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Re: FW: [ttz] To Joseph NVDA

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Is this in a certain version of windows?
I've been noticing some oddities with ie and to a lesser extent, Firefox on the latest update of windows 10 I have on one machine.

There do seem to be some differences in the way search fields in some sites work.
Brian

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From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com>
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Sent: Monday, November 07, 2016 4:15 AM
Subject: [nvda] FW: [ttz] To Joseph NVDA


Hi,

Can someone contact me so I can forward your answer to the originator of the
below post? Thanks.

Cheers,

Joseph



From: the-tech-zone@groups.io [mailto:the-tech-zone@groups.io] On Behalf Of
Holger Fiallo
Sent: Sunday, November 6, 2016 2:47 PM
To: the-tech-zone@groups.io
Subject: [ttz] To Joseph NVDA






Hi.

Still have issue with the current NVDA and amazon.com search. JAWS works
well in the search field. Yet NVDA does not work. I thought this was fix but
not. Is this will be fix? Also NVDA in IE has issues with stopping when I
hold control voice does not stop talk.
Holger Fiallo




Re: Google access issue

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Well it is obvious to me at least. You just go to the address bar and type in anything to use the google default search provider to look for, and up comes the prompt about looking at the terms and conditions. In most cases you get the option to remind me later, but every so often it opens the first page of the section with the results mentioned. If nobody else is getting that effect then I'll need to go back and review some settings in the browsers themselves. It is happening more on the windows 10 computer than the others just now for no reason I can figure out.
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Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2016 3:23 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Google access issue


Can you please provide repro steps, screenshot, and/or video demo?
Thanks!

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Every so often on the google page one getws prompted to look at the terms
and conditions, but after remind me later for a while it goes there anyway,
and the first screen is fine except a load of controlls that just say the
same word all the time, but press next and you seem to have a completely
blank page which you cannot do anything with at all. What is this one asks?
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FW: [ttz] To Joseph NVDA

 

Hi,

Can someone contact me so I can forward your answer to the originator of the below post? Thanks.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: the-tech-zone@groups.io [mailto:the-tech-zone@groups.io] On Behalf Of Holger Fiallo
Sent: Sunday, November 6, 2016 2:47 PM
To: the-tech-zone@groups.io
Subject: [ttz] To Joseph NVDA

 

 


Hi.

Still have issue with the current NVDA and amazon.com search. JAWS works well in the search field. Yet NVDA does not work. I thought this was fix but not. Is this will be fix? Also NVDA in IE has issues with stopping when I hold control voice does not stop talk.
Holger Fiallo


Re: Google access issue

Kevin Chao
 

Can you please provide repro steps, screenshot, and/or video demo?
Thanks!

On Sun, Nov 6, 2016 at 6:02 AM Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...> wrote:
Every so often on the google page one getws prompted to look at the terms
and conditions, but after remind me later for a while it goes there anyway,
and the first screen is fine except a load of controlls that just say the
same word all the time, but press next and you seem to have a completely
blank page which you cannot do anything with at all. What is this one asks?
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Re: tablets:

matthew dyer
 

Hi,


I had a windows 8.1 laptop with 32 gb of storage and it was not worth it. I had to reset the machine just to get windows 10 to een install and even then the 1607 would not even install even after a clean reset. I would go with something more storage if you can as you might be bettter off.


Matthew

On 11/06/2016 08:48 AM, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
I think thebiggest issue would be that windows itself on that amount of ram might be a bit limited itself. also I'd get a wireless keyboard as my one experience of trying nvda with touch was that its not very usable for whatever reason.
Mind you I might just be a bit biased against touch screens...:-)
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Rosemarie Chavarria" <knitqueen2007@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2016 5:20 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] tablets:


Hi, Kenny,


I think NVDA should be able to run on it ok. Maybe someone else can jump
in and correct me if I'm wrong.


Rosemarie


On 11/5/2016 9:34 PM, Kenny Peyattt jr. wrote:

Hi I am thinking about getting a windows tablet, and I was thinking
about getting the nextbook tablet from Walmart. It has windows 10 home
adition on it, and it comes with 2 gigs of ram. How well will nvda run
with 2 gigs of ram in a windows tablet?

Kenny Peyatt jr.

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tablets

Josh Kennedy
 

hello

I was thinking of getting the RCA cambio with windows10 with similar specs, 2gigs ram 32bit windows10 home and a quad core atom processor. Will NVDA run ok with that? oh yeah and it has a physical keyboard and mouse docking station.


Josh


Google access issue

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Every so often on the google page one getws prompted to look at the terms and conditions, but after remind me later for a while it goes there anyway, and the first screen is fine except a load of controlls that just say the same word all the time, but press next and you seem to have a completely blank page which you cannot do anything with at all. What is this one asks?
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Re: tablets:

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I think thebiggest issue would be that windows itself on that amount of ram might be a bit limited itself. also I'd get a wireless keyboard as my one experience of trying nvda with touch was that its not very usable for whatever reason.
Mind you I might just be a bit biased against touch screens...:-)
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From: "Rosemarie Chavarria" <knitqueen2007@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2016 5:20 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] tablets:


Hi, Kenny,


I think NVDA should be able to run on it ok. Maybe someone else can jump
in and correct me if I'm wrong.


Rosemarie


On 11/5/2016 9:34 PM, Kenny Peyattt jr. wrote:

Hi I am thinking about getting a windows tablet, and I was thinking
about getting the nextbook tablet from Walmart. It has windows 10 home
adition on it, and it comes with 2 gigs of ram. How well will nvda run
with 2 gigs of ram in a windows tablet?

Kenny Peyatt jr.

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Windows 10


Re: An ad blocker and nvda issue

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You still tend to get gibberish though in the middle of articles.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@ripco.com>
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Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2016 4:08 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] An ad blocker and nvda issue


Turn off or block JAVA scripts.

Gene
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From: Brian's Mail list account
Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2016 6:21 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] An ad blocker and nvda issue


OK so up until a few weeks ago, I have been able to access our local papers
web site with an ad blocker on and its mostly accessible. However in the
last couple of weeks I have found no news on it at all. I asked a sighted
person to look at the screen and he told me there is a huge banner on the
screen in pretty graphics saying please turn off your ad blocker to view our
content or words to that effect. Of course being a graphic, it was not
reported to me at all.
The problem is that if you turn the ad blocker off on a site like this the
site is no longer accessible due to adverts that do weird things in
graphics an scroll and all sorts, thus making it pointless getting access.
Does anyone know of an ad blocker that can lie to the site so I can read it,
or can something be done to nvda to let it ignore all the non text stuff on
a site to allow at least some sense to be made of this.
After reading all the posts on here about guidelines for accessible sites,
it seems to me that you can have the most accessible site in the world but
insisting on giving adverts which are not checked as being accessible will
just make the whole exercise pointless in the end.
I will write to them (surrey comet) but since this seems to be afflicting
more and more sites, I fear I'll be knocking on an empty room door here.
Maybe some proxy server could pretend it was me!
Brian

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Re: Strange problem with a brand new laptop and NVDA

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This morning there was a load of updates to windows 10 again. New versions of mail etc by the look of it. That is a bit of a rubbish program even if it can be made accessible.Seems to be crippledcompared to old Outlook express to me.
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From: "Mallard" <mallard@kimabe.eu>
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Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2016 11:48 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Strange problem with a brand new laptop and NVDA


Great!

Glad it worked for him too.

My son and I went crazy for about two weeks trying to help a friend with
the same issues, only to discover he hadn't upgraded to the latest
Windows 10 version... (smle).


He almost sold his brand new laptop because of that problem... lol.

Ciao,

Ollie





Il 04/11/2016 14:09, Michel Such ha scritto:
Fantastic!


After update to Anniversary version, all works fine.


Michel SUCH

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Le 2016-11-04 à 11:25, Michel Such a écrit :
Thanks,


He is currently updating to Anniversary Update, let's se if it fixes the problem.



Michel SUCH

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Le 2016-11-04 à 11:04, Mallard a écrit :
Hello,


Has your friend checked what version of Windows 10 his/her laptop is running?


If it isn't the latest one - 1607 -, he/she should update Windows 10 to that version.


I had friends who had the same problem, and it was automatically solved by updating the OS.


hth, ciao,

Ollie





Il 04/11/2016 10:16, Michel Such ha scritto:
Hi all,


Here is what happens.

Someone I know has just purchased a new laptop running Windows 10.

He installed NVDA and has problems with Firefox and Thunderbird.

When pressing alt to get to the menus in both applications, menu items are not spoken, NVDA simply says "unknown".

Same problem occurs with LibreOffice menus.

As I never encountered this problem, I would like to know if someone already got this, and what solution was found.

Reading the NVDA log does not seem to reveal any particular problem, so we don't know what to do.











Re: tablets:

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi


I guess at the end of the day it might be more of a storage thing.


from what I have been seeing 2 gig of ram a quad core processor and 32 gig of ram minimum. Look also to see if you can expand it with a micro SD card for more storage.


Also ask if it has the x86 version of Windows on it as well.


You might have to add on a blue tooth keyboard as well.


Gene nz



On 6/11/2016 6:20 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

Hi, Kenny,


I think NVDA should be able to run on it ok. Maybe someone else can jump in and correct me if I'm wrong.


Rosemarie


On 11/5/2016 9:34 PM, Kenny Peyattt jr. wrote:

Hi I am thinking about getting a windows tablet, and I was thinking about getting the nextbook tablet from Walmart. It has windows 10 home adition on it, and it comes with 2 gigs of ram. How well will nvda run with 2 gigs of ram in a windows tablet?

Kenny Peyatt jr.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 




Re: tablets:

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, Kenny,


I think NVDA should be able to run on it ok. Maybe someone else can jump in and correct me if I'm wrong.


Rosemarie


On 11/5/2016 9:34 PM, Kenny Peyattt jr. wrote:

Hi I am thinking about getting a windows tablet, and I was thinking about getting the nextbook tablet from Walmart. It has windows 10 home adition on it, and it comes with 2 gigs of ram. How well will nvda run with 2 gigs of ram in a windows tablet?

Kenny Peyatt jr.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 



tablets:

Kenny Peyattt jr.
 

Hi I am thinking about getting a windows tablet, and I was thinking about getting the nextbook tablet from Walmart. It has windows 10 home adition on it, and it comes with 2 gigs of ram. How well will nvda run with 2 gigs of ram in a windows tablet?

Kenny Peyatt jr.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: Firefox alternative?

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi


does not CTRl + either 1 up to 9 not work?


If there is only 3 pages open then you would use ctrl 1 to 3.


that is only if for tab browsing.


Otherwise is there is a setting for opening in a new window, that is
what I usually use.


there is a list of browsers that have been tested by nvda users that
work with nvda if you are interested.


thats only if you are looking at alternatives.


They can be found on the following page at
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nvda_road_tested_programs.html

Look under the browser section you can quickly jump down by headings.


The software on that page is what people so far have said works with
nvda but there would be alot more. at least it is a starting point for
new users.


Gene nz

On 6/11/2016 11:03 AM, Travis Siegel wrote:
In chrome, every window you open becomes a whole new process, so you
would treate multiple chrome windows just like multiple programs. Just
use the alt-tab, and toggle through all the programs to find the other
chrome sessions. I don't know why it's done this way, but that's how
it's handled, so just treat each open page like a different program,
and you're all set.

hth.


On 11/5/16, Dejan Ristic <r.dejan83@gmail.com> wrote:
Opera is rather Chrome-based, and its accessibility may be compared
with
that of Google Chrome's. I use them both, and find them more accessible
than they were before, though. The only thing I cannot do with them is
switching between the currently running windows open in any of them. I
know how to do it in Firefox. All in all, Firefox is the most
accessible
to NVDA.




Re: Track Changes in Word

Pranav Lal
 

Hi Quentin,

 

This is a generic problem with Microsoft Word. NVDA does not tell the user when a pane has been opened.

 

Pranav

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Friday, November 04, 2016 2:56 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Track Changes in Word

 

Hi Kelby,

 

You are right, there isn't anything obvious indicating whether track changes are on or off.  You can go to the Revision ribbon and check whether the track changes button is pressed or not.  Changes themselves are treated as Annotations by NVDA, so they appear in the elements list etc.

 

The only reference for this that I know of, aside from a brief mention in the User Guide, is the Microsoft Word with NVDA module here: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/ which goes into more detail than I included above as well as several activities on the topic (in Chapter 11).

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 7:43 AM, kelby carlson <kelbycarlson@...> wrote:

All,

Is there anything out there on how to use track changes in MS Word
with NVDA? When I press ctrl-shift-e it doesn't tell me if track
changes are even on or off. This caused a big problem with an
assignment recently.




 

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Re: Weather Plus 4.2 update available

Kevin Cussick
 

it works very well in the UK.

On 05/11/2016 11:59, Gerardo Corripio wrote:
Yes it shuld work OK in the UK; I'm here in Mexico, a)d Weather Plus
works as is should. Good luck!

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone 4S

El 05/11/2016, a las 5:54 a.m., Ron Canazzi <aa2vm@roadrunner.com
<mailto:aa2vm@roadrunner.com>> escribió:

It should work worldwide.



On 11/5/2016 7:37 AM, Peter Beasley wrote:
Does the weather plus add on work here in the UK or is it just for
the US?

*From:* Ron Canazzi <mailto:aa2vm@roadrunner.com>
*Sent:* Saturday, November 05, 2016 11:32 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Weather Plus 4.2 update available


Hi Adriano,



Thanks for the recent Weather Plus Update. I sure wish I knew why
the barometric readings are always wrong for my zip code/location.
They are still always about .6 to .7 Inches too low.




On 11/5/2016 7:11 AM, Adriano Barbieri via Groups.io
<http://groups.io>; wrote:
Hi there,

Version 4.2
* Added 5 new sound effects;
It will be necessary to update them from the settings of the plugin.
* Fixed bug in the import function;
The list of cities was not sorted alphabetically.
* Added import mode in the import function; you may decide to
completely replace your own list, or simply add new cities to it.
* Updated the reading of the weather forecast, current weather report;
Adding the perceived temperature (wind chill).
* Added new strings to the list weather reports.

For those who already use Weather Plus, the update is automatic,
otherwise:
Download #1:
http://www.nvda.it/system/files/plugin/weather_plus4.2.nvda-addon?download=1
Download #2:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5251169/Weather%20Plus4.2.nvda-addon
http://addons.nvda-project.org/files/get.php?file=wetp
Cheers
Adriano Barbieri
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Re: Firefox alternative?

Dejan Ristic
 

I have tried it, but what I always get is the last window that I have open. I know that more are open, for I open them, but the last is shown when alt-tabbing.

On 11/5/2016 11:03 PM, Travis Siegel wrote:
In chrome, every window you open becomes a whole new process, so you would treate multiple chrome windows just like multiple programs. Just use the alt-tab, and toggle through all the programs to find the other chrome sessions. I don't know why it's done this way, but that's how it's handled, so just treat each open page like a different program, and you're all set.

hth.


On 11/5/16, Dejan Ristic <r.dejan83@gmail.com> wrote:
Opera is rather Chrome-based, and its accessibility may be compared with
that of Google Chrome's. I use them both, and find them more accessible
than they were before, though. The only thing I cannot do with them is
switching between the currently running windows open in any of them. I
know how to do it in Firefox. All in all, Firefox is the most accessible
to NVDA.




Re: Firefox alternative?

Travis Siegel <tsiegel@...>
 

In chrome, every window you open becomes a whole new process, so you would treate multiple chrome windows just like multiple programs. Just use the alt-tab, and toggle through all the programs to find the other chrome sessions. I don't know why it's done this way, but that's how it's handled, so just treat each open page like a different program, and you're all set.

hth.

On 11/5/16, Dejan Ristic <r.dejan83@gmail.com> wrote:
Opera is rather Chrome-based, and its accessibility may be compared with
that of Google Chrome's. I use them both, and find them more accessible
than they were before, though. The only thing I cannot do with them is
switching between the currently running windows open in any of them. I
know how to do it in Firefox. All in all, Firefox is the most accessible
to NVDA.


Re: Firefox alternative?

Brandon Cross <bcross3286@...>
 

Ice weasel? Firefox is coded in XUL, you could create your own browser
if you wish.

On 11/5/16, Dejan Ristic <r.dejan83@gmail.com> wrote:
Opera is rather Chrome-based, and its accessibility may be compared with
that of Google Chrome's. I use them both, and find them more accessible
than they were before, though. The only thing I cannot do with them is
switching between the currently running windows open in any of them. I
know how to do it in Firefox. All in all, Firefox is the most accessible
to NVDA.


On 11/4/2016 1:50 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:

Have you tried resetting Firefox? Particularly if you use add-ons or
extensions. I believe Opera was based on Firefox but I have no idea
how accessible it is since I haven't played with it in ages.





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Re: Strange problem with a brand new laptop and NVDA

Salva Doménech <kibay@...>
 

Hi.
I shaw that it is solved yet, but, the next time, you also can put the computer as new. In configuration, upgrade and security you’ve this option.
Cheers

El 5 nov 2016, a las 18:17, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@gmail.com> escribió:

Hi, Mitchal,


I'm glad the upgrade solved the problem. I hadn't thought of that.


Rosemarie




On 11/5/2016 12:26 AM, Michel Such wrote:
Hi Rosemarie,


Strangely, simply upgrading Windows 10 to Anniversary update fixed the problem.

Previously, he tried several times to uninstall and reinstall the problematic softwares without any result.

I guess some component is not installed or not correctly registered in the Windows preinstalled on the computer.


Michel SUCH

michel.such@free.fr
Skype : michel.such
Twitter : @SuchMichel

Le 2016-11-05 à 05:25, Rosemarie Chavarria a écrit :
Hi, Mitchal,


Maybe your friend can try doing a clean install of both firefox and thunderbird. Hopefully that should solve the problem.


Hope this helps.


Rosemarie




On 11/4/2016 2:16 AM, Michel Such wrote:
Hi all,


Here is what happens.

Someone I know has just purchased a new laptop running Windows 10.

He installed NVDA and has problems with Firefox and Thunderbird.

When pressing alt to get to the menus in both applications, menu items are not spoken, NVDA simply says "unknown".

Same problem occurs with LibreOffice menus.

As I never encountered this problem, I would like to know if someone already got this, and what solution was found.

Reading the NVDA log does not seem to reveal any particular problem, so we don't know what to do.