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Re: NVDA 2016.3 AND MS EXCEL 2010
Jacques <lists4js@...>
Okay fine, I accept it as such. I always try to look at the very basics before coming to a conclusion that there's a serious bug. In this situation the maximise state of the window clearly makes no difference.
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Jacques
On Monday, 24 October 2016 10:42, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
It makes no difference whatsoever. Something changed after the 2010
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Re: Lite version of Outlook.com
Yes but the Outlook webmail you're talking about is probably the Exchange one, which is not what I'm primarily using. I do have an Exchange account but never really used it at all.
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Re: NVDA 2016.3 AND MS EXCEL 2010
Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
It makes no difference whatsoever. Something changed after the 2010 office suite and now the older ones do seem to exhibit some odd behaviour, like having a broowse mode under certain conditions which should not bbe there. I guess its some kind of detection of the wrong app, ie it thinks its wrd?
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Can anyone raise this as an issue on github. I use the software so rarely that it does not seem too much of a problem. Brian bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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From: "Jacques" <lists4js@runbox.com> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Monday, October 24, 2016 6:30 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2016.3 AND MS EXCEL 2010 Heaven, perhaps something very elementary which you already have looked at, but is the Excel window maximised? This will of course have no influence on the browse mode being activated, but perhaps on the double reading of cell content?
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Re: Lite version of Outlook.com
Salva Doménech Miguel <kibayasd@...>
Hi.
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I’m not following this tread since you started, but, if I’ve understood good there’s a lite version of Outlook’s Webmail? Cheers
El 24 oct 2016, a las 10:36, Brian's Mail list account <bglists@blueyonder.co.uk> escribió:
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Re: problem reading text file
Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
Yes bit it is then converted into word format. I do suspect the more recent notepad has some issues of its own.
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Brian bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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From: "Gary Metzler " <gmtravel@bellsouth.net> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2016 4:59 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] problem reading text file Hi Brian,
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Re: Lite version of Outlook.com
Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
Not as simple then as cutting and pasting the address from ie8 to another browser I suppose?
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These bits of silliness are why I still use email clients not web based email, though the fact that to use webmail means putting your address book online comes a close second. Brian bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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From: "Supanut Leepaisomboon" <supanut2000@outlook.com> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2016 3:40 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] Lite version of Outlook.com I saw the check box but it is disabled, below it there's a message saying that it isn't available for Outlook.com, which is strange because the lite version was able to be used when I used IE8 on my XP virtual machine. This leaves me with 2 options. Either switch to Thunderbird, or try in any way I could to trick Outlook.com into thinking that I'm using IE8, I.E user agent spoofing in Firefox which worked as there's an add on for that, but it's global, which is not what I want as I want the spoofing to occur on Outlook.com only and not everywhere. I did sent Microsoft a feedback regarding this, but so far they didn't seem to be doing anything about the accessibility issues with the new Outlook.com.
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Re: NVDA 2016.3 AND MS EXCEL 2010
Jacques <lists4js@...>
Heaven, perhaps something very elementary which you already have looked at, but is the Excel window maximised? This will of course have no influence on the browse mode being activated, but perhaps on the double reading of cell content?
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Jacques
On Monday, 24 October 2016 07:07, Heaven Botma wrote:
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Re: NVDA 2016.3 AND MS EXCEL 2010
Heaven Botma <heaven@...>
Hi
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You are right about the F2 key. It only recently started this annoying behaviour. Another problem I have found in Ms Excel 2010 is that, when I read the cells, NVDA tends to repeat the previous cell's information instead of reading the current cell. Regards Heaven Botma Dosent: Kaleidoskoop Opleidingskollege Lecturer: Kaleidoscope Training College T: 023 348 7634 C: 063 692 2573 F: 023 348 7633 E: heaven@training-kaleidoscopesa.org W: www.kaleidoscopesa.org Adderleystraat 20 Adderley Street Posbus 233 P.O. Box, Worcester, 6849
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian's Mail list account Sent: Saturday, 22 October 2016 11:56 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2016.3 AND MS EXCEL 2010 I thought from my limited and old knowledge of this app, that f2 got you into edit and then if you abort esc will come out without entering browse mode and of course also not performing changes to the file loaded either. I'm not totally sure why the browse mode is used at all in this program as its mainly just fields. Brian bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Heaven Botma" <heaven@training-kaleidoscopesa.org> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Friday, October 21, 2016 12:18 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2016.3 AND MS EXCEL 2010 Hi I think it was mentioned that 2016 does not have this problem, however, Office 2016 has a different approach to charts which we haven't got the time to figure out at this stage. Thank you for your assistance, I'll definitely look into it. Kind regards Heaven Botma Dosent: Kaleidoskoop Opleidingskollege Lecturer: Kaleidoscope Training College T: 023 348 7634 C: 063 692 2573 F: 023 348 7633 E: heaven@training-kaleidoscopesa.org W: www.kaleidoscopesa.org Adderleystraat 20 Adderley Street Posbus 233 P.O. Box, Worcester, 6849 -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian's Mail list account Sent: Friday, 21 October 2016 12:33 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2016.3 AND MS EXCEL 2010 Its all versions before 2013 I think though I've only tried the one mentioned and 2002 thus far and both have this issue on the release version but not on the master snap. Brian bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jacques" <lists4js@runbox.com> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Friday, October 21, 2016 10:38 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2016.3 AND MS EXCEL 2010 Hi Heaven, I am unable to duplicate this with NVDA 2016.3 and Excel 2016.
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Re: Lite version of Outlook.com
When I went into the general setting > lite version I can't even tick the check box; as the check box appears to have been disabled. I don't know why Microsoft would force people on a modern browser to use the full version; Google's Gmail offers a basic version on all browsers, even on modern ones. And abandoning Outlook.com entirely is not an option as I have to maintain my Office365 subscription. But using Thunderbird, however, is a possibility, the only downside is that it doesn't sync the addressbook with Outlook.com and as of yet I still don't know how to do that in Thunderbird.
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Re: screamer radio
Gary Metzler <gmtravel@...>
Thanks for the link.
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From: Георги Ламбов Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2016 2:42 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] screamer radio Hi! Here you are: accessibilitycentral.net/NVDA%20addons.html There are many add-ons there and if the link don't belong to searched add-on, visit the webSite alone. Georgi На 23.10.2016 г. в 19:02 ч., Gary Metzler написа: Where can I get the tappen radio add on? Thanks,
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Re: Lite version of Outlook.com
Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
Hi
I had a sus for my self. it looks as though it has been stopped in later versions of internet exploder and mozilla fire fox etc.
I do have a windows 10 machine with internet exploder 11 and the latest version of mozilla fire fox.
Click on the settings menu (a flower shaped icon) Arrow down to Options and press Enter Tab around the page until you finally get to General Click on general and press Enter Tab once to go down the list and arrow until you hear Lite Version Tick the checkbox Use the Lite version of OUtlook it also gave me a message that after certain versions it was not supported and also the option was not available in outlook.com it used to work for me, but not sure if it changed when i went to windows 10 or not. I know when i did notice it i could not really move in it i had to tab etc so set it up in mozilla thunder bird to get those emails and have done that ever since. Gene nz On 23/10/2016 11:54 PM, Supanut Leepaisomboon wrote:
-- Check out my website for nvda tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net
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Re: screamer radio
Георги Ламбов <obichamlegiona@...>
Hi!
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Here you are: accessibilitycentral.net/NVDA%20addons.html There are many add-ons there and if the link don't belong to searched add-on, visit the webSite alone. Georgi На 23.10.2016 г. в 19:02 ч., Gary Metzler написа:
Where can I get the tappen radio add on? Thanks,
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Re: screamer radio
Gary Metzler <gmtravel@...>
Where can I get the tappen radio add on? Thanks,
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From: Michael Capelle Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2016 9:04 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] screamer radio i prefer tappin radio, plus there is an NVDA add on for it. -----Original Message----- From: Георги Ламбов Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2016 7:40 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] screamer radio Hi group! I've just tried the new version of screamer radio, which is: 0.9. I've downloaded the portable one. My impression is, it's isn't quite accessible with screen readers. I tried it with NvdA. Has anyone worked with this program and can anyone says somethings more about the program when possible step by step? On the instruction I've read that hotKeys also are supporrted but probbably the screen readers don't read all from the menus, so I couldn't find hotKeys. Thanks in advance. Georgi
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Re: problem reading text file
Gary Metzler <gmtravel@...>
Hi Brian,
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What I did was copy and paste the info into word 2013 and it read the whole file.
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From: Brian's Mail list account Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2016 5:26 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] problem reading text file No it even does this if the screensave is off from what I've found. It might be a nice thing to see if one imports the exe notepad file from xp to 10 and run it from another place to see if it still does it. Certainly Wordpad from XP seems to be better than the 10 native one as I've tried it.For one thing, no ribbon menus.... Brian bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "nasrin khaksar" <nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2016 4:42 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] problem reading text file hi. you should find screen saver and set it to none. i dont know about windows ten, because i use xp but you can find screen saver and set it to none to use say all in every places. On 10/22/16, John Sanfilippo <johnsanfilippo@outlook.com> wrote: Hi, -- we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation. holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107. in the very authentic narration is: imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation. best website for studying islamic book in different languages al-islam.org
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Re: problem reading text file
Gary Metzler <gmtravel@...>
Hi Brian,
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Thanks for the reply.
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From: Brian's Mail list account Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2016 5:23 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] problem reading text file Funny you should mention this, yes, and it seems to have something to do with either the encoding of the file or notepad itself on windows 10. It is not doing it all the time though, and hence might be a little tricky to pin down. Its not the only program, some email programs seem to be much the same as if the scrolling is stuck. Brian bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Metzler " <gmtravel@bellsouth.net> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2016 3:27 PM Subject: [nvda] problem reading text file Hi All, I get my church bulletin sent to me in a e mail attachment. It opens up in notepad. When I use the say all command it doesn’t read the whole file. I start window eyes and it reads fine. Also I tried putting it into ms word and it reads fine. I made sure that the window was maximized. I am using the latest nvda and win 10. Has anyone else seen this? Thanks for any help. Regards, Gary kn4ox
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Re: Lite version of Outlook.com
I saw the check box but it is disabled, below it there's a message saying that it isn't available for Outlook.com, which is strange because the lite version was able to be used when I used IE8 on my XP virtual machine. This leaves me with 2 options. Either switch to Thunderbird, or try in any way I could to trick Outlook.com into thinking that I'm using IE8, I.E user agent spoofing in Firefox which worked as there's an add on for that, but it's global, which is not what I want as I want the spoofing to occur on Outlook.com only and not everywhere. I did sent Microsoft a feedback regarding this, but so far they didn't seem to be doing anything about the accessibility issues with the new Outlook.com.
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Re: Lite version of Outlook.com
Robert Kingett <kingettspeaks@...>
You need to set lite outlook as the default option in your outlook settings but it has been years since so do not know where the check box has moved to.
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Re: Can I Route Mouse Pointer to Browse Mode Cursor?
Kenny <kwashingtonlist@...>
What I do while in Browse mode to locate the table containing the cell I want:
1. Press [t] key to navigate quickly to the table you want. 2. Press [Ctrl]+[Alt]+([Up Arrow] or [Down Arrow]) keys to navigate to the row you want. 3. Press [Ctrl]+[Alt]+([Right Arrow] or [Left Arrow]) keys to navigate to the column you want.
NVDA reads everything so it will be quite easy to reach the table cell containing the exact data you want to manipulate.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Michael Capelle
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2016 8:23 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Can I Route Mouse Pointer to Browse Mode Cursor?
hello, i also wnat to know this, alos what is the best way to navigate tables?
From: Kenny Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2016 1:10 AM Subject: [nvda] Can I Route Mouse Pointer to Browse Mode Cursor?
Hello,
I'm a new user of NVDA so I'm in the mist of learning about it. Was using JAWS exclusively for the past 15+ years.
I've always been better at learning something when getting a program to do something specific to my needs.
Here's the scenario.
I'm able to navigate to a clickable DHTML element on a web page while in Browse Mode. It's contained within a table (Row 1, column 6.) I located this element first by simply using the down arrow key. Confirmed the exact cell location by using the [Ctrl]+[Alt]+[Right Arrow] key combination.
Now when I try using the Review cursor to locate the same clickable DHTML element, it doesn't see it at all. It simply says the word "Blank" while over it.
The special route mouse function ([Insert]+[/ on numpad]) only works with the review cursor. Is there a way of having the route function work for the Browse mode cursor too?
Even though I'm able to activate that clickable element from within Browse mode by hitting the [Enter] key, there might come a time that I want the mouse pointer to left or right click it instead.
Some elements like this even bring up a sub menu when you mouse over them too.
Any ideas how to approach my query?
Is it possible to create a route mouse pointer to browse mode cursor add-on for NVDA?
How about having the ability to assign a text label to an element visible in browse mode only, so you can find it easily with the review cursor and perform functions on it?
Hope I'm making sense to someone out there LOL!
Thanks for any suggestions.
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Re: screamer radio
Michael Capelle <mcapelle@...>
i prefer tappin radio, plus there is an NVDA add on for it.
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From: Георги Ламбов Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2016 7:40 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] screamer radio Hi group! I've just tried the new version of screamer radio, which is: 0.9. I've downloaded the portable one. My impression is, it's isn't quite accessible with screen readers. I tried it with NvdA. Has anyone worked with this program and can anyone says somethings more about the program when possible step by step? On the instruction I've read that hotKeys also are supporrted but probbably the screen readers don't read all from the menus, so I couldn't find hotKeys. Thanks in advance. Georgi
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screamer radio
Георги Ламбов <obichamlegiona@...>
Hi group!
I've just tried the new version of screamer radio, which is: 0.9. I've downloaded the portable one. My impression is, it's isn't quite accessible with screen readers. I tried it with NvdA. Has anyone worked with this program and can anyone says somethings more about the program when possible step by step? On the instruction I've read that hotKeys also are supporrted but probbably the screen readers don't read all from the menus, so I couldn't find hotKeys. Thanks in advance. Georgi
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