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Re: Headers in Microsoft Word

Christo Vorster
 

Hi Simon

I use the Office 2003 command, ALT+V and then H to read my headers. There might be other shortcuts that work, but for me this is the one I prefer.

Cheers

Christo Vorster (Worcester, South Africa)

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Simon Jaeger
Sent: Saturday, 25 February 2017 8:05 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Headers in Microsoft Word

hi,

Any idea how I can read these? Seems like a stupid thing to install a 40 minute JAWS demo for.


Simon


Re: Windows 10 App Essentials confusion

 

Well when I checked for the update it installed well rather opened the brouser to the addon download.
I thought the idea was to download it itself and install it itself.

On 28/02/2017 2:18 a.m., Chris Mullins wrote:
Hi

I am rather confused about the update feature of W10AE. First of all I
can't find an update button associated with the app entry for version 17.03
in the manage add-ons dialog. I activated the help button which took me to
the download page from where I downloaded the stable version 17.03A. I then
checked it appeared in the manage add-ons dialog and it was running
normally. A few moments later a dialog appeared saying there was a new
update of W10AE available, would I like to install it. I replied yes and it
installed. On checking the Manage add-ons dialog again, it showed the
version as 2000225DEV was installed



I have never knowing installed any development versions, so I don't
understand why it has suddenly started doing this. Advice appreciated.



Cheers

Chris .


Uploading to Sound Cloud

Ben J. Bloomgren
 

I’m gonna post this to several lists, so beware.

 

For those of you who use Soundcloud, how do you upload thereto? The iPhone app only lets me stream and download.

 

Ben

 

 

 


Re: Thanks, congratulations, and any info about sales force

 

awesome.
<happy smily>
please keep us posted

On 2/24/2017 3:15 PM, erik burggraaf wrote:
Hello all, I think today was a good day for NVDA, it's developers, it's community, and well, modest little oll me.

I'm expecting to be hired by a company that does business to business technical support. Today, they finally brought me in for my first consultation. Six weeks ago, I registered my need for a screen reader by way of accomodation, and recommended jaws and NVDA to be tested for compatibility with the company's software. This morning, when I arrived for my consultation, I found the company had opted for NVDA.
They sited significant performance breaks over jaws, and the fact that they have python programmers on staff to handle scripting as reasons for choosing NVDA as well as the fact that I had stated a preference for using it.

This morning I demonstrated that NVDA could be successfully used with sales force, a ticketing and databasing system commonly used by telecom companies. There are some design issues with sales force that need to be worked out, but things are very close to being fully accessible out of the box. If any one has experience using sales force, It would be great to hear from you.

The people I spoke with this morning were very receptive to the openness of NVDA, and so I hope that when their implementation goes into effect, they will contribute to the NVDA community accordingly.

So, it's not perfect yet, but all in all I have had a pretty successful day thanks to NVDA.

Have fun,

Erik


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Re: Attach to email

Gene
 

You are evidently using a web site to send e-mail.  You don't tell us which one.  What you are describing is not the standard way such dialogs work.  I assume that after you press the add attachment button, a dialog comes up.  If so, shift tab once or if necessary twice.  You will be in a list of folders and files as you are in My Computer.  Move back through the list with the back space.  Move forward by pressing enter on something such as a folder.  Find the file you want and press enter. 
 
I've almost never added an attachment using a web site but that should be all you have to do.  As I said, I've almost never done this but I believe that you will have to allow time for the attachment to upload, if it is at all large.  I haven't done this enough to know if you are notified on the page when the attachment has finished uploading. 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 8:42 PM
Subject: [nvda] Attach to email

I'm able to use NVDA to send emails, but when I need to attach something, I need help, because I don't know how to navigate the 'upload a file' window using the keyboard. What I need to do is:

 

- Navigate to the address bar so I can type in the folder address, such as C:\downloads

- Navigate back to the list of files so I can search for the right file and select it for upload.

 

Can anyone please tell me how I can do this?

 

Best regards,

 

Jenny Uy

 

 


Attach to email

Jenny Uy <jen_lozano_uy@...>
 

I'm able to use NVDA to send emails, but when I need to attach something, I need help, because I don't know how to navigate the 'upload a file' window using the keyboard. What I need to do is:

 

- Navigate to the address bar so I can type in the folder address, such as C:\downloads

- Navigate back to the list of files so I can search for the right file and select it for upload.

 

Can anyone please tell me how I can do this?

 

Best regards,

 

Jenny Uy

 

 


Re: Windows 10 App Essentials confusion

Kevin Cussick
 

Hi, got the same message on the other computer as you, didn't install. it why on one machine? I will check later just encase I have clicked on the dev version on that box.

On 27/02/2017 13:18, Chris Mullins wrote:
Hi

I am rather confused about the update feature of W10AE. First of all I
can’t find an update button associated with the app entry for version
17.03 in the manage add-ons dialog. I activated the help button which
took me to the download page from where I downloaded the stable version
17.03A. I then checked it appeared in the manage add-ons dialog and it
was running normally. A few moments later a dialog appeared saying
there was a new update of W10AE available, would I like to install it.
I replied yes and it installed. On checking the Manage add-ons dialog
again, it showed the version as 2000225DEV was installed



I have never knowing installed any development versions, so I don’t
understand why it has suddenly started doing this. Advice appreciated.



Cheers

Chris .


Citation management and NVDA

James AUSTIN
 

Hello everyone

Apologies for asking this on list, I really should have done the research myself, but I thought asking her may be quicker.

I am looking for a citation/reference manager that works with NVDA. Preferably, it should be free and open source, as well as provide support for BibTeX citations. For those of you who use, or have used Mac OS, I would like to know if there is anything similar to BibDesk. Also, I am not sure about the current state of accessibility with Zotero, so maybe this could be an option?

Any and all thoughts welcome.

Thank you

James


Re: Microsoft Word 2016 and navigation lag

Gene
 

On a slow computer, I had slow performance when typing e-mails on a webmail site until I turned check for spelling errors off in Firefox.  This sounds as though it may be an analogous situation. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 12:54 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Microsoft Word 2016 and navigation lag

Hello kelby,

I experienced something like this in Outlook 2016.  The problem came from
having spelling checked as I typed.  In outlook 2016, I went to alt+f,
options, e-mail, editor options, and unchecked "check spelling as you type".


What I was experiencing was as I typed, the new e-mail message became less
responsive for arrow keys, and movement in general.  This happened in JAWS
18.  Spelling errors, and perhaps web links, caused the whole writing
process to become slower and slower.







Regards
Louis Maher
Phone: 713-444-7838
E-mail: ljmaher@...

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carlson
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 11:56 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Microsoft Word 2016 and navigation lag

I've run into this with certain documents with both NVDA and JAWS and
haven't figured out the solution.

----- Original Message -----
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To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Date: Monday, February 27, 2017 12:54 pm
Subject: [nvda] Microsoft Word 2016 and navigation lag

>
>
> Hi all,
>
> I notice that if I use the review cursor commands in Microsoft Word
> documents, there's about a half second lag. My arrows work fine, but
> my girlfriend has so much lag that navigating documents (even with
> just the arrow keys) is maddeningly frustrating. I'm wondering if
> anyone has experienced this and knows of a good way to fix it. We both
> run pretty modern Dell laptops (hers an i5, mine an i7) and they both
> run very well besides that. I don't have a copy of JAWS, but hers
> doesn't experience the same lag with the arrow keys, so it seems to be
> something specific to NVDA. My guess is that a particular setting is
> causing this, but I'm not sure which. I've looked through document
> formatting settings and turned off a lot of the unneeded stuff, and
> also tried turning off formatting information. Suggestions are welcome.
>
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Re: Microsoft Word 2016 and navigation lag

Louis Maher <ljmaher@...>
 

Hello kelby,

I experienced something like this in Outlook 2016. The problem came from
having spelling checked as I typed. In outlook 2016, I went to alt+f,
options, e-mail, editor options, and unchecked "check spelling as you type".


What I was experiencing was as I typed, the new e-mail message became less
responsive for arrow keys, and movement in general. This happened in JAWS
18. Spelling errors, and perhaps web links, caused the whole writing
process to become slower and slower.







Regards
Louis Maher
Phone: 713-444-7838
E-mail: ljmaher@swbell.net

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of kelby
carlson
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 11:56 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Microsoft Word 2016 and navigation lag

I've run into this with certain documents with both NVDA and JAWS and
haven't figured out the solution.

----- Original Message -----
From: Simon Jaeger <simon@simonj.me>
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Date: Monday, February 27, 2017 12:54 pm
Subject: [nvda] Microsoft Word 2016 and navigation lag



Hi all,

I notice that if I use the review cursor commands in Microsoft Word
documents, there's about a half second lag. My arrows work fine, but
my girlfriend has so much lag that navigating documents (even with
just the arrow keys) is maddeningly frustrating. I'm wondering if
anyone has experienced this and knows of a good way to fix it. We both
run pretty modern Dell laptops (hers an i5, mine an i7) and they both
run very well besides that. I don't have a copy of JAWS, but hers
doesn't experience the same lag with the arrow keys, so it seems to be
something specific to NVDA. My guess is that a particular setting is
causing this, but I'm not sure which. I've looked through document
formatting settings and turned off a lot of the unneeded stuff, and
also tried turning off formatting information. Suggestions are welcome.


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Re: Windows 10 App Essentials confusion

Gene
 

It depends on whether you have save on exit set as the NVDA behavior.  Save on exit is the default and I strongly believe it shouldn't be but it is.  If you change a setting in NVDA, it will be saved on exit. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Chris
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 11:18 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 App Essentials confusion

I think you have to save configuration in nvda otherwise it goes back to the last saved configuration

When you restart

 

 


Re: Microsoft Word 2016 and navigation lag

kelby carlson
 

I've run into this with certain documents with both NVDA and JAWS and haven't figured out the solution.

----- Original Message -----
From: Simon Jaeger <simon@simonj.me>
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Date: Monday, February 27, 2017 12:54 pm
Subject: [nvda] Microsoft Word 2016 and navigation lag



Hi all,

I notice that if I use the review cursor commands in Microsoft Word
documents, there's about a half second lag. My arrows work fine, but my
girlfriend has so much lag that navigating documents (even with just the
arrow keys) is maddeningly frustrating. I'm wondering if anyone has
experienced this and knows of a good way to fix it. We both run pretty
modern Dell laptops (hers an i5, mine an i7) and they both run very well
besides that. I don't have a copy of JAWS, but hers doesn't experience
the same lag with the arrow keys, so it seems to be something specific
to NVDA. My guess is that a particular setting is causing this, but I'm
not sure which. I've looked through document formatting settings and
turned off a lot of the unneeded stuff, and also tried turning off
formatting information. Suggestions are welcome.


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Microsoft Word 2016 and navigation lag

Simon Jaeger
 

Hi all,

I notice that if I use the review cursor commands in Microsoft Word documents, there's about a half second lag. My arrows work fine, but my girlfriend has so much lag that navigating documents (even with just the arrow keys) is maddeningly frustrating. I'm wondering if anyone has experienced this and knows of a good way to fix it. We both run pretty modern Dell laptops (hers an i5, mine an i7) and they both run very well besides that. I don't have a copy of JAWS, but hers doesn't experience the same lag with the arrow keys, so it seems to be something specific to NVDA. My guess is that a particular setting is causing this, but I'm not sure which. I've looked through document formatting settings and turned off a lot of the unneeded stuff, and also tried turning off formatting information. Suggestions are welcome.


Re: Windows 10 App Essentials confusion

Chris Mullins
 

Saving the config does preserve the W10Ae update settings.

 

Cheers

Chris

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: 27 February 2017 17:30
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 App Essentials confusion

 

Hi,

My apologies – I’ll release 17.03.1 that fixes this and other issues.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Chris Mullins
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 6:37 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 App Essentials confusion

 

Thanks Chris, was set to development channel for some reason.

 

Cheers

Chris

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Chris
Sent: 27 February 2017 13:28
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 App Essentials confusion

 

Look in nvda preferences menu there is a entry in there for app essentials

 

 


Re: Windows 10 App Essentials confusion

 

Hi,

Because of the way add-on saves settings, you need to press Control+NvDA+C to save settings for changes to take effect (I’ll write a note about that in 17.03.1 release notes).

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Roger Stewart
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 7:18 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 App Essentials confusion

 

This is a bug of some sort in the update feature of this app.  Any changes you make to that dialogue are not saved.  I set it to stable and next day it came up with this new version thing again and I checked and it had reverted to the dev channel.  Also, I unchecked the automatically check for updates yesterday, and this morning I again got that pesky new version available.  I checked, and sure enough, not only was the update channel set back to dev, but the check for updates box was checked once again.  Just ignore this for now and I'm sure a fix will be out soon.

Roger









On 2/27/2017 7:18 AM, Chris Mullins wrote:

                Hi

I am rather confused about the update feature of W10AE.  First of all I can’t find an update button associated with the app entry for version 17.03 in the manage add-ons dialog.  I activated the help button which took me to the download page from where I downloaded the stable version 17.03A.  I then checked it appeared in the manage add-ons dialog and it was running normally.  A few moments later a dialog appeared saying there was a new update of W10AE available, would I like to install it.  I replied yes and it installed.  On checking the Manage add-ons dialog again, it showed the version as 2000225DEV was installed

 

I have never knowing installed any development versions, so I don’t understand why it has suddenly started doing this.  Advice appreciated.

 

Cheers

Chris .         

 


Re: Windows 10 App Essentials confusion

 

Hi,

My apologies – I’ll release 17.03.1 that fixes this and other issues.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Chris Mullins
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 6:37 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 App Essentials confusion

 

Thanks Chris, was set to development channel for some reason.

 

Cheers

Chris

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Chris
Sent: 27 February 2017 13:28
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 App Essentials confusion

 

Look in nvda preferences menu there is a entry in there for app essentials

 

 


Re: Windows 10 App Essentials confusion

Chris
 

I think you have to save configuration in nvda otherwise it goes back to the last saved configuration

When you restart

 

 


Re: Trouble with yahoo

David Griffith
 

Just in relation to the difficulty reading the text mesage is there a way on your phone of copying and pasting the information into an email and sending it to your self for review on a PC?


If using an iPhone you can use the last phrase copied to the pasteboard function- quadruple triple tap and then you can just use the rota to paste it into an email as usual. I have done this several times when I have wanted more permanent records of texts.

then of course NVDA could review the text in detail for you.


I am afraid I am not sure how to do this on other phones though it might be worth looking at context menus in Android.


David Griffith

On 26/02/2017 09:44, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
Hi well straight after that message was received a load of us found smtp prompts for log on password.
When you go to follow the links it asks if they can send you a verification code to the mobile number they make you put in when you open the account. this is sent. It sounds like four characters and there is an unlabelled field on the page to enter it. It also says in the help that after doing this you will be asked to change your password and agree to use an old insecure email client, but I never get that far. Instead it just comes up with an unauthorised access message and sends you an email with a link back to another page to get another code again.

Its like Groundhog day.
They seem to be deliberately suggesting that all who have not changed their password do so but need the code to verify its really you. I can only deduce that its either that the field is the wrong one or the code read by my dumb phone is incomplete. Sadly the phone has no way to step through the characters in the message it just says fy8d or whatever its is.

Are you saying you can actually send email through yahoo after that message?

I can't It still receives of course but not send.

Brian

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Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 1:47 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Trouble with yahoo


Brian,

I'm gathering you're referring to the e-mail message from Yahoo entitled, "REMINDER: Secure Your Yahoo Account," though given the amount of haranguing they've been doing after the announced-years-later password breach it could be another.

I could, and did, ignore that reminder because essentially it's a solicitation to turn on 2-step verification which I have no desire to do (and don't use it for accessing Gmail via Thunderbird, WLM 2012, and Outlook 2010, either, for which I use IMAP access, not POP).

I haven't gotten anything that requires a code be sent to a mobile phone, though, as part of a verification process.
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Re: Windows 10 App Essentials confusion

Roger Stewart
 

This is a bug of some sort in the update feature of this app.  Any changes you make to that dialogue are not saved.  I set it to stable and next day it came up with this new version thing again and I checked and it had reverted to the dev channel.  Also, I unchecked the automatically check for updates yesterday, and this morning I again got that pesky new version available.  I checked, and sure enough, not only was the update channel set back to dev, but the check for updates box was checked once again.  Just ignore this for now and I'm sure a fix will be out soon.

Roger









On 2/27/2017 7:18 AM, Chris Mullins wrote:

                Hi

I am rather confused about the update feature of W10AE.  First of all I can’t find an update button associated with the app entry for version 17.03 in the manage add-ons dialog.  I activated the help button which took me to the download page from where I downloaded the stable version 17.03A.  I then checked it appeared in the manage add-ons dialog and it was running normally.  A few moments later a dialog appeared saying there was a new update of W10AE available, would I like to install it.  I replied yes and it installed.  On checking the Manage add-ons dialog again, it showed the version as 2000225DEV was installed

 

I have never knowing installed any development versions, so I don’t understand why it has suddenly started doing this.  Advice appreciated.

 

Cheers

Chris .         



Re: NVDA Web Browser Problem

Gene
 

You should have some sort of reversion method.  It isn't just screen-reader access that may be affected by bad installations.  That's what we are talking about now but that isn't the only problem that may occur.  Microsoft itself says that one of the reasons it made System Restore a feature of Windows is because of problems that may result from a bad uninstallation. 
 
I don't want to give the impression that uninstalling programs causes problems a lot of the time. 
But it appears to cause problems enough that Microsoft thought it a good idea to have a feature like System Restore.
 
Gene
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Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Web Browser Problem

gene.
i uninstalled and tested many different programs and also i dont have
system restore or reversion.
brian,
do you mean that after uninstallation of some programs some dll dont
work and this subject causes inaccessibility using nvda?
but i did not hear about jaws that becomes unsupportive of browsers
after uninstalling some programs!

On 2/27/17, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
> You are assuming this has something to do with NVDA.  NVDA is only
> responsible for it self.  These are separate programs.  As I said before, I
> see no reason to uninstall programs in general, though I do uninstall some.
> But I make sure I have a way to revert the system if I do, such as system
> restore.  Others may prefer other programs or methods such as working with
> images.  But especially in the case of those who don't have a reversion
> system or are unjustifiably frightened of System Restore and won't use it, I
> think it's a bad idea to uninstall programs.  yThere are cases where people
> install a lot of programs because they are experimenters or curious about
> programs.  In that case, uninstalling programs makes sense.  But it is very
> important to have a reversion system available in that case, such as system
> restore or disk images or similar reversion means.
>
> Gene
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> From: nasrin khaksar
> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 12:45 AM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Web Browser Problem
>
>
> hi.
> i realy wish to nvda developer solve this problem.
> uninstalling some programs should not cause problem using nvda with
> browsers.
>
> On 2/25/17, Kwork <istherelife@...> wrote:
>> I also remember reading that Mathplayer is not supposed to be uninstalled
>> once installed as it could break other parts of the system. It was a
>> warning
>> I saw when installing Mathplayer for the first time.
>> Travis
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Gene
>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>> Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 8:22 AM
>> Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Web Browser Problem
>>
>>
>> This illustrates my point.  The phrase "stuck with Math Player" sounds as
>> though it is a meaningful imposition to have it.  It takes up very little
>> room and does nothing when not being used.
>> As I said, the presumption that programs should reflexively and routinely
>> be
>> uninstalled is one that should be reexamined.
>>
>> Gene
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> From: Louis Maher
>> Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 9:09 AM
>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>> Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Web Browser Problem
>>
>>
>> When I was having the problem, NVDA could not access Firefox or Internet
>> Explorer.  Fortunately, everything is now running fine once MathPlayer
>> was
>> re-installed.
>>
>> It looks Like I am stuck with MathPlayer.
>>
>>
>> Regards
>> Louis Maher
>> Phone: 713-444-7838
>> E-mail: ljmaher@...
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
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>> Brian's
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>> Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 4:18 AM
>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>> Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Web Browser Problem
>>
>> Do any html pages in any browser work?
>>  Brian
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>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Louis Maher" <ljmaher@...>
>> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 6:48 PM
>> Subject: [nvda] NVDA Web Browser Problem
>>
>>
>>> Folks,
>>>
>>> Several weeks ago, my NVDA (version 16.4) was unable to access Firefox
>>> (51.?).  When I opened a webpage, the arrow keys just said unknown when
>>> I
>>> used them.  I uninstalled NVDA and Firefox and re-installed both.  I am
>>> now
>>> on NVDA 17.1), and I have the same issue.
>>>
>>> Any suggestions would be appreciated.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Louis Maher
>>> Phone: 713-444-7838
>>> E-mail: ljmaher@...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org