On 22/05/2020 1:34 am, Tony Ballou wrote:

Hi,


Try this one.  It's got a free and a professional version, is accessible with screen readers, and should do the job.


https://www.nchsoftware.com/documentconvert/index.html


Tony

On 5/21/2020 1:47 AM, Shaun Everiss wrote:

Hi.

Further to my old document conversion issue a user suggested multiple document converter by polenter software.

I downloaded it but found 2 issues.

1.  the program is not fully accessible.

Thats fine, I have only 2 large folders of files I want to convert.

2.  on converting my word 95 files to 2003-word97 files, the files themselves were corrupted and jarte crashed.

I then tried docx.


Every document I had which was quite old my word 95 files for example, were blank.

This converter aint for me.

I have jarte which I payed for, which does everything I want.

Sadly I may have to get libre office or ms office or something so I can read the files, I have a system with libre office and the files are read fine enough, and I hardly need them, but if there is another document converter even ifits a low cost office thing I'll try that.

This one just is not serving my purpose.

I also had a little trouble accessing it and in fact the rest of the polenter apps were not especially usable.

I wander if there are document converters in the ms store.

On 22/05/2020 1:20 am, Kerryn Gunness via groups.io wrote:

u can try
zamzar.com
website to convert files to other formats

----- Original Message ----- From: "Shaun Everiss" <sm.everiss@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2020 1:47 AM
Subject: [nvda] document converter things

Hi.

Further to my old document conversion issue a user suggested multiple document converter by polenter software.

I downloaded it but found 2 issues.

1. the program is not fully accessible.

Thats fine, I have only 2 large folders of files I want to convert.

2. on converting my word 95 files to 2003-word97 files, the files themselves were corrupted and jarte crashed.

I then tried docx.


Every document I had which was quite old my word 95 files for example, were blank.

This converter aint for me.

I have jarte which I payed for, which does everything I want.

Sadly I may have to get libre office or ms office or something so I can read the files, I have a system with libre office and the files are read fine enough, and I hardly need them, but if there is another document converter even ifits a low cost office thing I'll try that.

This one just is not serving my purpose.

I also had a little trouble accessing it and in fact the rest of the polenter apps were not especially usable.

I wander if there are document converters in the ms store.

.

To clarify my original question, my old scanner is Epson, and it's driver was completely inaccessible, so I was unable to install it, and back then I didn't have anyone sighted to help me - so no matter what OCR program you're using, without a driver it's not going to work. So this time I would like to check that the driver is accessible first and foremost.

On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 10:59 AM, Gene wrote:

It used to be that at least some scanners came with accessible OCR programs.  I don't know enough about this to generalize, but it is my impression that not as many do now.

Gene, since you asked for comment, this is precisely the opposite of my experience, still ongoing.  I don't know of a single home or office grade flatbed scanner or multi-function that doesn't include OCR as part of its "scan to PDF" function.  They've all been doing this for years now.

I have a personal preference for Canon multi-function machines, which definitely include OCR functionality, but mostly because they still sell a number of models with separate ink tanks, which are less expensive in the long run, and infinitely less expensive if you buy automatic reset chip (ARC) tanks that you can refill.

A dear friend of mine who's my mother's age, and has been totally blind since birth, has been using a now-out-of-production Canon multi-function that I recommended to her for somewhere around 5 years or so now.  She does have scanning software other than that which comes with the multi-function, though, and I'm not sure which software she's using with it.

I have to admit that I am at least a bit confused by the original question, as I have not directly interfaced with a scanner driver, whether with a sighted or blind client, in years.  The application software that comes with or that you can use with the device is the user interface.
 
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Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

      ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019

 

 

To clarify my original question, my old scanner is Epson, and it's driver was completely inaccessible, so I was unable to install it, and back then I didn't have anyone sighted to help me - so no matter what OCR program you're using, without a driver it's not going to work. So this time I would like to check that the driver is accessible first and foremost.

On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 10:59 AM, Gene wrote:

It used to be that at least some scanners came with accessible OCR programs.  I don't know enough about this to generalize, but it is my impression that not as many do now.

Gene, since you asked for comment, this is precisely the opposite of my experience, still ongoing.  I don't know of a single home or office grade flatbed scanner or multi-function that doesn't include OCR as part of its "scan to PDF" function.  They've all been doing this for years now.

I have a personal preference for Canon multi-function machines, which definitely include OCR functionality, but mostly because they still sell a number of models with separate ink tanks, which are less expensive in the long run, and infinitely less expensive if you buy automatic reset chip (ARC) tanks that you can refill.

A dear friend of mine who's my mother's age, and has been totally blind since birth, has been using a now-out-of-production Canon multi-function that I recommended to her for somewhere around 5 years or so now.  She does have scanning software other than that which comes with the multi-function, though, and I'm not sure which software she's using with it.

I have to admit that I am at least a bit confused by the original question, as I have not directly interfaced with a scanner driver, whether with a sighted or blind client, in years.  The application software that comes with or that you can use with the device is the user interface.
 
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

      ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019

 

 

On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 10:59 AM, Gene wrote:

It used to be that at least some scanners came with accessible OCR programs.  I don't know enough about this to generalize, but it is my impression that not as many do now.

Gene, since you asked for comment, this is precisely the opposite of my experience, still ongoing.  I don't know of a single home or office grade flatbed scanner or multi-function that doesn't include OCR as part of its "scan to PDF" function.  They've all been doing this for years now.

I have a personal preference for Canon multi-function machines, which definitely include OCR functionality, but mostly because they still sell a number of models with separate ink tanks, which are less expensive in the long run, and infinitely less expensive if you buy automatic reset chip (ARC) tanks that you can refill.

A dear friend of mine who's my mother's age, and has been totally blind since birth, has been using a now-out-of-production Canon multi-function that I recommended to her for somewhere around 5 years or so now.  She does have scanning software other than that which comes with the multi-function, though, and I'm not sure which software she's using with it.

I have to admit that I am at least a bit confused by the original question, as I have not directly interfaced with a scanner driver, whether with a sighted or blind client, in years.  The application software that comes with or that you can use with the device is the user interface.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

      ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019

 

 

Hp n canon scanner have software from factory which is accessible without 3rd party app

On Thu, May 21, 2020, 21:38 Tony Malykh <anton.malykh@...> wrote:

Hello all,
I am looking to buy a new scanner as my old one just died. However I've
heard that scanner drivers from many manufacturers tend to be not very
accessible. Can anyone recommend me which scanner (or scanner+printer)
comes with accessible driver/accompanying software?
Thanks!
Tony

From: Brian Vogel
Sent: May 21, 2020 11:35 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] What do You prefer to write Docs, Presentations, or Spreadsheets with NVDA

 

Sorry, the link I meant to post was:  http://www.multidoc-converter.com/en/index.html

It tells you what types can be converted on its main page.

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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

      ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019

 

 

From: Josh Kennedy
Sent: May 21, 2020 7:31 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] What do You prefer to write Docs, Presentations, or Spreadsheets with NVDA

 

yes it is a computer-only program and yes it batch-converts multiple documents very very fast, and yes it is very easy to use. 

On 5/21/20, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:

I can definitely say that OCR engines in general have improved more
substantially than I can even express over the last several decades.  You
can have some very, very crappy originals and still get remarkably accurate
results.  For those of us of a certain age where mimeographed copies were
later photocopied you get these things that have little dots scattered all
over the place and blotches here and there.  When I've OCRed these (or image
PDF versions of these) in recent years the results have been nearly perfect,
which is saying something.

I also just tested the Canon IJ Scan Utility with NVDA and all of its
buttons are accessible and, given how little its changed over the years, I'd
expect that the underlying functions for each, when they require user
interaction, will be so as well.  For single page scanning to PDF all you do
is hit one button and you're done.

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Brian *-* Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363

*Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its
platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.*

~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment
Took Hold in the United States (
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/23/health/anti-vaccination-movement-us.html
) , September 23, 2019

On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 10:59 AM, Gene wrote:

It used to be that at least some scanners came with accessible OCR programs.  I don't know enough about this to generalize, but it is my impression that not as many do now.

Gene, since you asked for comment, this is precisely the opposite of my experience, still ongoing.  I don't know of a single home or office grade flatbed scanner or multi-function that doesn't include OCR as part of its "scan to PDF" function.  They've all been doing this for years now.

I have a personal preference for Canon multi-function machines, which definitely include OCR functionality, but mostly because they still sell a number of models with separate ink tanks, which are less expensive in the long run, and infinitely less expensive if you buy automatic reset chip (ARC) tanks that you can refill.

A dear friend of mine who's my mother's age, and has been totally blind since birth, has been using a now-out-of-production Canon multi-function that I recommended to her for somewhere around 5 years or so now.  She does have scanning software other than that which comes with the multi-function, though, and I'm not sure which software she's using with it.

I have to admit that I am at least a bit confused by the original question, as I have not directly interfaced with a scanner driver, whether with a sighted or blind client, in years.  The application software that comes with or that you can use with the device is the user interface.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

      ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019