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Re: The mail app in windows 10

David Moore
 

Hey Gene,

The neat thing is that the commands are a lot like the ones in Windows live mail. With NVDA, it is so much better to use the review cursor commands instead of using the arrow keys. NvDA does not say what you type in the mail app. Work needs to be done with NVDA to work in the mail app as good as JAWS does. JAWS works great! For some reason, NVDA does not work as well as it use to in the mail app. I hope they can make those fixes in 2016.4.

Let me know if you want my tutorial. I go into much detail on how to use the mail, people, and calendar apps.

Take care, Gene.

David Moore

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Gene New Zealand
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 3:46 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] The mail app in windows 10

 

Hi guys

 

Just a quick question. In windows 10 in the mail app is there a way of

replying to a message or even forwarding it on? I can not seem to find

any buttons or no matter what I do to reply to a message or forward one.

fIs this the way the app is designed more just to read and delete etc.

 

I did also notice that when you typed in to the message of the body plus

the subject line there was no key echo, but would read back what you typed.

 

I was seeing if it worked or not as one of my hotmail accounts refuses

to work now and no matter what I do in mozilla thunderbird to make it

work is no longer working.

 

Gene nz

 

 

 

 


Re: colum headers in thunderbird

 

William, the following is a cut and paste from an accessibility central webpage (see here) regarding using NVDA and Thunderbird.  Since the method suggested for what you wish to do involves object navigation I have to believe the instructions are recent:

Using drag and drop with NVDA to rearrange column headers in Mozilla Thunderbird 

If you would like to move a column from one area to another in the email header, you will need to tab from tree view into your email message list. Next put NVDA into object navigation mode.  Use the NVDA key + the number 1 on the numeric keypad to do this.

If I wanted to move a particular column to another location (IE before or after the current column) I would do the following in the header of the email.

From the message list, I would press the NVDA key + the number 4 on the numeric keypad until I heard the name of the column I wanted to move (for example Status). I would then press NVDA + Numpad divide (above the number 8 on the numeric keypad) to route the mouse pointer there. Then you would press Shift + Numpad divide again to lock the left mouse button. Press the NVDA key + Numpad 4 again a number of times until you hear the name of the column immediately before the column I want to move the selected column to (for example next to unread). Press the NVDA key + Numpad divide to put the mouse pointer there, and press the Shift key + Numpad divide to unlock the left mouse button.

Please note: You can also use the NVDA key + the number 6 on the numeric keypad to move it back the other way then unlock it in that position. 

Now, when you arrow down or up your messages, you will notice the difference when NVDA reads it out.


For an audio tutorial on how to insert and remove columns in Mozilla Thunderbird, as well as moving your column from one position to another using drag and drop with NVDA, please visit the following link https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/64177841/adding%20or%20removing%20columns%20plus%20drag%20and%20dropping%20in%20mozilla%20thunderbird.MP3

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Brian

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    ~ Lauren Bacall

    



The mail app in windows 10

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi guys

Just a quick question. In windows 10 in the mail app is there a way of
replying to a message or even forwarding it on? I can not seem to find
any buttons or no matter what I do to reply to a message or forward one.
fIs this the way the app is designed more just to read and delete etc.

I did also notice that when you typed in to the message of the body plus
the subject line there was no key echo, but would read back what you typed.

I was seeing if it worked or not as one of my hotmail accounts refuses
to work now and no matter what I do in mozilla thunderbird to make it
work is no longer working.

Gene nz


Re: Comments in Word

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Kelby,

From what you say, it sounds like you're doing the right things.  If you're able to share the file with me off-list I'd be happy to have a look for you and see if it's doing anything strangely.

Otherwise, what version of Word are you using?

Regards

Quentin.

On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 1:29 AM, kelby carlson <kelbycarlson@...> wrote:
All,

I'm having a couple of issues reading comments in a word document:

First, when I arrow to a comment, it will temm me what the comment is,
but pressing alt-nvda-c doesn't read the comment to me, it just says
that it's there. Second, when I press nvda+f7 and arrow to comments,
it doesn't show any comments in the tree view even though I know there
are a number of them.

Help is much appreciated.






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Re: colum headers in thunderbird

majno
 

You can do it using the mouse. I think is the only way right now.

El 21-Nov-16 a las 2:59 PM, William Sallander escribió:
Greetings everybody:


I have the latest version of Thunderbird and I wish to re-arrange the column headers.

I've been all over the place and can't seem to figure out the correct procedures to accomplish this.

It seemed like it was possible in earlier versions.

Any ideas anyone?




colum headers in thunderbird

William Sallander <wsallander@...>
 

Greetings everybody:


I have the latest version of Thunderbird and I wish to re-arrange the column headers.

I've been all over the place and can't seem to figure out the correct procedures to accomplish this.

It seemed like it was possible in earlier versions.

Any ideas anyone?


Re: how do you perform these updates

Chris Mullins
 

Hi Ken

As suggested, have a look in your System tray accessed using Windows+b.  Depending on your configuration, you may or may not have all background programs displayed here as you use the arrow keys to scroll through the icons.  If you land on a button described as ‘Notification chevron button’, press the spacebar, then use up arrow to navigate the overflow notification toolbar.  You will find a button to launch your Java updates in here.

 

Cheers

Chris    

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of ken lawrence via Groups.Io
Sent: 21 November 2016 15:13
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] how do you perform these updates

 

Hi listers ken with a question.  I repeatedly get, new notifications from both java and adobe saying updates are available click here but by the time you do anything the balloon or icon is gone.  the notification isn’t in the action senter on windows 10.  the computer had been on for over two hours before they popped up this time.  all my screen reader sees is the microsoft edge running pandora window.  these are apparently critical updates.  how do I get to them manually to allow the updates to install.  it is only on the screen for a fraction of a second.  by the time NVDA is saying click here to comtinue there is no here to click. 


Re: how do you perform these updates

Mallard
 

Hello Brian,

Many thanks for this one. I'm going to install it myself, and recommend it to other visually impaired and sighted friends alike.

Ciao,

Ollie

Il 21/11/2016 16:37, Brian Vogel ha scritto:

Following up Gene's mention of avoiding having bundled potentially unwanted programs (PUPs) installed, I cannot recommend anything more highly than Unchecky <https://unchecky.com/>;. I initially learned about this and suggested installing it only to my blind and visually impaired clients, but very quickly dropped that limitation and now recommend it to all. I use it myself so that if I get in a hurry and miss one of those checkboxes I should have unchecked it is done for me.

Yes, it runs constantly as a background process, but its resource footprint is incredibly small and light. If you want to avoid PUPs, which have become so common since the scourge of endless bundling as become /de rigueur,/ Unchecky is an excellent tool for doing so and is the PUP equivalent of an antivirus scanner.
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//~ Lauren Bacall



Re: Set application-specific dictionary

Salva <sadm@...>
 

Hi.
I think we have not this function, but in the nvda spanish list we were talking about this the last week. Noelia said that this is a request for that.
Salva

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El 21 nov 2016, a las 17:45, majno <alfred.hl@...> escribió:

And replace words with sound also would be great!    


El 21-Nov-16 a las 11:32 AM, Olcay AŞCI escribió:
Hi everyone
 
I know there is no such feature but; Is there a suggestion yada plugin for this? This issue is very important.
 
Windows 10 için Posta ile gönderildi
 



Re: Set application-specific dictionary

majno
 

And replace words with sound also would be great!   


El 21-Nov-16 a las 11:32 AM, Olcay AŞCI escribió:

Hi everyone

 

I know there is no such feature but; Is there a suggestion yada plugin for this? This issue is very important.

 

Windows 10 için Posta ile gönderildi

 



Set application-specific dictionary

Olcay AŞCI
 

Hi everyone

 

I know there is no such feature but; Is there a suggestion yada plugin for this? This issue is very important.

 

Windows 10 için Posta ile gönderildi

 


Re: how do you perform these updates

 

Following up Gene's mention of avoiding having bundled potentially unwanted programs (PUPs) installed, I cannot recommend anything more highly than Unchecky.  I initially learned about this and suggested installing it only to my blind and visually impaired clients, but very quickly dropped that limitation and now recommend it to all.  I use it myself so that if I get in a hurry and miss one of those checkboxes I should have unchecked it is done for me.

Yes, it runs constantly as a background process, but its resource footprint is incredibly small and light.  If you want to avoid PUPs, which have become so common since the scourge of endless bundling as become de rigueur, Unchecky is an excellent tool for doing so and is the PUP equivalent of an antivirus scanner.
--
Brian

Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.  If you’re alive, it isn’t.

    ~ Lauren Bacall

    



Re: how do you perform these updates

Gene
 

Look in the system tray.  As far as adobe updates are concerned, I don't know what programs you receive these notifications for.  You can update Adobe Reader from within the program if you can't from the system tray.  Adobe Flash can be updated on the Flash web site.  If you are going to use the web site, let us know so we can discuss avoiding having extra potentially unwanted programs installed when you update.
 
My point is that you don't have to use help balloons to do most things of this sort.  The system tray or in the programs themselves will usually provide options.  For a lot of things, help balloons are not exclusive.  there is usually another way to do the same things.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 9:13 AM
Subject: [nvda] how do you perform these updates

Hi listers ken with a question.  I repeatedly get, new notifications from both java and adobe saying updates are available click here but by the time you do anything the balloon or icon is gone.  the notification isn’t in the action senter on windows 10.  the computer had been on for over two hours before they popped up this time.  all my screen reader sees is the microsoft edge running pandora window.  these are apparently critical updates.  how do I get to them manually to allow the updates to install.  it is only on the screen for a fraction of a second.  by the time NVDA is saying click here to comtinue there is no here to click. 


Re: how do you perform these updates

Roger Stewart
 

Sometimes you can find them by using the action center notifications.  The way I do these is to use Ninite to get them. This is much easier and quite often, the updater in Java will fail after downloading about 70% of the file and it never gets to even start to install the update.  The Ninite installer works every time.

Roger









On 11/21/2016 9:13 AM, ken lawrence via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi listers ken with a question.  I repeatedly get, new notifications from both java and adobe saying updates are available click here but by the time you do anything the balloon or icon is gone.  the notification isn’t in the action senter on windows 10.  the computer had been on for over two hours before they popped up this time.  all my screen reader sees is the microsoft edge running pandora window.  these are apparently critical updates.  how do I get to them manually to allow the updates to install.  it is only on the screen for a fraction of a second.  by the time NVDA is saying click here to comtinue there is no here to click. 



how do you perform these updates

ken lawrence
 

Hi listers ken with a question.  I repeatedly get, new notifications from both java and adobe saying updates are available click here but by the time you do anything the balloon or icon is gone.  the notification isn’t in the action senter on windows 10.  the computer had been on for over two hours before they popped up this time.  all my screen reader sees is the microsoft edge running pandora window.  these are apparently critical updates.  how do I get to them manually to allow the updates to install.  it is only on the screen for a fraction of a second.  by the time NVDA is saying click here to comtinue there is no here to click. 


Re: Removing bookmarks in Firefox with NVDA

Mallard
 

Thanks Gene.

Ciao,

Ollie

Il 21/11/2016 15:07, Gene ha scritto:
Any time you want to do something like this in various programs, go to the item and check the context menu. You don't have to go the the web page. Move to the book mark in the list, and use the context menu to delete it.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Mallard <mailto:mallard@kimabe.eu>
*Sent:* Monday, November 21, 2016 7:52 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* [nvda] Removing bookmarks in Firefox with NVDA

Hello all,

I'm trying to remove some bookmarks from Firefox.
I'm running Windows10, Firevox 50.0, NVDA latest Next snapshot.

I looked up the topic in Firefox support guide, but it talks about
"visiting the page one wants to remove; going to the address bar;
clicking on an icon whth a star; clicking on Delete".

But there's no icon with a star spoken by NVDA.

Any suggestions, please?
Thanks, ciao,
Ollie



Comments in Word

kelby carlson
 

All,

I'm having a couple of issues reading comments in a word document:

First, when I arrow to a comment, it will temm me what the comment is,
but pressing alt-nvda-c doesn't read the comment to me, it just says
that it's there. Second, when I press nvda+f7 and arrow to comments,
it doesn't show any comments in the tree view even though I know there
are a number of them.

Help is much appreciated.


Re: Removing bookmarks in Firefox with NVDA

Gene
 

Any time you want to do something like this in various programs, go to the item and check the context menu.  You don't have to go the the web page.  Move to the book mark in the list, and use the context menu to delete it.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Mallard
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 7:52 AM
Subject: [nvda] Removing bookmarks in Firefox with NVDA

Hello all,

I'm trying to remove some bookmarks from Firefox.
I'm running Windows10, Firevox 50.0, NVDA latest Next snapshot.

I looked up the topic in Firefox support guide, but it talks about
"visiting the page one wants to remove; going to the address bar;
clicking on an icon whth a star; clicking on Delete".

But there's no icon with a star spoken by NVDA.

Any suggestions, please?
Thanks, ciao,
Ollie



Removing bookmarks in Firefox with NVDA

Mallard
 

Hello all,

I'm trying to remove some bookmarks from Firefox.
I'm running Windows10, Firevox 50.0, NVDA latest Next snapshot.

I looked up the topic in Firefox support guide, but it talks about
"visiting the page one wants to remove; going to the address bar; clicking on an icon whth a star; clicking on Delete".

But there's no icon with a star spoken by NVDA.

Any suggestions, please?
Thanks, ciao,
Ollie


Re: third party rss readers

Salva <sadm@...>
 

Hi.
Menu bar, view or visualization, reading mode.
Salva

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El 21 nov 2016, a las 10:10, Sukil Etxenike via Groups.Io <sukiletxe@...> escribió:

Hi,

Wow, I didn't know that mode existed in Firefox. How is it activated?

Sukil



El 21/11/2016 a las 9:57, Salva escribió:
Hi.
A mode of visualisation like the reader mode in iOS or Mac. It filters the advers and only show you the text. It only appears wen the text is laveled article.
Salva

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El 21 nov 2016, a las 9:55, Sukil Etxenike via Groups.Io <sukiletxe@...> escribió:

I also use Firefox. What's the reading mode?

Sukil



El 21/11/2016 a las 9:12, Simone Dal Maso escribió:
I simply use Firefox with the bookmark live.
And when I want to read an article I activate the reading mode.

For the iphone instead I use lire rss.

Il 20/11/2016 13:47, Christopher Bartlett ha scritto:
Has anyone found a desktop rss reader that works well with NVDA?  I'm
currently using goread.io <http://goread.io>, which is a distinctly
dissatisfactory service.



--
Christopher Bartlett