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Re: Mac users with NVDA?

Arlene
 

No, I’m afraid not. The Mac has it’s own screen reader called Voiceover.  NVDA is only used for windows and windows tablets.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of N K Shackelford
Sent: February-28-17 9:48 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Mac users with NVDA?

 

Can a Mac user access one's Mac computer using NVDA? I have a couple of friends who have a Mac, and one has "Snowlepard."  Not familiar with it, but I was suggesting that he get NVDA. I decided I'd better ask about this in case one cannot use NVDA with a Mac.

 

Thanks,

 

Nance

    

                


Re: offtopic: please sign the petition: Telegram should be accessible for visually impaired

Dejan Ristic
 

Friends,


I've just signed the petition! I'm supporting you. Whatever is supposed to be signed, set it before me, and I'll push on. Our rights are not supposed to be denied us.

On 3/1/2017 10:08 PM, Simone Dal Maso wrote:
https://www.change.org/p/telegram-should-be-accessible-for-visually-impaired

2017-03-01 22:02 GMT+01:00, Robert Kingett <kingettr@gmail.com>:
Can someone send me the link again?




Re: offtopic: please sign the petition: Telegram should be accessible for visually impaired

Simone Dal Maso
 

https://www.change.org/p/telegram-should-be-accessible-for-visually-impaired

2017-03-01 22:02 GMT+01:00, Robert Kingett <kingettr@gmail.com>:

Can someone send me the link again?



--
Simone Dal Maso
www.nvapple.it
www.nvda.it


Re: offtopic: please sign the petition: Telegram should be accessible for visually impaired

 

Can someone send me the link again?


Re: offtopic: please sign the petition: Telegram should be accessible for visually impaired

Rui Fontes
 

Hello!

Someone have already tested some alternative app to Telegram?

Rui


-----Mensagem Original-----
De: Mohammadreza Rashad
Data: 1 de março de 2017 18:34
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: Re: [nvda] offtopic: please sign the petition: Telegram should be accessible for visually impaired

Dear Simone,
Thanks for sharing this petition link. I myself signed the petition as
one of the first hundred signers; and now it has 444 supporters.
Dear Ollie, as Simone said, Telegram is a frequently used messenger in
our country, Iran. Our government and governmental and
non-governmental organizations, from our radio-television broadcaster,
to my son's school staff use Telegram for their announcements.
Unfortunately, we have to use Telegram.
I also as my part, spreaded the link via Whatsapp and sent it to our
blind-specific weblogs and websites.
again, thank you Simone, and thanks to Ollie, Robert and Mario to sign
the petition.
Best Wishes,
Mohammadreza Rashad, Karaj, Iran


Re: offtopic: please sign the petition: Telegram should be accessible for visually impaired

Mallard
 

Hello,



Yes, I understand the problem, and therefore I've shared the link among my sighted friends too, asking to sign. Let's hope the devs will reconsider their previous stand, and do something about Telegram...


Ciao,
Ollie

Il 01/03/2017 19:34, Mohammadreza Rashad ha scritto:
Dear Simone,
Thanks for sharing this petition link. I myself signed the petition as
one of the first hundred signers; and now it has 444 supporters.
Dear Ollie, as Simone said, Telegram is a frequently used messenger in
our country, Iran. Our government and governmental and
non-governmental organizations, from our radio-television broadcaster,
to my son's school staff use Telegram for their announcements.
Unfortunately, we have to use Telegram.
I also as my part, spreaded the link via Whatsapp and sent it to our
blind-specific weblogs and websites.
again, thank you Simone, and thanks to Ollie, Robert and Mario to sign
the petition.
Best Wishes,
Mohammadreza Rashad, Karaj, Iran



Re: Mac users with NVDA?

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

The mac OS has everything different in that nvda uses types of accessible interfaces only found in real Windows, Mac and Linux and others have their own ways of doing things and hence it has completely different screenreaders to interface with them.
Brian

bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.

----- Original Message -----
From: "N K Shackelford" <nance62lady@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2017 6:50 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Mac users with NVDA?


Thanks very much. I'm glad to know this. I'm totally unfamiliar with
anything Mac or Apple.
Nance

On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 12:14 AM, Armando Maldonado <
armando.maldonado0767@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello, the Mac has its own built-in screen reader called Voiceover. Unless
the individual uses either a virtual machine to run Windows, or boot camps
his/her mac and loads Windows, NVDA cannot be used. Hope this helps.

Armando

On 2/28/2017 9:48 PM, N K Shackelford wrote:

Can a Mac user access one's Mac computer using NVDA? I have a couple of
friends who have a Mac, and one has "Snowlepard." Not familiar with it,
but I was suggesting that he get NVDA. I decided I'd better ask about this
in case one cannot use NVDA with a Mac.


Thanks,


Nance









--
N K Shackelford
--Walk on faith and trust in love - Michael Reed--


Re: Mac users with NVDA?

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

No unless they are using windows on the machine that is.
Brian

bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.

----- Original Message -----
From: "N K Shackelford" <nance62lady@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2017 5:48 AM
Subject: [nvda] Mac users with NVDA?


Can a Mac user access one's Mac computer using NVDA? I have a couple of friends who have a Mac, and one has "Snowlepard." Not familiar with it, but I was suggesting that he get NVDA. I decided I'd better ask about this in case one cannot use NVDA with a Mac.

Thanks,

Nance


Re: offtopic: please sign the petition: Telegram should be accessible for visually impaired

Mohammadreza Rashad
 

Dear Simone,
Thanks for sharing this petition link. I myself signed the petition as
one of the first hundred signers; and now it has 444 supporters.
Dear Ollie, as Simone said, Telegram is a frequently used messenger in
our country, Iran. Our government and governmental and
non-governmental organizations, from our radio-television broadcaster,
to my son's school staff use Telegram for their announcements.
Unfortunately, we have to use Telegram.
I also as my part, spreaded the link via Whatsapp and sent it to our
blind-specific weblogs and websites.
again, thank you Simone, and thanks to Ollie, Robert and Mario to sign
the petition.
Best Wishes,
Mohammadreza Rashad, Karaj, Iran


Re: Mac users with NVDA?

Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...>
 


That doesn't mean however that a mac cannot be used by a blind person.
 
I do it every single day in my job with my audio production work, and encourage anyone who would like to know more to write me off list.
 
 
Chris.
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2017 1:14 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Mac users with NVDA?

Hello, the Mac has its own built-in screen reader called Voiceover. Unless the individual uses either a virtual machine to run Windows, or boot camps his/her mac and loads Windows, NVDA cannot be used. Hope this helps.

Armando


On 2/28/2017 9:48 PM, N K Shackelford wrote:

Can a Mac user access one's Mac computer using NVDA? I have a couple of friends who have a Mac, and one has "Snowlepard."  Not familiar with it, but I was suggesting that he get NVDA. I decided I'd better ask about this in case one cannot use NVDA with a Mac.


Thanks,


Nance

    

                



Re: Mac users with NVDA?

Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...>
 


Yikes! Snowleopard? That's pretty dang old!
 
Absolutely not! There is a built in screen reader called Voiceover which needs to be used, and is 1? hundred! percent accessible.
 
I'm actually primarily a mac user myself, and even train people on the use of the Mac.
 
Get with me off list if you'd like some more clarification.
 
 
Chris.
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2017 12:48 AM
Subject: [nvda] Mac users with NVDA?

Can a Mac user access one's Mac computer using NVDA? I have a couple of friends who have a Mac, and one has "Snowlepard."  Not familiar with it, but I was suggesting that he get NVDA. I decided I'd better ask about this in case one cannot use NVDA with a Mac.


Thanks,


Nance

    

                


Re: offtopic: please sign the petition: Telegram should be accessible for visually impaired

Mário Navarro
 

I already did my part.
cheers.


Às 13:14 de 01/03/2017, Mallard escreveu:

Simone,


You're absolutely right in that respect. I signed the petition, because I think it's a duty that we have to always do our part, but those devs are more than blind... They're daft!

Ciao,

Ollie





Il 01/03/2017 12:09, Simone Dal Maso ha scritto:
Ollie,
try to say this to iranian people, where Telegram is the most used app
in their country.
Their government use telegram to communicate and give announces to
people; blind teachers can't communicate or participate with their
student or other teachers just because all of them use Telegram.
So I think that, als if developers are blind in the figurative sense
of the word, we should try.

2017-02-28 15:43 GMT+01:00, Mallard <mallard@kimabe.eu>:
Yes, I wrote to them a couple of years ago, and the answer sounded more
or less like "we can't be bothered".


I wouldn't waste my time with devs likethose.

If you want a fair alternative to Whatsapp, try Signal.


When I last used it, it was very accessible. It's a lot more private,
and Whatsapp themselves use the encryption system developed by the devs
of Signal...


If Telegram can't be bothered with us, why bother with them?

Ciao,

Ollie





Il 28/02/2017 15:39, Robert Kingett ha scritto:
I signed and shared this but the developers have said, repeatedly,
that they do not want to make this program accessible to the blind.








Re: offtopic: please sign the petition: Telegram should be accessible for visually impaired

Mallard
 

Simone,


You're absolutely right in that respect. I signed the petition, because I think it's a duty that we have to always do our part, but those devs are more than blind... They're daft!

Ciao,

Ollie

Il 01/03/2017 12:09, Simone Dal Maso ha scritto:
Ollie,
try to say this to iranian people, where Telegram is the most used app
in their country.
Their government use telegram to communicate and give announces to
people; blind teachers can't communicate or participate with their
student or other teachers just because all of them use Telegram.
So I think that, als if developers are blind in the figurative sense
of the word, we should try.

2017-02-28 15:43 GMT+01:00, Mallard <mallard@kimabe.eu>:
Yes, I wrote to them a couple of years ago, and the answer sounded more
or less like "we can't be bothered".


I wouldn't waste my time with devs likethose.

If you want a fair alternative to Whatsapp, try Signal.


When I last used it, it was very accessible. It's a lot more private,
and Whatsapp themselves use the encryption system developed by the devs
of Signal...


If Telegram can't be bothered with us, why bother with them?

Ciao,

Ollie





Il 28/02/2017 15:39, Robert Kingett ha scritto:
I signed and shared this but the developers have said, repeatedly,
that they do not want to make this program accessible to the blind.






Re: offtopic: please sign the petition: Telegram should be accessible for visually impaired

Simone Dal Maso
 

Ollie,
try to say this to iranian people, where Telegram is the most used app
in their country.
Their government use telegram to communicate and give announces to
people; blind teachers can't communicate or participate with their
student or other teachers just because all of them use Telegram.
So I think that, als if developers are blind in the figurative sense
of the word, we should try.

2017-02-28 15:43 GMT+01:00, Mallard <mallard@kimabe.eu>:

Yes, I wrote to them a couple of years ago, and the answer sounded more
or less like "we can't be bothered".


I wouldn't waste my time with devs likethose.

If you want a fair alternative to Whatsapp, try Signal.


When I last used it, it was very accessible. It's a lot more private,
and Whatsapp themselves use the encryption system developed by the devs
of Signal...


If Telegram can't be bothered with us, why bother with them?

Ciao,

Ollie





Il 28/02/2017 15:39, Robert Kingett ha scritto:
I signed and shared this but the developers have said, repeatedly,
that they do not want to make this program accessible to the blind.






--
Simone Dal Maso
www.nvapple.it
www.nvda.it


Re: Headers in Microsoft Word

Christo Vorster
 

Hi Simon

Contact me off list and I'll probably be able to send you a rather complete list.

My address is:

Christo.vorster@pioneerschool.org.za

Regards

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Simon Jaeger
Sent: Tuesday, 28 February 2017 5:49 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Headers in Microsoft Word

Hi,

Thanks for this. I do wish those old shortcuts were still documented somewhere. I'll give that a try next time I create a few of them.


Simon



On 2017-02-28 3:04, Christo Vorster wrote:
Hi Simon

I use the Office 2003 command, ALT+V and then H to read my headers. There might be other shortcuts that work, but for me this is the one I prefer.

Cheers

Christo Vorster (Worcester, South Africa)

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Simon Jaeger
Sent: Saturday, 25 February 2017 8:05 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Headers in Microsoft Word

hi,

Any idea how I can read these? Seems like a stupid thing to install a 40 minute JAWS demo for.


Simon









Re: Using Adobe Digital Edition Reader with NVDA

Mallard
 

Hello Amber,


That's pretty strange. I do use Adobe Digital Editions to read both epub and pdf books, and I do see the book content all along.


The only unpleasant side to it is that, although it keeps notifying the presence of links, clicking on them doesn't take me to the relevant position in the book.


What format is the book you're trying to read?


What version of Windows and of Adobe Digital are you running?


You can contact me off-list if you wish, so we don't clutter this list with back and forth messages.


We can then report back when we manage to solve the issue.


Ciao, hth,

Ollie

Il 28/02/2017 18:03, Amber Pearcy ha scritto:
Hi all,

One of my textbooks is an Adobe Digital Edition, and it seems that I have to use Adobe's Digital Edition reader to access it. I can see the table of contents, but I can't access anything beyond that. If anyone has any suggestions, please let me know. I am getting further behind with each day that I cannot figure this app out! :(

Best,
Amber

Sent from my iPhone


Re: Mac users with NVDA?

N K Shackelford <nance62lady@...>
 

Thanks very much. I'm glad to know this. I'm totally unfamiliar with anything Mac or Apple.
Nance

On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 12:14 AM, Armando Maldonado <armando.maldonado0767@...> wrote:

Hello, the Mac has its own built-in screen reader called Voiceover. Unless the individual uses either a virtual machine to run Windows, or boot camps his/her mac and loads Windows, NVDA cannot be used. Hope this helps.

Armando


On 2/28/2017 9:48 PM, N K Shackelford wrote:

Can a Mac user access one's Mac computer using NVDA? I have a couple of friends who have a Mac, and one has "Snowlepard."  Not familiar with it, but I was suggesting that he get NVDA. I decided I'd better ask about this in case one cannot use NVDA with a Mac.


Thanks,


Nance

    

                





--
N K Shackelford
--Walk on faith and trust in love - Michael Reed--


Re: Mac users with NVDA?

Armando Maldonado
 

Hello, the Mac has its own built-in screen reader called Voiceover. Unless the individual uses either a virtual machine to run Windows, or boot camps his/her mac and loads Windows, NVDA cannot be used. Hope this helps.

Armando


On 2/28/2017 9:48 PM, N K Shackelford wrote:

Can a Mac user access one's Mac computer using NVDA? I have a couple of friends who have a Mac, and one has "Snowlepard."  Not familiar with it, but I was suggesting that he get NVDA. I decided I'd better ask about this in case one cannot use NVDA with a Mac.


Thanks,


Nance

    

                



Mac users with NVDA?

N K Shackelford <nance62lady@...>
 

Can a Mac user access one's Mac computer using NVDA? I have a couple of friends who have a Mac, and one has "Snowlepard."  Not familiar with it, but I was suggesting that he get NVDA. I decided I'd better ask about this in case one cannot use NVDA with a Mac.


Thanks,


Nance

    

                


Re: Strange issues with Edge and latest NVDA

Alexander Masic
 

Hi. I use FF as my default browser. But in I would like to se an accessible Edge. It's good to could chooze browsers even if you are blind.




Den 2017-03-01 kl. 03:00, skrev Robert Mendoza:

I rarely used Microsoft Edge as my browser to my Windows 10 machine. I may suggest to try other browsers instead like Firefox, Google Chrome or the like that suits your needs specially in trying to login or using the mobile site of facebook.

Robert Mendoza

On 3/1/2017 9:19 AM, Alexander Masic wrote:
Hi. I am running latest developer build of windows, and latest nvda. updated all nesseseary adon and so. When i opend m.facebook.com, it looks like this on each status updates.

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Unesseseary, this is Swedish and means (more options) but it is presended in a very strange way. In FF everything looks ok. Dont know who may be responcible, so I just want to mantion that it looks like this. and i will also report this till Microsoft.