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Re: Unified English Braille Table Improvement

Jason White
 

Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com> wrote:
It'll land as part of 2016.4. The latest master snapshots do contain UEB improvements.

More generally regarding translation tables, have various Unicode characters
such as list bullets, dashes, etc., been defined so they'll be displayed
reasonably, rather than as "\x" followed by a hexadecimal number?

I know this is really a liblouis responsibility rather than an NVDA one.


Re: Unified English Braille Table Improvement

 

Hi,
It'll land as part of 2016.4. The latest master snapshots do contain UEB improvements.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sharni-Lee Ward
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2016 4:23 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Unified English Braille Table Improvement

Hello,


Earlier this year I requested certain improvements to the Unified English Braille table in NVDA,which showed some inconsistencies to me when I was reading with my Braille Display. Joseph made a master build which I used for a little while, but it's now very outdated and there was also an error which caused NVDA and my entire computer to freeze while I was writing. I am hoping to make use of my Braille Display again in the future, but I need an up-to-date master version with the Braille Table improvements I mentioned at first, plus any others that may have been implemented in such builds since I first brought this up back in March.


If I could be pointed to the appropriate build, I would sincerely appreciate it. I have had eleven years to get used to UEB and now I no longer feel comfortable with any other system, but some characters display very strangely in current NVDA and it's very jarring when reading.


Unified English Braille Table Improvement

Sharni-Lee Ward
 

Hello,


Earlier this year I requested certain improvements to the Unified
English Braille table in NVDA,which showed some inconsistencies to me
when I was reading with my Braille Display. Joseph made a master build
which I used for a little while, but it's now very outdated and there
was also an error which caused NVDA and my entire computer to freeze
while I was writing. I am hoping to make use of my Braille Display again
in the future, but I need an up-to-date master version with the Braille
Table improvements I mentioned at first, plus any others that may have
been implemented in such builds since I first brought this up back in March.


If I could be pointed to the appropriate build, I would sincerely
appreciate it. I have had eleven years to get used to UEB and now I no
longer feel comfortable with any other system, but some characters
display very strangely in current NVDA and it's very jarring when reading.


Re: very basic configuration

Travis Siegel <tsiegel@...>
 

The functionality is trivial.  Getting it to act as a plugin would probably take more code than the reading would. :)  At the moment, I don't know how to make things plugins for web browsing or otherwise, but I could look into it.  It can't be impossibly difficult, or folks wouldn't be writing plugins.  Would you want it for web browsing, or something else? I'm thinking the simplest thing to do would be to make it a windows add-on, so it would show up in any program that uses windows standard controls (you know, file, edit, view, ...).Perhaps add it to the view menu or something similar.  I'll do some digging and see how difficult this would be to implement.



On 11/10/2016 4:24 PM, Gene New Zealand wrote:

Hi


I know what you are talking about i used to use something like that that used microsoft agent 2.0 I think it was.


I would highlight the stuff i wanted read out then hit a key combo then it was read out. It was more for written content webpages etc


Out of curiosity would it be hard to make a add on that could do that?


My wife works with people with reading difficulties and as a tool she uses NVDA with a few of them. They are not visually impaired or blind.


Part of the feedback was slowing down the voice changing it etc At present a few of them changed what can be read under the mouse.


Others she uses magnification with speech.


Gene nz



On 11/11/2016 10:06 AM, Travis Siegel wrote:

Apparently, this functionality isn't built into windows anymore.  I know you used to be able to highlight text, then select options, and have it read outloud if you wanted it.  My wife says she uses a browser plugin to make this happen now, so perhaps you could find one for librioffice as well, that does the same thing.  If you can't find anything, let me know, it would be trivial to write a program that would allow you to paste text in and have it read outloud.  (probably about 10 or 20 lines of code using powerbasic).



On 11/10/2016 2:25 PM, Gene New Zealand wrote:

Hi


You might be able to try the following.


You could always turn mouse tracking off then back on if you need it.


To turn off mouse tracking on a desktop pc use the nvda key + the letter M



You should hear NVDA say if it is on or off. for example mouse tracking on.


this will read what is under the mouse.


you could always change the text resolution as well.

It can be set to character, word, line and paragraph.


these settings can be found under the mouse settings section in NVDA. to quickly get there with a desktop use the nvda key + ctrl key + the letter m


I know there might be some other settings to turn off, but would have to check. These i think for the reporting of menus etc i would have to check.


You could also turn off punctuation etc i guess it depends what you want to do.

I am not aware of a shortcut key to toggle between characters and paragraphs. Maybe this might be able to be done if a ticket is put in.


Gene nz



On 10/11/2016 11:48 PM, David Dand wrote:
Hello, 

I am trying out NVDA. I am not disabled (apart from some dyslexia). I want to use NVDA to read back paragraphs or lines in Libre Office so I can do an audio check as I sometimes read words in the way 'I want to see them'. All the system wide information given as I move my cursor/mouse is driving me crazy. Is there a way I can have a simple configuration that allows me to point and click to read a paragraph/line and hear nothing nothing else?

Thanks in advance for your help







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Re: very basic configuration

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi


Maybe some of the apps off this page might help you.

The link to this page is http://read-clipboard.software.informer.com/



Try the Balabolka one first it might suit your needs.


Hope the above helps.


Gene nz


On 10/11/2016 11:48 PM, David Dand wrote:
Hello, 

I am trying out NVDA. I am not disabled (apart from some dyslexia). I want to use NVDA to read back paragraphs or lines in Libre Office so I can do an audio check as I sometimes read words in the way 'I want to see them'. All the system wide information given as I move my cursor/mouse is driving me crazy. Is there a way I can have a simple configuration that allows me to point and click to read a paragraph/line and hear nothing nothing else?

Thanks in advance for your help




Re: very basic configuration

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Just had a check.


The closest to what he is after is this add on, but is more keyboard based.


it is under development and can be found at http://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/clipContentsDesigner.en.html

Actually i might try out this add on my self there has been times when i want to add more info to the clipboard instead of it been over written each time the other way.


Gene nz



On 11/11/2016 10:06 AM, Travis Siegel wrote:

Apparently, this functionality isn't built into windows anymore.  I know you used to be able to highlight text, then select options, and have it read outloud if you wanted it.  My wife says she uses a browser plugin to make this happen now, so perhaps you could find one for librioffice as well, that does the same thing.  If you can't find anything, let me know, it would be trivial to write a program that would allow you to paste text in and have it read outloud.  (probably about 10 or 20 lines of code using powerbasic).



On 11/10/2016 2:25 PM, Gene New Zealand wrote:

Hi


You might be able to try the following.


You could always turn mouse tracking off then back on if you need it.


To turn off mouse tracking on a desktop pc use the nvda key + the letter M



You should hear NVDA say if it is on or off. for example mouse tracking on.


this will read what is under the mouse.


you could always change the text resolution as well.

It can be set to character, word, line and paragraph.


these settings can be found under the mouse settings section in NVDA. to quickly get there with a desktop use the nvda key + ctrl key + the letter m


I know there might be some other settings to turn off, but would have to check. These i think for the reporting of menus etc i would have to check.


You could also turn off punctuation etc i guess it depends what you want to do.

I am not aware of a shortcut key to toggle between characters and paragraphs. Maybe this might be able to be done if a ticket is put in.


Gene nz



On 10/11/2016 11:48 PM, David Dand wrote:
Hello, 

I am trying out NVDA. I am not disabled (apart from some dyslexia). I want to use NVDA to read back paragraphs or lines in Libre Office so I can do an audio check as I sometimes read words in the way 'I want to see them'. All the system wide information given as I move my cursor/mouse is driving me crazy. Is there a way I can have a simple configuration that allows me to point and click to read a paragraph/line and hear nothing nothing else?

Thanks in advance for your help







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Re: very basic configuration

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi


I know what you are talking about i used to use something like that that used microsoft agent 2.0 I think it was.


I would highlight the stuff i wanted read out then hit a key combo then it was read out. It was more for written content webpages etc


Out of curiosity would it be hard to make a add on that could do that?


My wife works with people with reading difficulties and as a tool she uses NVDA with a few of them. They are not visually impaired or blind.


Part of the feedback was slowing down the voice changing it etc At present a few of them changed what can be read under the mouse.


Others she uses magnification with speech.


Gene nz



On 11/11/2016 10:06 AM, Travis Siegel wrote:

Apparently, this functionality isn't built into windows anymore.  I know you used to be able to highlight text, then select options, and have it read outloud if you wanted it.  My wife says she uses a browser plugin to make this happen now, so perhaps you could find one for librioffice as well, that does the same thing.  If you can't find anything, let me know, it would be trivial to write a program that would allow you to paste text in and have it read outloud.  (probably about 10 or 20 lines of code using powerbasic).



On 11/10/2016 2:25 PM, Gene New Zealand wrote:

Hi


You might be able to try the following.


You could always turn mouse tracking off then back on if you need it.


To turn off mouse tracking on a desktop pc use the nvda key + the letter M



You should hear NVDA say if it is on or off. for example mouse tracking on.


this will read what is under the mouse.


you could always change the text resolution as well.

It can be set to character, word, line and paragraph.


these settings can be found under the mouse settings section in NVDA. to quickly get there with a desktop use the nvda key + ctrl key + the letter m


I know there might be some other settings to turn off, but would have to check. These i think for the reporting of menus etc i would have to check.


You could also turn off punctuation etc i guess it depends what you want to do.

I am not aware of a shortcut key to toggle between characters and paragraphs. Maybe this might be able to be done if a ticket is put in.


Gene nz



On 10/11/2016 11:48 PM, David Dand wrote:
Hello, 

I am trying out NVDA. I am not disabled (apart from some dyslexia). I want to use NVDA to read back paragraphs or lines in Libre Office so I can do an audio check as I sometimes read words in the way 'I want to see them'. All the system wide information given as I move my cursor/mouse is driving me crazy. Is there a way I can have a simple configuration that allows me to point and click to read a paragraph/line and hear nothing nothing else?

Thanks in advance for your help







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Re: very basic configuration

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi


The only other things that comes to mind at the moment is


You might be able to select a paragraph at a time with the mouse as in highlighting it, then use the ctrl key + the letter C to copy it to the clipboard, then use the nvda key +the letter C to read it out.


Only thing is if there is 2 much content it will not read it out. it will say like 2 much content on the clipboard.


Shorter stuff it is ok.


I know you can do it with the mouse to select stuff but have not done it in years.


Out of curiosity is your back ground on say the office program you are using is it like a real white colour? or have you changed it to another colour like cream or like a creamy yellow?


  have you also tried magnification?


Gene nz


On 10/11/2016 11:48 PM, David Dand wrote:
Hello, 

I am trying out NVDA. I am not disabled (apart from some dyslexia). I want to use NVDA to read back paragraphs or lines in Libre Office so I can do an audio check as I sometimes read words in the way 'I want to see them'. All the system wide information given as I move my cursor/mouse is driving me crazy. Is there a way I can have a simple configuration that allows me to point and click to read a paragraph/line and hear nothing nothing else?

Thanks in advance for your help




Re: very basic configuration

Travis Siegel <tsiegel@...>
 

Apparently, this functionality isn't built into windows anymore.  I know you used to be able to highlight text, then select options, and have it read outloud if you wanted it.  My wife says she uses a browser plugin to make this happen now, so perhaps you could find one for librioffice as well, that does the same thing.  If you can't find anything, let me know, it would be trivial to write a program that would allow you to paste text in and have it read outloud.  (probably about 10 or 20 lines of code using powerbasic).



On 11/10/2016 2:25 PM, Gene New Zealand wrote:

Hi


You might be able to try the following.


You could always turn mouse tracking off then back on if you need it.


To turn off mouse tracking on a desktop pc use the nvda key + the letter M



You should hear NVDA say if it is on or off. for example mouse tracking on.


this will read what is under the mouse.


you could always change the text resolution as well.

It can be set to character, word, line and paragraph.


these settings can be found under the mouse settings section in NVDA. to quickly get there with a desktop use the nvda key + ctrl key + the letter m


I know there might be some other settings to turn off, but would have to check. These i think for the reporting of menus etc i would have to check.


You could also turn off punctuation etc i guess it depends what you want to do.

I am not aware of a shortcut key to toggle between characters and paragraphs. Maybe this might be able to be done if a ticket is put in.


Gene nz



On 10/11/2016 11:48 PM, David Dand wrote:
Hello, 

I am trying out NVDA. I am not disabled (apart from some dyslexia). I want to use NVDA to read back paragraphs or lines in Libre Office so I can do an audio check as I sometimes read words in the way 'I want to see them'. All the system wide information given as I move my cursor/mouse is driving me crazy. Is there a way I can have a simple configuration that allows me to point and click to read a paragraph/line and hear nothing nothing else?

Thanks in advance for your help







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Re: very basic configuration

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi


You might be able to try the following.


You could always turn mouse tracking off then back on if you need it.


To turn off mouse tracking on a desktop pc use the nvda key + the letter M



You should hear NVDA say if it is on or off. for example mouse tracking on.


this will read what is under the mouse.


you could always change the text resolution as well.

It can be set to character, word, line and paragraph.


these settings can be found under the mouse settings section in NVDA. to quickly get there with a desktop use the nvda key + ctrl key + the letter m


I know there might be some other settings to turn off, but would have to check. These i think for the reporting of menus etc i would have to check.


You could also turn off punctuation etc i guess it depends what you want to do.

I am not aware of a shortcut key to toggle between characters and paragraphs. Maybe this might be able to be done if a ticket is put in.


Gene nz



On 10/11/2016 11:48 PM, David Dand wrote:
Hello, 

I am trying out NVDA. I am not disabled (apart from some dyslexia). I want to use NVDA to read back paragraphs or lines in Libre Office so I can do an audio check as I sometimes read words in the way 'I want to see them'. All the system wide information given as I move my cursor/mouse is driving me crazy. Is there a way I can have a simple configuration that allows me to point and click to read a paragraph/line and hear nothing nothing else?

Thanks in advance for your help




Re: very basic configuration

Travis Siegel <tsiegel@...>
 

If you can see, (and it sounds like you can) then you don't need NVDA to perform this function for you.  You can simply highlight the text you want read, then select the menu option to have it read for you.  My wife does this all the time when she wants me to hear something on her machine, since she has a speech difficulty, large passages of text are hard for her to read, so she lets the computer do it for her.  I don't know what she does after highlighting the text, but it seems to work no matter what program she's in, so I'll have to ask her how she does it, but her machine doesn't have NVDA installed, though I think she uses narrator for the reading, but I could be mistaken on that point.  After she wakes up, I'll ask the details of how she does this, and post here for reference.



On 11/10/2016 8:16 AM, Gene wrote:
I'm not sure what you are hearing.  If you move with the arrow keys, you can read and you shouldn't hear whatever information you are hearing.  As a blind person, I don't know what happens when you move the mouse in this context because blind people use the arrow keys and some variations to move.  The following are standard movement commands used in edit standard edit fields.  Up arrow, up one line.  Down one arrow, down one line.
Right arrow, forward by one character.  Left arrow, back one character.
Control down arrow, down one paragraph.  Control up arrow, up one paragraph.  
Control home, top of document.  Control end, end of document.
If you want to move the mouse to were you are and if that solves the problem, you can use numpad insert numpad minus.  Hold numpad insert and press minus while doing so.  If more convenient, you can use the other insert.
 
You can also use whatever find command the word processor uses to search for text if that is the most efficient way to jump to something.
 
Gene 
----- Original Message -----
From: David Dand
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2016 4:48 AM
Subject: [nvda] very basic configuration

Hello, 

I am trying out NVDA. I am not disabled (apart from some dyslexia). I want to use NVDA to read back paragraphs or lines in Libre Office so I can do an audio check as I sometimes read words in the way 'I want to see them'. All the system wide information given as I move my cursor/mouse is driving me crazy. Is there a way I can have a simple configuration that allows me to point and click to read a paragraph/line and hear nothing nothing else?

Thanks in advance for your help






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Re: very basic configuration

Gene
 

I'm not sure what you are hearing.  If you move with the arrow keys, you can read and you shouldn't hear whatever information you are hearing.  As a blind person, I don't know what happens when you move the mouse in this context because blind people use the arrow keys and some variations to move.  The following are standard movement commands used in edit standard edit fields.  Up arrow, up one line.  Down one arrow, down one line.
Right arrow, forward by one character.  Left arrow, back one character.
Control down arrow, down one paragraph.  Control up arrow, up one paragraph.  
Control home, top of document.  Control end, end of document.
If you want to move the mouse to were you are and if that solves the problem, you can use numpad insert numpad minus.  Hold numpad insert and press minus while doing so.  If more convenient, you can use the other insert.
 
You can also use whatever find command the word processor uses to search for text if that is the most efficient way to jump to something.
 
Gene 

----- Original Message -----
From: David Dand
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2016 4:48 AM
Subject: [nvda] very basic configuration

Hello, 

I am trying out NVDA. I am not disabled (apart from some dyslexia). I want to use NVDA to read back paragraphs or lines in Libre Office so I can do an audio check as I sometimes read words in the way 'I want to see them'. All the system wide information given as I move my cursor/mouse is driving me crazy. Is there a way I can have a simple configuration that allows me to point and click to read a paragraph/line and hear nothing nothing else?

Thanks in advance for your help



Re: OT: Thunderbird closing itself when you press the escape key

Travis Siegel <tsiegel@...>
 

Hmm. Escape doesn't work for me at all. I need to use ctrl-f4 to close a message. Pressing escape does nothing.

I know this doesn't help, but it might offer hope anyhow.

On 11/9/2016 11:27 PM, Jacob Kruger wrote:
Has anyone else been having this happening relatively recently?


Think it's either due to a recent update, or, suppose possibly something else, but, when press escape key, to even just close a message that am reading in thunderbird, the main window closes as well.


This is with message pane turned off, so the messages open up in new/separate windows, and, haven't recently installed any new/additional add-ons for thunderbird, but, it's really rather irritiating when you then have to reopen thunderbird, and, find the last message you were reading again.


One work-around is to in fact use alt+F4, or even ctrl+F4/W to close the message windows, but, over the years you get used to a form of standard behaviour, and, then it changes like this...LOL!


Anyway, is there something I am missing, or can someone suggest a way to try fix this - and, yes, know it's not directly NVDA realted, but, just thought would ask here in any case, since don't know where else to ask at moment.


Stay well


Jacob Kruger

Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."



very basic configuration

David Dand <gsn2dd@...>
 

Hello, 

I am trying out NVDA. I am not disabled (apart from some dyslexia). I want to use NVDA to read back paragraphs or lines in Libre Office so I can do an audio check as I sometimes read words in the way 'I want to see them'. All the system wide information given as I move my cursor/mouse is driving me crazy. Is there a way I can have a simple configuration that allows me to point and click to read a paragraph/line and hear nothing nothing else?

Thanks in advance for your help



Re: strange NVDA problems

Chris Mullins
 

Hi Melissa
To check if 32/64 bit, have a look if there is just a Program Files folder and a Program Files x86 folder as well. If both are there it's 64 bit if only Program Files it will be 32 bit. I have supported a friend who has successfully used NVDA on Vista and set it to speak on Windows start up. When you try to set NVDA to load on windows start-up, do you get any error messages? If so, what does it say? If the error is because you do not have administrator privileges on the computer, you need to change your windows user account details to get the privileges. If it allows you to set the check-box but doesn't retain the setting, you may not be retaining your NVDA configuration settings on exit. Try the following

Press NVDA+Control+g to open the NVDA General settings dialog box, tab down the list and ensure the following 3 check boxes are checked.

' Save configuration on exit'
'Automatically start NVDA after I log on to Windows''
'Use NVDA on the Windows logon screen (requires administrator privileges)'

Tab down to the OK button and press space bar. Restart your computer and see if it speaks on the log-on screen .

Cheers
Chris.



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Melissa Galbraith
Sent: 10 November 2016 02:27
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] strange NVDA problems

I believe it was under program files. I didn't instal the portable version. There are some really strange commands for NVDA. That's just my thoughts.


Melissa


On 11/8/2016 11:17 PM, Jacob Kruger wrote:
Melissa, did they install it under program files, or as a portable
version?


If portable, then you might need to add a start menu shortcut under
the start folder, but, I have no experience with vista.


Besides that, think either hitting windows key + U, possibly followed
a couple of seconds later, might bring up vista's rendtion of MS
narrator, whereas just the first keystroke did it under XP, but, like
said, have no experience with vista.


Stay well


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2016-11-09 2:24 AM, Melissa Galbraith wrote:
A friend loaded NVDA on an old vista computer I was given. NVDA
won't let me check the box about automaticly starting NVDA when
windows start. I do't know if vista is the problem. I'm also not
sure if I have a 32 or 2=62 bit. To use the coputer, I have to have
my friend get it started for me. I'm ot sure what the problem is.


Melissa








Text frame Boxes MS Word 2016

Cearbhall O'Meadhra
 

Hi,

 

Re: GitHub REFERENCE: elements in a word document are not read  #5738

 

I have a Word document that contains two appendices which are set out as Text Boxes that NVDA calls Text Frame when it gets into the BOX. The only way that I can find to get into the BOX is to find  A particular word that is known to be contained in the box. I see that this is a problem raised in GitHub and still unassigned. The sample given in the GitHub reference is a perfect illustration of what I mean and so you can replicate the problem from there if you wish.

 

Has anyone found a way to navigate these boxes? I understand that the difficulty is that they can float and so it is difficult for the screen reader to lock on to them.

 

As a matter of interest, I copied the entire document, including the two appendices, into clipboard in hopes of removing the text frames but the Windows cut and paste also failed to trap the contents of the text boxes!

 

I had a sighted person do the same on their machine, and they were surprised to find that the contents of the text boxes, which they could see clearly in the Word document, failed to paste into their notepad session!

 

Any thoughts would be more than welcome.

  

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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Re: vocalizer with nvda â?" is it still alive?

Amir Din <mrdin8877@...>
 

message me privately, i will try to help. since, this is not related to nvda.

amir.
http://twitter.com/amir442

On 10 Nov 2016, at 5:58 PM, Георги Ламбов <obichamlegiona@gmail.com> wrote:


Hi!
I work with the both screen readers: with jaws and with NvdA. I like the both ones.
I enjoy myself, that the talk also is about vocalizer for jaws. So I can quietly put my question.
I've also installed vocalizer version2.2 of course by jaws18. Firstly I installed compact voices. Nothing is happened; I couldn't find these voices at syntesizer's list with insert + control + s. But the voices actually were installed; they could be seen at the list with all the installed programs. Vocalizer expressive was also checked in the subMenu: synthesizers and braille, so it exists as factor. Why then? I decided I have to install a single voice. The same result. Can I do anyTing to trycorrecting the problem? I'd like to continue using jaws18 but I also want to use these new syntesizers. Without them I quietly can use jaws17. Thank you in advance for any ideas!
Georgi
На 10.11.2016 г. в 10:54 ч., Brian's Mail list account написа:
I thought the issue with the new version was that there are some pronounciationerrors in some languages with it that made them decide to wait.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Jason White via Groups.io" <jason=jasonjgw.net@groups.io>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2016 11:57 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] vocalizer with nvda â?" is it still alive?


Amir Din <mrdin8877@gmail.com> wrote:
does nvda uses vocalizer 2 point 2 or still version 1?

I don't know, but I have used version 2.2 with JAWS and found it to be very
responsive. I've also used Vocalizer Expressive under Mac OS, with similarly
good results. However, I don't know which version Apple are using.

Thus, if you can get version 2.2 for NVDA, it should be worth the cost.







Re: vocalizer with nvda â?" is it still alive?

Георги Ламбов <obichamlegiona@...>
 

Hi!
I work with the both screen readers: with jaws and with NvdA. I like the both ones.
I enjoy myself, that the talk also is about vocalizer for jaws. So I can quietly put my question.
I've also installed vocalizer version2.2 of course by jaws18. Firstly I installed compact voices. Nothing is happened; I couldn't find these voices at syntesizer's list with insert + control + s. But the voices actually were installed; they could be seen at the list with all the installed programs. Vocalizer expressive was also checked in the subMenu: synthesizers and braille, so it exists as factor. Why then? I decided I have to install a single voice. The same result. Can I do anyTing to trycorrecting the problem? I'd like to continue using jaws18 but I also want to use these new syntesizers. Without them I quietly can use jaws17. Thank you in advance for any ideas!
Georgi
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I thought the issue with the new version was that there are some pronounciationerrors in some languages with it that made them decide to wait.
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Jason White via Groups.io" <jason=jasonjgw.net@groups.io>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2016 11:57 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] vocalizer with nvda â?" is it still alive?


Amir Din <mrdin8877@gmail.com> wrote:
does nvda uses vocalizer 2 point 2 or still version 1?

I don't know, but I have used version 2.2 with JAWS and found it to be very
responsive. I've also used Vocalizer Expressive under Mac OS, with similarly
good results. However, I don't know which version Apple are using.

Thus, if you can get version 2.2 for NVDA, it should be worth the cost.





Re: strange NVDA problems

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What happens if you do right alt and n
Usually when desktop ittems won't launch, one of two issues tend to cause it. There is an invisible open window over the top of the desktop say from a program thatruns at start up, or Explorer itself is screwed up. This latter effect is more rare, but can happen if a program like an inti virus has stalled part way through hooking in to the system.
Other than that if it is not working on the ordinary mouse driven stems then its not nvda.
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Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2016 2:28 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] strange NVDA problems


Yes. I know about the short cut, and it is on my desk top, but it
won't work. My friend tried clicking on some things on desktop, but it
just wouldn't open anything.


On 11/8/2016 11:27 PM, Gene wrote:
If NVDA was installed, it creates a short cut on the desktop and as I
recall, it also creates a short cut command, control alt n to run
NVDA. While you might want NVDA to run at boot up, it is not
necessary to have it run automatically to start it yourself. and in
addition, you should know how to run it yourself because at times you
need to restart it. This can usually be done, as I understand it, by
using the short cut command even when NVDA is already running.
Gene

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*Sent:* Tuesday, November 08, 2016 6:24 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* [nvda] strange NVDA problems

A friend loaded NVDA on an old vista computer I was given. NVDA won't
let me check the box about automaticly starting NVDA when windows
start. I do't know if vista is the problem. I'm also not sure if I
have a 32 or 2=62 bit. To use the coputer, I have to have my friend get
it started for me. I'm ot sure what the problem is.


Melissa




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I thought the issue with the new version was that there are some pronounciationerrors in some languages with it that made them decide to wait.
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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2016 11:57 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] vocalizer with nvda â?" is it still alive?


Amir Din <mrdin8877@gmail.com> wrote:
does nvda uses vocalizer 2 point 2 or still version 1?

I don't know, but I have used version 2.2 with JAWS and found it to be very
responsive. I've also used Vocalizer Expressive under Mac OS, with similarly
good results. However, I don't know which version Apple are using.

Thus, if you can get version 2.2 for NVDA, it should be worth the cost.