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sea cleaner / just using to wipe drives

Richard Kuzma
 

It is working perfectly for that function.

Don’t intend to use it for anything else at this point.

 


Re: sea cleaner is accessible / thanks

 

Well it cleans enough there are enhancers I have seen that can do more but they slow things down, as well as that piriform do not have any malware bar the google stuff and to be honest thats barely malware, as google has most of its services for free.
Its gotten slightly less accessible than it used to be but its still not that bad.
I mostly use its quick run options and no extra monitoring.

On 21/11/2016 9:35 a.m., Георги Ламбов wrote:
Hi!

CCleaner was always accessible with screen readers! I use this program
until about 5 years and I'm very glad with it. I'm not going to change
it although there are many cleaning programs.

Georgi
На 20.11.2016 г. в 20:54 ч., Brian Vogel написа:

CCleaner <https://www.piriform.com/ccleaner/download/standard>;, a
product of Piriform, was known as "Crap Cleaner" way back when at the
time it was first released. It got changed to CCleaner when it became
a commercial product.

Crap Cleaner is an accurate description of its overall function,
though there are other specific ones such as the drive wiper that are
part of it. The main idea is that it goes through your system looking
for files that it knows often get left behind when programs are
installed/uninstalled, browser cache, etc., and removes them to free
up space.

I hasten to add that it has a Registry Cleaner function that I don't
suggest that anyone use. I used to use it and it never harmed any
machine I used it on, but as I've entered into more and more depth
regarding the registry I have become convinced that the camp that says
registry cleaners can unintentionally introduce many more problems
than they solve is correct. Just because it has the function is not a
good reason to use it.
--
*/Brian/*

*/Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.
If you’re alive, it isn’t./*

//~ Lauren Bacall



Re: sea cleaner is accessible / thanks

Георги Ламбов <obichamlegiona@...>
 

   Hi!

CCleaner was always accessible with screen readers! I use this program until about 5 years and I'm very glad with it. I'm not going to change it although there are many cleaning programs.

Georgi
На 20.11.2016 г. в 20:54 ч., Brian Vogel написа:

CCleaner, a product of Piriform, was known as "Crap Cleaner" way back when at the time it was first released.  It got changed to CCleaner when it became a commercial product.

Crap Cleaner is an accurate description of its overall function, though there are other specific ones such as the drive wiper that are part of it.  The main idea is that it goes through your system looking for files that it knows often get left behind when programs are installed/uninstalled, browser cache, etc., and removes them to free up space.

I hasten to add that it has a Registry Cleaner function that I don't suggest that anyone use.  I used to use it and it never harmed any machine I used it on, but as I've entered into more and more depth regarding the registry I have become convinced that the camp that says registry cleaners can unintentionally introduce many more problems than they solve is correct.  Just because it has the function is not a good reason to use it.
--
Brian

Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.  If you’re alive, it isn’t.

    ~ Lauren Bacall

    




Re: accessible securly disk wiper

Travis Siegel <tsiegel@...>
 

Paragon used to make a disk wiping softeware that was accessible in the windows XP days.  They still have the disk wiping, but it's rolled in with their disk programs (either their partition program or their disk copy program).  Neither one of these programs are 100 percent accessible, but they are likely accessible enough to do the job.  I have both of these programs,, and have used both for various things, though I've not (yet) used either one for wiping a disk, the rest of the utilities are accessible (albeit with some difficulty) with the demo of jaws, though not so much with NVDA which is why I'd been asking about making programs accessible using NVDA scripting.  I have yet to find any way to make an inaccessible program accessible, though I have found multiple ways to make accessible programs inaccessible with NVDA scripting. :)

But anyway, I know this isn't exactly a glowing review of the above programs, but with some effort, they can be made to do what you want, but do be patient.



On 11/20/2016 11:55 AM, Richard Kuzma via Groups.Io wrote:

Good morning,

Does anyone know of any decent accessible disk wiping software?

Thanks

Rich





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Re: NVDA and repeating clickible

Gene
 

Evidently, clickable is now controllable as indicated in the below message.  It didn't used to be but if this change has been made, then a good deal of my last message is no longer relevant.  I do think that clickable is better left on a lot of the time but there are times when it is important to be able to turn it off.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Jacques
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 12:21 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and repeating clickible

Hi, this is a setting that can be toggled on or off. Document settings
with NVDA+ctrl+d, option is called "Clickable" second last option in
this dialogue.

HTH


Jacques

On Sunday, 20 November 2016 20:11, William Sallander wrote:
> Hello everyone:
>
>
> I've been using NVDA along with Google Chrome and Firefox. Everything
> seems to work just fine except for one annoying issue.
>
> When I'm in browse mode, I will arrow down through the page and as I go
> through, NVDA keeps repeating the word "clickable". I'm pretty sure why
> it might do it, but I'm wondering if there is a way to tone it down.
>
> I'd like to see if this can be fixed because it takes a while to find
> out what link I'm currently on and slows me down some what.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
>
>
>
>
>



Re: NVDA and repeating clickible

Gene
 

I don't think the clickable announcement can be turned off.  I would submit that this should be able to be turned off, just as other notifications can be in document formatting.  Recently, I was taking a quiz and the answers were clickable items, and not links.  It was maddening to hear item after item with clickable repeated time after time after time.  Since most words in the quiz responses were clickable, clickable was spoken before almost every word in the responses.  While I don't think clickable should be turned off most of the time, we should have the choice to silence it when desired. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 12:11 PM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and repeating clickible

Hello everyone:


I've been using NVDA along with Google Chrome and Firefox. Everything
seems to work just fine except for one annoying issue.

When I'm in browse mode, I will arrow down through the page and as I go
through, NVDA keeps repeating the word "clickable". I'm pretty sure why
it might do it, but I'm wondering if there is a way to tone it down.

I'd like to see if this can be fixed because it takes a while to find
out what link I'm currently on and slows me down some what.

Any suggestions?





Re: sea cleaner is accessible / thanks

 

CCleaner, a product of Piriform, was known as "Crap Cleaner" way back when at the time it was first released.  It got changed to CCleaner when it became a commercial product.

Crap Cleaner is an accurate description of its overall function, though there are other specific ones such as the drive wiper that are part of it.  The main idea is that it goes through your system looking for files that it knows often get left behind when programs are installed/uninstalled, browser cache, etc., and removes them to free up space.

I hasten to add that it has a Registry Cleaner function that I don't suggest that anyone use.  I used to use it and it never harmed any machine I used it on, but as I've entered into more and more depth regarding the registry I have become convinced that the camp that says registry cleaners can unintentionally introduce many more problems than they solve is correct.  Just because it has the function is not a good reason to use it.
--
Brian

Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.  If you’re alive, it isn’t.

    ~ Lauren Bacall

    



Re: NVDA and repeating clickible

Dejan Ristic
 

I also encounter it, but if I want to skip the repetition, I press NVDA plus tab to check the focus of an element I am on, and then I continue working so as to prevent it from slowing me down. That's how I get alogn with it, and, if I want to skip it completely (considering the fact that I am familiar with a web-page), I turn the option off, so that the repetition disappears.

On 11/20/2016 7:11 PM, William Sallander wrote:
Hello everyone:


I've been using NVDA along with Google Chrome and Firefox. Everything seems to work just fine except for one annoying issue.

When I'm in browse mode, I will arrow down through the page and as I go through, NVDA keeps repeating the word "clickable". I'm pretty sure why it might do it, but I'm wondering if there is a way to tone it down.

I'd like to see if this can be fixed because it takes a while to find out what link I'm currently on and slows me down some what.

Any suggestions?





Re: sea cleaner is accessible / thanks

Brennen Kinch
 

Remind me I forgot what is C cleaner

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 20, 2016, at 1:09 PM, Richard Kuzma via Groups.Io <rmkuzma@...> wrote:

Very nicely done,

Forgot about this utility completely,

Downloaded and installed it and it is one hundred accessible with nvda so far.

One side note, on the install screen tab around and uncheck install google chrome as your default browser if you don’t want it.

Thanks again

Rich


Re: NVDA and repeating clickible

William Sallander <wsallander@...>
 

Works perfect.

Thanks for the help.

On 11/20/2016 1:21 PM, Jacques wrote:
Hi, this is a setting that can be toggled on or off. Document settings with NVDA+ctrl+d, option is called "Clickable" second last option in this dialogue.

HTH


Jacques

On Sunday, 20 November 2016 20:11, William Sallander wrote:
Hello everyone:


I've been using NVDA along with Google Chrome and Firefox. Everything
seems to work just fine except for one annoying issue.

When I'm in browse mode, I will arrow down through the page and as I go
through, NVDA keeps repeating the word "clickable". I'm pretty sure why
it might do it, but I'm wondering if there is a way to tone it down.

I'd like to see if this can be fixed because it takes a while to find
out what link I'm currently on and slows me down some what.

Any suggestions?






Re: NVDA and repeating clickible

Jacques <lists4js@...>
 

Hi, this is a setting that can be toggled on or off. Document settings with NVDA+ctrl+d, option is called "Clickable" second last option in this dialogue.

HTH


Jacques

On Sunday, 20 November 2016 20:11, William Sallander wrote:
Hello everyone:


I've been using NVDA along with Google Chrome and Firefox. Everything
seems to work just fine except for one annoying issue.

When I'm in browse mode, I will arrow down through the page and as I go
through, NVDA keeps repeating the word "clickable". I'm pretty sure why
it might do it, but I'm wondering if there is a way to tone it down.

I'd like to see if this can be fixed because it takes a while to find
out what link I'm currently on and slows me down some what.

Any suggestions?





NVDA and repeating clickible

William Sallander <wsallander@...>
 

Hello everyone:


I've been using NVDA along with Google Chrome and Firefox. Everything seems to work just fine except for one annoying issue.

When I'm in browse mode, I will arrow down through the page and as I go through, NVDA keeps repeating the word "clickable". I'm pretty sure why it might do it, but I'm wondering if there is a way to tone it down.

I'd like to see if this can be fixed because it takes a while to find out what link I'm currently on and slows me down some what.

Any suggestions?


sea cleaner is accessible / thanks

Richard Kuzma
 

Very nicely done,

Forgot about this utility completely,

Downloaded and installed it and it is one hundred accessible with nvda so far.

One side note, on the install screen tab around and uncheck install google chrome as your default browser if you don’t want it.

Thanks again

Rich


Re: accessible securly disk wiper

 

Rich, with the transition to universal apps and the like, I never know how accessible any given program might be to someone in the abstract.

You could certainly try out CCleaner Standard Free to see if it works for you.  Under the Tools Pane is the Drive Wiper tool.  Once you've selected that you have a dialog that lets you choose:

  • Free Space on a drive or the entire drive, contents and all
  • The number of overwrite passes:  1, 3, 7, or 35  (each being more secure and adding time to the process - 35 takes forever)
  • And a series of checkboxes for the drive or drives you wish to select on which the wipe action will be performed


--
Brian

Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.  If you’re alive, it isn’t.

    ~ Lauren Bacall

    



accessible securly disk wiper

Richard Kuzma
 

Good morning,

Does anyone know of any decent accessible disk wiping software?

Thanks

Rich


Re: mouse movement

 

I will preface this with:  I know nothing about the Golden Cursor add-on and what follows is not intended as any sort of comment about its utility.

Don't forget that NVDA has what I think is a major improvement over other screen readers in its mouse tracking function.  Once you develop some slight skill in using the mouse to "scan" the page, even without being able to see exactly where the mouse is, you can get a very good "quick and dirty" knowledge of what is actually on that page, particularly in regard to controls and general content.  I have tried to teach my clients to not "be afraid of the mouse" when used for this purpose and to be willing to actually use it for left and right click (which is easy to do if you keep it in a caddy so it can't move across the surface on which it rests).  I don't often "succeed" (for lack of a better term) as much with an actual mouse as I do with a mouse pad, because it's a simple matter to mask the mouse pad with a piece of heavy cardboard for when you don't want to be activating it accidentally while still having full and easy access to the actual left and right mouse buttons.

I would imagine, based on the description of Golden Cursor, that there could be a powerful wedding between its ability to save a specific location for later "snapping to" and NVDA's mouse tracking to allow you to do a quick "fly over" of a page to find those locations you might want to use with Golden Cursor.

If I'm wrong about this I'm sure someone will set me straight as to how, and I'm more than willing to hear that.  This is conjecture based on very little knowledge of Golden Cursor.
--
Brian

Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.  If you’re alive, it isn’t.

    ~ Lauren Bacall

    



Re: third party rss readers

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

I've not tried it, but there is one in the Webbie suite I think.
Can anyone tell me what the difference is between an rss reader and a podcast downloader, as many of those use rss, and store the files offline. The only difference is what the file actually is, audio html or whatever, surely?
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Christopher Bartlett" <themusicalbrewer@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 12:47 PM
Subject: [nvda] third party rss readers


Has anyone found a desktop rss reader that works well with NVDA? I'm
currently using goread.io, which is a distinctly dissatisfactory service.



--
Christopher Bartlett


Re: Anti Virus

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

Most anti viruses will scan anything you intend to save to the system. I've noted that msse can do this, but I think most are intelligent enough to check what file type it is first.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "enes sarıbaş" <enes.saribas@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 12:17 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Anti Virus


hi,

I actually meant choosing the save option in thunderbird. This option
does not execute the attachment


On 11/20/2016 1:01 AM, Gene wrote:
Opening an attachment often automatically causes it to be executed.
Gene

*From:* enes sarıbaş <mailto:enes.saribas@gmail.com>
*Sent:* Saturday, November 19, 2016 2:45 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Anti Virus

hi gene,

opening the attachment isn't a problem. Executing the file is. I
recieved a spam mail that contained a malicious javascript enclosed in
a zip file. My antivirus, avira, missed it. When I uploaded it to
virustotal, I was the first one to upload it and only 2 antiviruses
caught it.


On 11/19/2016 9:03 PM, Gene wrote:
No matter how careful you are, you can still be infected, even by
going to reputable sites if those sites are hacked or if the
advertising on those sites is hacked. Yes, people should follow good
safety procedures. but that does not minimize the need or usefulness
of good antimalware programs.
And no matter how careful you are, what about the moment of
inattention. I'm very careful about not opening attachments. but
even so, there was one time in perhaps fifteen years or longer, that
I wasn't really thinking much about what I was doing and opened an
attachment that came from a message that looked as though it was from
someone I knew. If I had been paying proper attention, I wouldn't
have done so but the point is that unless you are sure that you will
always be paying proper attention from now until you stop using
computers, there is always a small or very small chance for error.
I've seen techs or techies minimize the importance of antimalware
programs. Frankly, I consider this to be the overconfidence of
knowledge. I believe that safety is the lesson of knowledge and
experience.
Genee
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Shaun Everiss <mailto:sm.everiss@gmail.com>
*Sent:* Saturday, November 19, 2016 11:52 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Anti Virus

I agree, the first point of security should be your head.
Next I'd use something like firefox with better privacy for flash
cookies, ublock for adds, and noscript for scripts.
That way if you click malware it may not run.
To be honest I have been tempted to get more passive protection that
gets stuff before it handles things.



On 20/11/2016 6:44 a.m., Brian Vogel wrote:
I have seen virtually any antivirus or security suite you can name
either praised to the high heavens or called almost completely
useless. It really depends on who's doing the reviewing and the
metrics they're using.

As has been said here, and elsewhere, antivirus programs are not
and should not be considered your first line of defense against
infection. Your own browsing habits play a far, far greater role in
that. Good browsing hygiene will keep you quite safe, if not 100% so.

If you have not been infected nor had whatever antivirus or
security program you've been using report anything being quarantined
in a very long time you can be reasonably certain that your browsing
habits are OK. If you're constantly infected or have things
quarantined without actually having been infected it would be very
wise to start looking at precisely when, how, and why this is
happening. Most infections are the direct result of user action, not
some backdoor entry.

Windows Defender has proven more than adequate for more users on
more machines than I can count at this point in my career. Nothing
is perfect, some competitors may be better, but Windows Defender is
not even close to "junk".

This thread entitled, Windows Defender as an integral part of
Windows 10 (
http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/632487/windows-defender-as-integral-part-of-windows-10/
) , which just started yesterday on bleepingcomputer.com's Windows 10
Support Forum, is worth reading [disclaimer: I've got two posts in
that thread so far, but that's not why I think it's worth looking at].
--
*Brian*

*Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is
complete. If you’re alive, it isn’t.*

~ Lauren Bacall


Re: where can i find free synthesizer for nvda that can read arabic?

Rui Fontes
 

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-----Mensagem Original-----
De: Amir Din
Data: 20 de novembro de 2016 09:06
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: [nvda] where can i find free synthesizer for nvda that can read arabic?

hi,
i know that vocalizer and acapella has support for arabic reading in nvda, but is there free alternative? i cannot buy those two because i cannot pay them because it requires paypal and i didn't have it. i heard that the mbrola project has support for arabic synthesizer and since mbrola can be used with espeak, i thought i can use it with nvda, but it didn't work because arabic doesn't have pronounciation file that espeak needs in order to translate from mbrola to espeak. espeak however, can say the lettre but cannot say the word in arabic. so, any alternative synthesizer that can be used, and it's free? to read arabic?

amir.
http://twitter.com/amir442


Re: third party rss readers

 

try accessible RSS. the folks who make the webbie web browser