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Re: Using NVDA with Google Chrome and Microsoft Edge

 

Can you give us a version number of Microsoft Edge and Chrome?





On 2/26/2020 3:27 PM, Sandra Johnson wrote:

Hello:

 

I am new to this list and using NVDA.  I had Jaws on my Windows 7 computer and only used NVDA occasionally.  Now that I have Windows 10 my Jaws is too old so I am relying on NVDA and the limited ability of Narrator.  I am having trouble with Chrome and Edge.  I have the latest version of NVDA, Edge and Chrome on a Windows 10 Pro computer.  When I go to Edge or Chrome I get a lot of unnecessary characters and symbols reading me font sizes, line spacing and other nonsense.  It does not happen with Internet Explorer only Edge and Chrome.  What NVDA settings do I have to change to make this stop happening?  Any help will be appreciated.  The Microsoft help desk was not able to solve this problem even after three calls.    

 

Sandra Johnson

SLJohnson25@...

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Using NVDA with Google Chrome and Microsoft Edge

Sandra Johnson <SLJohnson25@...>
 

Hello:

 

I am new to this list and using NVDA.  I had Jaws on my Windows 7 computer and only used NVDA occasionally.  Now that I have Windows 10 my Jaws is too old so I am relying on NVDA and the limited ability of Narrator.  I am having trouble with Chrome and Edge.  I have the latest version of NVDA, Edge and Chrome on a Windows 10 Pro computer.  When I go to Edge or Chrome I get a lot of unnecessary characters and symbols reading me font sizes, line spacing and other nonsense.  It does not happen with Internet Explorer only Edge and Chrome.  What NVDA settings do I have to change to make this stop happening?  Any help will be appreciated.  The Microsoft help desk was not able to solve this problem even after three calls.    

 

Sandra Johnson

SLJohnson25@...

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: vocalizer speech addon for NVDA

Mike Sedmak
 

At guys sells the synth, but is not the developer. Did you buy the
Tiplotechnia (sp?) or code factory version?

On 2/26/20, Jackie <abletec@...> wrote:
I & others have reported this issue w/Eloquence & 1core voices as
well, so it looks like the Vocalizer synths can also be added to those
that don't increase pitch w/capitalization as anticipated.

On 2/26/20, Don H <lmddh50@...> wrote:
I purchased the Vocalizer NVDA addon from A T Guys. It works fairly
well except for having the ability to have the pitch raised at a level
that is detectable. My biggest issue is not getting any response from
the support team at A T Guys having sent several requests for support
and not getting any response from A T Guys.





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Re: web pages not refreshing

Greg Wocher
 

Hello,
I have seen this issue with JAWS 2020. It happens to me quite frequently on Amazon. I have seen it with NVDA as well but not quite as often. I mainly see this behavior in chromium based browsers. I have not noticed it in Firefox.

Greg Wocher

On Feb 26, 2020, at 2:09 PM, Don H <lmddh50@...> wrote:

Some say that the problem with web pages not refreshing is a browser problem and not a NVDA issue. I just went to several web pages using Google Chrome and Jaws 2020 and the web pages refreshed as they should. So for me anyway it seems to be a NVDA issue.




Re: NVDA 2019.3.1 Not saying selected and unselected

David Mackenzie
 

Hi,


That helped.


Doh! I had 3rd party voice Ivona 2 Amy selected.

DaaveApparently not now fully compatible. Shaame, otherwise seems to work well.

On 26/02/2020 15:42, Roger Stewart wrote:
All I can say is this is working fine for me here. It always announces the item I land on whether by arrowing or using first letter navigation.
Roger





On 2/26/2020 9:33 AM, David Mackenzie wrote:
Hi,

With 19.3.1 and windows 10 (up-to-date) NVDA will not say selected or unselected on highlighted files/folders/shortcuts when typingCtrl and space bar.  If I do a quick search using the first letter, the first instance of a file/ folder/shortcut is selected, but not spoken by NVDA, I have to arrow down then up to confirm selection.


This true onn 3 Differemt Computerrs tried, one brand new.


All add-ons have been removed.  The situation is the same when loading NVDA 19.3.1 onto a brand new computer.

Reinstalling 19.2.1 resolves the problem.

Any help is appreciated.  Is this a bug or will changing a setting resolve this?

Thank you,

David Mackenzie













web pages not refreshing

Don H
 

Some say that the problem with web pages not refreshing is a browser problem and not a NVDA issue. I just went to several web pages using Google Chrome and Jaws 2020 and the web pages refreshed as they should. So for me anyway it seems to be a NVDA issue.


Re: web pages not refreshing

Gene
 

The way to have checked this before the recent information came out would have been very simple.  You would run the last version of NVDA, either as a portable or installed program, and tested the same situations in Chrome that are causing problems with the newest NVDA version. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2020 12:39 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] web pages not refreshing

It is not a NVDA issue at all. When running portable google chrome beta 8.1 the problem disappears. It is a problem with chrome 8.0.x. Chrome 8.1 is scheduled to be released mid of March.

Cheers,
  Ralf

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Mittwoch, 26. Februar 2020 19:08
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] web pages not refreshing

I have found that sometimes the insert F5 does not resolve the problem and that a alt tab does.  It sure would be nice if this issue was resolved as part of a NVDA update if it is really a NVDA issue.

On 2/26/2020 10:42 AM, Dave Grossoehme wrote:
> Good morning:  The windows hotkey of f5 also refreshes as well. Have
> you tried this key stroke?
>
> Dave
>
>
> On 2/20/2020 1:27 PM, Don H wrote:
>> Running NVDA 2019.3.1 on a win 10 laptop using either Google Chrome
>> or Microsoft Edge as my browser.
>> Running into more and more issues with web pages not being refreshed
>> so that NVDA reads the new page after hitting enter on a link or
>> other control.  Have to use the alt tab keys to get NVDA back on the
>> new refreshed page.
>> Is this issue being addressed by the NVDA development team?
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>








Re: vocalizer speech addon for NVDA

Jackie
 

I & others have reported this issue w/Eloquence & 1core voices as
well, so it looks like the Vocalizer synths can also be added to those
that don't increase pitch w/capitalization as anticipated.

On 2/26/20, Don H <lmddh50@...> wrote:
I purchased the Vocalizer NVDA addon from A T Guys. It works fairly
well except for having the ability to have the pitch raised at a level
that is detectable. My biggest issue is not getting any response from
the support team at A T Guys having sent several requests for support
and not getting any response from A T Guys.




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Re: web pages not refreshing

Ralf Kefferpuetz
 

It is not a NVDA issue at all. When running portable google chrome beta 8.1 the problem disappears. It is a problem with chrome 8.0.x. Chrome 8.1 is scheduled to be released mid of March.

Cheers,
Ralf

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Mittwoch, 26. Februar 2020 19:08
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] web pages not refreshing

I have found that sometimes the insert F5 does not resolve the problem and that a alt tab does. It sure would be nice if this issue was resolved as part of a NVDA update if it is really a NVDA issue.

On 2/26/2020 10:42 AM, Dave Grossoehme wrote:
Good morning: The windows hotkey of f5 also refreshes as well. Have
you tried this key stroke?

Dave


On 2/20/2020 1:27 PM, Don H wrote:
Running NVDA 2019.3.1 on a win 10 laptop using either Google Chrome
or Microsoft Edge as my browser.
Running into more and more issues with web pages not being refreshed
so that NVDA reads the new page after hitting enter on a link or
other control. Have to use the alt tab keys to get NVDA back on the
new refreshed page.
Is this issue being addressed by the NVDA development team?
Thanks






Re: web pages not refreshing

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi


Part of a message below about chrome.


We've had a couple of reports of similar things.  I can reproduce at least some of the issues as well.  I believe they stem from recent Chrome updates (since Chrome updates itself behind the scenes, it can be hard to notice until something goes wrong, and when it comes around the time you've updated something like your screen reader, it's easy to be unsure exactly who to blame).


Gene nz

On 27/02/2020 7:07 am, Don H wrote:
I have found that sometimes the insert F5 does not resolve the problem and that a alt tab does.  It sure would be nice if this issue was resolved as part of a NVDA update if it is really a NVDA issue.

On 2/26/2020 10:42 AM, Dave Grossoehme wrote:
Good morning:  The windows hotkey of f5 also refreshes as well. Have you tried this key stroke?

Dave


On 2/20/2020 1:27 PM, Don H wrote:
Running NVDA 2019.3.1 on a win 10 laptop using either Google Chrome or Microsoft Edge as my browser.
Running into more and more issues with web pages not being refreshed so that NVDA reads the new page after hitting enter on a link or other control.  Have to use the alt tab keys to get NVDA back on the new refreshed page.
Is this issue being addressed by the NVDA development team?
Thanks







vocalizer speech addon for NVDA

Don H
 

I purchased the Vocalizer NVDA addon from A T Guys. It works fairly well except for having the ability to have the pitch raised at a level that is detectable. My biggest issue is not getting any response from the support team at A T Guys having sent several requests for support and not getting any response from A T Guys.


Re: web pages not refreshing

Don H
 

I have found that sometimes the insert F5 does not resolve the problem and that a alt tab does. It sure would be nice if this issue was resolved as part of a NVDA update if it is really a NVDA issue.

On 2/26/2020 10:42 AM, Dave Grossoehme wrote:
Good morning:  The windows hotkey of f5 also refreshes as well. Have you tried this key stroke?
Dave
On 2/20/2020 1:27 PM, Don H wrote:
Running NVDA 2019.3.1 on a win 10 laptop using either Google Chrome or Microsoft Edge as my browser.
Running into more and more issues with web pages not being refreshed so that NVDA reads the new page after hitting enter on a link or other control.  Have to use the alt tab keys to get NVDA back on the new refreshed page.
Is this issue being addressed by the NVDA development team?
Thanks




Re: web pages not refreshing

Felix G.
 

Yes, F5 has been around for some time.

Am Mi., 26. Feb. 2020 um 18:43 Uhr schrieb Monte Single <mrsingle@...>:






Hi Folks,I started using Internet explorer with win 95 and I used the f5 key to refresh the browser.

Yes, it is a windows keystroke and I started using it with Internet Epplorer and win 95 and that was in the last millennium.

At that time I was using screen magnification. So as I said in my previous post, Now I use f5 with chrome and firefox and nvda as the screenreader.



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: February-26-20 10:54 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] web pages not refreshing



I didn't think that keyboard keystroke existed? Windows f5 I mean. What does that do exactly. Do you mean control f5 to force refresh the page?

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On 26 Feb 2020, at 8:42, Dave Grossoehme wrote:

Good morning: The windows hotkey of f5 also refreshes as well. Have you tried this key stroke?

Dave

On 2/20/2020 1:27 PM, Don H wrote:

Running NVDA 2019.3.1 on a win 10 laptop using either Google Chrome or Microsoft Edge as my browser.
Running into more and more issues with web pages not being refreshed so that NVDA reads the new page after hitting enter on a link or other control. Have to use the alt tab keys to get NVDA back on the new refreshed page.
Is this issue being addressed by the NVDA development team?
Thanks


Re: changes in speech in NVDA 2019.3

Felix G.
 

I don't think the speech refactor affects specific synths, so the
Espeak issues described here are probably the result of an Espeak
update or a subtle sound driver issue. I'm guessing though, so use
grain of salt heuristics
Greetings,
Felix

Am Mi., 26. Feb. 2020 um 17:35 Uhr schrieb Gene <gsasner@...>:


Use the silence utility and see if that helps. It generates some sort of inaudible sound that keeps the sound card always on. I may have it on my Dropbox and I'll send it later if I do.

Gene
----- Origianal Message -----
From: David Csercsics
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2020 7:10 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] changes in speech in NVDA 2019.3

Well, both of these cards use the built-in Microsoft USB audio driver.
I've got all the Windows audio enhancements disabled, because it seems
that it is better for sound supposedly if you do that. I'm not sure what
other implications that has though.



Re: web pages not refreshing

Monte Single
 

 

 

Hi Folks,I started using Internet explorer with win 95 and  I used the f5 key to refresh the browser.

Yes, it is a windows keystroke and I started using it  with Internet Epplorer and win 95  and that was in the last millennium.

At that time I was using screen magnification.  So as I said in my previous post, Now I use f5  with chrome and firefox and nvda as the screenreader.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: February-26-20 10:54 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] web pages not refreshing

 

I didn't think that keyboard keystroke existed? Windows f5 I mean. What does that do exactly. Do you mean control f5 to force refresh the page?

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. This is also our libsyn page as well.

to subscribe to the feed click here

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on [twitch.](twitch.tv/ke7zum] Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.

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On 26 Feb 2020, at 8:42, Dave Grossoehme wrote:

Good morning:  The windows hotkey of f5 also refreshes as well. Have you tried this key stroke?

Dave

On 2/20/2020 1:27 PM, Don H wrote:

Running NVDA 2019.3.1 on a win 10 laptop using either Google Chrome or Microsoft Edge as my browser.
Running into more and more issues with web pages not being refreshed so that NVDA reads the new page after hitting enter on a link or other control.  Have to use the alt tab keys to get NVDA back on the new refreshed page.
Is this issue being addressed by the NVDA development team?
Thanks


Re: New Goldwave addon

 

Hi,

Correct – support for GoldWave 5.x is no more. There is one line that must be changed to bring support for GoldWave 5.x back, but note that your modification will be overridden after applying new updates (the next such update is scheduled for end of this week).

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright godfearer
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2020 9:23 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] New Goldwave addon

 

I am still running GoldWave 5.7 and the new NVDA update addon does not work with this version. 

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New Goldwave addon

Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 

I am still running GoldWave 5.7 and the new NVDA update addon does not work with this version. 
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Re: web pages not refreshing

Gene
 

F5 does something different.  It reloads the web page in the browser.  It also causes the browse mode buffer to refresh because that is what happens when you refresh the underlying web page.  I would think that using f5 would have very undesirable effects when doing something like filling out a form.  I would think that refreshing the underlying page would remove all information you previously added to the form.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2020 10:42 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] web pages not refreshing

Good morning:  The windows hotkey of f5 also refreshes as well. Have you
tried this key stroke?

Dave


On 2/20/2020 1:27 PM, Don H wrote:
> Running NVDA 2019.3.1 on a win 10 laptop using either Google Chrome or
> Microsoft Edge as my browser.
> Running into more and more issues with web pages not being refreshed
> so that NVDA reads the new page after hitting enter on a link or other
> control.  Have to use the alt tab keys to get NVDA back on the new
> refreshed page.
> Is this issue being addressed by the NVDA development team?
> Thanks
>
>
>
>



Re: web pages not refreshing

Sarah k Alawami
 

I didn't think that keyboard keystroke existed? Windows f5 I mean. What does that do exactly. Do you mean control f5 to force refresh the page?

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. This is also our libsyn page as well.

to subscribe to the feed click here

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on [twitch.](twitch.tv/ke7zum] Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.

For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page and my tffp lbry page

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 26 Feb 2020, at 8:42, Dave Grossoehme wrote:

Good morning:  The windows hotkey of f5 also refreshes as well. Have you tried this key stroke?

Dave

On 2/20/2020 1:27 PM, Don H wrote:

Running NVDA 2019.3.1 on a win 10 laptop using either Google Chrome or Microsoft Edge as my browser.
Running into more and more issues with web pages not being refreshed so that NVDA reads the new page after hitting enter on a link or other control.  Have to use the alt tab keys to get NVDA back on the new refreshed page.
Is this issue being addressed by the NVDA development team?
Thanks


Re: web pages not refreshing

Monte Single
 

Yes, I have used the f5 key by itself with Internet Explorer, Firefox and chrome with nvda as my screenreader.
I have never experienced the need for a secondary key such as insert.
Whatever works, I'll try it.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave Grossoehme
Sent: February-26-20 10:42 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] web pages not refreshing

Good morning: The windows hotkey of f5 also refreshes as well. Have you tried this key stroke?

Dave


On 2/20/2020 1:27 PM, Don H wrote:
Running NVDA 2019.3.1 on a win 10 laptop using either Google Chrome or
Microsoft Edge as my browser.
Running into more and more issues with web pages not being refreshed
so that NVDA reads the new page after hitting enter on a link or other
control. Have to use the alt tab keys to get NVDA back on the new
refreshed page.
Is this issue being addressed by the NVDA development team?
Thanks