Hi,

I think I recall something like this. Can you manually read thru the
entire file?

I never tried solving this and haven't seen it often.

John S



On 10/22/16 10:27, Gary Metzler wrote:

Hi All,

I get my church bulletin sent to me in a e mail attachment. It opens up
in notepad. When I use the say all command it doesn’t read the whole
file. I start window eyes and it reads fine. Also I tried putting it
into ms word and it reads fine. I made sure that the window was
maximized. I am using the latest nvda and win 10. Has anyone else seen
this? Thanks for any help. Regards, Gary kn4ox

On Oct 22, 2016, at 4:30 AM, Георги Ламбов <obichamlegiona@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi!

I don't find it's difficult to uninstall readon tv movie radio player. I did it before because I couldn't find way to work with the program.

About finding the stations. After you've fount

the country you continue with tab and you find the list of genres of the proposed stations and with one more tab: the stations alone.
Georgi
На 22.10.2016 г. в 07:31 ч., Ron Canazzi написа:

Hi Group,


Also if you use the Readon player, be careful about add ware and the inability to remove it. I had to get a special removal tool to get rid of it.

On 10/21/2016 10:14 PM, brennenkinch@gmail.com wrote:
Hi i have to questions about the Readon TV Movie Radio Player program 1 how do i find a tv show when i select a country and a genre and 2 the tvu player and the sopcast player plugins are not working do i need them for this program and if i do how can i get them to work thanks for any help

Sent from my iPhone

Hi All,

I get my church bulletin sent to me in a e mail attachment. It opens up
in notepad. When I use the say all command it doesn’t read the whole
file. I start window eyes and it reads fine. Also I tried putting it
into ms word and it reads fine. I made sure that the window was
maximized. I am using the latest nvda and win 10. Has anyone else seen
this? Thanks for any help. Regards, Gary kn4ox

Hi,

I think I recall something like this. Can you manually read thru the
entire file?

I never tried solving this and haven't seen it often.

John S



On 10/22/16 10:27, Gary Metzler wrote:

Hi All,

I get my church bulletin sent to me in a e mail attachment. It opens up
in notepad. When I use the say all command it doesn’t read the whole
file. I start window eyes and it reads fine. Also I tried putting it
into ms word and it reads fine. I made sure that the window was
maximized. I am using the latest nvda and win 10. Has anyone else seen
this? Thanks for any help. Regards, Gary kn4ox

So, by definition what exactly is non simple html anyway? Is it that it can in fact automatically pick up referenced content not actually present in the email.If it is then I'd suggest this is pretty dangerous for many reasons, and hence the warning.
Brian

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Hi All,

I get my church bulletin sent to me in a e mail attachment. It opens up
in notepad. When I use the say all command it doesn’t read the whole
file. I start window eyes and it reads fine. Also I tried putting it
into ms word and it reads fine. I made sure that the window was
maximized. I am using the latest nvda and win 10. Has anyone else seen
this? Thanks for any help. Regards, Gary kn4ox

Gene, just to confirm - just tested it on a site this side - if I have layout tables turned off, it doesn't get announced, but, I could still use ctrl+alt+arrow keys to navigate around in a form of layout table.

Stay well

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."

I should add that what I said is generally true.  But in the case of the layout table setting, I don't know if it changes the way NVDA works when in a layout table or if it just announces when you are entering one and perhaps leaving one.  I have assumed that it only announces that you are entering and perhaps leaving a table and, aside from that, has no effect.  However, my assumption may be wrong.  I started to thing about that after seeing Jacob's message.  Though I doubt I am wrong, I wrote to say that I may be and to get this clarified.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Gene

Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2016 7:03 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Reading tabs on web page

All these settings do is determine whether NVDA announces that you are on or entering something.  They have nothing to do with whether the thing is read or can be worked with.  In other words, if you are entering a table, you will hear table if this setting is on.  If you have the announce links setting checked or the announce heading setting checked, you will hear link announced when you read a link or heading announced when you are at a heading.  If these settings are unchecked, the item will still be read and can be worked with exactly as before.  The difference is that you won't hear heading announced or link announced or table announced.  the thing will just be read. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Cearbhall O'Meadhra

Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2016 4:35 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Reading tabs on web page

Jacob,

Nice try! However, I'm afraid it didn't work. What does that setting do
anywhay?

By the way, did you see my email from last night? In case not, I was
pointing out that I had a look at the source code of this web page and it is
clear that they must be using java or some scripting process to call each of
the columns in turn as a web page link  from somewhere else in the web site.



This means that they are painting the columns side by side on the screen but
in the html code the contents are coming in sequentially. That explains why
NVDA cannot make it into a table for love or money!


All the best,

Cearbhall

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...



So, they must be painting nine lines from oen page. Placing a tab control,
then bringing in the next one and so on
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Kruger
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2016 8:46 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Reading tabs on web page

Cearbhall, might not help much, but, under NVDA preferences, brows3e mode,
toggle layout tables on/off, and see if that at least makes NVDA recognise
this table as a table, etc.


Stay we



Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2016-10-21 11:29 AM, Cearbhall O'Meadhra wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I would like some help to read a web page where information is set out
> visually in tables by using tabs rather than a table structure. I need
> to read it in columns but NVDA does not find a column and just reads
> each column entry line by line. Has anyone any experience overcoming this?
>
> Here is the offending page if you would like to have a go and see what
> you can do.
> https://tollfreeforwarding.com/content/rates.html#
>
> The tabular area begins with the words:
>   "Starter
>   Business
>   Enterprise"
> In fact, these three words are three of the column headings that I am
> trying to read. As you can see, they simply appear to be lines one
> below the other instead of a table row.
>
> I really hope you can help. I do intend to speak to the developer but,
> meanwhile, I have to have the information!
>
>
> All the best,
>
> Cearbhall
>
> m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e:
> cearbhall.omeadhra@...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

I should add that what I said is generally true.  But in the case of the layout table setting, I don't know if it changes the way NVDA works when in a layout table or if it just announces when you are entering one and perhaps leaving one.  I have assumed that it only announces that you are entering and perhaps leaving a table and, aside from that, has no effect.  However, my assumption may be wrong.  I started to thing about that after seeing Jacob's message.  Though I doubt I am wrong, I wrote to say that I may be and to get this clarified.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Gene

Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2016 7:03 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Reading tabs on web page

All these settings do is determine whether NVDA announces that you are on or entering something.  They have nothing to do with whether the thing is read or can be worked with.  In other words, if you are entering a table, you will hear table if this setting is on.  If you have the announce links setting checked or the announce heading setting checked, you will hear link announced when you read a link or heading announced when you are at a heading.  If these settings are unchecked, the item will still be read and can be worked with exactly as before.  The difference is that you won't hear heading announced or link announced or table announced.  the thing will just be read. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Cearbhall O'Meadhra

Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2016 4:35 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Reading tabs on web page

Jacob,

Nice try! However, I'm afraid it didn't work. What does that setting do
anywhay?

By the way, did you see my email from last night? In case not, I was
pointing out that I had a look at the source code of this web page and it is
clear that they must be using java or some scripting process to call each of
the columns in turn as a web page link  from somewhere else in the web site.



This means that they are painting the columns side by side on the screen but
in the html code the contents are coming in sequentially. That explains why
NVDA cannot make it into a table for love or money!


All the best,

Cearbhall

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...



So, they must be painting nine lines from oen page. Placing a tab control,
then bringing in the next one and so on
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-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jacob
Kruger
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2016 8:46 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Reading tabs on web page

Cearbhall, might not help much, but, under NVDA preferences, brows3e mode,
toggle layout tables on/off, and see if that at least makes NVDA recognise
this table as a table, etc.


Stay we



Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2016-10-21 11:29 AM, Cearbhall O'Meadhra wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I would like some help to read a web page where information is set out
> visually in tables by using tabs rather than a table structure. I need
> to read it in columns but NVDA does not find a column and just reads
> each column entry line by line. Has anyone any experience overcoming this?
>
> Here is the offending page if you would like to have a go and see what
> you can do.
> https://tollfreeforwarding.com/content/rates.html#
>
> The tabular area begins with the words:
>   "Starter
>   Business
>   Enterprise"
> In fact, these three words are three of the column headings that I am
> trying to read. As you can see, they simply appear to be lines one
> below the other instead of a table row.
>
> I really hope you can help. I do intend to speak to the developer but,
> meanwhile, I have to have the information!
>
>
> All the best,
>
> Cearbhall
>
> m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e:
> cearbhall.omeadhra@...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

On Oct 22, 2016, at 8:35 AM, brennenkinch@gmail.com wrote:

What is add where

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 22, 2016, at 4:30 AM, Георги Ламбов <obichamlegiona@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi!

I don't find it's difficult to uninstall readon tv movie radio player. I did it before because I couldn't find way to work with the program.

About finding the stations. After you've fount

the country you continue with tab and you find the list of genres of the proposed stations and with one more tab: the stations alone.
Georgi
На 22.10.2016 г. в 07:31 ч., Ron Canazzi написа:

Hi Group,


Also if you use the Readon player, be careful about add ware and the inability to remove it. I had to get a special removal tool to get rid of it.

On 10/21/2016 10:14 PM, brennenkinch@gmail.com wrote:
Hi i have to questions about the Readon TV Movie Radio Player program 1 how do i find a tv show when i select a country and a genre and 2 the tvu player and the sopcast player plugins are not working do i need them for this program and if i do how can i get them to work thanks for any help

Sent from my iPhone

Jacob,

Nice try! However, I'm afraid it didn't work. What does that setting do
anywhay?

By the way, did you see my email from last night? In case not, I was
pointing out that I had a look at the source code of this web page and it is
clear that they must be using java or some scripting process to call each of
the columns in turn as a web page link from somewhere else in the web site.



This means that they are painting the columns side by side on the screen but
in the html code the contents are coming in sequentially. That explains why
NVDA cannot make it into a table for love or money!


All the best,

Cearbhall

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@blbc.ie



So, they must be painting nine lines from oen page. Placing a tab control,
then bringing in the next one and so on
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-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jacob
Kruger
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2016 8:46 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Reading tabs on web page

Cearbhall, might not help much, but, under NVDA preferences, brows3e mode,
toggle layout tables on/off, and see if that at least makes NVDA recognise
this table as a table, etc.


Stay we



Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2016-10-21 11:29 AM, Cearbhall O'Meadhra wrote:

Hi,

I would like some help to read a web page where information is set out
visually in tables by using tabs rather than a table structure. I need
to read it in columns but NVDA does not find a column and just reads
each column entry line by line. Has anyone any experience overcoming this?

Here is the offending page if you would like to have a go and see what
you can do.
https://tollfreeforwarding.com/content/rates.html#

The tabular area begins with the words:
"Starter
Business
Enterprise"
In fact, these three words are three of the column headings that I am
trying to read. As you can see, they simply appear to be lines one
below the other instead of a table row.

I really hope you can help. I do intend to speak to the developer but,
meanwhile, I have to have the information!


All the best,

Cearbhall

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e:
cearbhall.omeadhra@blbc.ie

On Oct 22, 2016, at 4:30 AM, Георги Ламбов <obichamlegiona@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi!

I don't find it's difficult to uninstall readon tv movie radio player. I did it before because I couldn't find way to work with the program.

About finding the stations. After you've fount

the country you continue with tab and you find the list of genres of the proposed stations and with one more tab: the stations alone.
Georgi
На 22.10.2016 г. в 07:31 ч., Ron Canazzi написа:

Hi Group,


Also if you use the Readon player, be careful about add ware and the inability to remove it. I had to get a special removal tool to get rid of it.

On 10/21/2016 10:14 PM, brennenkinch@gmail.com wrote:
Hi i have to questions about the Readon TV Movie Radio Player program 1 how do i find a tv show when i select a country and a genre and 2 the tvu player and the sopcast player plugins are not working do i need them for this program and if i do how can i get them to work thanks for any help

Sent from my iPhone