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Windows 10 App Essentials add-on and Skype UWP v11.13

 

Hello,

In version 11.13 of the Skype UWP app, now there are some keyboard shortcuts for easier use. Which is very nice, by the way. But when we use it in combination with the "Windows 10 App Essentials" add-on, there are keyboard shortcut conflicts. For example, now Skype itself provides keyboard shortcuts to go to recent conversations list, contact list and the list of chat bots. But the add-on also provides similar functionality with the same keyboard shortcuts, which are Alt+1, Alt+2 and Alt+3. The add-on uses Alt+3 to go to the chat edit text field, but I think that it should be changed to for example Alt+4, in order to avoid the conflict. As for Alt+1 and Alt+2, I think those should be removed from the add-on, since they provide similar functionality from Skype itself. Joseph, what do you say?

Thanks much in advance!

______
Best wishes,
Kostadin Kolev


Re: Intro and help needed

Brandt Steenkamp <brandt.steenkamp@...>
 

I am looking at the code for anything that doesn't make sense, and honestly, as a human with 0 ability in programming, I hope for the best.


On 4/12/2017 12:26 PM, Jacob Kruger wrote:

Cool - as long as you can get it working/sorted.


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On 2017-04-12 12:06, Brandt Steenkamp wrote:

Hi, thanks


I went a different root though. I modified the downloaded package and reinstalled. When everything is fixed on my end I will hand it back to the original author for publication.


On 4/12/2017 11:58 AM, Jacob Kruger wrote:

Brandt, to get to the add-ons under an installed version of NVDA, I find simplest method is windows key + R, type in %appData% and hit enter, in that folder, look for NVDA, and, under that, look for addons folder, and, there you should fine a sub-folder per add-on, and, in it's appmodules sub-folder, you should find the .py file he's referring to, which is a form of python source code text file.


HTH


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."
On 2017-04-12 11:44, Brandt Steenkamp wrote:

How would I go about doing this?


On 4/12/2017 2:44 AM, Tyler Spivey wrote:
Make sure the baud rate in the addon and the Doubletalk match.
Taking the addon from Jeff's site, on line 74 of doubletalk.py we have:

  port = serial.serial_for_url(PORT, 12000)

I don't know why it's set to 12000. Try changing it to 9600.

On 4/11/2017 12:41 PM, Brandt Steenkamp wrote:
Hi there folks,


I am a relative new-comer to NVDA, though I am familiar with most of the
other screen Readers out there.


I find myself with an interesting issue, namely that my DoubleTalk LT,
connected via a Serial to USB adapter does not want to connect to NVDA,
and when it does, it talks gibberish. Any help on this issue would be
much appreciated.


Thanks so long.a


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nvda not spelling suggested words in Spell Checker using Word 2010

Dan Thompson
 

Greeting to all

When using Word 2010 spell checker, NVDA will spell an error, but when tabing into the list of suggested words will not spell them.  I know speech is to automatically spell the error. However, when in the list of suggested replacements, holding NVDA Key and tapping up arrow will not spell the replacement suggested.

What feature do I not have checked on?

Thanks for any advice in advance.

 

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Re: Intro and help needed

Jacob Kruger
 

Cool - as long as you can get it working/sorted.


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."
On 2017-04-12 12:06, Brandt Steenkamp wrote:

Hi, thanks


I went a different root though. I modified the downloaded package and reinstalled. When everything is fixed on my end I will hand it back to the original author for publication.


On 4/12/2017 11:58 AM, Jacob Kruger wrote:

Brandt, to get to the add-ons under an installed version of NVDA, I find simplest method is windows key + R, type in %appData% and hit enter, in that folder, look for NVDA, and, under that, look for addons folder, and, there you should fine a sub-folder per add-on, and, in it's appmodules sub-folder, you should find the .py file he's referring to, which is a form of python source code text file.


HTH


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."
On 2017-04-12 11:44, Brandt Steenkamp wrote:

How would I go about doing this?


On 4/12/2017 2:44 AM, Tyler Spivey wrote:
Make sure the baud rate in the addon and the Doubletalk match.
Taking the addon from Jeff's site, on line 74 of doubletalk.py we have:

  port = serial.serial_for_url(PORT, 12000)

I don't know why it's set to 12000. Try changing it to 9600.

On 4/11/2017 12:41 PM, Brandt Steenkamp wrote:
Hi there folks,


I am a relative new-comer to NVDA, though I am familiar with most of the
other screen Readers out there.


I find myself with an interesting issue, namely that my DoubleTalk LT,
connected via a Serial to USB adapter does not want to connect to NVDA,
and when it does, it talks gibberish. Any help on this issue would be
much appreciated.


Thanks so long.a


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Re: windows 10 creators update version, along with NVDA

Jacob Kruger
 

Shaun, are you referring to 2017.1? That's why have now moved over to next snapshot - 2017.2 hasn't been released yet?


Jacob Kruger
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On 2017-04-12 12:04, Shaun Everiss wrote:
well 2017.2 and the latest win10 apps worked.

I didn't lose much at all, in fact I lost nothing.




On 12/04/2017 9:47 p.m., Jacob Kruger wrote:
One thing was glad of/quite impressed by was that on first bootup after the upgrade/install process, besides being able to launch narrator before anything else was really happening - it was in last stages of setup wizard - one of the first active app that came up was classicshell.net, telling me it had to reconfigure itself, and, it then immediately told me it had been successful.


So, seems like of all the software had installed here, windows 10 upgrade only really seemed to remove the pseudo-form of outlook express that use for a separate e-mail account - nothing major, and, had pretty much expected it to happen.


Also think that, while not sure it was really an issue, should maybe have switched over to the NVDA next snapshot before upgrading, but anyway.


Stay well


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2017-04-12 11:23, Supanut Leepaisomboon wrote:

Hi,

I updated my laptop to Windows 10 Creator's Update, and things seem to work fine. Be aware, if you attempt to update from version 1607 via a disk image and select to only keep files, you may encounter an issue where some settings, like some start menu settings, won't save properly. I contacted Microsoft support and they remoted into my laptop, created a new test account, and the issue was not present in the test account. So today in order to fix the issue I decided to reset my computer, rather than using the test account that the Microsoft support personnel created.





Re: Intro and help needed

Brandt Steenkamp <brandt.steenkamp@...>
 

Hi, thanks


I went a different root though. I modified the downloaded package and reinstalled. When everything is fixed on my end I will hand it back to the original author for publication.


On 4/12/2017 11:58 AM, Jacob Kruger wrote:

Brandt, to get to the add-ons under an installed version of NVDA, I find simplest method is windows key + R, type in %appData% and hit enter, in that folder, look for NVDA, and, under that, look for addons folder, and, there you should fine a sub-folder per add-on, and, in it's appmodules sub-folder, you should find the .py file he's referring to, which is a form of python source code text file.


HTH


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."
On 2017-04-12 11:44, Brandt Steenkamp wrote:

How would I go about doing this?


On 4/12/2017 2:44 AM, Tyler Spivey wrote:
Make sure the baud rate in the addon and the Doubletalk match.
Taking the addon from Jeff's site, on line 74 of doubletalk.py we have:

  port = serial.serial_for_url(PORT, 12000)

I don't know why it's set to 12000. Try changing it to 9600.

On 4/11/2017 12:41 PM, Brandt Steenkamp wrote:
Hi there folks,


I am a relative new-comer to NVDA, though I am familiar with most of the
other screen Readers out there.


I find myself with an interesting issue, namely that my DoubleTalk LT,
connected via a Serial to USB adapter does not want to connect to NVDA,
and when it does, it talks gibberish. Any help on this issue would be
much appreciated.


Thanks so long.a


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Re: windows 10 creators update version, along with NVDA

 

well 2017.2 and the latest win10 apps worked.

I didn't lose much at all, in fact I lost nothing.

On 12/04/2017 9:47 p.m., Jacob Kruger wrote:
One thing was glad of/quite impressed by was that on first bootup after the upgrade/install process, besides being able to launch narrator before anything else was really happening - it was in last stages of setup wizard - one of the first active app that came up was classicshell.net, telling me it had to reconfigure itself, and, it then immediately told me it had been successful.


So, seems like of all the software had installed here, windows 10 upgrade only really seemed to remove the pseudo-form of outlook express that use for a separate e-mail account - nothing major, and, had pretty much expected it to happen.


Also think that, while not sure it was really an issue, should maybe have switched over to the NVDA next snapshot before upgrading, but anyway.


Stay well


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2017-04-12 11:23, Supanut Leepaisomboon wrote:

Hi,

I updated my laptop to Windows 10 Creator's Update, and things seem to work fine. Be aware, if you attempt to update from version 1607 via a disk image and select to only keep files, you may encounter an issue where some settings, like some start menu settings, won't save properly. I contacted Microsoft support and they remoted into my laptop, created a new test account, and the issue was not present in the test account. So today in order to fix the issue I decided to reset my computer, rather than using the test account that the Microsoft support personnel created.


Re: windows 10 creators update version, along with NVDA

 

Why bother with the reset.

After the update I went through the settings setting things as they should be.

Why bother updating if you will reset, why not just get a fresh image and reformat and fix everything that way if you are set on a reinstall.

A good reformat always fixes everything and makes your system work as it should.

In fact its the first thing you should do to fix any issue reformat and the problem will go away.


To the rest as you can see I am being extremely sarcastic.

A reset is almost a reformat and there is no need for resetting with settings and stuff.

On 12/04/2017 9:23 p.m., Supanut Leepaisomboon wrote:
Hi,

I updated my laptop to Windows 10 Creator's Update, and things seem to work fine. Be aware, if you attempt to update from version 1607 via a disk image and select to only keep files, you may encounter an issue where some settings, like some start menu settings, won't save properly. I contacted Microsoft support and they remoted into my laptop, created a new test account, and the issue was not present in the test account. So today in order to fix the issue I decided to reset my computer, rather than using the test account that the Microsoft support personnel created.


Re: Intro and help needed

Jacob Kruger
 

Brandt, to get to the add-ons under an installed version of NVDA, I find simplest method is windows key + R, type in %appData% and hit enter, in that folder, look for NVDA, and, under that, look for addons folder, and, there you should fine a sub-folder per add-on, and, in it's appmodules sub-folder, you should find the .py file he's referring to, which is a form of python source code text file.


HTH


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."
On 2017-04-12 11:44, Brandt Steenkamp wrote:

How would I go about doing this?


On 4/12/2017 2:44 AM, Tyler Spivey wrote:
Make sure the baud rate in the addon and the Doubletalk match.
Taking the addon from Jeff's site, on line 74 of doubletalk.py we have:

  port = serial.serial_for_url(PORT, 12000)

I don't know why it's set to 12000. Try changing it to 9600.

On 4/11/2017 12:41 PM, Brandt Steenkamp wrote:
Hi there folks,


I am a relative new-comer to NVDA, though I am familiar with most of the
other screen Readers out there.


I find myself with an interesting issue, namely that my DoubleTalk LT,
connected via a Serial to USB adapter does not want to connect to NVDA,
and when it does, it talks gibberish. Any help on this issue would be
much appreciated.


Thanks so long.a


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Re: Intro and help needed

Brandt Steenkamp <brandt.steenkamp@...>
 

OK, ignore my previous reply. Fixed the {port = serial.serial_for_url(PORT, 12000)} line in the code. Now I am getting extraneous crap before the Doubletalk actually gets to the point.


Is there anything in the code that would help with this? I am no programmer!


On 4/12/2017 2:44 AM, Tyler Spivey wrote:
Make sure the baud rate in the addon and the Doubletalk match.
Taking the addon from Jeff's site, on line 74 of doubletalk.py we have:

  port = serial.serial_for_url(PORT, 12000)

I don't know why it's set to 12000. Try changing it to 9600.

On 4/11/2017 12:41 PM, Brandt Steenkamp wrote:
Hi there folks,


I am a relative new-comer to NVDA, though I am familiar with most of the
other screen Readers out there.


I find myself with an interesting issue, namely that my DoubleTalk LT,
connected via a Serial to USB adapter does not want to connect to NVDA,
and when it does, it talks gibberish. Any help on this issue would be
much appreciated.


Thanks so long.a


--



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Re: windows 10 creators update version, along with NVDA

Jacob Kruger
 

One thing was glad of/quite impressed by was that on first bootup after the upgrade/install process, besides being able to launch narrator before anything else was really happening - it was in last stages of setup wizard - one of the first active app that came up was classicshell.net, telling me it had to reconfigure itself, and, it then immediately told me it had been successful.


So, seems like of all the software had installed here, windows 10 upgrade only really seemed to remove the pseudo-form of outlook express that use for a separate e-mail account - nothing major, and, had pretty much expected it to happen.


Also think that, while not sure it was really an issue, should maybe have switched over to the NVDA next snapshot before upgrading, but anyway.


Stay well


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."
On 2017-04-12 11:23, Supanut Leepaisomboon wrote:

Hi,

I updated my laptop to Windows 10 Creator's Update, and things seem to work fine. Be aware, if you attempt to update from version 1607 via a disk image and select to only keep files, you may encounter an issue where some settings, like some start menu settings, won't save properly. I contacted Microsoft support and they remoted into my laptop, created a  new test account, and the issue was not present in the test account. So today in order to fix the issue I decided to reset my computer, rather than using the test account that the Microsoft support personnel created.



Re: Intro and help needed

Brandt Steenkamp <brandt.steenkamp@...>
 

How would I go about doing this?


On 4/12/2017 2:44 AM, Tyler Spivey wrote:
Make sure the baud rate in the addon and the Doubletalk match.
Taking the addon from Jeff's site, on line 74 of doubletalk.py we have:

  port = serial.serial_for_url(PORT, 12000)

I don't know why it's set to 12000. Try changing it to 9600.

On 4/11/2017 12:41 PM, Brandt Steenkamp wrote:
Hi there folks,


I am a relative new-comer to NVDA, though I am familiar with most of the
other screen Readers out there.


I find myself with an interesting issue, namely that my DoubleTalk LT,
connected via a Serial to USB adapter does not want to connect to NVDA,
and when it does, it talks gibberish. Any help on this issue would be
much appreciated.


Thanks so long.a


--



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Brandt Steenkamp



Sent from Thunderbird



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Phone: +27605259181 <calto://+27605259181/>

Email: Here <mailto:brandt.steenkamp@...>

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--

 

Warm regards,

 

Brandt Steenkamp

 

Sent from Thunderbird

 

Contact me:

 

Phone: +27605259181

Email: Here

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Re: windows 10 creators update version, along with NVDA

 

Hi,

I updated my laptop to Windows 10 Creator's Update, and things seem to work fine. Be aware, if you attempt to update from version 1607 via a disk image and select to only keep files, you may encounter an issue where some settings, like some start menu settings, won't save properly. I contacted Microsoft support and they remoted into my laptop, created a  new test account, and the issue was not present in the test account. So today in order to fix the issue I decided to reset my computer, rather than using the test account that the Microsoft support personnel created.


Re: Reading of numbers

Robert Mendoza
 

Hi, Quentin!

In relation to my earlier post, this happened when reviewing the said numbers not by doing typing characters. This was tested to different speech synthesis which are the eSpeak ng and Microsoft SAPI5.

Robert Mendoza
On 4/12/2017 4:23 PM, Robert Mendoza wrote:

Hi, Quentin!

Sorry for the late response. I would like to add to my note that after doing a test to the speech synthesis for the Microsoft version 5, I got the same result of reading or having output. If there is a chance do you have means to mitigate this to fix this in the speech dictionaries so that nvda could read it precisely and correct this occurrences.  Again, the speech mentioned for the version 5 is the one that is built to the version 2017.1.

Robert Mendoza
On 4/12/2017 1:52 PM, Robert Mendoza wrote:

Hi, Quentin!


The test normally occurs when using in the eSpeak ng synthesizer which I usually used with with my test, but never had a chance to play it to Microsoft speech version 5. Ever since I never had a chance either the speech settings is change as well.

Robert Mendoza
On 4/12/2017 1:29 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
Hi Robert,

Can you please clarify what behaviour you are getting vs what you expect exactly?

When I write 1.49.1 in Word or NotePad, exactly what is read depends on the synthesizer I am using:

Using eSpeak NG, NVDA reads it as "one point four nine point one"
Using Microsoft Speech API Version 5, NVDA reads "one dot forty-nine dot one"

The exact text read will depend on the synthesizer, unless you have created an entry in the speech dictionary which covers the text encountered.

I did try just 1.49 and both synthesizers read it as "one point four nine".  At a guess, both synthesizers see this is a decimal number and read the numbers after the decimal point individually (since you wouldn't usually say "one point forty-nine".  There isn't as clear a rule on numbers with multiple dots / decimal places.  For instance, I've heard "255" in the middle of an IP address pronounced as both "two five five" and "two hundred and fifty-five".

Regards

Quentin.

On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 11:15 PM, Robert Mendoza <lowvisiontek@...> wrote:
While testing earlier, just noticed that nvda reports the set of number 1.49.1
Instead of saying this proper by, 1 point 49 point 1

Normally, this is happening when the first one number occurs. Or, I may say the one's place value of digit after the period, as stated above mentioned sample.  Is there a way to correct it to the speech settings to make it more precise of readings numbers. I appreciate your advice. or, perhaps someone could replicate this case. Otherwise, this is a sort of a fix that I would needed to one users or primarily errors in nvda. Again, I'm using the latest version of release of 2017.1 to my windows 10 Pro machine.


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Re: abby finereader 14. Re: [nvda] need accessible OCR software for scanning books and printed materials

Gene
 

It's easy, though a few extra steps to select all, control a, move to a program like notepad and paste the page in.  After you scan you can do this for every page scanned.  Also, I haven't done this so I'm not sure how, but it is my understanding that you can scan and have the recognition results placed in Microsoft Word automatically. 
 
I've said before that Omnipage had a bug ffor years that almost no one discusses.  Whether the bug is still there, I don't know but I wouldn't assume it isn't.  When recognizing two pages at once or text in columns, Omnipage used to, and may still, randomly misplace text.  It may just be a letter or it may be a number of words in more than one sentence.  I haven't used Omnipage so I can't compare it's features and ease of use to Fine Reader but if I were considering Omnipage, I would test it thoroughly to see if the bug is still present before purchasing. 
 
The reason I know about the bug is that Openbook used to use Omnipage exclusively for recognition.  I used Openbook for many years and the bug was there.  Then, for a time, you could choose recognition engines.  When I chose Omnipage, the bug was there.  When I used Fine Reader, it wasn't.  This was over a period of perhaps seven years.  Be thorough in evaluating Omnipage. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2017 2:57 AM
Subject: abby finereader 14. Re: [nvda] need accessible OCR software for scanning books and printed materials

Hello,
I read someone have finereader14.
I have a copy of the 12 and NVDA is not able to read scanned documents
because that window is not accessible, you must use review cursor but it
is absolutely not a good solution. On finereader14 do you have the same
issue?

I'm using KnfbReader on windows10, it works well!



Il 11/04/2017 04:56, Shaun Everiss ha scritto:
> Yes I have abbyy fine reader 14 standard.
>
> It is one of the cheapest desktop scanners round, omnipage costs a
> bundle, and the things like k1000 cost  a really large bundle though
> they are nice.
>
> When I was in school and on the school network one of my friends gave me
> a cracked coppy of k1000 which I used on a lot of things back in the xp
> days.
>
> But I'd have to get my own later on and it wasn't worth doing or using it.
>
> Sadly abyy costs almost as much to upgrade as it does to buy but oh well.
>
>
>
>
> On 11/04/2017 2:46 p.m., Alexander Masic wrote:
>> But wat's wrong with Abbyy? In my opinion it works fine. particulary
>> if you scan in to Microsoft word. You can purchase KNFB reader, but
>> only if you have windows 10, not below that, It has limited support
>> for other languages. hehe surprisely Swedish is one of them, regulary
>> we always have to wait.
>>
>> If i want scan something in to word, i am stil using Abbyy finereader,
>> find it mor convinient, but check something i use knfb reader.
>>
>>
>>
>> Den 2017-04-11 kl. 02:44, skrev Shaun Everiss:
>>> Though it is now 100 bucks now.
>>>
>>> I got it on the first release special and its now linked to my ms
>>> account and perminantly mine.
>>>
>>> I don't need it actually but when I saw the add well I decided there
>>> and then I'd get and link it for when I do.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/04/2017 12:39 p.m., David Tanner wrote:
>>>> I would recommend K in FB reader for windows 10. I have used it many
>>>> times with NVDA very successfully.
>>>>
>>>> David Tanner
>>>>
>>>> >From my iPhone 7
>>>>
>>>>> On Apr 10, 2017, at 4:59 PM, tsengel
>>>>> <tsengel.screen.reader@...> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> hello Lister
>>>>>
>>>>> i use NVDA and i need to scan printed books and materials
>>>>> so if you have any accessible OCR software solution
>>>>> please let me know and help
>>>>> i have only abby-Fine-Reader version 12
>>>>> you have other accessible software please share to my works
>>>>> and I would greatly appreciate it if you kindly give me some
>>>>> feedback on
>>>>> regards
>>>>> M. Tsengel
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>




Re: abby finereader 14. Re: [nvda] need accessible OCR software for scanning books and printed materials

Alexander Masic
 

But on other hand, with finereader you can scan direct in to word or pdf reader, and that way is very accessible. cant se any problems .



Den 2017-04-12 kl. 09:57, skrev Simone Dal Maso:

Hello,
I read someone have finereader14.
I have a copy of the 12 and NVDA is not able to read scanned documents because that window is not accessible, you must use review cursor but it is absolutely not a good solution. On finereader14 do you have the same issue?

I'm using KnfbReader on windows10, it works well!



Il 11/04/2017 04:56, Shaun Everiss ha scritto:
Yes I have abbyy fine reader 14 standard.

It is one of the cheapest desktop scanners round, omnipage costs a
bundle, and the things like k1000 cost a really large bundle though
they are nice.

When I was in school and on the school network one of my friends gave me
a cracked coppy of k1000 which I used on a lot of things back in the xp
days.

But I'd have to get my own later on and it wasn't worth doing or using it.

Sadly abyy costs almost as much to upgrade as it does to buy but oh well.




On 11/04/2017 2:46 p.m., Alexander Masic wrote:
But wat's wrong with Abbyy? In my opinion it works fine. particulary
if you scan in to Microsoft word. You can purchase KNFB reader, but
only if you have windows 10, not below that, It has limited support
for other languages. hehe surprisely Swedish is one of them, regulary
we always have to wait.

If i want scan something in to word, i am stil using Abbyy finereader,
find it mor convinient, but check something i use knfb reader.



Den 2017-04-11 kl. 02:44, skrev Shaun Everiss:
Though it is now 100 bucks now.

I got it on the first release special and its now linked to my ms
account and perminantly mine.

I don't need it actually but when I saw the add well I decided there
and then I'd get and link it for when I do.




On 11/04/2017 12:39 p.m., David Tanner wrote:
I would recommend K in FB reader for windows 10. I have used it many
times with NVDA very successfully.

David Tanner

From my iPhone 7
On Apr 10, 2017, at 4:59 PM, tsengel
<tsengel.screen.reader@gmail.com> wrote:

hello Lister

i use NVDA and i need to scan printed books and materials
so if you have any accessible OCR software solution
please let me know and help
i have only abby-Fine-Reader version 12
you have other accessible software please share to my works
and I would greatly appreciate it if you kindly give me some
feedback on
regards
M. Tsengel















Re: April 17th: Joseph Lee to present "NVDA: Possibilities and Opportunities in 2017" at Accessible World Tek Talk

Webmaster Deweer <webmaster_deweer@...>
 

Dear Joseph,

 

I really want to participate, but the time is a problem. I live in Belgium, so that’s the UTC+02:00 time zone. I cannot participate at 02:00 AM…

Is someone going to make a recording of the presentation, or not?

 

Thanks in advance!

 

Warm regards,

Jordy Deweer.

 

Van: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] Namens Joseph Lee
Verzonden: dinsdag 11 april 2017 6:30
Aan: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Onderwerp: [nvda] April 17th: Joseph Lee to present "NVDA: Possibilities and Opportunities in 2017" at Accessible World Tek Talk

 

Dear NVDA community,

 

On April 17, 2017, I (Joseph Lee) will be giving a talk at Accessible World Tek Talk about NVDA community updates in 2017, focusing on recent developments, new features and some things under development.

 

Press release:

If there is one phrase to describe NonVisual Desktop Access, it is “possibilities and opportunities”. NVDA, the free, open-source, community-driven screen reader continues to open opportunities and possibilities, including ability to read Kindle books, improved support for Microsoft Office and Edge, and progress made in supporting various Windows 10 features. Combined with the new NVDA Expert certification program, continued partnerships with Mozilla, Microsoft and other companies, and enthusiasm of users continues to drive NVDA’s progress in 2017. Joseph Lee, a contributor to NVDA screen reader, Windows Insider and a certified NVDA Expert, will tell you what NVDA community has been up to, including some of the new features, certification program, upcoming NVDACon, and demonstrate latest developments in supporting Edge and Windows 10 Creators Update.

 

Topics to be covered:

 

  • What’s new in NVDA since 2016.3 with demonstrations of select features.
  • Improved support for Microsoft Word, including sections and text columns.
  • Improved support for Microsoft Excel, including cell border announcement and sheet location.
  • Progress in Windows 10 and Edge support, including first letter navigation in Edge, reading PDF documents, story behind audio ducking in Creators Update.
  • Other features, including reading Kindle books, disabling add-ons, GUI improvements, line indentation tone and others.
  • Community updates, including certification program, NVDACon 2017, DictationBridge updates.

 

Presentation details:

 

  • Date: April 17, 2017.
  • Time: 5 PM Pacific (8 PM Eastern, 00:00 UTC, 10 AM on April 18th for some).
  • Place: Accessible World Tek Talk Training Room (www.accessibleworld.org).

 

To participate, you need to install TCConference software. Go to accessibleworld.org, choose Pat Price Tek Talk Training Room link, download and install the conferencing system, then log onto the room.

 

Hope to see you on April 17th.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: Reading of numbers

Robert Mendoza
 

Hi, Quentin!

Sorry for the late response. I would like to add to my note that after doing a test to the speech synthesis for the Microsoft version 5, I got the same result of reading or having output. If there is a chance do you have means to mitigate this to fix this in the speech dictionaries so that nvda could read it precisely and correct this occurrences.  Again, the speech mentioned for the version 5 is the one that is built to the version 2017.1.

Robert Mendoza
On 4/12/2017 1:52 PM, Robert Mendoza wrote:

Hi, Quentin!


The test normally occurs when using in the eSpeak ng synthesizer which I usually used with with my test, but never had a chance to play it to Microsoft speech version 5. Ever since I never had a chance either the speech settings is change as well.

Robert Mendoza
On 4/12/2017 1:29 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
Hi Robert,

Can you please clarify what behaviour you are getting vs what you expect exactly?

When I write 1.49.1 in Word or NotePad, exactly what is read depends on the synthesizer I am using:

Using eSpeak NG, NVDA reads it as "one point four nine point one"
Using Microsoft Speech API Version 5, NVDA reads "one dot forty-nine dot one"

The exact text read will depend on the synthesizer, unless you have created an entry in the speech dictionary which covers the text encountered.

I did try just 1.49 and both synthesizers read it as "one point four nine".  At a guess, both synthesizers see this is a decimal number and read the numbers after the decimal point individually (since you wouldn't usually say "one point forty-nine".  There isn't as clear a rule on numbers with multiple dots / decimal places.  For instance, I've heard "255" in the middle of an IP address pronounced as both "two five five" and "two hundred and fifty-five".

Regards

Quentin.

On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 11:15 PM, Robert Mendoza <lowvisiontek@...> wrote:
While testing earlier, just noticed that nvda reports the set of number 1.49.1
Instead of saying this proper by, 1 point 49 point 1

Normally, this is happening when the first one number occurs. Or, I may say the one's place value of digit after the period, as stated above mentioned sample.  Is there a way to correct it to the speech settings to make it more precise of readings numbers. I appreciate your advice. or, perhaps someone could replicate this case. Otherwise, this is a sort of a fix that I would needed to one users or primarily errors in nvda. Again, I'm using the latest version of release of 2017.1 to my windows 10 Pro machine.


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abby finereader 14. Re: [nvda] need accessible OCR software for scanning books and printed materials

Simone Dal Maso
 

Hello,
I read someone have finereader14.
I have a copy of the 12 and NVDA is not able to read scanned documents because that window is not accessible, you must use review cursor but it is absolutely not a good solution. On finereader14 do you have the same issue?

I'm using KnfbReader on windows10, it works well!

Il 11/04/2017 04:56, Shaun Everiss ha scritto:
Yes I have abbyy fine reader 14 standard.

It is one of the cheapest desktop scanners round, omnipage costs a
bundle, and the things like k1000 cost a really large bundle though
they are nice.

When I was in school and on the school network one of my friends gave me
a cracked coppy of k1000 which I used on a lot of things back in the xp
days.

But I'd have to get my own later on and it wasn't worth doing or using it.

Sadly abyy costs almost as much to upgrade as it does to buy but oh well.




On 11/04/2017 2:46 p.m., Alexander Masic wrote:
But wat's wrong with Abbyy? In my opinion it works fine. particulary
if you scan in to Microsoft word. You can purchase KNFB reader, but
only if you have windows 10, not below that, It has limited support
for other languages. hehe surprisely Swedish is one of them, regulary
we always have to wait.

If i want scan something in to word, i am stil using Abbyy finereader,
find it mor convinient, but check something i use knfb reader.



Den 2017-04-11 kl. 02:44, skrev Shaun Everiss:
Though it is now 100 bucks now.

I got it on the first release special and its now linked to my ms
account and perminantly mine.

I don't need it actually but when I saw the add well I decided there
and then I'd get and link it for when I do.




On 11/04/2017 12:39 p.m., David Tanner wrote:
I would recommend K in FB reader for windows 10. I have used it many
times with NVDA very successfully.

David Tanner

From my iPhone 7
On Apr 10, 2017, at 4:59 PM, tsengel
<tsengel.screen.reader@gmail.com> wrote:

hello Lister

i use NVDA and i need to scan printed books and materials
so if you have any accessible OCR software solution
please let me know and help
i have only abby-Fine-Reader version 12
you have other accessible software please share to my works
and I would greatly appreciate it if you kindly give me some
feedback on
regards
M. Tsengel













windows 10 creators update version, along with NVDA

Jacob Kruger
 

FWIW, did the windows 10 upgrade/update last night, and, while it initially seemed unhappy about cooperating with NVDA 2017.1, after I switched over to a portable copy of same version, and then switched back to installed version it seemed alright, but, have still updated to latest next/dev snapshot of NVDA as an installed version for now, just in case.


Either way, are there any specific recommendations/guidelines, or things I should avoid doing?


And, secondly, I was under the impression that audio-ducking wouldn't cooperate with version 1703, of windows 10 (64 bit, FWIW), but, it seems quite happy/comfortable?


Stay well


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."