Date   

Announcing Windows 10 App Essentials 16.10.1

 

Hi all,

 

I’m delighted to announce the release of Windows 10 App Essentials add-on 16.10.1. This includes minor tweaks and translation updates. The new add-on and the changelog can be found at:

https://github.com/josephsl/wintenApps/releases/tag/16.10.1

 

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: keyboard question

Kwork
 


That's good. I'm glad you found it.
Travis

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2016 8:08 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] keyboard question

    As soon as I wrote that email, I was able to find it.  Thanks everyone for being so patient with me.


On 10/10/2016 11:05 PM, Gene wrote:
It may not be shown in your system tray.  Your system tray may be set to not show all icons that can be shown there.  That's a Windows setting and not a screen-reader setting so you don't have to worry about not knowing about that as an NVDA function.
 
Someone may tell you how to check the system tray setting.  I'll leave that to others.  I've almost never used the setting and others will be far more familiar with it and not have to experiment as I would to figure it out.
 
But here is another way you can set the caps lock as a modifier.
 
I'll also explain that just as FS calls any key used as a modifier to work with JAWS the JAWS key, NVDA developers refer to any key that you use as an NVDA modifier as the NVDA key.  So once you set the caps lock key, it will be an NVDA key.
 
Again, someone can tell you were to find this file.  I don't know where it is in your version of Windows and I am running a portable version of NVDA so it wouldn't  be in the same place as yours anyway.
Once you find the NVDA.ini file, press enter on it.  It will open in Notepad.
There are a lot of settings but if you look far enough, you will fine keyboard settings.
Look for this line:
 useCapsLockAsNVDAModifierKey = false
Change the worde false to true and then save the file with control s.
Close notepad, then close NVDA and run it again.  If you want to reboot to cause NVDA to close and run again, you may.  or you can end the program using the task manager and run it again.
 
Now, you will be able to use the caps lock as an NVDA key.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2016 9:41 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] keyboard question

     I did the windows plus B, but I can't find the NVDA setting. So
very sorry for being uninformed about this screenreader.


On 10/10/2016 4:38 PM, Kwork wrote:
> Melissa, if you are not currently able to use the insert key as an NVDA
> modifier key, do the following:
>
> 1. Press windows key plus b to get to the notification area.
> 2. Arrow around till you hear the word "NVDA."
> 3. Press the space bar or the enter key to activate the NVDA menu.
> 4. Arrow down to preferences, then press the right arrow key to open the
> preferences menu.
> 5. Arrow down to Keyboard settings, and press enter to enter the dialog
> where you can tab around to explore the various options.
> 6. Tab till you hear the words "Use CapsLock as an NVDA modifier key."
> 7. Press the spacebar to check it. If it was already check, the spacebar
> will uncheck it. Press it again to make sure it's checked.
> 8. Tab to the ok button and press the spacebar to approve the changes and
> exit the keyboard settings.
> Of course there are other settings you can set while you're in there, so
> look around before exiting.
> I personally have both the insert key and the capps lock set as modifiers.
> Like you, I have heard that many newer keyboards are losing the insert key,
> so having an alternate modifier is important.
> I know that you can also set the keyboard to laptop, but don't know the
> commands there, so have no idea if that'll help you at all or not.
> Good luck,
> Travis
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Melissa Galbraith" <wvflutist@...>
> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> Sent: Monday, October 10, 2016 12:41 PM
> Subject: [nvda] keyboard question
>
>
> I'm using NVDA and am not sure of all the hotkeys.  The keyboards I am
> using don't have the insert key, and I read in an article last night
> that the insert key is being phased out.  Many of the ewer keyboarders
> don't feature it.  How in the world am I supposed to do some of the
> commands with out it.?
>
>
> Melissa
>
>
>
>
>
>
>





Re: keyboard question

Melissa G <wvflutist@...>
 

    As soon as I wrote that email, I was able to find it.  Thanks everyone for being so patient with me.


On 10/10/2016 11:05 PM, Gene wrote:
It may not be shown in your system tray.  Your system tray may be set to not show all icons that can be shown there.  That's a Windows setting and not a screen-reader setting so you don't have to worry about not knowing about that as an NVDA function.
 
Someone may tell you how to check the system tray setting.  I'll leave that to others.  I've almost never used the setting and others will be far more familiar with it and not have to experiment as I would to figure it out.
 
But here is another way you can set the caps lock as a modifier.
 
I'll also explain that just as FS calls any key used as a modifier to work with JAWS the JAWS key, NVDA developers refer to any key that you use as an NVDA modifier as the NVDA key.  So once you set the caps lock key, it will be an NVDA key.
 
Again, someone can tell you were to find this file.  I don't know where it is in your version of Windows and I am running a portable version of NVDA so it wouldn't  be in the same place as yours anyway.
Once you find the NVDA.ini file, press enter on it.  It will open in Notepad.
There are a lot of settings but if you look far enough, you will fine keyboard settings.
Look for this line:
 useCapsLockAsNVDAModifierKey = false
Change the worde false to true and then save the file with control s.
Close notepad, then close NVDA and run it again.  If you want to reboot to cause NVDA to close and run again, you may.  or you can end the program using the task manager and run it again.
 
Now, you will be able to use the caps lock as an NVDA key.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2016 9:41 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] keyboard question

     I did the windows plus B, but I can't find the NVDA setting. So
very sorry for being uninformed about this screenreader.


On 10/10/2016 4:38 PM, Kwork wrote:
> Melissa, if you are not currently able to use the insert key as an NVDA
> modifier key, do the following:
>
> 1. Press windows key plus b to get to the notification area.
> 2. Arrow around till you hear the word "NVDA."
> 3. Press the space bar or the enter key to activate the NVDA menu.
> 4. Arrow down to preferences, then press the right arrow key to open the
> preferences menu.
> 5. Arrow down to Keyboard settings, and press enter to enter the dialog
> where you can tab around to explore the various options.
> 6. Tab till you hear the words "Use CapsLock as an NVDA modifier key."
> 7. Press the spacebar to check it. If it was already check, the spacebar
> will uncheck it. Press it again to make sure it's checked.
> 8. Tab to the ok button and press the spacebar to approve the changes and
> exit the keyboard settings.
> Of course there are other settings you can set while you're in there, so
> look around before exiting.
> I personally have both the insert key and the capps lock set as modifiers.
> Like you, I have heard that many newer keyboards are losing the insert key,
> so having an alternate modifier is important.
> I know that you can also set the keyboard to laptop, but don't know the
> commands there, so have no idea if that'll help you at all or not.
> Good luck,
> Travis
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Melissa Galbraith" <wvflutist@...>
> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> Sent: Monday, October 10, 2016 12:41 PM
> Subject: [nvda] keyboard question
>
>
> I'm using NVDA and am not sure of all the hotkeys.  The keyboards I am
> using don't have the insert key, and I read in an article last night
> that the insert key is being phased out.  Many of the ewer keyboarders
> don't feature it.  How in the world am I supposed to do some of the
> commands with out it.?
>
>
> Melissa
>
>
>
>
>
>
>





Re: keyboard question

Gene
 

It may not be shown in your system tray.  Your system tray may be set to not show all icons that can be shown there.  That's a Windows setting and not a screen-reader setting so you don't have to worry about not knowing about that as an NVDA function.
 
Someone may tell you how to check the system tray setting.  I'll leave that to others.  I've almost never used the setting and others will be far more familiar with it and not have to experiment as I would to figure it out.
 
But here is another way you can set the caps lock as a modifier.
 
I'll also explain that just as FS calls any key used as a modifier to work with JAWS the JAWS key, NVDA developers refer to any key that you use as an NVDA modifier as the NVDA key.  So once you set the caps lock key, it will be an NVDA key.
 
Again, someone can tell you were to find this file.  I don't know where it is in your version of Windows and I am running a portable version of NVDA so it wouldn't  be in the same place as yours anyway.
Once you find the NVDA.ini file, press enter on it.  It will open in Notepad.
There are a lot of settings but if you look far enough, you will fine keyboard settings.
Look for this line:
 useCapsLockAsNVDAModifierKey = false
Change the worde false to true and then save the file with control s.
Close notepad, then close NVDA and run it again.  If you want to reboot to cause NVDA to close and run again, you may.  or you can end the program using the task manager and run it again.
 
Now, you will be able to use the caps lock as an NVDA key.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2016 9:41 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] keyboard question

     I did the windows plus B, but I can't find the NVDA setting. So
very sorry for being uninformed about this screenreader.


On 10/10/2016 4:38 PM, Kwork wrote:
> Melissa, if you are not currently able to use the insert key as an NVDA
> modifier key, do the following:
>
> 1. Press windows key plus b to get to the notification area.
> 2. Arrow around till you hear the word "NVDA."
> 3. Press the space bar or the enter key to activate the NVDA menu.
> 4. Arrow down to preferences, then press the right arrow key to open the
> preferences menu.
> 5. Arrow down to Keyboard settings, and press enter to enter the dialog
> where you can tab around to explore the various options.
> 6. Tab till you hear the words "Use CapsLock as an NVDA modifier key."
> 7. Press the spacebar to check it. If it was already check, the spacebar
> will uncheck it. Press it again to make sure it's checked.
> 8. Tab to the ok button and press the spacebar to approve the changes and
> exit the keyboard settings.
> Of course there are other settings you can set while you're in there, so
> look around before exiting.
> I personally have both the insert key and the capps lock set as modifiers.
> Like you, I have heard that many newer keyboards are losing the insert key,
> so having an alternate modifier is important.
> I know that you can also set the keyboard to laptop, but don't know the
> commands there, so have no idea if that'll help you at all or not.
> Good luck,
> Travis
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Melissa Galbraith" <wvflutist@...>
> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> Sent: Monday, October 10, 2016 12:41 PM
> Subject: [nvda] keyboard question
>
>
> I'm using NVDA and am not sure of all the hotkeys.  The keyboards I am
> using don't have the insert key, and I read in an article last night
> that the insert key is being phased out.  Many of the ewer keyboarders
> don't feature it.  How in the world am I supposed to do some of the
> commands with out it.?
>
>
> Melissa
>
>
>
>
>
>
>




Re: keyboard question

Aravind R
 

after pressing windows+b, press space bar then press arrow keys. you
will find nvda on overflow area. you can activate by pressing enter
and reach nvda settings.

On 10/11/16, Melissa Galbraith <wvflutist@...> wrote:
I did the windows plus B, but I can't find the NVDA setting. So
very sorry for being uninformed about this screenreader.


On 10/10/2016 4:38 PM, Kwork wrote:
Melissa, if you are not currently able to use the insert key as an NVDA
modifier key, do the following:

1. Press windows key plus b to get to the notification area.
2. Arrow around till you hear the word "NVDA."
3. Press the space bar or the enter key to activate the NVDA menu.
4. Arrow down to preferences, then press the right arrow key to open the
preferences menu.
5. Arrow down to Keyboard settings, and press enter to enter the dialog
where you can tab around to explore the various options.
6. Tab till you hear the words "Use CapsLock as an NVDA modifier key."
7. Press the spacebar to check it. If it was already check, the spacebar
will uncheck it. Press it again to make sure it's checked.
8. Tab to the ok button and press the spacebar to approve the changes and
exit the keyboard settings.
Of course there are other settings you can set while you're in there, so
look around before exiting.
I personally have both the insert key and the capps lock set as
modifiers.
Like you, I have heard that many newer keyboards are losing the insert
key,
so having an alternate modifier is important.
I know that you can also set the keyboard to laptop, but don't know the
commands there, so have no idea if that'll help you at all or not.
Good luck,
Travis
----- Original Message -----
From: "Melissa Galbraith" <wvflutist@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2016 12:41 PM
Subject: [nvda] keyboard question


I'm using NVDA and am not sure of all the hotkeys. The keyboards I am
using don't have the insert key, and I read in an article last night
that the insert key is being phased out. Many of the ewer keyboarders
don't feature it. How in the world am I supposed to do some of the
commands with out it.?


Melissa









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Re: keyboard question

Melissa G <wvflutist@...>
 

I did the windows plus B, but I can't find the NVDA setting. So very sorry for being uninformed about this screenreader.

On 10/10/2016 4:38 PM, Kwork wrote:
Melissa, if you are not currently able to use the insert key as an NVDA
modifier key, do the following:

1. Press windows key plus b to get to the notification area.
2. Arrow around till you hear the word "NVDA."
3. Press the space bar or the enter key to activate the NVDA menu.
4. Arrow down to preferences, then press the right arrow key to open the
preferences menu.
5. Arrow down to Keyboard settings, and press enter to enter the dialog
where you can tab around to explore the various options.
6. Tab till you hear the words "Use CapsLock as an NVDA modifier key."
7. Press the spacebar to check it. If it was already check, the spacebar
will uncheck it. Press it again to make sure it's checked.
8. Tab to the ok button and press the spacebar to approve the changes and
exit the keyboard settings.
Of course there are other settings you can set while you're in there, so
look around before exiting.
I personally have both the insert key and the capps lock set as modifiers.
Like you, I have heard that many newer keyboards are losing the insert key,
so having an alternate modifier is important.
I know that you can also set the keyboard to laptop, but don't know the
commands there, so have no idea if that'll help you at all or not.
Good luck,
Travis
----- Original Message -----
From: "Melissa Galbraith" <wvflutist@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2016 12:41 PM
Subject: [nvda] keyboard question


I'm using NVDA and am not sure of all the hotkeys. The keyboards I am
using don't have the insert key, and I read in an article last night
that the insert key is being phased out. Many of the ewer keyboarders
don't feature it. How in the world am I supposed to do some of the
commands with out it.?


Melissa






Re: keyboard question

Melissa G <wvflutist@...>
 

I had found some hot keys the other day but could never figure what the NVvvvva key was.  Sorry but I'm just really learning this program.


On 10/10/2016 4:52 PM, Pauline Smith wrote:
Good afternoon. I have NVVA set so that I have the option of using of either insert or caps lock key. Cap slock key was easier on my standard laptop keyboard. But since now I primarily use a USB keyboard set for desktop computer, I can usually insert the as the mentioned for keys like NVVA key plus T for title bar or NVVA S for speech. Just makes it more practical for the same reason I have NVVA set to desktop layout now. I use to have it set for laptop.

Pauline Smith sent you this voice-to-text generated email using Voice on the Go.

Click here to listen to the original message.



From: Gene
Sent: October 10, 2016 4:35 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] keyboard question

The caps lock key is on the left side of the keyboard.  While this will be convenient for some commands that use the NVDA key and another key on the right side of the keyboard, it is hardly convenient for commands such as read tible bar, NVDA t or read dialog, NVDA b or sor doing things like turning speech on and off, NVDA s.  If you want to use NVDA with the intended level of convenience, you either need to get another keyboard or use the lap top layout instead or you can get a USB numpad, which will have an insert key.  You can then continue to use your current keyboard and use the insert on the USB keyboard.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2016 3:07 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] keyboard question

Melissa,

Set NVDA to use the caps-lock key.  I believe this can be done on the NVDA opening menu.



Regards
Louis Maher
Phone: 713-444-7838
E-mail: ljmaher@...

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Melissa Galbraith
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2016 2:41 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] keyboard question

I'm using NVDA and am not sure of all the hotkeys.  The keyboards I am using don't have the insert key, and I read in an article last night that the insert key is being phased out.  Many of the ewer keyboarders don't feature it.  How in the world am I supposed to do some of the commands with out it.?


Melissa









Re: keyboard question

Melissa G <wvflutist@...>
 

Thankss to everyone for all of their help. I'm used to using jaws, and when my other computer crashed no longer have jaws as an option. Long story made short, I don't haave funds to get another version of jaws, and with moving, I don't know where my software is.

On 10/10/2016 4:38 PM, Kwork wrote:
Melissa, if you are not currently able to use the insert key as an NVDA
modifier key, do the following:

1. Press windows key plus b to get to the notification area.
2. Arrow around till you hear the word "NVDA."
3. Press the space bar or the enter key to activate the NVDA menu.
4. Arrow down to preferences, then press the right arrow key to open the
preferences menu.
5. Arrow down to Keyboard settings, and press enter to enter the dialog
where you can tab around to explore the various options.
6. Tab till you hear the words "Use CapsLock as an NVDA modifier key."
7. Press the spacebar to check it. If it was already check, the spacebar
will uncheck it. Press it again to make sure it's checked.
8. Tab to the ok button and press the spacebar to approve the changes and
exit the keyboard settings.
Of course there are other settings you can set while you're in there, so
look around before exiting.
I personally have both the insert key and the capps lock set as modifiers.
Like you, I have heard that many newer keyboards are losing the insert key,
so having an alternate modifier is important.
I know that you can also set the keyboard to laptop, but don't know the
commands there, so have no idea if that'll help you at all or not.
Good luck,
Travis
----- Original Message -----
From: "Melissa Galbraith" <wvflutist@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2016 12:41 PM
Subject: [nvda] keyboard question


I'm using NVDA and am not sure of all the hotkeys. The keyboards I am
using don't have the insert key, and I read in an article last night
that the insert key is being phased out. Many of the ewer keyboarders
don't feature it. How in the world am I supposed to do some of the
commands with out it.?


Melissa






Re: Disturbing NVDA Remote Rumor: any ruth or verification?

Lino Morales
 

Yes you are correct. Christopher Tauth was the other DEV.

On 10/10/2016 3:40 PM, Jeremy wrote:
I don't really have any opinions on weather or not Tyler S had malicious intent in the development of the remote AddOn, but I do think it'd be just a little weird for him to do such a thing, most especially for the rest of his contributions he's made towards other accessible projects.

I'd also point out that Tyler S wasn't the only one who assisted in the development of the Addon, something I didn't see mentioned in the fb post. As I recall, the development was carried out by two people, so if it does turn out that something weird is going on, I'd be looking at everyone, not just one dude who's done a hell of a lot for the accessible community.

Buddy Brannan wrote:
On a shared copy of the post, he posted a comment to the effect that the exploit was with NVDA itself, by sending a large amount of text through it all at once. I don't even know if he's on this list and can elaborate himself.

--
Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
Phone: 814-860-3194
Mobile: 814-431-0962
Email: buddy@...




On Oct 10, 2016, at 1:27 PM, Joseph Lee <@joslee> wrote:

Hi,
Okay... I'd like to know where Tyler L is getting this information. Based on
that post, it appears someone may have told him what's up. I'm keeping an
eye on Twitter to find out what's up as well.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Buddy
Brannan
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2016 10:10 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Disturbing NVDA Remote Rumor: any ruth or verification?

This should work:
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10210482594480519&id=1214464156&
refid=17&ref=m_notif&notif_t=feed_comment_reply&_ft_=top_level_post_id.10210
482594480519%3Atl_objid.10210482594480519%3Athid.1214464156%3A30606112949941
4%3A2%3A0%3A1477983599%3A-8014300897192678334&__tn__=%2As


--
Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
Phone: 814-860-3194
Mobile: 814-431-0962
Email: buddy@...




On Oct 10, 2016, at 1:02 PM, Joseph Lee <@joslee> wrote:

Hi everyone,
I was alerted to this by Derek Riemer, and am keeping an eye on this
development. According to what I'm seeing, this is quite disturbing if the
claims are to be believed. What we need at this point is evidence that
proves what the below Facebook message says (one of the evidence needed is
the URL to that post).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Buddy
Brannan
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2016 7:43 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Disturbing NVDA Remote Rumor: any ruth or verification?

Just saw this on Facebook:

All of my blind NVDA friends: If you have used, currently use or plan on
using NVDA remote, I recommend you stop now and remove it. There is at
least
one exploit where someone can crash a system, whether or not it is enabled
to be controlled. This exploit is being used by Tyler Spivy, one of the
authors of the project. Many more may exist and through an inspection of
the
code probably do. Please circulate this to as many people as possible.
Thanks.


Disturbing if true. Given some of Tyler's past exploits, well, one would
hope he'd grown up since those. If true, this certainly won't help open
source in general, NVDA in particular, or future crowdfunding for AT.

--
Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
Phone: 814-860-3194
Mobile: 814-431-0962
Email: buddy@...
















Re: Disturbing NVDA Remote Rumor: any ruth or verification?

Lino Morales
 

Well this sucks loads if this is true, but Tyler is on this list I think he should come come clean and answer for himself before we all jump to conclusions.

On 10/10/2016 10:43 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote:
Just saw this on Facebook:

All of my blind NVDA friends: If you have used, currently use or plan on using NVDA remote, I recommend you stop now and remove it. There is at least one exploit where someone can crash a system, whether or not it is enabled to be controlled. This exploit is being used by Tyler Spivy, one of the authors of the project. Many more may exist and through an inspection of the code probably do. Please circulate this to as many people as possible. Thanks.


Disturbing if true. Given some of Tyler's past exploits, well, one would hope he'd grown up since those. If true, this certainly won't help open source in general, NVDA in particular, or future crowdfunding for AT.

--
Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
Phone: 814-860-3194
Mobile: 814-431-0962
Email: buddy@...






Re: official address for subscribing to the thunderbird email list

Lino Morales
 

The official Thunderbird list address to sub is on the Tbird page. Do a search for it on at:

www.mozilla.org/

Good luck.

On 10/10/2016 1:37 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Hi, everyone,


What's the email address to subscribe to the official thunderbird list? I tried


thunderbird@...


and typed "subscribe" in the subject line but that didn't work.


Thanks for your help in advance.


Rosemarie





Re: Opening attached files in Firefox

 

Cearbhall,

            You're quite welcome.

            I can tell that sometimes people believe I'm trying to be either difficult, pedantic, or both, but I'm not.  The interplay between settings within programs or between them can also interplay with specific operating system settings and give you very different results.  Without knowing how each set of settings is configured it's often impossible to venture a reasonable guess as to final behavior.  I've tweaked some of these things so many times it's almost like breathing, but I remember all to well when it absolutely was not "that simple" for me.

            I'm really glad that you now have the behavior you were seeking and know how to adjust it should the need arise later.
--
Brian

Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.  If you’re alive, it isn’t.

    ~ Lauren Bacall

    



Re: browse mode, Re: [nvda] creating a profile

Quentin Christensen
 

You're welcome Gary!

There is more in the Microsoft Word with NVDA module available from NV Access: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/ if you are interested (no pressure, just spruiking it *grin*)

Regards

Quentin.


On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 9:46 AM, Gary Metzler <gmtravel@...> wrote:
Hi quentin,
 
Thank you for the step by step instructions.  This is most helpful.  Thanks again for all your help.
 
From: Quentin Christensen
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2016 6:17 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: browse mode, Re: [nvda] creating a profile
 
Ok, you can do that.  There are two ways, probably depending on how you want NVDA to behave in programs other than WLM or IE.
 
If you want the default behaviour to be that say all automatically reads on page load everywhere EXCEPT IE, then:
 
1. Ensure "Automatic say all on page load" is checked in NVDA's Browse mode settings (NVDA+CONTROL+B)
2. Open IE - any page.
3. Open NVDA's Configuration profiles page (NVDA+CONTROL+P)
4. Create a new profile, call it say, IE.
5. Set the new profile to activate in the current application.
6. Open Browse mode settings and uncheck automatic say all on page load.
 
Now NVDA should automatically say all on page load in Browse mode in WLM, and other applications (including other web browsers), but NOT Internet Explorer.
 
If you want the default behaviour to be that say all doesn't read automatically, then follow the same procedure but set browse mode to not say say, open WLM, create the new profile, set browse mode say all.
 
Note that while that profile is active, any changes you make to the voice - eg changing the speech rate, changing the synthesizer etc, will be kept every time you go into that application.
 
Regards
 
Quentin.
 
On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 12:44 AM, Gary Metzler <gmtravel@...> wrote:
Yes, that is what I want to do.  I want the say all to read the entire message in wlm but, I don’t want it to read the entire page in ie.  Thanks,
 
From: Quentin Christensen
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2016 5:56 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: browse mode, Re: [nvda] creating a profile
 
Marisane - it might be worth posting your question as a new topic, as people may not see it in here.
 
Gary, you can certainly set up as many profiles as you like, use one across several programs etc.  I'm not quite sure I understand what you mean about say all - do you mean you don't want Internet Explorer to automatically read pages when they load?  You can set that up although that's in Browse mode settings - NVDA+control+b - "Automatic say all on page load".
 
Regards
 
Quentin.
 
On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 7:03 PM, Gary Metzler <gmtravel@...> wrote:
Hi quentin,
 
I have a question can I set up a profile to work in internet explorer to not use the say all command but, still use it in wlm?  Thanks for any help.
 
From: Quentin Christensen
Sent: Sunday, October 9, 2016 10:36 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: browse mode, Re: [nvda] creating a profile
 
Look's like Gary found what he needed, but further to your keys there John (and what you've written will work perfectly), you can also press:
 
NVDA+control+b to jump directly to the dialog.  That works for a number of other NVDA dialogs (not all, but a few), eg NVDA+control+v for voice settings, NVDA+control+k for keyboard settings, NVDA+control+d for document formatting settings etc.
 
Kind regards
 
Quentin.
 
On Sun, Oct 9, 2016 at 4:28 AM, John Sanfilippo <johnsanfilippo@...> wrote:
NVDA n, p, b, should do it.

JS



On 10/8/16 13:21, Gary Metzler  wrote:
> Hi Gene,
>
> I found the browse settings and the check box wasn’t checked.  I checked
> it and now the messages are read to the end.  Thanks again.
>
> *From:* Gene
> *Sent:* Saturday, October 8, 2016 12:55 PM
> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] creating a profile
>
> I doubt this will help but In browse mode settings in NVDA, see if the
> setting that tells NVDA to read page automatically when page loads is
> checked.  It is by default but if it isn't checked, checking it may
> solve the problem.
>
> Gene
>
> *From:* Gary Metzler
> *Sent:* Saturday, October 08, 2016 11:46 AM
> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] creating a profile
>
> I am reading in html.
>
> *From:* Gene
> *Sent:* Saturday, October 8, 2016 12:15 PM
> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] creating a profile
>
> I'm not sure.  I don't think you specified what e-mail program you are
> using.  Also, are you reading mail as plain text or as HTML.
>
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Gary Metzler
> *Sent:* Saturday, October 08, 2016 11:10 AM
> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] creating a profile
>
> HI Gene,
>
> When I opened this message it only read the first sentence.  Can this be
> changed?  Thanks,
>
> *From:* Gene
> *Sent:* Saturday, October 8, 2016 8:14 AM
> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] creating a profile
>
> When I open an e-mail message, even though my messages are read
> automatically, I manually issue the read to end command before or at the
> moment reading starts.  I find this more efficient in starting reading
> faster and avoiding material I don't want read.  I have already heard
> the subject line.  If I tell the message to be read manually, this
> material is not spoken again and the message body starts to be read.
> You may have to experiment to see how long to wait before issuing the
> command after opening a message.
>
> There are times when getting in the habit of manually issuing a command
> is superior to having something done automatically unless you know how
> to script a screen-reader to do exactly what you want it to do.  Issuing
> such a command will become automatic over time.
>
> Gene
>
> *From:* Rui Fontes
> *Sent:* Saturday, October 08, 2016 6:53 AM
> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] creating a profile
>
> Sorry, but Windows Live Mail already does that...
> And, a profil is only to set different configurations to an app or action...
>
> What you want to achieve, if it is not already done, will need an
> appmodule...
>
> Rui
>
>
> -----Mensagem Original-----
> De: Gary Metzler
> Data: 8 de outubro de 2016 11:10
> Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Assunto: [nvda] creating a profile
>
>
> Hi All,
>
> Since I am new to nvda I would like to know if it is possible to create a
> profile for windows live mail to read the entire message upon opening it?
> If so, how is this done?  Thanks for any help.Regards, Gary kn4ox
>
>
>
>
>
>





 
--
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Training Material Developer
Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/



 
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Re: browse mode, Re: [nvda] creating a profile

Gary Metzler <gmtravel@...>
 

Hi quentin,
 
Thank you for the step by step instructions.  This is most helpful.  Thanks again for all your help.
 

From: Quentin Christensen
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2016 6:17 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: browse mode, Re: [nvda] creating a profile
 
Ok, you can do that.  There are two ways, probably depending on how you want NVDA to behave in programs other than WLM or IE.
 
If you want the default behaviour to be that say all automatically reads on page load everywhere EXCEPT IE, then:
 
1. Ensure "Automatic say all on page load" is checked in NVDA's Browse mode settings (NVDA+CONTROL+B)
2. Open IE - any page.
3. Open NVDA's Configuration profiles page (NVDA+CONTROL+P)
4. Create a new profile, call it say, IE.
5. Set the new profile to activate in the current application.
6. Open Browse mode settings and uncheck automatic say all on page load.
 
Now NVDA should automatically say all on page load in Browse mode in WLM, and other applications (including other web browsers), but NOT Internet Explorer.
 
If you want the default behaviour to be that say all doesn't read automatically, then follow the same procedure but set browse mode to not say say, open WLM, create the new profile, set browse mode say all.
 
Note that while that profile is active, any changes you make to the voice - eg changing the speech rate, changing the synthesizer etc, will be kept every time you go into that application.
 
Regards
 
Quentin.
 
On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 12:44 AM, Gary Metzler <gmtravel@...> wrote:
Yes, that is what I want to do.  I want the say all to read the entire message in wlm but, I don’t want it to read the entire page in ie.  Thanks,
 
From: Quentin Christensen
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2016 5:56 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: browse mode, Re: [nvda] creating a profile
 
Marisane - it might be worth posting your question as a new topic, as people may not see it in here.
 
Gary, you can certainly set up as many profiles as you like, use one across several programs etc.  I'm not quite sure I understand what you mean about say all - do you mean you don't want Internet Explorer to automatically read pages when they load?  You can set that up although that's in Browse mode settings - NVDA+control+b - "Automatic say all on page load".
 
Regards
 
Quentin.
 
On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 7:03 PM, Gary Metzler <gmtravel@...> wrote:
Hi quentin,
 
I have a question can I set up a profile to work in internet explorer to not use the say all command but, still use it in wlm?  Thanks for any help.
 
From: Quentin Christensen
Sent: Sunday, October 9, 2016 10:36 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: browse mode, Re: [nvda] creating a profile
 
Look's like Gary found what he needed, but further to your keys there John (and what you've written will work perfectly), you can also press:
 
NVDA+control+b to jump directly to the dialog.  That works for a number of other NVDA dialogs (not all, but a few), eg NVDA+control+v for voice settings, NVDA+control+k for keyboard settings, NVDA+control+d for document formatting settings etc.
 
Kind regards
 
Quentin.
 
On Sun, Oct 9, 2016 at 4:28 AM, John Sanfilippo <johnsanfilippo@...> wrote:
NVDA n, p, b, should do it.

JS



On 10/8/16 13:21, Gary Metzler  wrote:
> Hi Gene,
>
> I found the browse settings and the check box wasn’t checked.  I checked
> it and now the messages are read to the end.  Thanks again.
>
> *From:* Gene
> *Sent:* Saturday, October 8, 2016 12:55 PM
> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] creating a profile
>
> I doubt this will help but In browse mode settings in NVDA, see if the
> setting that tells NVDA to read page automatically when page loads is
> checked.  It is by default but if it isn't checked, checking it may
> solve the problem.
>
> Gene
>
> *From:* Gary Metzler
> *Sent:* Saturday, October 08, 2016 11:46 AM
> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] creating a profile
>
> I am reading in html.
>
> *From:* Gene
> *Sent:* Saturday, October 8, 2016 12:15 PM
> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] creating a profile
>
> I'm not sure.  I don't think you specified what e-mail program you are
> using.  Also, are you reading mail as plain text or as HTML.
>
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Gary Metzler
> *Sent:* Saturday, October 08, 2016 11:10 AM
> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] creating a profile
>
> HI Gene,
>
> When I opened this message it only read the first sentence.  Can this be
> changed?  Thanks,
>
> *From:* Gene
> *Sent:* Saturday, October 8, 2016 8:14 AM
> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] creating a profile
>
> When I open an e-mail message, even though my messages are read
> automatically, I manually issue the read to end command before or at the
> moment reading starts.  I find this more efficient in starting reading
> faster and avoiding material I don't want read.  I have already heard
> the subject line.  If I tell the message to be read manually, this
> material is not spoken again and the message body starts to be read.
> You may have to experiment to see how long to wait before issuing the
> command after opening a message.
>
> There are times when getting in the habit of manually issuing a command
> is superior to having something done automatically unless you know how
> to script a screen-reader to do exactly what you want it to do.  Issuing
> such a command will become automatic over time.
>
> Gene
>
> *From:* Rui Fontes
> *Sent:* Saturday, October 08, 2016 6:53 AM
> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] creating a profile
>
> Sorry, but Windows Live Mail already does that...
> And, a profil is only to set different configurations to an app or action...
>
> What you want to achieve, if it is not already done, will need an
> appmodule...
>
> Rui
>
>
> -----Mensagem Original-----
> De: Gary Metzler
> Data: 8 de outubro de 2016 11:10
> Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Assunto: [nvda] creating a profile
>
>
> Hi All,
>
> Since I am new to nvda I would like to know if it is possible to create a
> profile for windows live mail to read the entire message upon opening it?
> If so, how is this done?  Thanks for any help.Regards, Gary kn4ox
>
>
>
>
>
>





 
--
Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer
Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/



 
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Re: Opening attached files in Firefox

Cearbhall O'Meadhra
 

Thanks, Brian,

 

All solved now! I had to change a few settings to call on Adobe for pdf files so all is well now. I did not know how important the options settings were but now I do! Thanks.

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

 

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Sunday, October 9, 2016 11:33 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Opening attached files in Firefox

 

Cearbhall,

            What you've got going on right now is that Firefox is downloading the file, to the Downloads folder, which is the default for Firefox (and most other web browsers, too, unless you tweak settings) and it's not telling you what it's doing since you are using the default behavior.  If you go to the Tools menu, Options item, General pane, under Downloads there are two radio buttons:  Save files to - with a dropdown set to Downloads by default plus a browse button, and Always ask me where to save files.  If the latter is chosen every time you try to download a file you will get a dialog box pop up asking whether you want to open the file with whatever program you have set as the default for the file type (radio button chosen by default), Save file to (secondary radio button that you choose if you want to save the file somewhere), and a checkbox for "Do this automatically for files like this from now on."

              If you actually want the PDF to open within the browser for viewing you configure that in the way noted at this webpage:   https://helpx.adobe.com/acrobat/using/display-pdf-in-browser.html
--
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    ~ Lauren Bacall

    

 


Re: browse mode, Re: [nvda] creating a profile

Quentin Christensen
 

Ok, you can do that.  There are two ways, probably depending on how you want NVDA to behave in programs other than WLM or IE.

If you want the default behaviour to be that say all automatically reads on page load everywhere EXCEPT IE, then:

1. Ensure "Automatic say all on page load" is checked in NVDA's Browse mode settings (NVDA+CONTROL+B)
2. Open IE - any page.
3. Open NVDA's Configuration profiles page (NVDA+CONTROL+P)
4. Create a new profile, call it say, IE.
5. Set the new profile to activate in the current application.
6. Open Browse mode settings and uncheck automatic say all on page load.

Now NVDA should automatically say all on page load in Browse mode in WLM, and other applications (including other web browsers), but NOT Internet Explorer.

If you want the default behaviour to be that say all doesn't read automatically, then follow the same procedure but set browse mode to not say say, open WLM, create the new profile, set browse mode say all.

Note that while that profile is active, any changes you make to the voice - eg changing the speech rate, changing the synthesizer etc, will be kept every time you go into that application.

Regards

Quentin.

On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 12:44 AM, Gary Metzler <gmtravel@...> wrote:
Yes, that is what I want to do.  I want the say all to read the entire message in wlm but, I don’t want it to read the entire page in ie.  Thanks,
 
From: Quentin Christensen
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2016 5:56 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: browse mode, Re: [nvda] creating a profile
 
Marisane - it might be worth posting your question as a new topic, as people may not see it in here.
 
Gary, you can certainly set up as many profiles as you like, use one across several programs etc.  I'm not quite sure I understand what you mean about say all - do you mean you don't want Internet Explorer to automatically read pages when they load?  You can set that up although that's in Browse mode settings - NVDA+control+b - "Automatic say all on page load".
 
Regards
 
Quentin.
 
On Mon, Oct 10, 2016 at 7:03 PM, Gary Metzler <gmtravel@...> wrote:
Hi quentin,
 
I have a question can I set up a profile to work in internet explorer to not use the say all command but, still use it in wlm?  Thanks for any help.
 
From: Quentin Christensen
Sent: Sunday, October 9, 2016 10:36 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: browse mode, Re: [nvda] creating a profile
 
Look's like Gary found what he needed, but further to your keys there John (and what you've written will work perfectly), you can also press:
 
NVDA+control+b to jump directly to the dialog.  That works for a number of other NVDA dialogs (not all, but a few), eg NVDA+control+v for voice settings, NVDA+control+k for keyboard settings, NVDA+control+d for document formatting settings etc.
 
Kind regards
 
Quentin.
 
On Sun, Oct 9, 2016 at 4:28 AM, John Sanfilippo <johnsanfilippo@...> wrote:
NVDA n, p, b, should do it.

JS



On 10/8/16 13:21, Gary Metzler  wrote:
> Hi Gene,
>
> I found the browse settings and the check box wasn’t checked.  I checked
> it and now the messages are read to the end.  Thanks again.
>
> *From:* Gene
> *Sent:* Saturday, October 8, 2016 12:55 PM
> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] creating a profile
>
> I doubt this will help but In browse mode settings in NVDA, see if the
> setting that tells NVDA to read page automatically when page loads is
> checked.  It is by default but if it isn't checked, checking it may
> solve the problem.
>
> Gene
>
> *From:* Gary Metzler
> *Sent:* Saturday, October 08, 2016 11:46 AM
> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] creating a profile
>
> I am reading in html.
>
> *From:* Gene
> *Sent:* Saturday, October 8, 2016 12:15 PM
> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] creating a profile
>
> I'm not sure.  I don't think you specified what e-mail program you are
> using.  Also, are you reading mail as plain text or as HTML.
>
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Gary Metzler
> *Sent:* Saturday, October 08, 2016 11:10 AM
> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] creating a profile
>
> HI Gene,
>
> When I opened this message it only read the first sentence.  Can this be
> changed?  Thanks,
>
> *From:* Gene
> *Sent:* Saturday, October 8, 2016 8:14 AM
> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] creating a profile
>
> When I open an e-mail message, even though my messages are read
> automatically, I manually issue the read to end command before or at the
> moment reading starts.  I find this more efficient in starting reading
> faster and avoiding material I don't want read.  I have already heard
> the subject line.  If I tell the message to be read manually, this
> material is not spoken again and the message body starts to be read.
> You may have to experiment to see how long to wait before issuing the
> command after opening a message.
>
> There are times when getting in the habit of manually issuing a command
> is superior to having something done automatically unless you know how
> to script a screen-reader to do exactly what you want it to do.  Issuing
> such a command will become automatic over time.
>
> Gene
>
> *From:* Rui Fontes
> *Sent:* Saturday, October 08, 2016 6:53 AM
> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] creating a profile
>
> Sorry, but Windows Live Mail already does that...
> And, a profil is only to set different configurations to an app or action...
>
> What you want to achieve, if it is not already done, will need an
> appmodule...
>
> Rui
>
>
> -----Mensagem Original-----
> De: Gary Metzler
> Data: 8 de outubro de 2016 11:10
> Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Assunto: [nvda] creating a profile
>
>
> Hi All,
>
> Since I am new to nvda I would like to know if it is possible to create a
> profile for windows live mail to read the entire message upon opening it?
> If so, how is this done?  Thanks for any help.Regards, Gary kn4ox
>
>
>
>
>
>





 
--
Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer
Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/



 
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Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/




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Re: keyboard question

Laurie Mehta
 

Well, what you describe is not my experience.
I use my left hand-- my left pinky presses the caps lock while at the same time my left forefinger presses the letter t. It's not hard at all. Actually many "reaches" on a piano keyboard are far more challenging. (smile)

--------------------------------------------

On Mon, 10/10/16, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:


I can do it but I have no
desire to.  While
you may find the following not to be annoyingly unnatural, I
think a lot of
people would. 
 
The read title command,
insert t, can be executed
with the caps lock but how many people would be willing to
do so?  You
would either use your right hand to press the caps lock,
clearly unintended by
the design of the keyboard, or you would use your left hand
to do so and press t
with your right hand.  Again, clearly unintended by the
design of the
keyboard. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message
-----



From: Laurie
Mehta via Groups.io

Sent: Monday, October 10, 2016 4:02 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] keyboard
question

I do not have any difficulty in
the key combinations you
mentioned. I use touch typing (hands oriented on the
"home row") and I use the
caps lock as my NVDA key. These key combination reaches are
both easy and
comfortable for me. So, if a person cannot, or does not want
to, get an external
keyboard they could likely learn to manage the key
combinations
too.

HTH
--------------------------------------------
On Mon,
10/10/16, Gene <gsasner@...>

wrote:

 
 The caps lock key is on the
 left side of
the
 keyboard.  While this will be
convenient for
some
 commands that use the
 NVDA key and another key on the
right side of the keyboard,
 it is hardly

 convenient for
commands such as read tible bar, NVDA t or
 read dialog, NVDA b or

 sor doing things like turning speech on
and off,
NVDA
 s.  If you want to
 use NVDA with the intended level
of convenience, you either
 need to get
another
 keyboard or
use the lap top layout instead or you can get a
 USB numpad, which

 will have an insert key.  You can then
continue to
use
 your current
 keyboard and use the insert on the
USB
 keyboard.
  
 Gene
 
 -----
Original Message -----
 
 
 From: Louis
Maher
 
 Sent: Monday,
October 10, 2016 3:07 PM
 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
 
 Subject:
Re: [nvda]
keyboard
 question
 
 Melissa,
 
 Set
NVDA to use the caps-lock key.  I
 believe this can be done on the
NVDA opening

 menu.
 
 
 
 Regards
 Louis
Maher
 Phone: 713-444-7838
 E-mail: ljmaher@...
 
 -----Original

 Message-----
 From: nvda@nvda.groups.io
 
 [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io]
On Behalf Of Melissa Galbraith
 Sent:
Monday,
 October 10, 2016
2:41 PM
 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
 Subject:
[nvda]
 keyboard question
 
 I'm using NVDA and am
not
sure of all the
 hotkeys.  The keyboards
I am using don't have
the
 insert key, and I read in
 an article last night that the
insert key is being phased
 out.  Many of
the
 ewer
keyboarders don't feature it.  How in the
 world am I supposed to
do
 some of the commands with out

 it.?
 
 
 Melissa


Re: writing in forums on the web

Gene
 

First, what are you talking about when you refer to the web applications thing?  Are you talking about the item for getting an audio challenge so you can fill out the captcha to prove you are a human? 
 
If so, did you try the get an audio challenge option? 
Gene

Sent: Monday, October 10, 2016 4:17 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] writing in forums on the web

Trying to write in a forum on this site.


http://www.fortrefuge.com/


On 10/10/2016 4:00 PM, Antony Stone wrote:
> Not all web forums work the same way (either for blind, or sighted people).
>
> Give us an example of what you're trying to work with, and we might be able to
> help you find out whether it works or not, but I'm sorry, there is no single
> answer which works for all sites.
>
>
> Antony.
>
> On Monday 10 October 2016 at 20:55:29, Rayette Rucker wrote:
>
>> So, how do I fill out forums on the web with the web applications thing
>> with NVDA?

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Re: keyboard question

Chris Mullins
 

From a touch typing perspective, an NVDA modifier key on each side of the keyboard is very useful. The other Insert key between the main qwerty section and the number keypad as described by Antony can also be mapped as an NVDA modifier key. This is called the extended insert key and can be activated by checking the box in the Preferences/Keyboard settings of the NVDA menu.

Cheers
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Laurie Mehta via Groups.io
Sent: 10 October 2016 22:02
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] keyboard question

I do not have any difficulty in the key combinations you mentioned. I use touch typing (hands oriented on the "home row") and I use the caps lock as my NVDA key. These key combination reaches are both easy and comfortable for me. So, if a person cannot, or does not want to, get an external keyboard they could likely learn to manage the key combinations too.

HTH
--------------------------------------------
On Mon, 10/10/16, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:


The caps lock key is on the
left side of the
keyboard. While this will be convenient for some commands that use the NVDA key and another key on the right side of the keyboard, it is hardly convenient for commands such as read tible bar, NVDA t or read dialog, NVDA b or sor doing things like turning speech on and off, NVDA s. If you want to use NVDA with the intended level of convenience, you either need to get another keyboard or use the lap top layout instead or you can get a USB numpad, which will have an insert key. You can then continue to use your current keyboard and use the insert on the USB keyboard.

Gene

----- Original Message -----


From: Louis Maher

Sent: Monday, October 10, 2016 3:07 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] keyboard
question

Melissa,

Set NVDA to use the caps-lock key. I
believe this can be done on the NVDA opening menu.



Regards
Louis Maher
Phone: 713-444-7838
E-mail: ljmaher@...

-----Original
Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io

[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Melissa Galbraith
Sent: Monday,
October 10, 2016 2:41 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda]
keyboard question

I'm using NVDA and am not sure of all the
hotkeys. The keyboards I am using don't have the
insert key, and I read in
an article last night that the insert key is being phased
out. Many of the
ewer keyboarders don't feature it. How in the
world am I supposed to do
some of the commands with out
it.?


Melissa


Re: keyboard question

Gene
 

I can do it but I have no desire to.  While you may find the following not to be annoyingly unnatural, I think a lot of people would. 
 
The read title command, insert t, can be executed with the caps lock but how many people would be willing to do so?  You would either use your right hand to press the caps lock, clearly unintended by the design of the keyboard, or you would use your left hand to do so and press t with your right hand.  Again, clearly unintended by the design of the keyboard. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2016 4:02 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] keyboard question

I do not have any difficulty in the key combinations you mentioned. I use touch typing (hands oriented on the "home row") and I use the caps lock as my NVDA key. These key combination reaches are both easy and comfortable for me. So, if a person cannot, or does not want to, get an external keyboard they could likely learn to manage the key combinations too.

HTH
--------------------------------------------
On Mon, 10/10/16, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

 
 The caps lock key is on the
 left side of the
 keyboard.  While this will be convenient for some
 commands that use the
 NVDA key and another key on the right side of the keyboard,
 it is hardly
 convenient for commands such as read tible bar, NVDA t or
 read dialog, NVDA b or
 sor doing things like turning speech on and off, NVDA
 s.  If you want to
 use NVDA with the intended level of convenience, you either
 need to get another
 keyboard or use the lap top layout instead or you can get a
 USB numpad, which
 will have an insert key.  You can then continue to use
 your current
 keyboard and use the insert on the USB
 keyboard.
  
 Gene
 
 ----- Original Message -----
 
 
 From: Louis Maher
 
 Sent: Monday, October 10, 2016 3:07 PM
 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
 
 Subject: Re: [nvda] keyboard
 question
 
 Melissa,
 
 Set NVDA to use the caps-lock key.  I
 believe this can be done on the NVDA opening
 menu.
 
 
 
 Regards
 Louis Maher
 Phone: 713-444-7838
 E-mail: ljmaher@...
 
 -----Original
 Message-----
 From: nvda@nvda.groups.io
 
 [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Melissa Galbraith
 Sent: Monday,
 October 10, 2016 2:41 PM
 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
 Subject: [nvda]
 keyboard question
 
 I'm using NVDA and am not sure of all the
 hotkeys.  The keyboards I am using don't have the
 insert key, and I read in
 an article last night that the insert key is being phased
 out.  Many of the
 ewer keyboarders don't feature it.  How in the
 world am I supposed to do
 some of the commands with out
 it.?
 
 
 Melissa