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答复: [nvda] is new NVDA released?

rowen brian <manchen0528@...>
 

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发件人: Dennis L
发送时间: 2017524 11:58
收件人: nvda@nvda.groups.io
主题: [nvda] is new NVDA released?

 

Hi, is the new NVDA released??

 


Re: A very damn well written article promoting NVDA

Mallard
 

Wow! This is great! I'll forward it to all my friends, blind and sighted...


I usually donate to NVDA each time a new version comes out, but I think I won't wait for NVDA 2017.2 to be officially released. This time I'll make an early donation to celebrate this great article... (smile).


Ciao, and thanks Christopher!

Ollie

Il 23/05/2017 23:47, Lino Morales ha scritto:
Chris Hoffstater wrote a damn good article on his blog about NVDA which you can read here.

http://chrishofstader.com/nvda-now-more-than-ever/




Re: how to make links appear on a separate line

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi


Try while in the browser the NVDA key + letter V


It will toggle between screen layout on and off.


When it is on if i remember right it puts the link on a seperate line.


And the other way on the one line.


Gene nz




On 24/05/2017 4:17 PM, Dennis L wrote:

Hi, how do you prevent  links from appearing on the same line?  I saw this before but my computer crashed and I lost how to fix this.


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Re: What mistake am I making, if any?

Jacob Kruger
 

Odd - maybe something to do with charactersets, affecting spacing, or something?


Wouldn't expect the virtual rendition to be affected by spacing in terms of what it looks like visually, but, that's otherwise about all can think of.


Stay well


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
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On 2017-05-23 22:03, Brian Vogel wrote:

Jacob,

        Er, no, not for me it didn't.  I even noted in my original message that log in was two words, not one.  Not that anyone will be experiencing this part, but "logout" on that site is one word.

        Now, on my latest try under Chrome, it is finding it with an NVDA Find, but I need to figure out what confluence of events causes the NVDA Find to fail, because once it's failed, without restarting NVDA at a minimum, I cannot get it to find that link on that page while Chrome find works.
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how to make links appear on a separate line

Dennis L <dennisl1982@...>
 

Hi, how do you prevent  links from appearing on the same line?  I saw this before but my computer crashed and I lost how to fix this.


Re: is new NVDA released?

Arlene
 

No not yet. Just a beta.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dennis L
Sent: May-23-17 8:58 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] is new NVDA released?

 

Hi, is the new NVDA released??


is new NVDA released?

Dennis L <dennisl1982@...>
 

Hi, is the new NVDA released??


Re: nvda 2017.2 rc1

 

On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 07:33 pm, David Tanner wrote:
Could someone please post the link to the new release candidate I can't seem to find it anywhere.

 See:  https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda/message/18634 
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Re: nvda 2017.2 rc1

David Tanner
 

Could someone please post the link to the new release candidate I can't seem to find it anywhere.

David Tanner

From my iPhone 7

On May 23, 2017, at 7:49 PM, Kwork <istherelife@...> wrote:

I agree with you. Both ideas work quite well depending on what's intended. I don't generally even use the site search feature that often, only when there is something I know I want to see on a given site, but the main links are getting me nowhere.
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 10:58 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda 2017.2 rc1

I use that feature if I want a lot of results from one site.  But I seldom do because I usually only want a few or less than a few results.  I find it more convenient to just write, for example, voices NVDA or, if I'm looking for something on youtube, for another example, Roll Over Beethoven Berry youtube.  I get about four or five results from Youtube in that way.  If I want something and I am dissatisfied with the results and I think I may find what I want with more results, I use your system and get results only from that one site.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Kwork
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 10:51 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda 2017.2 rc1

In case people don't know, a good way to search google on a specific website is to put "site:" without the quotes at the beginning of the search phrase. That is the word site followed by a colon. For instance:
After that, put in a term you're searching for, such as extra voices. This tells Google to search only that particular website for what you want. No need for writing http, https, or www first after the colon to use Google's website search. For a site, such as the NVAccess one, it's more efficient in some cases than trying to navigate the NVDA site itself.
Travis
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 1:45 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda 2017.2 rc1

The site in general isn't organized well.  When I want to find something such as add ons, I use Google to search for something like NVDA add ons or for voices, I use Google to search for NVDA voices.  The home page should be organized so that it's obvious how to get to different areas of interest, support, community features such as user e-mail lists, add ons, tutorials, etc. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 1:25 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda 2017.2 rc1

The main download page for NVDA 2017.rc2 is:  https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2017-2rc1-released/

The direct download link, which is on that page, is:  https://www.nvaccess.org/download?nvdaVersion=2017.2rc1 

NVAccess should make these pages easier to find.  I had to use a web search engine to get to it.  The downloads page has nada with regard to the next release candidate and it's quite conventional to have sections for the latest stable build along with any release candidates and/or betas you'd like people to test, or at least a direct link to where these are located.
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Re: A very damn well written article promoting NVDA

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi


I agree a very well written article.


I enjoyed the read.


Gene nz

On 24/05/2017 9:47 AM, Lino Morales wrote:
Chris Hoffstater wrote a damn good article on his blog about NVDA
which you can read here.

http://chrishofstader.com/nvda-now-more-than-ever/



--
Check out my website for nvda tutorials and other blindness related
material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net. Regardless of where you
are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a
copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out
which locations or location is near to you please visit
http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries |
Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa -


nvda con teamtalk quality?

 

Hello out of curiosuity what bit rate, codec was used at the nvda con?

it sounds like 64 kbps mono but am just wondering what bit rate and codec was used fore the nvda con?

it sounded really really good.


thanks

Hank


Re: nvda 2017.2 rc1

Kwork
 


I agree with you. Both ideas work quite well depending on what's intended. I don't generally even use the site search feature that often, only when there is something I know I want to see on a given site, but the main links are getting me nowhere.

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 10:58 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda 2017.2 rc1

I use that feature if I want a lot of results from one site.  But I seldom do because I usually only want a few or less than a few results.  I find it more convenient to just write, for example, voices NVDA or, if I'm looking for something on youtube, for another example, Roll Over Beethoven Berry youtube.  I get about four or five results from Youtube in that way.  If I want something and I am dissatisfied with the results and I think I may find what I want with more results, I use your system and get results only from that one site.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Kwork
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 10:51 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda 2017.2 rc1

In case people don't know, a good way to search google on a specific website is to put "site:" without the quotes at the beginning of the search phrase. That is the word site followed by a colon. For instance:
site:nvaccess.org
After that, put in a term you're searching for, such as extra voices. This tells Google to search only that particular website for what you want. No need for writing http, https, or www first after the colon to use Google's website search. For a site, such as the NVAccess one, it's more efficient in some cases than trying to navigate the NVDA site itself.
Travis
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 1:45 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda 2017.2 rc1

The site in general isn't organized well.  When I want to find something such as add ons, I use Google to search for something like NVDA add ons or for voices, I use Google to search for NVDA voices.  The home page should be organized so that it's obvious how to get to different areas of interest, support, community features such as user e-mail lists, add ons, tutorials, etc. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 1:25 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda 2017.2 rc1

The main download page for NVDA 2017.rc2 is:  https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2017-2rc1-released/

The direct download link, which is on that page, is:  https://www.nvaccess.org/download?nvdaVersion=2017.2rc1 

NVAccess should make these pages easier to find.  I had to use a web search engine to get to it.  The downloads page has nada with regard to the next release candidate and it's quite conventional to have sections for the latest stable build along with any release candidates and/or betas you'd like people to test, or at least a direct link to where these are located.
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     Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime.

            ~ Mark Twain

 

 


Re: NVDA tutorials posted to Accessibilitycentral.net

Brennen Kinch
 

oh okay i never thought about a vpn i will have to try that

Sent from my iPhone

On May 23, 2017, at 4:53 PM, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@outlook.co.nz> wrote:

hi

The service is only for new zealand. the tv shows that show on it are
what we see on the tv minus the audio description track that we get on
certain shows here.

They updated the player and is much easier to use more like watching a
show on u tube. It is much easier to play, pause etc etc.

There are ways around it but i would think a VPN would be used to watch
the content.

Gene nz
On 24/05/2017 3:15 AM, Brennen Kinch wrote:
hi is the on-demand thing available in the US or just New Zealand

Sent from my iPhone

On May 23, 2017, at 7:17 AM, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@outlook.co.nz> wrote:

Hi guys

PAGES RECENTLY UPDATED: Updated how to navigate the TVNZ On Demand
service with NVDA (a link off the NVDA tutorials for other programs
page); NEW: How to set up a Dropbox account with the NVDA screen reader
(NVDA tutorials for other programs page
http://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20for%20ot… ). How to
use the VLC media player with the NVDA screen reader.


Gene NZ


--

<b>Check out the new location of my accessibility central website for
NVDA tutorials, NVDA road tested programs, and other eyesight related
topics.
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/ If you would like to keep up to
date with whats being updated on our website, you can also follow us on
facebook by visiting
the following link
https://en-gb.facebook.com/people/AccessibilityCentral-Net/100009727930216
Also, check out which New Zealand libraries have the NVDA screen reader
available by visiting the following link
http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries


--
Check out my website for nvda tutorials and other blindness related
material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net. Regardless of where you
are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a
copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out
which locations or location is near to you please visit
http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries |
Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa -


--
Check out my website for nvda tutorials and other blindness related
material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net. Regardless of where you
are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a
copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out
which locations or location is near to you please visit
http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries |
Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa -



Re: working with tables in microsoft word

 

On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 01:45 pm, Gene New Zealand wrote:
That key combonation put nvda to sleep and also wakes it up.

In other words, it's a toggle.

Gene, I know that you know this, but it's useful information to put out there.  There seem to still be a number of folks who are unaware of the commonly used term "toggle" for a key sequence that turns on if off or off if on. 
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     Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime.

            ~ Mark Twain

 

 


A very damn well written article promoting NVDA

Lino Morales
 

Chris Hoffstater wrote a damn good article on his blog about NVDA which you can read here.

http://chrishofstader.com/nvda-now-more-than-ever/


Re: Window-Eyes Tutorials and Transition

Gene
 

You can't compare the Window-eyes mouse pointer to object navigation.  You can give commands in NVDA for read current line, previous line, next line, and similar review commands
 
But you have to learn object navigation on its own. 
 
Screen review should be easy to teach since it is similar.  There are different commands but it's similar in movement and concept.
 
Commands such as read to end can be given.  As for browse mode, commands are either similar or identical in Window-eyes or NVDA.  I haven't used Window-eyes to any extent for years but just listing NVDA commands such as move by heading, h, skip blocks of links, n, move to next button, b, etc. should be sufficient. It should be explained how to stop automatic going into browse mode and how to change audio indications to words. 
 
As I more or less said earlier,  most of what most users do is use program commands, Windows commands, and quick navigation commands. 
 
In my opinion, that is the first important point to be made.
Maybe I'll try writing something.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 3:42 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Window-Eyes Tutorials and Transition

Hi,


Give me a couple of days, Let me see what I can come up with


Tony


On 5/23/2017 2:38 PM, Brandon Cross wrote:
Yeah, agreed, I tried window eyes briefly, not enough to get a grasp on it, but if anyone did know both intimately, it would be a worthwhile venture to make a little cheat sheet, or more if needed. An article of sourts maybe.

On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 7:40 PM, David Moore <jesusloves1966@...> wrote:

Amen!

I will be here to help anyone coming from Window-Eyes to switch to NVDA for their screen reader. I hope this does become a great way to promote NVDA and get many more people acquainted with it.

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Andre Fisher
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 2:36 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Window-Eyes Tutorials and Transition

 

Hi everyone.

 

Although I was never a Window-Eyes user, strictly NVDA, I feel that

providing material, similarly to how VFO provided some nice

transitional material to help transition to JAWS is a very good idea

for NVDA. This will be especially beneficial to those persons who are

using the Free for Office Edition. As there is a page on the wiki and

NVDACon, I hope this suggestion can come to reality, as there is a

good opportunity to extend NVDA's reach and popularity, as well as

reporting features and bugs.

 

 

 




Re: NVDA tutorials posted to Accessibilitycentral.net

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

hi

The service is only for new zealand. the tv shows that show on it are
what we see on the tv minus the audio description track that we get on
certain shows here.

They updated the player and is much easier to use more like watching a
show on u tube. It is much easier to play, pause etc etc.

There are ways around it but i would think a VPN would be used to watch
the content.

Gene nz

On 24/05/2017 3:15 AM, Brennen Kinch wrote:
hi is the on-demand thing available in the US or just New Zealand

Sent from my iPhone

On May 23, 2017, at 7:17 AM, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@outlook.co.nz> wrote:

Hi guys

PAGES RECENTLY UPDATED: Updated how to navigate the TVNZ On Demand
service with NVDA (a link off the NVDA tutorials for other programs
page); NEW: How to set up a Dropbox account with the NVDA screen reader
(NVDA tutorials for other programs page
http://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20for%20ot… ). How to
use the VLC media player with the NVDA screen reader.


Gene NZ


--

<b>Check out the new location of my accessibility central website for
NVDA tutorials, NVDA road tested programs, and other eyesight related
topics.
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/ If you would like to keep up to
date with whats being updated on our website, you can also follow us on
facebook by visiting
the following link
https://en-gb.facebook.com/people/AccessibilityCentral-Net/100009727930216
Also, check out which New Zealand libraries have the NVDA screen reader
available by visiting the following link
http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries


--
Check out my website for nvda tutorials and other blindness related
material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net. Regardless of where you
are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a
copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out
which locations or location is near to you please visit
http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries |
Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa -


--
Check out my website for nvda tutorials and other blindness related
material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net. Regardless of where you
are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a
copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out
which locations or location is near to you please visit
http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries |
Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa -


Re: working with tables in microsoft word

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi


That key combonation put nvda to sleep and also wakes it up.


Gene nz



On 24/05/2017 3:02 AM, Angelo Sonnesso wrote:

I forgot I meant NVDA + shift+ S.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene New Zealand
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 4:53 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] working with tables in microsoft word

 

Hi

 

the answer is no.

 

The NVDA key + the letter S toggles between speech mode off, speech mode beep and speech mode talk.

 

 

Not sure if there is a ticket for it but the work around will do the same.

 

gene nz

 

 

On 23/05/2017 2:26 AM, Angelo Sonnesso wrote:

If you select a row, or column, could you use NVDA + S to read the selection?  

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene New Zealand
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 5:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] working with tables in microsoft word

 

Hi

 

Not sure if this will work in word but know it works in excel.  What is written is from Quenton.

 

below is the message.

 

There isn't a direct command, but a workaround is:
1. Press SHIFT+SPACEBAR to select the row
2. Press control+c to copy it to the clipboard
3. Press NVDA+c to read the clipboard
This will read the whole row as one block of text.  Note that it will overwrite anything you already had on the clipboard.  It also reads the values of cells, not formulas.  If you want formulas read, press control+` (control+grav) to toggle between showing values and formulas before copying the row.
Similarly, if you want to read the column, press control+spacebar instead of shift+spacebar at step 1.

 

Gene nz

 

 

On 19/05/2017 9:42 PM, Angelo Sonnesso wrote:

Is there a way to read the entire row, or column with NVDA?

 

73 N2DYN Angelo

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 5:19 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] working with tables in microsoft word

 

Enes,

           Yes, but I was sticking with NVDA terminology.  Browse versus focus modes.   JAWS uses Browse versus Forms modes.  Focus/Forms mode is where you can do data entry and/or editing in the cell/edit box/other object that accepts text input that you find yourself in.
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     Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime.

            ~ Mark Twain

 

 

 

--
Check out my website for nvda tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net. Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations or location is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries | Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa -

 

--
Check out my website for nvda tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net. Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations or location is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries | Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa -


--
Check out my website for nvda tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net. Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations or location is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries | Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa -


Re: Window-Eyes Tutorials and Transition

Tony Ballou
 

Hi,


Give me a couple of days, Let me see what I can come up with


Tony


On 5/23/2017 2:38 PM, Brandon Cross wrote:
Yeah, agreed, I tried window eyes briefly, not enough to get a grasp on it, but if anyone did know both intimately, it would be a worthwhile venture to make a little cheat sheet, or more if needed. An article of sourts maybe.

On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 7:40 PM, David Moore <jesusloves1966@...> wrote:

Amen!

I will be here to help anyone coming from Window-Eyes to switch to NVDA for their screen reader. I hope this does become a great way to promote NVDA and get many more people acquainted with it.

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Andre Fisher
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 2:36 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Window-Eyes Tutorials and Transition

 

Hi everyone.

 

Although I was never a Window-Eyes user, strictly NVDA, I feel that

providing material, similarly to how VFO provided some nice

transitional material to help transition to JAWS is a very good idea

for NVDA. This will be especially beneficial to those persons who are

using the Free for Office Edition. As there is a page on the wiki and

NVDACon, I hope this suggestion can come to reality, as there is a

good opportunity to extend NVDA's reach and popularity, as well as

reporting features and bugs.

 

 

 




Re: What mistake am I making, if any?

 

Gene,

         Absolutely true, and given the utterly weird behavior I was seeing with the Focus Highlight add-on it makes me wonder if it was just a "mega-burp" of some kind that will not recur.

         These are the sorts of errors that I find most frustrating simply because you never know what caused them.  Of course, the computer geek's chant (which I use often):  Turn it off and back on again - this could very likely fix the problem, probably applies.
--
Brian         Version 1703, Build 15063.296, Home 64-bit

 

     Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime.

            ~ Mark Twain