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RE dropbox with XP

David Russell
 

Hello NVDA group,

I did not catch all the previous discussion concerning dropbox, but am
wondering are dropbox and the current version of NVDA compatible on
Win7 computers?

Also, is there a review or tutorial online that will teach one how to
access and use dropbox?

I belong to an online writing group, and part of its practice is to
use dropbox for written submissions. Thanks.

--
David Russell
david.sonofhashem@...
Character consists of what you do on the third and fourth tries.
James A. Michener


Re: OE Classic - Easy to use Outlook Express replacement

Gene
 

It is not accessible and it never has been.  It's been around for a number of years.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Pete
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 8:00 AM
Subject: [nvda] OE Classic - Easy to use Outlook Express replacement

https://www.oeclassic.com/

   Here is an interesting solution for the people that do not want to
give up outlook express.
   I wonder how it works with nvda.
   Some text about it is belo.
   Pete
OE Classic - Replacement for Outlook Express

OE Classic is an email and Usenet reader designed to be a perfect
replacement for Outlook Express, Windows Mail, Windows Live Mail and
even Mozilla Thunderbird.

The ultimate goal of OE Classic is to be an easy to use, fast, small and
secure program with lots of power features and yet, easy to use for a
beginner.
Your data always belongs to you as it is stored in a public-domain
format and there are no storage size limits.

Download OE Classic 2.51For Windows 10, Windows 8, Windows 7, Windows
Vista, Windows XP, Windows 2000

How does OE Classic compare to Outlook Express, Windows Mail and Windows
Live Mail?

This table shows some of similarities and differences between OE
Classic, Outlook Express, Windows Mail and Windows Live Mail. The table
is based on user
comments and our technical research.

table with 5 columns and 14 rows
Feature
Outlook Express
Windows Mail
Windows Live Mail 2009-2012
OE Classic
User interface
Simple
Simple, but some features missing like identities
More features missing, ribbons, unintuitive, takes more time for the
former Outlook Express user to get used to
Easy to use, very similar to Outlook Express
Identities
Yes
No
No
Yes (Pro version)
Message rules
Very limiting
Very limiting
Very limiting
Comprehensive set of rules and actions, easy to use
Address book
Windows Address Book (WAB)
Windows Contacts
Windows Contacts
Built-in
Message storage
Undocumented (closed source) proprietary database with access interface
(API) (DBX format)
Proprietary database with access interface (API) (EML/ESE/JetBlue format)
Proprietary database without access interface, your emails are locked in
proprietary database - this makes it difficult to export data
(EML/ESE/JetBlue format)
Public domain database formats (your email data belongs to you), all
formats are documented in the help (SQLite/MBX format)
Supported OS
Windows XP (and older)
Windows Vista only
Windows XP, Windows Vista, Windows 7 (2009)

Windows Vista, Windows 7, Windows 8 (2011)

Windows 7, Windows 8 (2012)
All modern Windows (and future Windows), Windows 10, Windows 8, Windows
7, Windows Vista, Windows XP, Windows 2000
Up to date
No
(only for Windows XP)
No
(only for Windows Vista)
No
(latest version 2012)
Yes
(actively developed and improved)
Folder limits
Only 2 GB (corruption may occur beyond this, quite easily exceeded)
Unknown
Unknown
No (limited only by disk size)
Secure message storage
No (possible folder corruption, especially with Compact function)
Unknown
Unknown
Yes (crash proof message saving, can even handle power-off in the middle
of message save)
User support
No
No
No
Quick and dedicated support directly from developers (read full benefits
on order page)
Easily move messages/data to new machine
No (needs third party programs)
No (needs third party programs)
No (needs third party programs)
Yes
Can you request new features?
No
No
No
Yes (paid users)
Price
Free with Windows XP purchase (bundled)
Free with Windows Vista purchase (bundled)
Free
Free / $24.95
table end

Download on
download
  page or order on
order
  page.





Re: To all xp users who were running dropbox

Gene
 

I don't know what the last exchange was between Mike and me on the list.  I had assumed that all exchanges were on list.  Perhaps the exchange where Mike explained the procedure was taken off list and sent only to me.  I haven't checked.  At any rate, what I explained should work and is the procedure, that Mike uses.
 
Gene

From: Arno Schuh
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 7:44 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox

Am Dienstag, 13. September 2016 14:16 schrieb Gene <gsasner@...>:

> I don't know how people didn't seem to read the exchange I had with
> Mike on this subject.  It appears that no one is using the method
> Mike uses, which works,

No it definately doesn't work here. If it works on your system - something
on your computer may be different to my or most of other XP machines. So if
it runs these way on your computer - that didn't mean it runs on any other
XP machine.

Arno

---

and as far as I can see, the version of Drop
> Box being used doesn't matter.  I have what, as far as I know, is the
> most recent version.
>
> If Drop Box is running, close it so you are starting from the same
> place as I did when I tried this.
> Then run Drop Box in the usual way, by pressing enter on the Drop Box
> icon on the desk top.
> Once it is ready, press enter on the icon again.
> Drop Box will open and read a message that says to log in, use
> control g.
> Execute the command control g.
> Your default browser will open on the Drop Box login page.
> Log in.
> You will be logged in in the Drop Box application and you will remain
> logged in using the application even if you close and reopen it.
>
> If you alt tab around, you may see a window at some point that is
> titled drop box error.  Ignore it.  You are not following a supported
> procedure, but the error window has no effect on what you are doing.
> All your files will be indexed again but once the indexing message
> disappears from the system tray information about Drop Box it will be
> ready to use.  It may take awhile for the indexing message to stop
> being displayed and.  You will see the usual up to date message after
> it disappears.  There will be a very brief time when you see some
> other message about changing a certain number of files or something
> like that but it doesn't matter.  It will be replaced with the up to
> date message.
>
> Gene





Re: Another possible browser alternative, vivaldi

Jacob Kruger
 

There's no real advantage, and, I came across it before had realised opera was just implementing chrome in a better interface than chrome itself offers...<smile>


Still plan to play around with it, since it might offer some additional interface customising, but, nothing major in terms of being specifically accessible, as far as I can tell thus far.


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."
On 2016-09-13 2:24 PM, Gene wrote:

I haven't used it enough to have an opinion about adding it to the list in terms of accessibility.  It appears to be more or less accessible from the little I played with it.  I may or may not be curious enough to test it further.  But my question is, what advantage does the browser present?  In my brief testing, I saw none.  I read a review in PC Magazine and the benefits appear to be those sighted people would be interested in.  I saw nothing that would improve useability for blind users.  We don't care and don't benefit from the kinds of visual differences you can choose such as stacking tabs in a different way. 
 
So, at present, my view is that even if the browser is included in the list of accessible browsers, I see no advantage in using it.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 2:05 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Another possible browser alternative, vivaldi

Hi Jacob


Just found your email and downloaded the browser to take it for a quick test drive. it seems pretty useable and also lets you use most quick navigation keys. I was able to go to different pages and go back to the main one etc


I have not had a look under the settings etc but it seem to speak out menus etc as wewll as the web content.


I wonder if others users have taken it for a test drive and what do they think of it as well, should it be added to the list of useable browsers it seems very likely. so far.


Gene nz


On 6/07/2016 8:10 PM, Jacob Kruger wrote:
Seems this browser uses something like some of chrome's elements to render actual web content, and just gave it a very quick try, but, the main reason is since, according the wired.com review came across of it, it's highly customisable in terms of most of it's interface - haven't had a chance to try too much of that as of yet, but, yes, could browse the 'net with it, and, while don't know many keyboard shortcuts - think you can also customise them, it seems usable:
 
Stay well

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."

-- 
Check out my website for nvda tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net


Re: NVDA and spell checker (Word 2013)

Babcock LDPVI
 

Thanks! I will try it out.



OE Classic - Easy to use Outlook Express replacement

Pete <emac00@...>
 

https://www.oeclassic.com/

Here is an interesting solution for the people that do not want to give up outlook express.
I wonder how it works with nvda.
Some text about it is belo.
Pete
OE Classic - Replacement for Outlook Express

OE Classic is an email and Usenet reader designed to be a perfect replacement for Outlook Express, Windows Mail, Windows Live Mail and even Mozilla Thunderbird.

The ultimate goal of OE Classic is to be an easy to use, fast, small and secure program with lots of power features and yet, easy to use for a beginner.
Your data always belongs to you as it is stored in a public-domain format and there are no storage size limits.

Download OE Classic 2.51For Windows 10, Windows 8, Windows 7, Windows Vista, Windows XP, Windows 2000

How does OE Classic compare to Outlook Express, Windows Mail and Windows Live Mail?

This table shows some of similarities and differences between OE Classic, Outlook Express, Windows Mail and Windows Live Mail. The table is based on user
comments and our technical research.

table with 5 columns and 14 rows
Feature
Outlook Express
Windows Mail
Windows Live Mail 2009-2012
OE Classic
User interface
Simple
Simple, but some features missing like identities
More features missing, ribbons, unintuitive, takes more time for the former Outlook Express user to get used to
Easy to use, very similar to Outlook Express
Identities
Yes
No
No
Yes (Pro version)
Message rules
Very limiting
Very limiting
Very limiting
Comprehensive set of rules and actions, easy to use
Address book
Windows Address Book (WAB)
Windows Contacts
Windows Contacts
Built-in
Message storage
Undocumented (closed source) proprietary database with access interface (API) (DBX format)
Proprietary database with access interface (API) (EML/ESE/JetBlue format)
Proprietary database without access interface, your emails are locked in proprietary database - this makes it difficult to export data (EML/ESE/JetBlue format)
Public domain database formats (your email data belongs to you), all formats are documented in the help (SQLite/MBX format)
Supported OS
Windows XP (and older)
Windows Vista only
Windows XP, Windows Vista, Windows 7 (2009)

Windows Vista, Windows 7, Windows 8 (2011)

Windows 7, Windows 8 (2012)
All modern Windows (and future Windows), Windows 10, Windows 8, Windows 7, Windows Vista, Windows XP, Windows 2000
Up to date
No
(only for Windows XP)
No
(only for Windows Vista)
No
(latest version 2012)
Yes
(actively developed and improved)
Folder limits
Only 2 GB (corruption may occur beyond this, quite easily exceeded)
Unknown
Unknown
No (limited only by disk size)
Secure message storage
No (possible folder corruption, especially with Compact function)
Unknown
Unknown
Yes (crash proof message saving, can even handle power-off in the middle of message save)
User support
No
No
No
Quick and dedicated support directly from developers (read full benefits on order page)
Easily move messages/data to new machine
No (needs third party programs)
No (needs third party programs)
No (needs third party programs)
Yes
Can you request new features?
No
No
No
Yes (paid users)
Price
Free with Windows XP purchase (bundled)
Free with Windows Vista purchase (bundled)
Free
Free / $24.95
table end

Download on
download
page or order on
order
page.


Re: To all xp users who were running dropbox

Arno Schuh
 

Am Dienstag, 13. September 2016 14:16 schrieb Gene <gsasner@...>:

I don't know how people didn't seem to read the exchange I had with
Mike on this subject. It appears that no one is using the method
Mike uses, which works,
No it definately doesn't work here. If it works on your system - something on your computer may be different to my or most of other XP machines. So if it runs these way on your computer - that didn't mean it runs on any other XP machine.

Arno

---

and as far as I can see, the version of Drop
Box being used doesn't matter. I have what, as far as I know, is the
most recent version.

If Drop Box is running, close it so you are starting from the same
place as I did when I tried this.
Then run Drop Box in the usual way, by pressing enter on the Drop Box
icon on the desk top.
Once it is ready, press enter on the icon again.
Drop Box will open and read a message that says to log in, use
control g.
Execute the command control g.
Your default browser will open on the Drop Box login page.
Log in.
You will be logged in in the Drop Box application and you will remain
logged in using the application even if you close and reopen it.

If you alt tab around, you may see a window at some point that is
titled drop box error. Ignore it. You are not following a supported
procedure, but the error window has no effect on what you are doing.
All your files will be indexed again but once the indexing message
disappears from the system tray information about Drop Box it will be
ready to use. It may take awhile for the indexing message to stop
being displayed and. You will see the usual up to date message after
it disappears. There will be a very brief time when you see some
other message about changing a certain number of files or something
like that but it doesn't matter. It will be replaced with the up to
date message.

Gene


Re: Microsoft Word with NVDA by NV Access now available

Quentin Christensen
 

Cearbhall,

Well picked up!  Yes that behaviour of the review cursor has changed just this week in NVDA 2016.3, and as you've reminded me, we need to update that sample section of the Basic Training for NVDA module.

Pressing NVDA+f10 twice (quickly) should copy the selection to the clipboard.  Depending on the type of object that has focus, selecting the text (the first press) may move the focus you are right, but it should copy if you press NVDA+f10 twice quickly - within say a second or less - similar to pressing NVDA+f12 twice quickly to get the date, or pressing any of the reading commands twice to spell something.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 9:52 PM, Cearbhall O'Meadhra <cearbhall.omeadhra@...> wrote:

Quentin,

 

I was trying out the free sample on the web page.

 

I am not fully familiar with the review cursor and so I tried to follow the sample exercise.  as I am a bit confused about the copying stroke. The manual says insert+F9 to start the mark and then one keystroke of insert F10 to copy it. However, NVDA keyboard help says that NVDA F10 should be pressed twice to copy the sleection. I also found that after pressing insert F10 twice, the caret  moved to the position of the word being copied and moved away from the last line position where it was expected to be.

 

I have repeated this several times with both a single insert+F10 and a double insert+F10 and I cannot get it to work.  Any advice?

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 8:14 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Microsoft Word with NVDA by NV Access now available

 

NV Access is very pleased to announce the release of "Microsoft Word with NVDA", the official training material for Microsoft Word with NVDA. It covers concepts from getting started with Word through to use of advanced features such as customising the status ribbon and running macros.

Available from: http://www.nvaccess.org/product/microsoft-word-training-for-nvda/ initially in eBook formats (Braille and audio to follow) for AUD $30 (+ $3 GST in Australia).

 

Microsoft Word with NVDA is the second module in the official set of training materials for learning to use the free NVDA screen reader. Suitable for the new and existing user of Microsoft Word wishing to improve proficiency. This module assumes that the user has completed the “Basic Training for NVDA” module, or has equivalent knowledge.

Topics covered include: Getting started with Microsoft Word, proofreading, styles, tables, page layout, referencing, inserting, collaboration and sharing and customising Word options. Formats included in this package: ePub, HTML, Word Docx and Mobi (Kindle).

The purchase price of this product supports the work of NV Access and our ability to provide the NVDA screen reading software free of charge.

If you would like to sample the style of the material prior to purchasing, we have made an extract of the Basic Training for NVDA module freely available on our website, http://www.nvaccess.org/.

 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer

Basic Training for NVDA E-Book now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

 

Direct: +61 413 904 383
www.nvaccess.org 
Facebook: 
http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 




--
Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer
Basic Training for NVDA E-Book now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Direct: +61 413 904 383
www.nvaccess.org 
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 


Re: Another possible browser alternative, vivaldi

Gene
 

I haven't used it enough to have an opinion about adding it to the list in terms of accessibility.  It appears to be more or less accessible from the little I played with it.  I may or may not be curious enough to test it further.  But my question is, what advantage does the browser present?  In my brief testing, I saw none.  I read a review in PC Magazine and the benefits appear to be those sighted people would be interested in.  I saw nothing that would improve useability for blind users.  We don't care and don't benefit from the kinds of visual differences you can choose such as stacking tabs in a different way. 
 
So, at present, my view is that even if the browser is included in the list of accessible browsers, I see no advantage in using it.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 2:05 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Another possible browser alternative, vivaldi

Hi Jacob


Just found your email and downloaded the browser to take it for a quick test drive. it seems pretty useable and also lets you use most quick navigation keys. I was able to go to different pages and go back to the main one etc


I have not had a look under the settings etc but it seem to speak out menus etc as wewll as the web content.


I wonder if others users have taken it for a test drive and what do they think of it as well, should it be added to the list of useable browsers it seems very likely. so far.


Gene nz


On 6/07/2016 8:10 PM, Jacob Kruger wrote:
Seems this browser uses something like some of chrome's elements to render actual web content, and just gave it a very quick try, but, the main reason is since, according the wired.com review came across of it, it's highly customisable in terms of most of it's interface - haven't had a chance to try too much of that as of yet, but, yes, could browse the 'net with it, and, while don't know many keyboard shortcuts - think you can also customise them, it seems usable:
 
Stay well

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."

-- 
Check out my website for nvda tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net


Re: To all xp users who were running dropbox

Gene
 

I don't know how people didn't seem to read the exchange I had with Mike on this subject.  It appears that no one is using the method Mike uses, which works, and as far as I can see, the version of Drop Box being used doesn't matter.  I have what, as far as I know, is the most recent version.
 
If Drop Box is running, close it so you are starting from the same place as I did when I tried this.
Then run Drop Box in the usual way, by pressing enter on the Drop Box icon on the desk top.
Once it is ready, press enter on the icon again.
Drop Box will open and read a message that says to log in, use control g.
Execute the command control g.
Your default browser will open on the Drop Box login page.
Log in.
You will be logged in in the Drop Box application and you will remain logged in using the application even if you close and reopen it. 
 
If you alt tab around, you may see a window at some point that is titled drop box error.  Ignore it.  You are not following a supported procedure, but the error window has no effect on what you are doing.
All your files will be indexed again but once the indexing message disappears from the system tray information about Drop Box it will be ready to use.  It may take awhile for the indexing message to stop being displayed and.  You will see the usual up to date message after it disappears.  There will be a very brief time when you see some other message about changing a certain number of files or something like that but it doesn't matter.  It will be replaced with the up to date message. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Arno Schuh
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 5:58 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox

Now I tried it with Dropbox 1.6.0.exe, Dropbox 2.11.46.exe and Dropbox 3.8.8
Offline Installer.exe and it is allways the same. Dropbox don't let me in.
It recognize that I try to connect from XP - and that's it.
So if somebody is able to log-in - lucky boy!

Yours sincerely

Arno


Am Dienstag, 13. September 2016 09:35 schrieb Brian's Mail list account
<bglists@...>:

> Well, I did not download it on two of the machines as they were still
> downloading the updates from dropbox, but one thing may be important
> as on one machine where the program had been uninstalled I used an
> old copy of the offline installer, ie not the stub based on normally used.
> This installed and worked and updated itself to the  latest
> version The other point of course is that all my machines do have the
> registry
> moddification to allow windows and msse updates till 2019, though it
> calls them  by a different name. The operating system still
> identifies itself as xp though.
> I have not  had time to test this again today, but its worked for a
> da few days so far.
>
> Brian





Re: Microsoft Word with NVDA by NV Access now available

Cearbhall O'Meadhra
 

Quentin,

 

I was trying out the free sample on the web page.

 

I am not fully familiar with the review cursor and so I tried to follow the sample exercise.  as I am a bit confused about the copying stroke. The manual says insert+F9 to start the mark and then one keystroke of insert F10 to copy it. However, NVDA keyboard help says that NVDA F10 should be pressed twice to copy the sleection. I also found that after pressing insert F10 twice, the caret  moved to the position of the word being copied and moved away from the last line position where it was expected to be.

 

I have repeated this several times with both a single insert+F10 and a double insert+F10 and I cannot get it to work.  Any advice?

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

 

 

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 8:14 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Microsoft Word with NVDA by NV Access now available

 

NV Access is very pleased to announce the release of "Microsoft Word with NVDA", the official training material for Microsoft Word with NVDA. It covers concepts from getting started with Word through to use of advanced features such as customising the status ribbon and running macros.

Available from: http://www.nvaccess.org/product/microsoft-word-training-for-nvda/ initially in eBook formats (Braille and audio to follow) for AUD $30 (+ $3 GST in Australia).

 

Microsoft Word with NVDA is the second module in the official set of training materials for learning to use the free NVDA screen reader. Suitable for the new and existing user of Microsoft Word wishing to improve proficiency. This module assumes that the user has completed the “Basic Training for NVDA” module, or has equivalent knowledge.

Topics covered include: Getting started with Microsoft Word, proofreading, styles, tables, page layout, referencing, inserting, collaboration and sharing and customising Word options. Formats included in this package: ePub, HTML, Word Docx and Mobi (Kindle).

The purchase price of this product supports the work of NV Access and our ability to provide the NVDA screen reading software free of charge.

If you would like to sample the style of the material prior to purchasing, we have made an extract of the Basic Training for NVDA module freely available on our website, http://www.nvaccess.org/.

 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer

Basic Training for NVDA E-Book now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

 

Direct: +61 413 904 383
www.nvaccess.org 
Facebook: 
http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 


Re: break copyright. Re: [nvda] Microsoft Word with NVDA by NV Access now available

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Simone,

Thank you very much for your interest in translating our material.  We are certainly interested in having the material available in alternate languages, and at the same time, we also realise this would be quite a considerable task.  I would definitely be interested in talking with you further if you could please e-mail me at quentin@...

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 8:56 PM, Simone Dal Maso <simone.dalmaso@...> wrote:
This is really a useful documentation.
I will buy it during these days, I have a question:
if I translate the document in italian, do you think I will break copyright?
I really don't want to make things that can create problems to me or NvAccess, but this kind of document is very useful, what do you think about this, translating in other languages?




Il 13/09/2016 09:14, Quentin Christensen ha scritto:
NV Access is very pleased to announce the release of "Microsoft Word
with NVDA", the official training material for Microsoft Word with NVDA.
It covers concepts from getting started with Word through to use of
advanced features such as customising the status ribbon and running macros.

Available from:
http://www.nvaccess.org/product/microsoft-word-training-for-nvda/
initially in eBook formats (Braille and audio to follow) for AUD $30 (+
$3 GST in Australia).


Microsoft Word with NVDA is the second module in the official set of
training materials for learning to use the free NVDA screen reader.
Suitable for the new and existing user of Microsoft Word wishing to
improve proficiency. This module assumes that the user has completed the
“Basic Training for NVDA” module, or has equivalent knowledge.

Topics covered include: Getting started with Microsoft Word,
proofreading, styles, tables, page layout, referencing, inserting,
collaboration and sharing and customising Word options. Formats included
in this package: ePub, HTML, Word Docx and Mobi (Kindle).

The purchase price of this product supports the work of NV Access and
our ability to provide the NVDA screen reading software free of charge.

If you would like to sample the style of the material prior to
purchasing, we have made an extract of the Basic Training for NVDA
module freely available on our website, http://www.nvaccess.org/.


--
Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer
Basic Training for NVDA E-Book now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Ph +61 7 3149 3306 <tel:%2B61%207%203149%203306>
Direct: +61 413 904 383
www.nvaccess.org <http://www.nvaccess.org/>
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess








--
Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer
Basic Training for NVDA E-Book now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Direct: +61 413 904 383
www.nvaccess.org 
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 


Re: To all xp users who were running dropbox

Arno Schuh
 

Now I tried it with Dropbox 1.6.0.exe, Dropbox 2.11.46.exe and Dropbox 3.8.8 Offline Installer.exe and it is allways the same. Dropbox don't let me in. It recognize that I try to connect from XP - and that's it.
So if somebody is able to log-in - lucky boy!

Yours sincerely

Arno


Am Dienstag, 13. September 2016 09:35 schrieb Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>:

Well, I did not download it on two of the machines as they were still
downloading the updates from dropbox, but one thing may be important
as on one machine where the program had been uninstalled I used an
old copy of the offline installer, ie not the stub based on normally used. This installed and worked and updated itself to the latest
version The other point of course is that all my machines do have the registry
moddification to allow windows and msse updates till 2019, though it
calls them by a different name. The operating system still
identifies itself as xp though.
I have not had time to test this again today, but its worked for a
da few days so far.

Brian


break copyright. Re: [nvda] Microsoft Word with NVDA by NV Access now available

Simone Dal Maso
 

This is really a useful documentation.
I will buy it during these days, I have a question:
if I translate the document in italian, do you think I will break copyright?
I really don't want to make things that can create problems to me or NvAccess, but this kind of document is very useful, what do you think about this, translating in other languages?

Il 13/09/2016 09:14, Quentin Christensen ha scritto:
NV Access is very pleased to announce the release of "Microsoft Word
with NVDA", the official training material for Microsoft Word with NVDA.
It covers concepts from getting started with Word through to use of
advanced features such as customising the status ribbon and running macros.

Available from:
http://www.nvaccess.org/product/microsoft-word-training-for-nvda/
initially in eBook formats (Braille and audio to follow) for AUD $30 (+
$3 GST in Australia).


Microsoft Word with NVDA is the second module in the official set of
training materials for learning to use the free NVDA screen reader.
Suitable for the new and existing user of Microsoft Word wishing to
improve proficiency. This module assumes that the user has completed the
“Basic Training for NVDA” module, or has equivalent knowledge.

Topics covered include: Getting started with Microsoft Word,
proofreading, styles, tables, page layout, referencing, inserting,
collaboration and sharing and customising Word options. Formats included
in this package: ePub, HTML, Word Docx and Mobi (Kindle).

The purchase price of this product supports the work of NV Access and
our ability to provide the NVDA screen reading software free of charge.

If you would like to sample the style of the material prior to
purchasing, we have made an extract of the Basic Training for NVDA
module freely available on our website, http://www.nvaccess.org/.


--
Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer
Basic Training for NVDA E-Book now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Ph +61 7 3149 3306 <tel:%2B61%207%203149%203306>
Direct: +61 413 904 383
www.nvaccess.org <http://www.nvaccess.org/>
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess


Re: Microsoft Word with NVDA by NV Access now available

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Clare,

Firstly, I'm glad you found the Basic Training for NVDA book useful!

With the Microsoft Word with NVDA book, and I just realised I didn't include this in the blurb, we tried to make it as broad as possible, as we did with the Basic Training for NVDA book.  What that means in terms of versions, is that we wrote it based around Microsoft Word 2010 through to 2016.

I have a computer with Office 2007 on it here myself and so I tested many of the activities and in fact quite a lot works similarly between Office 2007 and Office 2010.  Off the top of my head, I think the find command (control+f) is one - in that it uses the (simpler?) dialog box in 2007 instead of the task pane of later versions, and there are a couple of other things I can't think of off the top of my head.

In any case, I'm happy to offer that if you work through the book and find anything that you can't figure out in Word 2007, drop me a line and I'll have a look and figure it out for you.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 8:24 PM, Clare Page <clare.page@...> wrote:

Hi!

Having bought the « Basic Trainning For NVDA” e-book when it came out and found it useful, I am definitely tempted to buy the new e-book about Microsoft Word at some point; Before I decide whether to do so, I have an important question. Is this book a general guide to using NVDA with Microsoft Word, or is it geared towards any particular’ version of Word? I currently use Word 2007 here, and I know later versions of Word are different in some ways, so I would simply like to know which versions of Microsoft Word this new book covers.

Thanks in advance for you reply.

Bye for now!

From Clare

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: mardi 13 septembre 2016 09:14
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Microsoft Word with NVDA by NV Access now available

 

NV Access is very pleased to announce the release of "Microsoft Word with NVDA", the official training material for Microsoft Word with NVDA. It covers concepts from getting started with Word through to use of advanced features such as customising the status ribbon and running macros.

Available from: http://www.nvaccess.org/product/microsoft-word-training-for-nvda/ initially in eBook formats (Braille and audio to follow) for AUD $30 (+ $3 GST in Australia).

 

Microsoft Word with NVDA is the second module in the official set of training materials for learning to use the free NVDA screen reader. Suitable for the new and existing user of Microsoft Word wishing to improve proficiency. This module assumes that the user has completed the “Basic Training for NVDA” module, or has equivalent knowledge.

Topics covered include: Getting started with Microsoft Word, proofreading, styles, tables, page layout, referencing, inserting, collaboration and sharing and customising Word options. Formats included in this package: ePub, HTML, Word Docx and Mobi (Kindle).

The purchase price of this product supports the work of NV Access and our ability to provide the NVDA screen reading software free of charge.

If you would like to sample the style of the material prior to purchasing, we have made an extract of the Basic Training for NVDA module freely available on our website, http://www.nvaccess.org/.

 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer

Basic Training for NVDA E-Book now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

 

Direct: +61 413 904 383
www.nvaccess.org 
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 




--
Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer
Basic Training for NVDA E-Book now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Direct: +61 413 904 383
www.nvaccess.org 
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 


Re: Microsoft Word with NVDA by NV Access now available

Clare Page <clare.page@...>
 

Hi!

Having bought the « Basic Trainning For NVDA” e-book when it came out and found it useful, I am definitely tempted to buy the new e-book about Microsoft Word at some point; Before I decide whether to do so, I have an important question. Is this book a general guide to using NVDA with Microsoft Word, or is it geared towards any particular’ version of Word? I currently use Word 2007 here, and I know later versions of Word are different in some ways, so I would simply like to know which versions of Microsoft Word this new book covers.

Thanks in advance for you reply.

Bye for now!

From Clare

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: mardi 13 septembre 2016 09:14
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Microsoft Word with NVDA by NV Access now available

 

NV Access is very pleased to announce the release of "Microsoft Word with NVDA", the official training material for Microsoft Word with NVDA. It covers concepts from getting started with Word through to use of advanced features such as customising the status ribbon and running macros.

Available from: http://www.nvaccess.org/product/microsoft-word-training-for-nvda/ initially in eBook formats (Braille and audio to follow) for AUD $30 (+ $3 GST in Australia).

 

Microsoft Word with NVDA is the second module in the official set of training materials for learning to use the free NVDA screen reader. Suitable for the new and existing user of Microsoft Word wishing to improve proficiency. This module assumes that the user has completed the “Basic Training for NVDA” module, or has equivalent knowledge.

Topics covered include: Getting started with Microsoft Word, proofreading, styles, tables, page layout, referencing, inserting, collaboration and sharing and customising Word options. Formats included in this package: ePub, HTML, Word Docx and Mobi (Kindle).

The purchase price of this product supports the work of NV Access and our ability to provide the NVDA screen reading software free of charge.

If you would like to sample the style of the material prior to purchasing, we have made an extract of the Basic Training for NVDA module freely available on our website, http://www.nvaccess.org/.

 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer

Basic Training for NVDA E-Book now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

 

Direct: +61 413 904 383
www.nvaccess.org 
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 


Re: ms word order

 

thanks for that.

On 13/09/2016 9:31 p.m., Quentin Christensen wrote:
Ok, Mick is the one who looks after that side of things so I've asked him
to have a look and make sure you're only charged once. We might not be
able to see until tomorrow, I'm not sure - either way, we'll let you know.

Regards

Quentin.

On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 7:09 PM, Shaun Everiss <@smeveriss> wrote:

twice.
I got 2 recipts.
saying I was charged for both orders.
I know the files will not expire on any of my orders.
The item is still showing in my cart to.
I didn't get the recipt for the canceled order so that at least is good
however the item has not removed itself from my account cart.



On 13/09/2016 8:41 p.m., Quentin Christensen wrote:

You can keep the second as a backup :)

Did it charge you twice, or just once?

On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 6:39 PM, Shaun Everiss <@smeveriss>
wrote:

Hi.
Hmmm looks like the server was slow I have 2 coppies of the book, now, I
don't want the second one






Re: ms word order

Quentin Christensen
 

Ok, Mick is the one who looks after that side of things so I've asked him to have a look and make sure you're only charged once.  We might not be able to see until tomorrow, I'm not sure - either way, we'll let you know.

Regards

Quentin.

On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 7:09 PM, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@...> wrote:
twice.
I got 2 recipts.
saying I was charged for both orders.
I know the files will not expire on any of my orders.
The item is still showing in my cart to.
I didn't get the recipt for the canceled order so that at least is good however the item has not removed itself from my account cart.



On 13/09/2016 8:41 p.m., Quentin Christensen wrote:
You can keep the second as a backup :)

Did it charge you twice, or just once?

On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 6:39 PM, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@...> wrote:

Hi.
Hmmm looks like the server was slow I have 2 coppies of the book, now, I
don't want the second one












--
Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer
Basic Training for NVDA E-Book now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Direct: +61 413 904 383
www.nvaccess.org 
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 


Re: ms word order

 

twice.
I got 2 recipts.
saying I was charged for both orders.
I know the files will not expire on any of my orders.
The item is still showing in my cart to.
I didn't get the recipt for the canceled order so that at least is good however the item has not removed itself from my account cart.

On 13/09/2016 8:41 p.m., Quentin Christensen wrote:
You can keep the second as a backup :)

Did it charge you twice, or just once?

On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 6:39 PM, Shaun Everiss <@smeveriss> wrote:

Hi.
Hmmm looks like the server was slow I have 2 coppies of the book, now, I
don't want the second one




Re: ms word order

Quentin Christensen
 

You can keep the second as a backup :)

Did it charge you twice, or just once?

On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 6:39 PM, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@...> wrote:
Hi.
Hmmm looks like the server was slow I have 2 coppies of the book, now, I don't want the second one






--
Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer
Basic Training for NVDA E-Book now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Direct: +61 413 904 383
www.nvaccess.org 
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess