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Re: Google drive and nvda question
Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...>
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Shruggs,
Yeah, I kind a noticed.
Chris.
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Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...>
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Uh, Gene, we're talking about Google Drive here,
not Dropbox. The dl=1 or 0 is for Dropbox, not Drive, as far as I'm
aware.
Chris.
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Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...>
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How in the world did you figure this
out!
This is fantastic! They still need to get this
fixed, in my opinion, but that said, at least there is a way.
Chris.
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Gene
I thought you were asking about Drop box. I
often read messages and don't read subject lines. Disregard my last
message. It refers to Drop Box.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 8:59 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Google drive and nvda question Before you follow the link, change the 0 at the end
to a 1. Then follow the link. Paste the link as it is into the
browser address bar. Then move to the end and change the 0 to a 1.
Then press enter to follow the address.
The standard download dialog will come up.
for this answer, I am assuming you received such a
link as an e-mail message. I am also assuming you see ?dl=0 at the end of
the link.
Gene
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From: Christopher-Mark Gilland
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 8:35 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Google drive and nvda question Here's what the heck I! wanna know! Someone sent me
a share link to a .rar file.
I had to use my phone, as I couldn't figure out how
to download the dad blame thing. I would press enter on the download button, but
as soon as I did, I'd hear the sound that NVDA plays like, when you hit enter on
a text field on the web to begin typing. I tried down arrowing at that point, as
I kind of remember it in the past giving a menu when you click download that
would say save to drive, or download to my computer, but I couldn't even get
that! to pop up.
So once on the page for a shared file, in Firefox,
how in the heck do you then go about actually getting the download window asking
to open with, or save to pop up as usual with any other file from any other
source?
Chris.
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Gene
Before you follow the link, change the 0 at the end
to a 1. Then follow the link. Paste the link as it is into the
browser address bar. Then move to the end and change the 0 to a 1.
Then press enter to follow the address.
The standard download dialog will come up.
for this answer, I am assuming you received such a
link as an e-mail message. I am also assuming you see ?dl=0 at the end of
the link.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Christopher-Mark Gilland
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 8:35 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Google drive and nvda question Here's what the heck I! wanna know! Someone sent me
a share link to a .rar file.
I had to use my phone, as I couldn't figure out how
to download the dad blame thing. I would press enter on the download button, but
as soon as I did, I'd hear the sound that NVDA plays like, when you hit enter on
a text field on the web to begin typing. I tried down arrowing at that point, as
I kind of remember it in the past giving a menu when you click download that
would say save to drive, or download to my computer, but I couldn't even get
that! to pop up.
So once on the page for a shared file, in Firefox,
how in the heck do you then go about actually getting the download window asking
to open with, or save to pop up as usual with any other file from any other
source?
Chris.
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Re: Google drive and nvda question
The big problem with the way Google Drive shares files is that it insists you open them in its own manager window before you download them, which is a PITA no matter who is dealing with them. Here's a bit of a "geek secret" that can, if you're good with copying and pasting, make it much easier to do a direct download of a file for which you've been sent a Google Drive sharing link. Here, for example, is the native Google Drive share link for a PDF file on one of my Google Drive Accounts, in this case a PDF (though the type shouldn't matter): https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B61gLtsXt4oqQnoyTnRDVGF4aDQ the long alphanumeric string after the "id=" part of the URL is the FILE_ID. If you activate this link the file does not directly download, but you go into the Google Docs presentation manager for the file, and you can download from there. However, if accessibility is an issue, or you just want to create a link for a shared file that will directly download it if the recipient activates it, you will use a URL in this format: https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=XXXX where you paste the actual FILE ID you copied over the XXXX that I stuck at the end of the example. Here's the one that allows direct download of the previously mentioned file: https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=0B61gLtsXt4oqQnoyTnRDVGF4aDQ and when you activate it you should get your standard Windows (or Mac, if that's what you're using) save dialog unless you have your web browser set to always save to the same location, then the file will just be placed in that folder. Life is the art of drawing sufficient conclusions from insufficient premises. ~ Samuel Butler, 1835-1902
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Rosemarie Chavarria wrote with regard to the year 2002 and Internet Explorer:
I think it was IE 6 at that time. Give the lady a cigar (or a drink, or small prize of her choice)! See the wikipedia article on IE6. For more IE history than most people would want, see the main wikipedia article on IE. Life is the art of drawing sufficient conclusions from insufficient premises. ~ Samuel Butler, 1835-1902
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Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...>
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Here's what the heck I! wanna know! Someone sent me
a share link to a .rar file.
I had to use my phone, as I couldn't figure out how
to download the dad blame thing. I would press enter on the download button, but
as soon as I did, I'd hear the sound that NVDA plays like, when you hit enter on
a text field on the web to begin typing. I tried down arrowing at that point, as
I kind of remember it in the past giving a menu when you click download that
would say save to drive, or download to my computer, but I couldn't even get
that! to pop up.
So once on the page for a shared file, in Firefox,
how in the heck do you then go about actually getting the download window asking
to open with, or save to pop up as usual with any other file from any other
source?
Chris.
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Rosemarie Chavarria
I think it was IE 6 at that time.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 6:11 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] trying to find my gmail account in the webbie browser
Oh okay. Cause my room mate got her first xp box 2002 I think we had IE whatever Microsoft had.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Hi, Arleen,
I think Alasdair King started developing it in 2001. I didn't have a computer until 2003 when I got the old windows 98 computer from Computers for the Blind in Texas.
Rosemarie
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Arlene
Oh yeah? Like I said. I never heard of it!
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Hi, Brian,
The one thing I like about the webbie browser is that it takes out all the extra clutter that you see on a lot of sites. I'll probably use it mainly for downloading songs from my friend's oldies site. I do like that you can hear the percentages. It's just like how internet explorer 8 used to be.
Rosemarie
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of brian
The reason that some of us use webie isthat it was designed for the blind and if anyone canshow me a brouser that does what I like webiefor then I will concitering changing my brouser but nvda still needs to have full support on other brousers and it is very important to know if your downloads are progressing or not because your internet may drop out on you and you may not know it if you can't heard the progress of your downloads. You should not need any add ons to your brouser to do this nvda should be able to do this. If it's true that webie will no longer work very soon then the developers should be working very hard and fast to make nvda work with all brousers and togive us access to the progress of our downloads like webie does. I will keep on using webie until it no longer works at all. Nvda is updates 3 times per year so why arethe developers not doing more in this area? Maybe nvda could develope it's own brouser that would do what webie does there is no other brouser designed for the blind they are all designed by and for the sighted. Brian Sackrider
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Arlene
Oh okay. Cause my room mate got her first xp box 2002 I think we had IE whatever Microsoft had.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: December-21-16 5:54 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] trying to find my gmail account in the webbie browser
Hi, Arleen,
I think Alasdair King started developing it in 2001. I didn't have a computer until 2003 when I got the old windows 98 computer from Computers for the Blind in Texas.
Rosemarie
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Arlene
Oh yeah? Like I said. I never heard of it!
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Hi, Brian,
The one thing I like about the webbie browser is that it takes out all the extra clutter that you see on a lot of sites. I'll probably use it mainly for downloading songs from my friend's oldies site. I do like that you can hear the percentages. It's just like how internet explorer 8 used to be.
Rosemarie
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of brian
The reason that some of us use webie isthat it was designed for the blind and if anyone canshow me a brouser that does what I like webiefor then I will concitering changing my brouser but nvda still needs to have full support on other brousers and it is very important to know if your downloads are progressing or not because your internet may drop out on you and you may not know it if you can't heard the progress of your downloads. You should not need any add ons to your brouser to do this nvda should be able to do this. If it's true that webie will no longer work very soon then the developers should be working very hard and fast to make nvda work with all brousers and togive us access to the progress of our downloads like webie does. I will keep on using webie until it no longer works at all. Nvda is updates 3 times per year so why arethe developers not doing more in this area? Maybe nvda could develope it's own brouser that would do what webie does there is no other brouser designed for the blind they are all designed by and for the sighted. Brian Sackrider
On 12/21/2016 6:34 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
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Gene
I can't discuss facebook
because I don't use it. but when I look at web sites in general, I don't
move through lots of image indications that I hear. Whether any of that is
because of browser settings I use, I can't be sure. Others may wich to
comment.
I thought you knew how to move in such ways as by
headings. But I wasn't sure if you were talking about actual items you see
if you just let a page read or about something else. It appears you are
talking about names of files such as filename.gif.
We'll see what others say. I generally don't see such things. Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 7:32 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] trying to find my gmail account in the webbie
browser I'm talking about extra graphics and pictures. I'm not talking about things like H for headings. I know how to navigate by headings. I once listened to a tutorial where the guy was demonstrating the facebook site with webbie. It worked well with webbie but not with a browser like internet explorer.
Rosemarie
From:
nvda@nvda.groups.io
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
you have said this before and I have said before that that is not the case. it is possible that we are talking about different things but I see no more clutter when using a standard browser. If you want to take a specific web page and explain what you see using a different browser that you don't see in Webbie, we can then discuss that page and we can look at it with our browsers of choice. It isn't clear to me what clutter you are describing nor is it clear to me whether this is clutter that can easily be skipped by screen-reader commands such as move to next heading or skip blocks of links.
In addition, I know and am using a standard screen-reader browsing interface which makes me able to use more pages well because I can switch easily to different browsers if a page doesn't work well in a given browser. Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: Rosemarie Chavarria Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 6:06 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] trying to find my gmail account in the webbie browser
Hi, Brian,
The one thing I like about the webbie browser is that it takes out all the extra clutter that you see on a lot of sites. I'll probably use it mainly for downloading songs from my friend's oldies site. I do like that you can hear the percentages. It's just like how internet explorer 8 used to be.
Rosemarie
From:
nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf
Of brian
The reason that some of us use webie isthat it was designed for the blind and if anyone canshow me a brouser that does what I like webiefor then I will concitering changing my brouser but nvda still needs to have full support on other brousers and it is very important to know if your downloads are progressing or not because your internet may drop out on you and you may not know it if you can't heard the progress of your downloads. You should not need any add ons to your brouser to do this nvda should be able to do this. If it's true that webie will no longer work very soon then the developers should be working very hard and fast to make nvda work with all brousers and togive us access to the progress of our downloads like webie does. I will keep on using webie until it no longer works at all. Nvda is updates 3 times per year so why arethe developers not doing more in this area? Maybe nvda could develope it's own brouser that would do what webie does there is no other brouser designed for the blind they are all designed by and for the sighted. Brian Sackrider
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Rosemarie Chavarria
Hi, Arleen,
I think Alasdair King started developing it in 2001. I didn't have a computer until 2003 when I got the old windows 98 computer from Computers for the Blind in Texas.
Rosemarie
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 4:08 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] trying to find my gmail account in the webbie browser
Oh yeah? Like I said. I never heard of it!
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Hi, Brian,
The one thing I like about the webbie browser is that it takes out all the extra clutter that you see on a lot of sites. I'll probably use it mainly for downloading songs from my friend's oldies site. I do like that you can hear the percentages. It's just like how internet explorer 8 used to be.
Rosemarie
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of brian
The reason that some of us use webie isthat it was designed for the blind and if anyone canshow me a brouser that does what I like webiefor then I will concitering changing my brouser but nvda still needs to have full support on other brousers and it is very important to know if your downloads are progressing or not because your internet may drop out on you and you may not know it if you can't heard the progress of your downloads. You should not need any add ons to your brouser to do this nvda should be able to do this. If it's true that webie will no longer work very soon then the developers should be working very hard and fast to make nvda work with all brousers and togive us access to the progress of our downloads like webie does. I will keep on using webie until it no longer works at all. Nvda is updates 3 times per year so why arethe developers not doing more in this area? Maybe nvda could develope it's own brouser that would do what webie does there is no other brouser designed for the blind they are all designed by and for the sighted. Brian Sackrider
On 12/21/2016 6:34 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
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Rosemarie Chavarria
I'm talking about extra graphics and pictures. I'm not talking about things like H for headings. I know how to navigate by headings. I once listened to a tutorial where the guy was demonstrating the facebook site with webbie. It worked well with webbie but not with a browser like internet explorer.
Rosemarie
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 4:44 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] trying to find my gmail account in the webbie browser
you have said this before and I have said before that that is not the case. it is possible that we are talking about different things but I see no more clutter when using a standard browser. If you want to take a specific web page and explain what you see using a different browser that you don't see in Webbie, we can then discuss that page and we can look at it with our browsers of choice. It isn't clear to me what clutter you are describing nor is it clear to me whether this is clutter that can easily be skipped by screen-reader commands such as move to next heading or skip blocks of links.
In addition, I know and am using a standard screen-reader browsing interface which makes me able to use more pages well because I can switch easily to different browsers if a page doesn't work well in a given browser. Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: Rosemarie Chavarria Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 6:06 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] trying to find my gmail account in the webbie browser
Hi, Brian,
The one thing I like about the webbie browser is that it takes out all the extra clutter that you see on a lot of sites. I'll probably use it mainly for downloading songs from my friend's oldies site. I do like that you can hear the percentages. It's just like how internet explorer 8 used to be.
Rosemarie
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of brian
The reason that some of us use webie isthat it was designed for the blind and if anyone canshow me a brouser that does what I like webiefor then I will concitering changing my brouser but nvda still needs to have full support on other brousers and it is very important to know if your downloads are progressing or not because your internet may drop out on you and you may not know it if you can't heard the progress of your downloads. You should not need any add ons to your brouser to do this nvda should be able to do this. If it's true that webie will no longer work very soon then the developers should be working very hard and fast to make nvda work with all brousers and togive us access to the progress of our downloads like webie does. I will keep on using webie until it no longer works at all. Nvda is updates 3 times per year so why arethe developers not doing more in this area? Maybe nvda could develope it's own brouser that would do what webie does there is no other brouser designed for the blind they are all designed by and for the sighted. Brian Sackrider
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Gene
I just tested. I downloaded part of a large
file using NVDA and Firefox. When I was in the download window, the
progress bar was followed. I had NVDA set to beep as the progress bar
changed and it did on an ongoing basis as the bar changed. While I can't
test this, I expect that if you are in the download window of Internet Explorer,
a progress bar will be displayed that your screen-reader can follow but someone
else will have to verify that.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 6:22 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] trying to find my gmail account in the webbie
browser When you download a file in IE11, are you in the
actual download window? In other browsers such as Firefox and Chrome, you
must open the download window to see the progress of the download. If you
have to open the download window in IE, doing so would likely allow the progress
bar to be read. There may not be a progress bar being displayed as you are
currently downloading. I don't know the command, if there is one, to open
the download window in IE11. I almost never use Internet Explorer and I've
never upgraded from a quite old version.
Also, adding to comments Brian, the other Brian
made, there isn't that much to learn about using Firefox or Chrome.
Browsing on web pages, that is using commands like h for headings, etc. is
identical. Those are browser commands. There isn't that much to
learn about the new interface. And Firefox, I don't use Chrome enough
to comment on this feature, has a very convenient ssearch book marks feature
that if IE has it, is not made plain where it is to the user. I don't
think there is such a feature. With the Firefox feature, you can search
all your book marks using this feature, however they are organized. There
is a search history feature as well.
Using Chrome and Firefox, you are better protected
against malware which may be distributed by malicious Flash content. Both
Chrome and Firefox are far more restrictive about what Flash content they allow
to run than Internet Explorer. This didn't used to be the case but such
browsers are continuing to be developed and Internet Explorer hasn't been
developed for probably two years, if not more. It is useable now but
archaic.
I don't like the Chrome interface though it is
quite accessible now. I find the Firefox interface to be more convenient
for a blind user. But it would be a good idea to stop using Internet
Explorer as a main browser. At times, I find a site that works well with
Internet Explorer and not with Chrome or Firefox. I keep Internet Explorer
in mind as a reserve for such uncommon occasions. But in general, it
is better to use something else that isn't growing increasingly archaic.
I wouldn't be surprised if Microsoft stops
providing security updates for Internet explorer sometime around 2019.
maybe even at some point in 2018.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: brian
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 5:17 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] trying to find my gmail account in the webbie
browser I do use webie but there are sites that
webie has problems with but I use it for downloading because I can hear the
percentages but ie 11 nvda does not read the percentages so you don't know if
your downloads are progressing or not. I have my gmail in my thunderbird
and webie as my default brouser this works just fine. Brian Sackrider On 12/21/2016 2:50 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria
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I must admit I do still use ie for certain admin things like if I want to upgrade things for say flash etc on another computer then yeah I run its brouser and do it that way.
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Ofcause I could get it myself with firefox but windows by default hates me running programs on any external media which means I will need to store them on a temperary location in the computer to run them. While I see the security implications of this I guess if I added my username then anything would probably run but still.
On 22/12/2016 11:02 a.m., Brian Vogel wrote:
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Gene wrote, regarding Microsoft and Internet Explorer:
I wouldn't be surprised if Microsoft stops providing security updates for Internet explorer sometime around 2019. maybe even at some point in 2018. I keep trying to figure out how, and when, they're finally going to put the nails in the coffin of IE. They complicated matters immensely by including IE as part of Windows 10 when they already knew it was an orphan, but thus obligating themselves to at least a number of years of security patches. One thing's for sure, they will eventually end support entirely, and that time isn't all that far off. Life is the art of drawing sufficient conclusions from insufficient premises. ~ Samuel Butler, 1835-1902
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Gene
you have said this before and I have said before
that that is not the case. it is possible that we are talking about
different things but I see no more clutter when using a standard browser.
If you want to take a specific web page and explain what you see using a
different browser that you don't see in Webbie, we can then discuss that page
and we can look at it with our browsers of choice. It isn't clear to me
what clutter you are describing nor is it clear to me whether this is clutter
that can easily be skipped by screen-reader commands such as move to next
heading or skip blocks of links.
In addition, I know and am using a standard
screen-reader browsing interface which makes me able to use more pages well
because I can switch easily to different browsers if a page doesn't work well in
a given browser. Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 6:06 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] trying to find my gmail account in the webbie
browser Hi, Brian,
The one thing I like about the webbie browser is that it takes out all the extra clutter that you see on a lot of sites. I'll probably use it mainly for downloading songs from my friend's oldies site. I do like that you can hear the percentages. It's just like how internet explorer 8 used to be.
Rosemarie
From:
nvda@nvda.groups.io
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of brian
The reason that some of us use webie isthat it was designed for the blind and if anyone canshow me a brouser that does what I like webiefor then I will concitering changing my brouser but nvda still needs to have full support on other brousers and it is very important to know if your downloads are progressing or not because your internet may drop out on you and you may not know it if you can't heard the progress of your downloads. You should not need any add ons to your brouser to do this nvda should be able to do this. If it's true that webie will no longer work very soon then the developers should be working very hard and fast to make nvda work with all brousers and togive us access to the progress of our downloads like webie does. I will keep on using webie until it no longer works at all. Nvda is updates 3 times per year so why arethe developers not doing more in this area? Maybe nvda could develope it's own brouser that would do what webie does there is no other brouser designed for the blind they are all designed by and for the sighted. Brian Sackrider
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Brian, Contrary to your assertion,"if someone can make another brouser like that we might change but not until" it's time you figured out that you, like all others, actually have to deal with technological advances (and, sometimes, from a practical standpoint, they're more like regressions) just like the rest of us. You can easily follow downloads progress, including with NVDA, and particularly with the Golden Cursor add-on installed, using the download manager of virtually any web browser you can name. I just tried downloading a massive PDF file I have on my Google drive and I can down-arrow on to the download status and have it read precisely where the download is and the total amount to be downloaded under Chrome. If I wish to keep monitoring I have to up arrow/down arrow to get the status read again. I almost never monitor download status for large files because I can check in download manager (CTRL+J in most web browsers) after the fact to see if the file did succeed in downloading or that it failed. As to your fiat that "you should not need any add-ons to do this" well, good luck with that. Developers are going to do what they wish to do and what's most efficient for them. You are one of many, many customers. It is actually up to you to figure out, or to ask others, how something you might want to do can be done, not demand that people who don't even know you do things in the way you prefer. A big attitude adjustment, and acceptance of how the real world works, appears to be in order here. Shooting me because I'm the messenger telling you something that's true, but that you don't want to hear, isn't helping you or anyone else, either.
-- Life is the art of drawing sufficient conclusions from insufficient premises. ~ Samuel Butler, 1835-1902
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Rosemarie Chavarria
Hi, Ron,
I guess some people are really stressed out about Christmas. I'm not. It's my favorite time of the year. I also like to play with odd software from time to time.
Rosemarie
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ron Canazzi
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 4:29 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] trying to find my gmail account in the webbie browser
OK, I was just asking. Some people must be awfully stressed out over Christmas. I sometimes like to play around with odd or unique software. '
On 12/21/2016 6:28 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
-- They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes. They ask: "How Happy are You?" I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
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Re: trying to find my gmail account in the webbie browser
Gene
You haven't needed a browser built for blind people
for good Internet access since about 2000 if you had a good screen-reader.
Webbie was an important browser for quite some time but not because it was
designed for blind users. It was important because many blind people
didn't have good screen-readers. Before System Access and NVDA, many blind
people benefitted from using Webbie because it was designed to be useable with
minimal screen-readers such as Thunder or the old minimal Narrator. I am
quite sure that Internet Explorer can be made to display a progress bar during
downloads. I'm also quite sure Firefox and Chrome can, as well.
I don't want to hear a progress bar during
downloads so I don't have NVDA set to read them. When I want to check the
download, I look at the information in the download window relating to my
file. I am told the estimated time remaining, the speed of the download,
and some other information. I use my computer for lots of things and,
while downloading, I don’t' stay in the download window. I check the
download now and then.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: brian
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 5:57 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] trying to find my gmail account in the webbie
browser The reason that some of us use webie
isthat it was designed for the blind and if anyone canshow me a brouser that
does what I like webiefor then I will concitering changing my brouser but nvda
still needs to have full support on other brousers and it is very important to
know if your downloads are progressing or not because your internet may drop out
on you and you may not know it if you can't heard the progress of your
downloads. You should not need any add ons to your brouser to do this nvda
should be able to do this. If it's true that webie will no longer work
very soon then the developers should be working very hard and fast to make nvda
work with all brousers and togive us access to the progress of our downloads
like webie does. I will keep on using webie until it no longer works at
all. Nvda is updates 3 times per year so why arethe developers not doing
more in this area? Maybe nvda could develope it's own brouser that would
do what webie does there is no other brouser designed for the blind they are all
designed by and for the sighted. Brian Sackrider On 12/21/2016 6:34 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
Brian Sackrider wrote:
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