dear list as my e speak is working well but as it is robotic sense
hence i want any free/open voice for english on my nvda.

thanks and regards,
sazdid

On 12/1/16, nasrin khaksar <nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com> wrote:

hi.
i know only espeak and speech player in espeak.
i use iven3 and it works very great and i extremely love it!

On 12/1/16, Brian's Mail list account <bglists@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

Can you give us a clue, what language and why is Espeak not working for
you.

If its a minority language you may need to buy one that suits your ears.

Brian

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Sent via blueyonder.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "sazid" <skstraders.nlr@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2016 3:14 AM
Subject: [nvda] wanted free synth for my nvda

dear list,
I am need of free/open synthasiser for nvda on my official computer.
hence I request to share this for english language.

thanks and regards,
sazid

--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org

On Dec 5, 2016, at 5:26 AM, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@outlook.co.nz> wrote:

Hi guys

It is Gene NZ (who is putting together the AccessibilityCentral.net
website).
Some people are aware of it and there are a few that are not. It is a
blindness related website where I also post both written and audio
tutorials for the NVDA screen reader, along with other blindness related
material.

These are fairly easy to follow, (that is they are step by step
instructions) and for a desktop computer.
They are basically, to get a new user of NVDA up and running.

At present, any that are written are identified under a heading on the
main AccessibilityCentral.net homepage of the website. The heading is
called pages recently updated, and they are listed below this heading or
put onto my AccessibilityCentral.net facebook page.

I have had a few people also suggest that when these tutorials go up (or
are passed on) to do with the NVDA screen reader, that I should let the
list know each time that they go up. These tutorials will only be the
ones that end up on the website. The notification will state on which
page they are on, or have come off. I will be doing this from now on.

One of the tutorials that has extra information put into it is called
Accessible email client Mozilla Thunderbird.
There are 10 sections added in, starting from the following heading
called How to navigate Mozilla Thunderbird with NVDA.

The page can be found at
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/accessible%20email%20client%20mozilla%20thunderbird.html

There is also another tutorial by David Moore, that covers the Windows
10 Mail app (which can be found off the NVDA tutorials for other
programs page). The direct link to this tutorial can be found at
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/How%20to%20use%20the%20Mail%20app%20in%20Windows%2010%20with%20NVDA.html

I will add more tutorials to this thread as they are written up.

Gene NZ


--

<b>Check out the new location of my accessibility central website for NVDA tutorials, NVDA road tested programs, and other eyesight related topics.
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/ If you would like to keep up to date with whats being updated on our website, you can also follow us on facebook by visiting
the following link https://en-gb.facebook.com/people/AccessibilityCentral-Net/100009727930216
Also, check out which New Zealand libraries have the NVDA screen reader available by visiting the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries

Well you can get the sapi voices at www.grossgang.com. a guy named Jake
gross has many voices including mike and Mary voices it under the tts
link on the page.


On 12/5/2016 4:19 AM, David wrote:

Am I mistaken here, or does NVDA support SAPI voices? Smiles.

Microsoft used to have a SAPI package which came in both SAPI4 and SAPI5
versions. It contained MS Mike, and MS Mary. Personally, I prefered the
quality of the speech, produced by the Sapi4 version. They were free, and
installed under at least XP, I do hold they should work under newer
flavors of Windows as well, though I cannot tell for sure.

I could dig out the installer from my archives, but you might also want to
do a net search for something like:
Mircrosoft voice Mike installer
or,
Microsoft voice Mike download
and see if you can find the package somewhere.

What I do recall, is that you downloaded an installer file, ran it,
restarted your system, and the voices would be ready for use, under the
SAPI tab of your screen reader voice selection. I seem to remember using
Mary, with an early version of NVDA. Unless something deep inside the NVDA
core has changed, I would say it should still work.

Though being SAPI, the voices were OK responsive, and the quality was a
good deal more natural sounding, than many of the ESpeak voices. I even
used the Mike and Mary, to read several EBooks.

Just thought it might be one alternative to try out. At least it is free,
so if you don't find it useful, you could always uninstall the package,
and you would have lost nothing.
David



On 12/5/2016 8:25 AM, Gene New Zealand wrote:

Hi Ibrahim


There 2 parts to the speech platform synth and voices.

One is the speech synth engine and the other is the voices.


This is from off the website of mine of what to do to get them.


How to install Microsoft Speech Platform and voices (free) for NVDA
There are Microsoft voices that you can use with NVDA. These are called
Microsoft Speech Platform Runtime Languages. Firstly, you will need the
Microsoft Speech Platform to be able to run them.

If you have not downloaded the Microsoft Speech Platform, it is
available from the following link
http://www.microsoft.com/download/en/details.aspx?id=27225
You will need the x86 version of the file.

If you have downloaded the Microsoft Speech Platform, you can get
version 11 voices for it (called Runtime Languages) from the following
link
http://www.microsoft.com/download/en/details.aspx?id=27224

The heading on the page should be: Microsoft Speech Platform - Runtime
Languages (Version 11). If for example I wanted an English voice called
Helen, I would click on one called MSSpeech_TTS_en-US_Helen.msi Please
be aware that TTS stands for text to speech, and SR stands for speech
recognition. You are looking for the TTS ones. Once downloaded, double
click on the file and it will automatically set up to the correct
location. Go back into NVDA settings Insert + N... Preferences...
Synthesizer... (In the dropdown list of synthesizers select) Microsoft
Speech Platform... Tab to OK and press Enter. Go back into your settings
Insert + N... Preferences... Voice settings... (under the Voice combo
box) arrow down to select the voice you wish to use. Tab to OK and press
Enter. You can of course alter the rate, pitch and volume to suit your
own needs. You will need to make sure that if you have version 10.2
that you use 10.2 voices, and if you get version 11 then you will need
to get the version 11 voices. For version 10.2 please refer to the NVDA
user manual for more information under supported synthesizers.


I am just looking at the page or pages now to get the synth engine and
voices.


if you are unsure which ones to get i will download the engine and all
the voices to my pc then zip them up and drop box them for you. or
others who might be interested in installing them.


I will do this shortly.


by the way there is another free synth package called speechhub that you
might want to use. the voices are only in english.

You can get the speech hub package from the following link at
http://www.speakon.org.uk/

Gene nz




On 5/12/2016 5:28 PM, Ibrahim Ajayi wrote:

Hi good people:
If you can recollect, I did send a message to this group about my NVDA
not working properly. I did get many responses, and I thank all of
you who found time to respond. I am sorry I mistakenly deleted the
digest mail sent to me, and I can not reply to the mail. But I
believe some of you might remember the mail.
Actually, I got a very good response from David. He made some
suggestions which I've tried. I discovered when I switched off NVDa
as he suggested, and I used the demo version of JAWS for Windows, that
the system worked very nicely, and fast.
I strongly believe that the problem must be from the synthesiser I am
using. Actually, I use Micro sofft speech AI4 which I use through
viavoice outloud. I appear to like the synthesiser, because it is
very clear and it sounds like eloquence. But it appears obsolete and
not very helpful.
I can't use the JAWS demo version, because it works in 40 minute mode,
and one cannot usee that when doing serious work on the computer.
I downloaded Microsoft speech version 11 but it couldn't be installed
on my system. I did it several times but it didn't work. i cannot
use ESpeak, because I don't understand the speech. I tried koba
speech as well, but the speech for that is also not very easy to
comprehend.
So, can anyone suggest another synthesiser. I use windows 7 32bit.
I am Ibrahim from Nigeria.

hi.
i know only espeak and speech player in espeak.
i use iven3 and it works very great and i extremely love it!

On 12/1/16, Brian's Mail list account <bglists@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

Can you give us a clue, what language and why is Espeak not working for
you.

If its a minority language you may need to buy one that suits your ears.

Brian

bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
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----- Original Message -----
From: "sazid" <skstraders.nlr@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2016 3:14 AM
Subject: [nvda] wanted free synth for my nvda

dear list,
I am need of free/open synthasiser for nvda on my official computer.
hence I request to share this for english language.

thanks and regards,
sazid

--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org

Quentin, HYG:

https://potplayer.daum.net/


But, gave it a quick test run, and, my guess is that it doesn't offer
much in t4erms of accessibility, etc. - no menu suystems that could
activate using alt + key combo's, etc., so not sure it would be
something I would want to work with as such.


stay well


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2016-12-05 10:20, Quentin Christensen wrote:

Hi Nasrin,

Is Potplayer freely available? If so, do you have a URL please and I
will download and test it myself as well.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 5:48 PM, nasrin khaksar
<nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com <mailto:nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com>> wrote:

hi quentin.
i decided to stay on 2015.3 for always because in the latest versions
nvda has problems with potplayer and when i press alt+f4 nvda when i
press start menu says unknown and its a big issue for me.
because i only use potplayer and when i open files, most of times, i
should use alt+control+n to revert nvda to its normal working.
15.3 until 16.2 were more stable for me.
but since 16.2 and 3, sometimes nvda says nothing or becomes
completely silent.
in this case, i afraid of maybe my system is hacked or my windows has
problems or not working properly.

github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues.6513its
<http://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues.6513its>; for potplayer and
some others
players and for the problem in espeak new version with farsi
punctuations
github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/6514
<http://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/6514>;

but i realy love the new features of nvda including selection of
documents and impprovements in using firefox and now, i use 16.3
could you please solve the problem which i mentioned in 16.4 to use
it
without any issues?
thanks extremely quentin.
do you have skype account for further details and contact about
different subjects?


On 12/5/16, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com <mailto:gsasner@ripco.com>>
wrote:
> I mainly use an old version because I don't use new NVDA
features, as I said
> before. But also, I prefer the old way of using what was called
Flat
> Review. I prefer always being in screen review when I activate
review mode
> in the old version and the automatic return to object navigation
when I
> switch to another window. I could get used to the new system
but since I
> don't need to, I don't bother.
>
> Also, I don't think there is any way to import the speech
dictionaries other
> then to actually copy and paste the files. I could do that
easily enough
> but I don't since I have no need. But I am reminded of
something regarding
> the dictionaries. I think there should be an export and an import
> dictionaries item in the dictionary interface itself.
>
> Gene
> From: Quentin Christensen
> Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2016 5:55 PM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> Subject: Re: [nvda] Is any release prior to the latest stable
release, and
> the next RC release, officially supported? #NVDARelease
>
>
> Hi Brian,
>
>
> Essentially only the latest stable (and currently as you noted,
RC) versions
> of NVDA are supported, in that if we fix a bug, that fix will
only go into a
> new build.
>
>
> Ideally, if someone is having a problem and finds that reverting
to an
> earlier build resolves the issue, we'd very much prefer they
communicate
> that to us via a GitHub issue, or at least here on the list or to
me
> personally so that we can endeavour to resolve it. The current
version
> should still work at least as far back as Windows XP (If anyone
is using
> Windows 98 or earlier, I'd be curious to hear your experiences
with NVDA
> just for my own interest if nothing else).
>
>
> Perhaps this thread might be a good place for anyone who is
using a version
> of NVDA prior to 2016.3, to share why that is? I can ensure that
any issues
> are recorded on GitHub, but I'd also be able to compile a list
that I can
> take back to Mick and Jamie and say "these are issues that are
currently
> keeping users on old versions of NVDA".
>
>
> Kind regards
>
>
> Quentin.
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 9:23 AM, Brian Vogel
<britechguy@gmail.com <mailto:britechguy@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> The subject pretty much asks it all.
>
> In topic after topic I see people saying that they're using
old, often
> really old, versions of NVDA. That is entirely their choice,
and I'm not
> questioning that.
>
> What I'd like to know is how many versions, if any, other than
the latest
> stable release and the RC releases, are "officially" supported
by NVAccess.
>
> Knowing how much change occurs as releases roll out over time
I know it's
> impossible to keep supporting prior releases in perpetuity or
anything close
> to it. I also know that it generally makes no sense to try to
replicate a
> bug in a release different than the one it's been detected in
except as an
> effort to determine if it is a "carry forward" that was previously
> undetected versus newly introduced.
>
> It's almost impossible to know "what's what" unless
individuals using NVDA
> are all using the latest stable version so far as issue
reporting goes.
> That's why, particularly for open-source software, I make it a
habit to
> religiously upgrade to the latest release whether I need the
latest "bells
> and whistles" or not. Unless there is some really buggy release
(and I'm
> talking generally, not NVDA in particular) it just makes
everyone's lives
> much easier.
> --
> Brian
>
>
> Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is
complete. If
> you’re alive, it isn’t.
>
> ~ Lauren Bacall
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Quentin Christensen
> Training Material Developer
> Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now
available:
> http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
>
>
> Ph +61 7 3149 3306 <tel:%2B61%207%203149%203306>
> Direct: +61 413 904 383 <tel:%2B61%20413%20904%20383>
> www.nvaccess.org <http://www.nvaccess.org>;
> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
<http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess>;
> Twitter: @NVAccess
>
>


--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org <http://al-islam.org>;






--
Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer
Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now
available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Ph +61 7 3149 3306 <tel:%2B61%207%203149%203306>
Direct: +61 413 904 383
www.nvaccess.org <http://www.nvaccess.org/>;
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess

Hi Nasrin,

Is Potplayer freely available?  If so, do you have a URL please and I will download and test it myself as well.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 5:48 PM, nasrin khaksar <nasrinkhaksar3@...> wrote:

hi quentin.
i decided to stay on 2015.3 for always because in the latest versions
nvda has problems with potplayer and when i press alt+f4 nvda when i
press start menu says unknown and its a big issue for me.
because i only use potplayer and when i open files, most of times, i
should use alt+control+n to revert nvda to its normal working.
15.3 until 16.2 were more stable for me.
but since 16.2 and 3, sometimes nvda says nothing or becomes completely silent.
in this case, i afraid of maybe my system is hacked or my windows has
problems or not working properly.

github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues.6513its for potplayer and some others
players and for the problem in espeak new version with farsi
punctuations
github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/6514

but i realy love the new features of nvda including selection of
documents and impprovements in using firefox and now, i use 16.3
could you please solve the problem which i mentioned in 16.4 to use it
without any issues?
thanks extremely quentin.
do you have skype account for further details and contact about
different subjects?

On 12/5/16, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
> I mainly use an old version because I don't use new NVDA features, as I said
> before.  But also, I prefer the old way of using what was called Flat
> Review.  I prefer always being in screen review when I activate review mode
> in the old version and the automatic return to object navigation when I
> switch to another window.  I could get used to the new system but since I
> don't need to, I don't bother.
>
> Also, I don't think there is any way to import the speech dictionaries other
> then to actually copy and paste the files.  I could do that easily enough
> but I don't since I have no need.  But I am reminded of something regarding
> the dictionaries.  I think there should be an export and an import
> dictionaries item in the dictionary interface itself.
>
> Gene
> From: Quentin Christensen
> Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2016 5:55 PM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] Is any release prior to the latest stable release, and
> the next RC release, officially supported? #NVDARelease
>
>
> Hi Brian,
>
>
> Essentially only the latest stable (and currently as you noted, RC) versions
> of NVDA are supported, in that if we fix a bug, that fix will only go into a
> new build.
>
>
> Ideally, if someone is having a problem and finds that reverting to an
> earlier build resolves the issue, we'd very much prefer they communicate
> that to us via a GitHub issue, or at least here on the list or to me
> personally so that we can endeavour to resolve it.  The current version
> should still work at least as far back as Windows XP (If anyone is using
> Windows 98 or earlier, I'd be curious to hear your experiences with NVDA
> just for my own interest if nothing else).
>
>
> Perhaps this thread might be a good place for anyone who is using a version
> of NVDA prior to 2016.3, to share why that is? I can ensure that any issues
> are recorded on GitHub, but I'd also be able to compile a list that I can
> take back to Mick and Jamie and say "these are issues that are currently
> keeping users on old versions of NVDA".
>
>
> Kind regards
>
>
> Quentin.
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 9:23 AM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:
>
>   The subject pretty much asks it all.
>
>   In topic after topic I see people saying that they're using old, often
> really old, versions of NVDA.  That is entirely their choice, and I'm not
> questioning that.
>
>   What I'd like to know is how many versions, if any, other than the latest
> stable release and the RC releases, are "officially" supported by NVAccess.
>
>   Knowing how much change occurs as releases roll out over time I know it's
> impossible to keep supporting prior releases in perpetuity or anything close
> to it.  I also know that it generally makes no sense to try to replicate a
> bug in a release different than the one it's been detected in except as an
> effort to determine if it is a "carry forward" that was previously
> undetected versus newly introduced.
>
>   It's almost impossible to know "what's what" unless individuals using NVDA
> are all using the latest stable version so far as issue reporting goes.
> That's why, particularly for open-source software, I make it a habit to
> religiously upgrade to the latest release whether I need the latest "bells
> and whistles" or not.  Unless there is some really buggy release (and I'm
> talking generally, not NVDA in particular) it just makes everyone's lives
> much easier.
>   --
>   Brian
>
>
>   Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.  If
> you’re alive, it isn’t.
>
>       ~ Lauren Bacall
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Quentin Christensen
> Training Material Developer
> Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available:
> http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
>
>
> Ph +61 7 3149 3306
> Direct: +61 413 904 383
> www.nvaccess.org
> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
> Twitter: @NVAccess
>
>

--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org

--

Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer

Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Ph +61 7 3149 3306 

Direct: +61 413 904 383
www.nvaccess.org 
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 

Am I mistaken here, or does NVDA support SAPI voices? Smiles.

Microsoft used to have a SAPI package which came in both SAPI4 and SAPI5 versions. It contained MS Mike, and MS Mary. Personally, I prefered the quality of the speech, produced by the Sapi4 version. They were free, and installed under at least XP, I do hold they should work under newer flavors of Windows as well, though I cannot tell for sure.

I could dig out the installer from my archives, but you might also want to do a net search for something like:
Mircrosoft voice Mike installer
or,
Microsoft voice Mike download
and see if you can find the package somewhere.

What I do recall, is that you downloaded an installer file, ran it, restarted your system, and the voices would be ready for use, under the SAPI tab of your screen reader voice selection. I seem to remember using Mary, with an early version of NVDA. Unless something deep inside the NVDA core has changed, I would say it should still work.

Though being SAPI, the voices were OK responsive, and the quality was a good deal more natural sounding, than many of the ESpeak voices. I even used the Mike and Mary, to read several EBooks.

Just thought it might be one alternative to try out. At least it is free, so if you don't find it useful, you could always uninstall the package, and you would have lost nothing.
David



On 12/5/2016 8:25 AM, Gene New Zealand wrote:

Hi Ibrahim


There 2 parts to the speech platform synth and voices.

One is the speech synth engine and the other is the voices.


This is from off the website of mine of what to do to get them.


How to install Microsoft Speech Platform and voices (free) for NVDA
There are Microsoft voices that you can use with NVDA. These are called
Microsoft Speech Platform Runtime Languages. Firstly, you will need the
Microsoft Speech Platform to be able to run them.

If you have not downloaded the Microsoft Speech Platform, it is
available from the following link
http://www.microsoft.com/download/en/details.aspx?id=27225
You will need the x86 version of the file.

If you have downloaded the Microsoft Speech Platform, you can get
version 11 voices for it (called Runtime Languages) from the following link
http://www.microsoft.com/download/en/details.aspx?id=27224

The heading on the page should be: Microsoft Speech Platform - Runtime
Languages (Version 11). If for example I wanted an English voice called
Helen, I would click on one called MSSpeech_TTS_en-US_Helen.msi Please
be aware that TTS stands for text to speech, and SR stands for speech
recognition. You are looking for the TTS ones. Once downloaded, double
click on the file and it will automatically set up to the correct
location. Go back into NVDA settings Insert + N... Preferences...
Synthesizer... (In the dropdown list of synthesizers select) Microsoft
Speech Platform... Tab to OK and press Enter. Go back into your settings
Insert + N... Preferences... Voice settings... (under the Voice combo
box) arrow down to select the voice you wish to use. Tab to OK and press
Enter. You can of course alter the rate, pitch and volume to suit your
own needs. You will need to make sure that if you have version 10.2
that you use 10.2 voices, and if you get version 11 then you will need
to get the version 11 voices. For version 10.2 please refer to the NVDA
user manual for more information under supported synthesizers.


I am just looking at the page or pages now to get the synth engine and
voices.


if you are unsure which ones to get i will download the engine and all
the voices to my pc then zip them up and drop box them for you. or
others who might be interested in installing them.


I will do this shortly.


by the way there is another free synth package called speechhub that you
might want to use. the voices are only in english.

You can get the speech hub package from the following link at
http://www.speakon.org.uk/

Gene nz




On 5/12/2016 5:28 PM, Ibrahim Ajayi wrote:

Hi good people:
If you can recollect, I did send a message to this group about my NVDA
not working properly. I did get many responses, and I thank all of
you who found time to respond. I am sorry I mistakenly deleted the
digest mail sent to me, and I can not reply to the mail. But I
believe some of you might remember the mail.
Actually, I got a very good response from David. He made some
suggestions which I've tried. I discovered when I switched off NVDa
as he suggested, and I used the demo version of JAWS for Windows, that
the system worked very nicely, and fast.
I strongly believe that the problem must be from the synthesiser I am
using. Actually, I use Micro sofft speech AI4 which I use through
viavoice outloud. I appear to like the synthesiser, because it is
very clear and it sounds like eloquence. But it appears obsolete and
not very helpful.
I can't use the JAWS demo version, because it works in 40 minute mode,
and one cannot usee that when doing serious work on the computer.
I downloaded Microsoft speech version 11 but it couldn't be installed
on my system. I did it several times but it didn't work. i cannot
use ESpeak, because I don't understand the speech. I tried koba
speech as well, but the speech for that is also not very easy to
comprehend.
So, can anyone suggest another synthesiser. I use windows 7 32bit.
I am Ibrahim from Nigeria.

Hi Ibrahim


There 2 parts to the speech platform synth and voices.

One is the speech synth engine and the other is the voices.


This is from off the website of mine of what to do to get them.


How to install Microsoft Speech Platform and voices (free) for NVDA
There are Microsoft voices that you can use with NVDA. These are called
Microsoft Speech Platform Runtime Languages. Firstly, you will need the
Microsoft Speech Platform to be able to run them.

If you have not downloaded the Microsoft Speech Platform, it is
available from the following link
http://www.microsoft.com/download/en/details.aspx?id=27225
You will need the x86 version of the file.

If you have downloaded the Microsoft Speech Platform, you can get
version 11 voices for it (called Runtime Languages) from the following link
http://www.microsoft.com/download/en/details.aspx?id=27224

The heading on the page should be: Microsoft Speech Platform - Runtime
Languages (Version 11). If for example I wanted an English voice called
Helen, I would click on one called MSSpeech_TTS_en-US_Helen.msi Please
be aware that TTS stands for text to speech, and SR stands for speech
recognition. You are looking for the TTS ones. Once downloaded, double
click on the file and it will automatically set up to the correct
location. Go back into NVDA settings Insert + N... Preferences...
Synthesizer... (In the dropdown list of synthesizers select) Microsoft
Speech Platform... Tab to OK and press Enter. Go back into your settings
Insert + N... Preferences... Voice settings... (under the Voice combo
box) arrow down to select the voice you wish to use. Tab to OK and press
Enter. You can of course alter the rate, pitch and volume to suit your
own needs. You will need to make sure that if you have version 10.2
that you use 10.2 voices, and if you get version 11 then you will need
to get the version 11 voices. For version 10.2 please refer to the NVDA
user manual for more information under supported synthesizers.


I am just looking at the page or pages now to get the synth engine and
voices.


if you are unsure which ones to get i will download the engine and all
the voices to my pc then zip them up and drop box them for you. or
others who might be interested in installing them.


I will do this shortly.


by the way there is another free synth package called speechhub that you
might want to use. the voices are only in english.

You can get the speech hub package from the following link at
http://www.speakon.org.uk/

Gene nz




On 5/12/2016 5:28 PM, Ibrahim Ajayi wrote:

Hi good people:
If you can recollect, I did send a message to this group about my NVDA
not working properly. I did get many responses, and I thank all of
you who found time to respond. I am sorry I mistakenly deleted the
digest mail sent to me, and I can not reply to the mail. But I
believe some of you might remember the mail.
Actually, I got a very good response from David. He made some
suggestions which I've tried. I discovered when I switched off NVDa
as he suggested, and I used the demo version of JAWS for Windows, that
the system worked very nicely, and fast.
I strongly believe that the problem must be from the synthesiser I am
using. Actually, I use Micro sofft speech AI4 which I use through
viavoice outloud. I appear to like the synthesiser, because it is
very clear and it sounds like eloquence. But it appears obsolete and
not very helpful.
I can't use the JAWS demo version, because it works in 40 minute mode,
and one cannot usee that when doing serious work on the computer.
I downloaded Microsoft speech version 11 but it couldn't be installed
on my system. I did it several times but it didn't work. i cannot
use ESpeak, because I don't understand the speech. I tried koba
speech as well, but the speech for that is also not very easy to
comprehend.
So, can anyone suggest another synthesiser. I use windows 7 32bit.
I am Ibrahim from Nigeria.

Hi Nasrin,

Is Potplayer freely available? If so, do you have a URL please and I will
download and test it myself as well.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 5:48 PM, nasrin khaksar <nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com>
wrote:

hi quentin.
i decided to stay on 2015.3 for always because in the latest versions
nvda has problems with potplayer and when i press alt+f4 nvda when i
press start menu says unknown and its a big issue for me.
because i only use potplayer and when i open files, most of times, i
should use alt+control+n to revert nvda to its normal working.
15.3 until 16.2 were more stable for me.
but since 16.2 and 3, sometimes nvda says nothing or becomes completely
silent.
in this case, i afraid of maybe my system is hacked or my windows has
problems or not working properly.

github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues.6513its for potplayer and some others
players and for the problem in espeak new version with farsi
punctuations
github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/6514

but i realy love the new features of nvda including selection of
documents and impprovements in using firefox and now, i use 16.3
could you please solve the problem which i mentioned in 16.4 to use it
without any issues?
thanks extremely quentin.
do you have skype account for further details and contact about
different subjects?


On 12/5/16, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:

I mainly use an old version because I don't use new NVDA features, as I

said

before. But also, I prefer the old way of using what was called Flat
Review. I prefer always being in screen review when I activate review

mode

in the old version and the automatic return to object navigation when I
switch to another window. I could get used to the new system but since
I
don't need to, I don't bother.

Also, I don't think there is any way to import the speech dictionaries

other

then to actually copy and paste the files. I could do that easily
enough
but I don't since I have no need. But I am reminded of something

regarding

the dictionaries. I think there should be an export and an import
dictionaries item in the dictionary interface itself.

Gene
From: Quentin Christensen
Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2016 5:55 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Is any release prior to the latest stable release,

and

the next RC release, officially supported? #NVDARelease


Hi Brian,


Essentially only the latest stable (and currently as you noted, RC)

versions

of NVDA are supported, in that if we fix a bug, that fix will only go

into a

new build.


Ideally, if someone is having a problem and finds that reverting to an
earlier build resolves the issue, we'd very much prefer they
communicate
that to us via a GitHub issue, or at least here on the list or to me
personally so that we can endeavour to resolve it. The current version
should still work at least as far back as Windows XP (If anyone is
using
Windows 98 or earlier, I'd be curious to hear your experiences with
NVDA
just for my own interest if nothing else).


Perhaps this thread might be a good place for anyone who is using a

version

of NVDA prior to 2016.3, to share why that is? I can ensure that any

issues

are recorded on GitHub, but I'd also be able to compile a list that I
can
take back to Mick and Jamie and say "these are issues that are
currently
keeping users on old versions of NVDA".


Kind regards


Quentin.


On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 9:23 AM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com>

wrote:

The subject pretty much asks it all.

In topic after topic I see people saying that they're using old,
often
really old, versions of NVDA. That is entirely their choice, and I'm
not
questioning that.

What I'd like to know is how many versions, if any, other than the

latest

stable release and the RC releases, are "officially" supported by

NVAccess.

Knowing how much change occurs as releases roll out over time I know

it's

impossible to keep supporting prior releases in perpetuity or anything

close

to it. I also know that it generally makes no sense to try to
replicate

a

bug in a release different than the one it's been detected in except as

an

effort to determine if it is a "carry forward" that was previously
undetected versus newly introduced.

It's almost impossible to know "what's what" unless individuals using

NVDA

are all using the latest stable version so far as issue reporting goes.
That's why, particularly for open-source software, I make it a habit to
religiously upgrade to the latest release whether I need the latest

"bells

and whistles" or not. Unless there is some really buggy release (and
I'm
talking generally, not NVDA in particular) it just makes everyone's
lives
much easier.
--
Brian


Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.

If

you’re alive, it isn’t.

~ Lauren Bacall






















--

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Training Material Developer
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available:
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in the very authentic narration is:
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best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org

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http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Ph +61 7 3149 3306
Direct: +61 413 904 383
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Twitter: @NVAccess

Hi Nasrin,

I think the problem the other poster was having was with Skype under
Windows 8.1 rather than XP, but it's handy to know everything works in XP
still.

Regards

Quentin.

On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 6:03 PM, nasrin khaksar <nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com>
wrote:

hi quentin.
i use xp.
in which version or versions of skype, this problem happened?
i dont have any problem using xp with skype 6.21 and also now i use
7.26 version of skype.
i tried skype 7.26 with only nvda 16.3 and did not test with the
previous versions of nvda.
i tested skype 6.21 and did not have any problem with even previous
versions of nvda.
can i help you in this regard?

On 12/5/16, Quentin Christensen <quentin@nvaccess.org> wrote:

Can any other Windows 8.1 users please confirm (or refute?) Bhavya's
findings with Skype desktop using NVDA 2016.4rc1 please?

That is: "In this release candidate, in Skype for Desktop,
on a Windows 8.1 machine, NVDA is at random yet frequent moments
constantly repeating a certain Skype name. It is also mishandling
incoming Skype chats, by announcing the sender's name twice, and then
providing the expected speech feedback."

From other comments, it seems it doesn't happen in Windows 10. Is
anyone
trying this combination under Windows 7 (or for completeness, XP, since
there are a couple of XP users in the thread)?

Regards

Quentin.

On Sun, Dec 4, 2016 at 7:03 AM, Bhavya shah <bhavya.shah125@gmail.com>
wrote:

Hi,
This buggy behaviour is specific to NVDA version 2016.4 RC 1, and I
did not notice this while using version 2016.3. For the record, the
Skype version in use at my end is Skype™‎ Version 7.29.0.102.
Thanks.

On 12/4/16, Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@tiflotecnia.com> wrote:

Using Windows 10, Skype 7.29, NVDA 2016.4RC1, I do not have that

behaviour.

Rui


-----Mensagem Original-----
De: Bhavya shah
Data: 3 de dezembro de 2016 18:27
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2016.4rc1 released

Hi,
I would like other testers to try replicating this issue, in order
to
confirm its presence. In this release candidate, in Skype for
Desktop,
on a Windows 8.1 machine, NVDA is at random yet frequent moments
constantly repeating a certain Skype name. It is also mishandling
incoming Skype chats, by announcing the sender's name twice, and
then
providing the expected speech feedback. I would like to believe that
opening of Skype for Desktop with an account receiving Skype chats
periodically should suffice in attempts to reproduce this odd
behaviour.
Otherwise, all features and functionalities in NVDA version 2016.4
RC
1 seem well-implemented and bug-free to me.
Thanks.

On 12/3/16, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi, Quentin,



I was able to log in to my gmail account. I didn't change my
password
so
I
don't know what's going on with the mail ap. It worked before so I
don't
know what else to do. I'm glad I have outlook or thunderbird for

emailing

for right now.



Rosemarie







From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Quentin
Christensen
Sent: Friday, December 2, 2016 10:45 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2016.4rc1 released



Hi Rosemarie,



You might need to log in with your account again? Perhaps you have
changed
your password etc elsewhere?



On Sat, Dec 3, 2016 at 10:22 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria
<knitqueen2007@gmail.com <mailto:knitqueen2007@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi, David,



I just tried the mail ap but I got this message saying my account
was

out

of
date. I was thinking of using it but I don't think so now.



Rosemarie







From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> ] On
Behalf
Of
David Moore
Sent: Friday, December 2, 2016 3:02 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2016.4rc1 released



Hi all,

Thank you so much Quenton for posting this great news. I just found
out
that
NVDA 2016.4rc1 makes the weather app and the store more accessible.

Also,

the mail app works much better with NvDA. This is so exciting. I
will

let

you know how NVDA now works in many apps.

David Moore

Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986>;
for
Windows
10



From: Quentin Christensen <mailto:quentin@nvaccess.org>
Sent: Friday, December 2, 2016 2:52 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] NVDA 2016.4rc1 released



Hi all,

NVDA 2016.4rc1 has just been released for testing. This is a
release
candidate, which means that unless any critical issues are found,

this

will be identical to the final 2016.4 release.

See this blog post for what's new and a download link:
<http://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2016-4rc1-released/>;
http://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2016-4rc1-released/



Regards



Quentin.




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Best Regards
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www.nvaccess.org)

Contacting Me
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Follow me on Twitter @BhavyaShah125 or www.twitter.com/BhavyaShah125
Mobile Number: +91 7506221750

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(www.nvaccess.org)

Contacting Me
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Follow me on Twitter @BhavyaShah125 or www.twitter.com/BhavyaShah125
Mobile Number: +91 7506221750

--
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Training Material Developer
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available:
http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Ph +61 7 3149 3306
Direct: +61 413 904 383
www.nvaccess.org
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess

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holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org

--
Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer
Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available:
http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Ph +61 7 3149 3306
Direct: +61 413 904 383
www.nvaccess.org
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess

hi gene.
could you please say about the quality of the speech voices that you mentioned?
whats there different with espeak?
does your second voice need one extra installation like microsoft
speech platform?

On 12/5/16, Dejan Ristic <r.dejan83@gmail.com> wrote:

Although you said that you did not understand ESpeak, what do you think
about using some of the variants it offers us? For instance, I use Iven
3, which I find very clear. I have set the rate at 24. I do not
encounter any problems, probably because I use ESpeak, which I find very
quick and responsive. Try to get used to it. Your messages say that your
English is very good, so I think that you may get used to it before
long. Choose between the variants, and try different rates to make it
suitable for yourself. Let me also say that I used ESpeak while doing
some freelace translations from English to Serbian, and vice versa. I
was successful.


On 12/5/2016 5:28 AM, Ibrahim Ajayi wrote:

Hi good people:
If you can recollect, I did send a message to this group about my NVDA
not working properly. I did get many responses, and I thank all of
you who found time to respond. I am sorry I mistakenly deleted the
digest mail sent to me, and I can not reply to the mail. But I
believe some of you might remember the mail.
Actually, I got a very good response from David. He made some
suggestions which I've tried. I discovered when I switched off NVDa
as he suggested, and I used the demo version of JAWS for Windows, that
the system worked very nicely, and fast.
I strongly believe that the problem must be from the synthesiser I am
using. Actually, I use Micro sofft speech AI4 which I use through
viavoice outloud. I appear to like the synthesiser, because it is
very clear and it sounds like eloquence. But it appears obsolete and
not very helpful.
I can't use the JAWS demo version, because it works in 40 minute mode,
and one cannot usee that when doing serious work on the computer.
I downloaded Microsoft speech version 11 but it couldn't be installed
on my system. I did it several times but it didn't work. i cannot
use ESpeak, because I don't understand the speech. I tried koba
speech as well, but the speech for that is also not very easy to
comprehend.
So, can anyone suggest another synthesiser. I use windows 7 32bit.
I am Ibrahim from Nigeria.



.

Although you said that you did not understand ESpeak, what do you think
about using some of the variants it offers us? For instance, I use Iven
3, which I find very clear. I have set the rate at 24. I do not
encounter any problems, probably because I use ESpeak, which I find very
quick and responsive. Try to get used to it. Your messages say that your
English is very good, so I think that you may get used to it before
long. Choose between the variants, and try different rates to make it
suitable for yourself. Let me also say that I used ESpeak while doing
some freelace translations from English to Serbian, and vice versa. I
was successful.


On 12/5/2016 5:28 AM, Ibrahim Ajayi wrote:

Hi good people:
If you can recollect, I did send a message to this group about my NVDA
not working properly. I did get many responses, and I thank all of
you who found time to respond. I am sorry I mistakenly deleted the
digest mail sent to me, and I can not reply to the mail. But I
believe some of you might remember the mail.
Actually, I got a very good response from David. He made some
suggestions which I've tried. I discovered when I switched off NVDa
as he suggested, and I used the demo version of JAWS for Windows, that
the system worked very nicely, and fast.
I strongly believe that the problem must be from the synthesiser I am
using. Actually, I use Micro sofft speech AI4 which I use through
viavoice outloud. I appear to like the synthesiser, because it is
very clear and it sounds like eloquence. But it appears obsolete and
not very helpful.
I can't use the JAWS demo version, because it works in 40 minute mode,
and one cannot usee that when doing serious work on the computer.
I downloaded Microsoft speech version 11 but it couldn't be installed
on my system. I did it several times but it didn't work. i cannot
use ESpeak, because I don't understand the speech. I tried koba
speech as well, but the speech for that is also not very easy to
comprehend.
So, can anyone suggest another synthesiser. I use windows 7 32bit.
I am Ibrahim from Nigeria.



.

hi.
did you try espeak iven3 voice?
i realy love it, read many books with it and its very natural and
clear and with friendly voice.
try it and let pitch be 50, infliction between 70 and 80 with
unchecking the rate boost and rate be 30.
try it and let me know.
i am realy satisfied with this great voice with these settings.

On 12/5/16, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,


Did you try Microsoft Anna? That voice isn't too bad.


Rosemarie




On 12/4/2016 8:28 PM, Ibrahim Ajayi wrote:

Hi good people:
If you can recollect, I did send a message to this group about my NVDA
not working properly. I did get many responses, and I thank all of
you who found time to respond. I am sorry I mistakenly deleted the
digest mail sent to me, and I can not reply to the mail. But I
believe some of you might remember the mail.
Actually, I got a very good response from David. He made some
suggestions which I've tried. I discovered when I switched off NVDa
as he suggested, and I used the demo version of JAWS for Windows, that
the system worked very nicely, and fast.
I strongly believe that the problem must be from the synthesiser I am
using. Actually, I use Micro sofft speech AI4 which I use through
viavoice outloud. I appear to like the synthesiser, because it is
very clear and it sounds like eloquence. But it appears obsolete and
not very helpful.
I can't use the JAWS demo version, because it works in 40 minute mode,
and one cannot usee that when doing serious work on the computer.
I downloaded Microsoft speech version 11 but it couldn't be installed
on my system. I did it several times but it didn't work. i cannot
use ESpeak, because I don't understand the speech. I tried koba
speech as well, but the speech for that is also not very easy to
comprehend.
So, can anyone suggest another synthesiser. I use windows 7 32bit.
I am Ibrahim from Nigeria.

Hi good people:
If you can recollect, I did send a message to this group about my NVDA
not working properly. I did get many responses, and I thank all of
you who found time to respond. I am sorry I mistakenly deleted the
digest mail sent to me, and I can not reply to the mail. But I
believe some of you might remember the mail.
Actually, I got a very good response from David. He made some
suggestions which I've tried. I discovered when I switched off NVDa
as he suggested, and I used the demo version of JAWS for Windows, that
the system worked very nicely, and fast.
I strongly believe that the problem must be from the synthesiser I am
using. Actually, I use Micro sofft speech AI4 which I use through
viavoice outloud. I appear to like the synthesiser, because it is
very clear and it sounds like eloquence. But it appears obsolete and
not very helpful.
I can't use the JAWS demo version, because it works in 40 minute mode,
and one cannot usee that when doing serious work on the computer.
I downloaded Microsoft speech version 11 but it couldn't be installed
on my system. I did it several times but it didn't work. i cannot
use ESpeak, because I don't understand the speech. I tried koba
speech as well, but the speech for that is also not very easy to
comprehend.
So, can anyone suggest another synthesiser. I use windows 7 32bit.
I am Ibrahim from Nigeria.


.

Hi good people:
If you can recollect, I did send a message to this group about my NVDA
not working properly. I did get many responses, and I thank all of
you who found time to respond. I am sorry I mistakenly deleted the
digest mail sent to me, and I can not reply to the mail. But I
believe some of you might remember the mail.
Actually, I got a very good response from David. He made some
suggestions which I've tried. I discovered when I switched off NVDa
as he suggested, and I used the demo version of JAWS for Windows, that
the system worked very nicely, and fast.
I strongly believe that the problem must be from the synthesiser I am
using. Actually, I use Micro sofft speech AI4 which I use through
viavoice outloud. I appear to like the synthesiser, because it is
very clear and it sounds like eloquence. But it appears obsolete and
not very helpful.
I can't use the JAWS demo version, because it works in 40 minute mode,
and one cannot usee that when doing serious work on the computer.
I downloaded Microsoft speech version 11 but it couldn't be installed
on my system. I did it several times but it didn't work. i cannot
use ESpeak, because I don't understand the speech. I tried koba
speech as well, but the speech for that is also not very easy to
comprehend.
So, can anyone suggest another synthesiser. I use windows 7 32bit.
I am Ibrahim from Nigeria.