be announced publicly soon. I would like to extend an invitation to the NVDA community to present questions you would like the panelists to answer. If you have a question for our panelists, feel free to either post it here, or send an email to the following address. us+owner@nvdacon.groups.io

The planning committee will vote on the best questions on Wednesday night at 9 eastern, so please send the questions before then if you would like your question included in the question-off.

Cheers,
Derek
NVDACon U.S. Website:
us-con.nvda-community.org
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  • Department of computer science, third year undergraduate student.
  • Proud user of the NVDA screen reader.
  • Open source enthusiast.
  • Member of Bridge Cu
  • Avid skiier.

Websites:
Honors portfolio
Awesome little hand built weather app!

email me at derek.riemer@...
Phone: (303) 906-2194


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  • Department of computer science, third year undergraduate student.
  • Proud user of the NVDA screen reader.
  • Open source enthusiast.
  • Member of Bridge Cu
  • Avid skiier.

Websites:
Honors portfolio
Awesome little hand built weather app!

email me at derek.riemer@...
Phone: (303) 906-2194


Post your questions.

derek riemer
 

Hello all:

NVDACon U.S. (The conference for NVDA users in North America) is happening this weekend!!!!
We have selected 3 panelists who will be announced publicly soon. I would like to extend an invitation to the NVDA community to present questions you would like the panelists to answer. If you have a question for our panelists, feel free to either post it here, or send an email to the following address. us+owner@nvdacon.groups.io

The planning committee will vote on the best questions on Wednesday night at 9 eastern, so please send the questions before then if you would like your question included in the question-off.

Cheers,
Derek
NVDACon U.S. Website:
us-con.nvda-community.org
--


Derek Riemer

  • Department of computer science, third year undergraduate student.
  • Proud user of the NVDA screen reader.
  • Open source enthusiast.
  • Member of Bridge Cu
  • Avid skiier.

Websites:
Honors portfolio
Awesome little hand built weather app!

email me at derek.riemer@...
Phone: (303) 906-2194


Re: windows 10 offer for those using accessability

Chris Mullins
 

Thanks for this.  My hardware is a little older, although I don’t know of anyone in this area who has received the update automatically.

 

Cheers

Chris  

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: 12 September 2016 12:21
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] windows 10 offer for those using accessability

 

Hi Chris,

 

The Windows 10 upgrade for those using assistive technology is available here: https://www.microsoft.com/en-au/accessibility/windows10upgrade

 

Also re the anniversary update, if you haven't got it yet, there are several reasons why that might be.  A post on How to Geek has a few answers: http://www.howtogeek.com/270846/why-your-pc-hasnt-received-the-latest-windows-update-yet-and-how-to-get-it/

 

The main reasons are likely:

- You only recently upgraded to Windows 10, or the previous big update

- You have updates set to deferred on your system

- Your hardware is a bit older - Microsoft is rolling the update out slower to some hardware configurations to keep an eye on any potential problems.

 

In any case, according to the article:

 

"Either head to Settings > Update & Security > Windows Update > Learn More or just visit the Windows 10 update history web page. Click the “Get the Anniversary Update Now” link here and download the tool provided by Microsoft.

Run the Windows 10 Update Assistant and it will automatically download and install the Anniversary Update on your PC, even if it isn’t being offered through Windows Update at the moment."

 

Regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 9:04 PM, Chris Mullins <cjmullins29@...> wrote:

Hi

I still have not had the anniversary update and have not found any details of the Windows  10 offer for people using accessibility.  I have a friend who would like to update to W10 so could you please provide a link to the offer details and installer download?

 

Cheers

Chris

nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Isaac
Sent: 12 September 2016 05:20
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] windows 10 offer for those using accessability

 

Hi, had downloaded the installer for those using accessability after the aniversery update was over, but it keeps saying can't connect.

Please help



 

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Re: Windows 10 upgrade for assistive technology users

Chris Mullins
 

Thanks for this. Do you know if there is a download for the compatibility
checker which was available prior to running the original free upgrade?

Cheers
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian
Crabtree
Sent: 12 September 2016 12:20
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Windows 10 upgrade for assistive technology users

The link to the Windows 10 accessibility upgrade process is below - you may
have to paste it into your browser.
The page which the link opens has an "Upgrade now" button near the bottom.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/accessibility/windows10upgrade


Re: Gaining focus on the System Tray area of the Taskbar with NVDA

 

Chris,

           Thanks for the additional details.   I still tend to use ALT+TAB to go through the running applications but there is the advantage to WinKey+T that you don't shift focus until/unless you hit Enter and that you don't have to keep the WinKey held down.

            Most of my stuff is in the overflow area because it's not critical and I don't want the notifications area to have anything in it that I don't personally find essential to know about.
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Re: Gaining focus on the System Tray area of the Taskbar with NVDA

Chris Mullins
 

Its Windows+t for the running applications side of the task bar and Windows+b for the system tray side. Easy to remember TB = Task Bar! Note when you land in the system tray you should press enter on the Notifications chevron button then use the arrow keys to view details of background services that are running in the background. This is called the overflow notifications toolbar.

Cheers
Chris

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Sent: 12 September 2016 17:59
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Gaining focus on the System Tray area of the Taskbar with NVDA

Well I'm not having any issues here.
Brian

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Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 4:46 PM
Subject: [nvda] Gaining focus on the System Tray area of the Taskbar with NVDA


Hello All,

I'm having one of those mornings where I simply cannot pull up the keyboard sequence that would cause focus to be thrown on to the system tray area where the notification chevron and all the icons you elect to keep permanently visible in the system tray are located.

For all I know this may be a Windows 10 keyboard shortcut, but it's not documented in their online list and I can't find anything immediately useful in the printed version of NVDA commands from release 2015.4. I can't imagine this would have changed since 2015.4, but perhaps it has.

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Re: Gaining focus on the System Tray area of the Taskbar with NVDA

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Well I'm not having any issues here.
Brian

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Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 4:46 PM
Subject: [nvda] Gaining focus on the System Tray area of the Taskbar with NVDA


Hello All,

I'm having one of those mornings where I simply cannot pull up the keyboard sequence that would cause focus to be thrown on to the system tray area where the notification chevron and all the icons you elect to keep permanently visible in the system tray are located.

For all I know this may be a Windows 10 keyboard shortcut, but it's not documented in their online list and I can't find anything immediately useful in the printed version of NVDA commands from release 2015.4. I can't imagine this would have changed since 2015.4, but perhaps it has.

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Re: NVDA and LibreOffice

 

hi walmir.
i completely agree with you and sincerely admire your sentences.
In every update of NVDA I see improvements relating to MS Office, but
nothing related with LibreOffice.
I think that since someone is using a free screen reader, it is clear
he will probably use a free office suite. So why LibreOffice is not a
priority?
because nvda has no improvements for libreoffice openoffice i use
version 2015.4
because in this version nvda says the selection when we select line by line.
but in previous versions, sometimes told selected and sometimes did
not say anything!
i realy advocate of opensource software and wish that use these kind
without any problem!

On 9/12/16, Joseph Lee <@joslee> wrote:
Hi,

Last time I tried talking to LO folks, it wasn’t successful (no replies to
an email I sent regarding possible collaboration).

Cheers,

Joseph



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Robert
Kingett
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 9:08 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and LibreOffice



I agree. I was curious if te NV access team was gonna work with the LO
accessibility team but my guess is we have NVDA folk on the LO team already?
I hope so! I use LO more than MSW myself.



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Re: NVDA and LibreOffice

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Maybe t needs a few improvements in its info sent to screenreaders for those improvements to work, like some way to know when its got to read past a paragraph mark for example.
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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 12:37 PM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and LibreOffice


Hi,

I am using LibreOffice 5.2.0.4 and NVDA 2016.3.
In other versions of both applications, I've found various problems and strange behaviors.
To site only one example: in a cell in Calc I have a formula with gives me a result that is formatted with three places at right of the decimal point; NVDA reads much more than the three digits, but when I copy the result to clipboard with CTRL+C and call NVDA+C, NVDA reads the contents of the clipboard, wich is the number withe three digits at the right of the decimal point.
In every update of NVDA I see improvements relating to MS Office, but nothing related with LibreOffice.
I think that since someone is using a free screen reader, it is clear he will probably use a free office suite. So why LibreOffice is not a priority?

Best regards.
Walmir


Re: windows 10 offer for those using accessability

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Which is what I did and it did it all for me, but toolk a couple of hours.
I'm not updating 7 on this machine though.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Quentin Christensen" <quentin@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 12:21 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] windows 10 offer for those using accessability


Hi Chris,

The Windows 10 upgrade for those using assistive technology is available
here: https://www.microsoft.com/en-au/accessibility/windows10upgrade

Also re the anniversary update, if you haven't got it yet, there are
several reasons why that might be. A post on How to Geek has a few
answers:
http://www.howtogeek.com/270846/why-your-pc-hasnt-received-the-latest-windows-update-yet-and-how-to-get-it/

The main reasons are likely:
- You only recently upgraded to Windows 10, or the previous big update
- You have updates set to deferred on your system
- Your hardware is a bit older - Microsoft is rolling the update out slower
to some hardware configurations to keep an eye on any potential problems.

In any case, according to the article:

"Either head to Settings > Update & Security > Windows Update > Learn More
or just visit the Windows 10 update history web page
<https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/12387/windows-10-update-history>.
Click the “Get the Anniversary Update Now” link here and download the tool
provided by Microsoft.

Run the Windows 10 Update Assistant and it will automatically download and
install the Anniversary Update on your PC, even if it isn’t being offered
through Windows Update at the moment."


Regards


Quentin.

On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 9:04 PM, Chris Mullins <cjmullins29@...>
wrote:

Hi

I still have not had the anniversary update and have not found any details
of the Windows 10 offer for people using accessibility. I have a friend
who would like to update to W10 so could you please provide a link to the
offer details and installer download?



Cheers

Chris

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*Sent:* 12 September 2016 05:20
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* [nvda] windows 10 offer for those using accessability



Hi, had downloaded the installer for those using accessability after the
aniversery update was over, but it keeps saying can't connect.

Please help




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Re: To all xp users who were running dropbox

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I have just explained how I got it to work again in another post, but to be honest I'm not sure which step was the important one. My guess is the version of the new desktop client which now allows xp again when it did not a few days ago.
Oversight or deliberate I've come up empty on their web site and I'm certainly not going to tell them its working.
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Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 11:05 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox


Mike,

Mike,



So, I don’t really understand, why did you bother to write the message below, and it is not a first message for the same subject.

You did not give any details, you don’t give any links, how to make the machine working on windows xp, you keep saying, “it works”. Well, don’t you fill, everyone is very happy for you already, and every time when someone having problem with windows xp he or she will think about you and fill much better.



Do you think, it is a good time to volunteer little more information, how about some details? Beside giving an exact date since which you still under windows xp.

Give some thoughts.



Sincerely



Igor





From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Michael Capelle
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 9:10 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox



yes, it sure can be used, i have been using it this way since the 31 of aug.



From: Gene <mailto:gsasner@...>

Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 8:06 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox



I was able to log in using your procedure. It appears that I can use Drop Box though I haven't done any testing to be sure that it works properly after I log in. It treated my login as though Drop Box were on a new machine and took awhile to index the files I already had in the Drop Box folder on my machine. But after awhile, it changed its system tray message to up to date. So it appears that even though Drop box sent messages saying it can't be used with XP any longer, it may be able to be.



GGene

----- Original Message -----

From: Gene <mailto:gsasner@...>

Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 7:06 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox



And what happens when you close the program and run it again or when you do the same thing by rebooting?



Perhaps there is a bugg in the Drop Box system that allows you to use the program in this way but it is not what is intended. I received two messages before the termination date telling me that the program can't be used and you can't log in using the program itself. If you can do so using the procedure you gave, that would be useful to know. But I doubt it is just a one time procedure. I suspect you have to do so every time you close and reopen the program or every time you do the equivalent by rebooting.



Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Michael Capelle <mailto:mcapelle@...>

Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 6:57 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox



u r not getting i t, when u launch db for the first time, it takes you to
the page in the browser, u log into it, db then starts normally and logs u
in.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 6:55 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox


Yes, it takes you to exactly the same web page you can go to if you go
directly to the site itself by opening your browser and going there
directly. You are logging into use Drop Box with your browser. You are not
using the Drop Box desktop program. All you are doing is using control g to
have the program run your default browser and open the login page. If you
look in the system tray, you will see that the program says starting and it
never progresses. You can't use the desktop program to access Send Space
other than to have it open the login page in your browser and that you can
do directly in your browser.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Michael Capelle
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 6:44 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox


yes, u can, it will say press control plus g to log in, it takes you to a
web page to log in.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 6:39 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox


I'm not sure what you are describing. You have to log in using the Drop Box
desktop program as far as I know. You can't log in using a browser and then
use the desk top program without logging in with that program.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Michael Capelle
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 6:25 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox


i ran the ninite file, and it installed db, than i ran mozilla firefox to
log in, and had no issues.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 6:22 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox


I don't know why it is working forMike. It doesn't work here with XP and I
haven't heard anything indicating that it works in general. Perhaps there
is something about Mike's machine that isn't standard.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Arlene
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 4:07 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox


I can't believe Drop box still works for xp. I'm glad it still does for
those who use it. My xp box died a long time ago! My very first xp box quit
serving me when I started using jaws 11. It couldn’t handle it. I had to
give it to a sighted user. Yes, with it I had drop box. I was going into
chat rooms that used tc conference. The second box I got from a friend. it
died shortly after I got my 7 box witch I still have. I'm happy with 7. If
I get or end up with ten so be it.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Michael
Capelle
Sent: September-11-16 11:38 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox

oh my gosh dude, chill the f*** out, everyone is different.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lino Morales" <linomorales001@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 12:49 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox


Yeah but the majority of folks on heredon't use them POS machines? No.
I've got nothing else to say. Happy fanagaling guys.


On 9/11/2016 1:29 PM, Antony Stone wrote:
Lino, there's no need to take that sort of tone, especially when you're
wrong.

It is possible to adjust Windows XP so that it gets updates intended for
Point
of Sale (POS) terminals, and these continue until April 9th, 2019.

You may not wish to continue using Windows XP yourself, but please don't
be so
abusive (or misinformed) towards those who do, and who know what they're
doing
to keep it going.


Antony.

On Sunday 11 Sep 2016 at 18:05, Lino Morales wrote:

Say what? Where the hell did you hear this from MR.
Bryian.uk.co.missinformed? Supported officially ended for XP on APR.
2014. Its high time you all get off the XP trainwreck. Dropbox did
indeed end their support. Fanagle it to work to your little hearts
content.

On 9/11/2016 6:32 AM, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
Actually it will let you in with a very old version, but not if its
running on xp.
It obviously detects the operating system. They have sent out many
messages from well over a month ago warning people about this and it
did actually last an extra day. I see now they are claiming that its a
security issue with xp as its not been updated for over two years,
however many of us do have xp updates till 2019, and really should
not be all shoved together with the great unwashed as it seems xp
users are seen these days.

Brian

----- Original Message ----- From: "Arno Schuh"
<@menschomat>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 10:47 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox

Hi,

the update of Dropbox is pushed by one or more entries in scheduled
tasks. So it would be possible to stop the Dropbox client to update
itself. But as I wrote in my last mail - it didn't matter. Dropbox
didn't let you in with an old version of the client.

Yours sincerely

Arno



Re: Windows 10 Mail app still problematic

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Does this email app donewsgroups as well?
Also in some Imap servers the folders are labelled differently so its hard to see how they could make it agree for everybody.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Crabtree" <pandbcrabtree@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 8:48 AM
Subject: [nvda] Windows 10 Mail app still problematic


I have tried out the Windows 10 add-on 16.09.1A with NVDA 2016-3 and the latest version of Windows 10 and still find the following problems:

- as I start the app, it speaks the initial focus, but then reacts to nothing until I use Alt plus Tab to go out and back in. I tried Escape, F 6, Tab, arrows, etc

- as I read an email or read back the text of a reply that I am about to send, it says "edit" before every line, including the blank ones. This is for every line, not just at the start of a new paragraph.

- it does not speak as I type, whether in a new email or when replying or forwarding. It will read what I have typed when I use nvda plus A or arrow up and down and it will speak each letter if I arrow left and right to correct an error.

Could I ask Joseph or others if these things are in the plan for a later release of the add-on?

Finally, Microsoft has still not implemented my top requirement: to be able to change the names of the key folders (sent, drafts, trash) to match those used by the server. This means I get 2 versions of, for example, the sent items folder, which is totally useless. I will send a Feedback to them, but if anyone has heard that they do plan to make this improvement I should be grateful for a word to the wise. Brian Crabtree


Re: To all xp users who were running dropbox

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OK I've just been doing some bodging erm, testing.
It seems that when dropbox desktop was thrown off near the end of last month and some days this motnth it was still updating the version of dropbox. I have now got all my xp machines logged back in to the deskto app and working with the same folders as before. I also note that when before one tried to log in one was directed to the page saying update your operating system, today you are not and can get to your account. Once this is done if you exit and restart the computer it logs back into the desktop. Either dropbox have relented, or perhaps the latest update has not disallowed xp as an oversight, but I'm not telling them if you don't. It might be that there was an outcry, but I am not rocking the boat.
Brian

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Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 3:19 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox


Hmmm, perhaps whatever he does works. Like I said with my xp Compaq it crawled on IE just before I donated it to a sighted user. Firefox it was beautiful. It was still slow. It didn’t even have a dvd player. The person who used it only used it for schooling. If I had kept it. It would have died perhaps 2011. Or sooner. It couldn’t hold jaws 11. I had to go back to ten.



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: September-11-16 4:23 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox



I don't know why it is working forMike. It doesn't work here with XP and I haven't heard anything indicating that it works in general. Perhaps there is something about Mike's machine that isn't standard.



Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Arlene <mailto:nedster66@...>

Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 4:07 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox



I can't believe Drop box still works for xp. I'm glad it still does for those who use it. My xp box died a long time ago! My very first xp box quit serving me when I started using jaws 11. It couldn’t handle it. I had to give it to a sighted user. Yes, with it I had drop box. I was going into chat rooms that used tc conference. The second box I got from a friend. it died shortly after I got my 7 box witch I still have. I'm happy with 7. If I get or end up with ten so be it.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Michael Capelle
Sent: September-11-16 11:38 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox

oh my gosh dude, chill the f*** out, everyone is different.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lino Morales" <linomorales001@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 12:49 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox


Yeah but the majority of folks on heredon't use them POS machines? No.
I've got nothing else to say. Happy fanagaling guys.


On 9/11/2016 1:29 PM, Antony Stone wrote:
Lino, there's no need to take that sort of tone, especially when you're
wrong.

It is possible to adjust Windows XP so that it gets updates intended for
Point
of Sale (POS) terminals, and these continue until April 9th, 2019.

You may not wish to continue using Windows XP yourself, but please don't
be so
abusive (or misinformed) towards those who do, and who know what they're
doing
to keep it going.


Antony.

On Sunday 11 Sep 2016 at 18:05, Lino Morales wrote:

Say what? Where the hell did you hear this from MR.
Bryian.uk.co.missinformed? Supported officially ended for XP on APR.
2014. Its high time you all get off the XP trainwreck. Dropbox did
indeed end their support. Fanagle it to work to your little hearts
content.

On 9/11/2016 6:32 AM, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
Actually it will let you in with a very old version, but not if its
running on xp.
It obviously detects the operating system. They have sent out many
messages from well over a month ago warning people about this and it
did actually last an extra day. I see now they are claiming that its a
security issue with xp as its not been updated for over two years,
however many of us do have xp updates till 2019, and really should
not be all shoved together with the great unwashed as it seems xp
users are seen these days.

Brian

----- Original Message ----- From: "Arno Schuh"
<@menschomat>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 10:47 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox

Hi,

the update of Dropbox is pushed by one or more entries in scheduled
tasks. So it would be possible to stop the Dropbox client to update
itself. But as I wrote in my last mail - it didn't matter. Dropbox
didn't let you in with an old version of the client.

Yours sincerely

Arno



Re: NVDA and LibreOffice

 

Hi,

Last time I tried talking to LO folks, it wasn’t successful (no replies to an email I sent regarding possible collaboration).

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Robert Kingett
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 9:08 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and LibreOffice

 

I agree. I was curious if te NV access team was gonna work with the LO accessibility team but my guess is we have NVDA folk on the LO team already? I hope so! I use LO more than MSW myself.


Re: *** SPAM *** Navigation Pane

Gene
 

That's right.  Even though I use the command a lot, I didn't remember it correctly when I wrote the message.  It's NVDA key f3 for repeat search.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 8:36 AM
Subject: Re: *** SPAM *** [nvda] Navigation Pane

Hi Gene:
I always thought that it was NVDAkey-f3 withought the control to
repeat the search.  Actually, that seems to work for me.
Kevin Huber

On 9/11/16, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
> did you use nvda control f3 to repeat the search?  That is the correct
> procedure.  NVDA key control f for the firrst search.  NVDA control f3 for
> repetitions.  It may not matter but at this point, we don't know if the
> problem is the command being used or the way NVDA search works in Word.
>
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Cearbhall O'Meadhra
> Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 9:31 AM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: *** SPAM *** [nvda] Navigation Pane
>
>
> Gene,
>
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>
> Yes, you are right that NVDA's browse mode works in MS Word. It does bring
> the real cursor along with the virtual cursor. In fact, the windows wearch
> can also be used while in browse mode.
>
>
>
> The NVDA search, NVDA+control+f only finds one occurrence of the result and
> not multiple occurrences like the control+f does. Therefore, it seems to me
> that there is no point in using browse mode to bring up multiple occurrences
> of the result.
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> All the best,
>
>
>
> Cearbhall
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> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
> Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 3:03 PM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: *** SPAM *** [nvda] Navigation Pane
>
>
>
> You have to manually enter browse mode, NVDA key space.  As I said a few
> days ago, and no one addressed my question, does that move the actual
> application cursor along with the browse mode cursor or does it just move
> the browse mode cursor.  To get back to the application cursor, once again,
> use NVDA key space.  It's a toggle.  At least I should say, it's my
> understanding that in Word, this command toggles browse mode on and off and
> it must be manually done.
>
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>
> Gene
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Cearbhall O'Meadhra
>
> Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 8:46 AM
>
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>
> Subject: Re: *** SPAM *** [nvda] Navigation Pane
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> Thanks, Daniel,
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> I cannot get NVDA+F3 to work in Word. It works here in Outlook all right but
> not in Word.
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> Do you know where I might find a tutorial?
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>
> All the best,
>
>
>
> Cearbhall
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> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of LANGERON
> Daniel
> Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 2:12 PM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: *** SPAM *** [nvda] Navigation Pane
>
>
>
> Hi both of you,
> Just a brief "touch and go" into your discussion:  What about using the
> classic NVDA Key + F3 in order to reach the next occurrence you are looking
> for ?
> Hope that could help.
> Daniel from Versailles France
>
> Le 11/09/2016 14:54, Cearbhall O'Meadhra a écrit :
>
>   Gene,
>
>
>
>   Yes, F6 and shift F6 moves between the various parts of the Word screen.
> Eventually F6 arrives at the search pane. This has three tabs headed
> "Search", "Headings" and "Pages". My problem occurs when the Search tool is
> in focus. Then I can type in a word that I want to find in the document. If
> this word occurs a few times in the document, I should get a list of results
> just below the search box. My problem is how to go through each of
>
>   these results to pick the one that I am looking for?
>
>
>
>   I am using Word 2010 in Windows 7 with NVDA 2016.3.
>
>
>
>   All the best,
>
>
>
>   Cearbhall
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>   From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
>   Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 1:35 PM
>   To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>   Subject: Re: [nvda] Navigation Pane
>
>
>
>   Have you tried using f6 to move forward and shift f6 to move backward
> among whatever panes may be opened?
>
>
>
>   Gene
>   ----- Original Message -----
>
>   From: Cearbhall O'Meadhra
>
>   Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 7:27 AM
>
>   To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>
>   Subject: Re: [nvda] Navigation Pane
>
>
>
>   Hi,
>
>
>
>   I am really struggling to find a good description of how to use the
> Navigation Pane in Word 2010 with NVDA or, indeed,  any screen reader!
>
>
>
>   Could anyone point me to a good tutorial or even set out the steps that
> they use to move through the results of a word search after pressing
> control-f in Word 2010, please?
>
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>   All the best,
>
>
>
>   Cearbhall
>
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