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Re: NVDA and express vpn

Lenron
 

I just wish these companies wanted to make the apps accessible. I have
emailed and chatted with support from express VPN but got nowhere.

On 1/15/20, Mobeen Iqbal <mobeeniqbal@...> wrote:
I never use the bundled VPN apps as they can be rendered inaccessible
with software updates. If you use windows built in VPN client or open
VPN which most if not all VPN's support these days, you will be fine as
both approaches are accessible.

Cheers,

Mo.


On 15/01/2020 15:25, Giles Turnbull wrote:
I used Express VPN for the year between September 2018 and 2019 while
I was living in a uni hall of residence so wanted to minimise any
potential wifi snooping.

I found Express VPN very hard to use with NVDA. I figured out which
button to press to turn the VPN on (none of the buttons are spoken as
anything other than "button") and I could hear the label next to the
switch network .... but it never gave me any alternative VPN networks
other than the one it was connected to ... maybe it did list other
networks but didn't speak them ... whatever the reason Express VPN
worked as far as connecting to one single VPN network, but nothing at
all more than that.

I haven't tried using a VPN since the Express VPN experience, but do
read any posts about them on here in case something easy to use does
get suggested :)

Giles


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Re: How does One Know What Version of nvda we are running?

Chris
 

If you press nvda key+N

Arrow down to help

Then arrow up to about and press enter

The version info is there

 

 

From: Martin McCormick
Sent: 16 January 2020 14:39
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] How does One Know What Version of nvda we are running?

 

The Subject is the message.  Thank you.

 

Martin McCormick

 

 

 

Re: How does One Know What Version of nvda we are running?

Jackie
 

NVDA key+n > help > about.

On 1/16/20, Martin McCormick <martin.m@...> wrote:
The Subject is the message. Thank you.

Martin McCormick



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Re: Accessible password managers, again.

Angelo Sonnesso
 

Last Pass works across all platforms.

 

73 N2DYN Angelo

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christopher Pross
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2020 3:06 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible password managers, again.

 

Hey,

If I use keepass and want to sync my passwords across different devices, I have to rember two passwords. One for the database (Masterpassword) and one for the cloudprovider, right?

And so far as I know, is there no mobile app, which support 2fa.

 

At the moment I use lastpass. I am writing also a nvda add-on for the windows application 

Von meinem iPhone gesendet

Re: Unread/Read Status of Messages Broken In Thunderbird With 2019.3 Beta 2

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Clive,

For me, NVDA used to show numbers of unread messages in the tree view of folders when you arrowed over them.  With release of 2019.3 beta 2, this no longer works for me.  Many others are not having this problem, so there must be something going on with my system.

On 1/16/2020 6:44 AM, Clive Lever wrote:
Sorry if this has been covered before, but I notice that when I'm reading the list of folders in my inbox (Outlook, Office 365), in Jaws, it tells me how many unread messages there are in the folder. NVDA doesn't do this, to my knowledge. If it can say the total number of unread messages the way Jaws does, please can someone tell me how to make it do so? It's particularly useful when, say, I come back from holiday to hundreds of messages, as it tells me when the backlog is cleared.

Thanks,
Clive



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ralf Kefferpuetz
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2020 7:41 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Unread/Read Status of Messages Broken In Thunderbird With 2019.3 Beta 2

I'm on 68.3.1 with NVDA 2019.3 beta 2 and all message flags are read as usual.

Cheers,
Ralf

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ron Canazzi
Sent: Donnerstag, 16. Januar 2020 01:13
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Unread/Read Status of Messages Broken In Thunderbird With 2019.3 Beta 2

The last version of Thunderbird that reads the status line and the read/unread status of messages properly is 60.9 or 60 something.


On 1/15/2020 1:06 PM, John Isige wrote:
I just downloaded NVDA 2019.3beta2 and told it to continue running. I'm
running Thunderbird 60.9.1, 32-bit if it matters. Message statuses work
fine for me with up and down arrows, I didn't even have to close and
restart Thunderbird. What do you mean by saying "last fully compatible
version"? What's broken? I admit I use Thunderbird pretty minimally, but
everything seems fine to me.


On 1/15/2020 9:56, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Group,

For some reason, when I installed 2019.3 beta 2, when I read the
status line and/or navigate with up/down arrow keys, the read/unread
status of message is inconsistent or incorrect.

I wonder if anyone else is experiencing this issue. I am using
Thunderbird 60.4--the last fully compatible version of Thunderbird.

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Re: Accessible password managers, again.

Christopher Pross
 

Hey,
If I use keepass and want to sync my passwords across different devices, I have to rember two passwords. One for the database (Masterpassword) and one for the cloudprovider, right?
And so far as I know, is there no mobile app, which support 2fa.
 
At the moment I use lastpass. I am writing also a nvda add-on for the windows application 

Von meinem iPhone gesendet

How does One Know What Version of nvda we are running?

Martin McCormick
 

The Subject is the message. Thank you.

Martin McCormick

Re: screen search

Chikodinaka mr. Oguledo
 

I need the add on link please jeen

On 1/16/20, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
A screen search is using something such as in JAWS, the JAWS cursor to
search the current screen. NVDA has no way to do this without using an
add-on, but there is an add-on that allows you to virtualize the current
window and thus, search the screen using the NVDA search command, control
NVDA key f in desktop layout. I don't know the laptop layout.

I don't know the answer to the original question. I played with the add-on
briefly and I didn't see such an option, but also, I wasn't looking, though
I doubt it's there. I would suggest keeping a record in something like
Notepad of previous search strings. You may have to type them manually
there, but that may be the only way to do what you want to do.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: hurrikennyandopo ...
Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2020 10:35 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] screen search


Hi




What do you mean by screen search.




You do not mean like do a search of a web page?




If that is the case use the nvda key + ctrl key + the letter f when the
dialogue box comes up enter in your search term. there is also a combo box
that will tell you your last 20 searches etc Can not remember if they can be
saved?




Gene nz




On 16/01/2020 12:02 pm, Darren Harris via Groups.Io wrote:

Hi all,



Is there a way of using nvda to do a screen search whereby you can also
store multiple search strings so you can access them at any given time?




Re: NVDA 2019.3 beta 2 now available

Chikodinaka mr. Oguledo
 

I need the link 2the new NVDA release. I have addOns to downlode & update

On 1/16/20, Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@...> wrote:
Please, go to:
%appdata%\vocalizer-for-nvda
and delete the activation.dat file.
Restart NVDA and reactivate the license.

Any problem, contact for:
rui.fontes@...

Rui Fontes
Tiflotecnia, Lda.

Greg Wocher <gwocher@...> escreveu no dia quinta, 16/01/2020 à(s)
11:48:

Hello,
I am still having issues with the vocalizer expressive driver. I am using
this version and every time I restart NVDA it tells me that my vocalizer
expressive license cannot be verified. I am running NVDA 2019.3 beta 2.

Greg Wocher


On Jan 15, 2020, at 7:45 PM, Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@...>
wrote:

Hello!
Sorry by the delay, but my PC died...

The direct link is:

https://www.tiflotecnia.net/Instal/vocalizer_expressive_driver-3.1.0.nvda-addon

Best regards,

Rui Fontes
Tiflotecnia, Lda.

Andrea Sherry <sherryan@...> escreveu no dia quarta,
15/01/2020 à(s) 02:51:

Well where can I find the expressive driver to run with the latest beta?
Andreqa

On 15/01/2020 10:40 am, Quentin Christensen wrote:
Hi everyone,

NVDA 2019.3 beta 2 is now available for testing.

This update adds a few new features and fixes from beta 1 including:

- The new Windows console support using UI Automation is no longer
used by default as it is not yet ready for production use. However, it
is still available from NVDA’s advance settings panel. (#10684)
- NVDA no longer freezes in the new version of Microsoft Edge that is
based on Chromium. (#10675)
- A short sound is now optionally played when screen curtain is turned
on or off. (#10611)
- Fixed an issue when upgrading configuration from recent alpha
builds. (#10598)
- Fixed an issue when navigating lists with table navigation commands.
(#10623)

For all the details and to download the new beta, please visit:
https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2019-3beta2-now-available-for-testing/

As always, please do report any issues or bugs you encounter.

Kind regards

Quentin.

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Re: NVDA 2019.3 beta 2 now available

Rui Fontes
 

Please, go to:
%appdata%\vocalizer-for-nvda
and delete the activation.dat file.
Restart NVDA and reactivate the license.

Any problem, contact for:

Rui Fontes
Tiflotecnia, Lda.

Greg Wocher <gwocher@...> escreveu no dia quinta, 16/01/2020 à(s) 11:48:

Hello,
I am still having issues with the vocalizer expressive driver. I am using this version and every time I restart NVDA it tells me that my vocalizer expressive license cannot be verified. I am running NVDA 2019.3 beta 2.

Greg Wocher


On Jan 15, 2020, at 7:45 PM, Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@...> wrote:

Hello!
Sorry by the delay, but my PC died...

The direct link is:

Best regards,

Rui Fontes
Tiflotecnia, Lda.

Andrea Sherry <sherryan@...> escreveu no dia quarta, 15/01/2020 à(s) 02:51:
Well where can I find the expressive driver to run with the latest beta?
Andreqa

On 15/01/2020 10:40 am, Quentin Christensen wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> NVDA 2019.3 beta 2 is now available for testing.
>
> This update adds a few new features and fixes from beta 1 including:
>
> - The new Windows console support using UI Automation is no longer
> used by default as it is not yet ready for production use. However, it
> is still available from NVDA’s advance settings panel. (#10684)
> - NVDA no longer freezes in the new version of Microsoft Edge that is
> based on Chromium. (#10675)
> - A short sound is now optionally played when screen curtain is turned
> on or off. (#10611)
> - Fixed an issue when upgrading configuration from recent alpha
> builds. (#10598)
> - Fixed an issue when navigating lists with table navigation commands.
> (#10623)
>
> For all the details and to download the new beta, please visit:
> https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2019-3beta2-now-available-for-testing/
>
> As always, please do report any issues or bugs you encounter.
>
> Kind regards
>
> Quentin.
>
> --
>
> Quentin Christensen
> Training and Support Manager
>
> Web: www.nvaccess.org <http://www.nvaccess.org/>
> Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
> Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/
> User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda
> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
> Twitter: @NVAccess <https://twitter.com/NVAccess>
>





Re: Dropbox interfering with NVDA when reading Word files

David Griffith
 

 

I copy below the email I sent earlier to the list

 

Not at all stupid Clive.

 

First of all

Windows plus B to get to the notification area / system tray.

If you hear notification chevron you should press space on that to open up all your system tray icons to view. You can change settings so that your icons

all show all the time but I will give instructions for that in another email if needed.

Now cursor left or right until you hear DropBox. If for whatever reason you miss this and hear notification chevron again then press space on this to make

sure all your icons are showing.

As soon as you hear DropBox press the space bar.

This should open up the context menu in DropBox’s case – it does on my system.

From this menu select preferences.

Tab down to the section where it talks about badges and set this to never show and your problems with opening Office documents should disappear.

 

N.>B. 

A regrettable feature of the system tray in Windows is that the key to open up the context menu varies. Sometimes it is enter, sometimes it is space

as in this case and sometimes it is the application key. You need to experiment with each icon to see what works.

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sam Bushman
Sent: 16 January 2020 00:12
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Dropbox interfering with NVDA when reading Word files

 

Please let us know what solved the problem?

I don’t see the fix below in this thread.

Thank you,

Sam

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Abbie Taylor
Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2020 5:05 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Dropbox interfering with NVDA when reading Word files

 

David, this seems to have solved the problem for me. Thanks.
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Re: NVDA 2019.3 beta 2 now available

Greg Wocher
 

Hello,
I am still having issues with the vocalizer expressive driver. I am using this version and every time I restart NVDA it tells me that my vocalizer expressive license cannot be verified. I am running NVDA 2019.3 beta 2.

Greg Wocher


On Jan 15, 2020, at 7:45 PM, Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@...> wrote:

Hello!
Sorry by the delay, but my PC died...

The direct link is:

Best regards,

Rui Fontes
Tiflotecnia, Lda.

Andrea Sherry <sherryan@...> escreveu no dia quarta, 15/01/2020 à(s) 02:51:
Well where can I find the expressive driver to run with the latest beta?
Andreqa

On 15/01/2020 10:40 am, Quentin Christensen wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> NVDA 2019.3 beta 2 is now available for testing.
>
> This update adds a few new features and fixes from beta 1 including:
>
> - The new Windows console support using UI Automation is no longer
> used by default as it is not yet ready for production use. However, it
> is still available from NVDA’s advance settings panel. (#10684)
> - NVDA no longer freezes in the new version of Microsoft Edge that is
> based on Chromium. (#10675)
> - A short sound is now optionally played when screen curtain is turned
> on or off. (#10611)
> - Fixed an issue when upgrading configuration from recent alpha
> builds. (#10598)
> - Fixed an issue when navigating lists with table navigation commands.
> (#10623)
>
> For all the details and to download the new beta, please visit:
> https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2019-3beta2-now-available-for-testing/
>
> As always, please do report any issues or bugs you encounter.
>
> Kind regards
>
> Quentin.
>
> --
>
> Quentin Christensen
> Training and Support Manager
>
> Web: www.nvaccess.org <http://www.nvaccess.org/>
> Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
> Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/
> User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda
> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
> Twitter: @NVAccess <https://twitter.com/NVAccess>
>





Re: Unread/Read Status of Messages Broken In Thunderbird With 2019.3 Beta 2

Clive Lever
 

Sorry if this has been covered before, but I notice that when I'm reading the list of folders in my inbox (Outlook, Office 365), in Jaws, it tells me how many unread messages there are in the folder. NVDA doesn't do this, to my knowledge. If it can say the total number of unread messages the way Jaws does, please can someone tell me how to make it do so? It's particularly useful when, say, I come back from holiday to hundreds of messages, as it tells me when the backlog is cleared.

Thanks,
Clive

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ralf Kefferpuetz
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2020 7:41 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Unread/Read Status of Messages Broken In Thunderbird With 2019.3 Beta 2

I'm on 68.3.1 with NVDA 2019.3 beta 2 and all message flags are read as usual.

Cheers,
Ralf

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ron Canazzi
Sent: Donnerstag, 16. Januar 2020 01:13
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Unread/Read Status of Messages Broken In Thunderbird With 2019.3 Beta 2

The last version of Thunderbird that reads the status line and the read/unread status of messages properly is 60.9 or 60 something.


On 1/15/2020 1:06 PM, John Isige wrote:
I just downloaded NVDA 2019.3beta2 and told it to continue running. I'm
running Thunderbird 60.9.1, 32-bit if it matters. Message statuses work
fine for me with up and down arrows, I didn't even have to close and
restart Thunderbird. What do you mean by saying "last fully compatible
version"? What's broken? I admit I use Thunderbird pretty minimally, but
everything seems fine to me.


On 1/15/2020 9:56, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Group,

For some reason, when I installed 2019.3 beta 2, when I read the
status line and/or navigate with up/down arrow keys, the read/unread
status of message is inconsistent or incorrect.

I wonder if anyone else is experiencing this issue. I am using
Thunderbird 60.4--the last fully compatible version of Thunderbird.


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Re: Accessible text expantion tools.

 

There is no fully accessible text expansion tool that will cover the whole OS. I've been looking for years, and it seems like none exists. The closest thing you will get is buying NCH's FastFox expansion software. But even that is not fully accessible.

Of course, you could always use autocorrect in Microsoft Word, cut, and copy the text, but I'd like one that works universally, myself and is fully accessible. Sadly, no fully accessible option exists.

Accessible text expantion tools.

Ali Colak
 

Hello everyone,
Are their any text expantion tools accessible with NVDA? I've just
tried one called Phraise express, and while it is somewhat usable it
is not completely accessible. I know of some more options but I
thought I'd ask if anyone here had something to recommend.

Thanks
ALi

Re: screen search

Gene
 

A screen search is using something such as in JAWS, the JAWS cursor to search the current screen.  NVDA has no way to do this without using an add-on, but there is an add-on that allows you to virtualize the current window and thus, search the screen using the NVDA search command, control NVDA key f in desktop layout.  I don't know the laptop layout. 
 
I don't know the answer to the original question.  I played with the add-on briefly and I didn't see such an option, but also, I wasn't looking, though I doubt it's there.  I would suggest keeping a record in something like Notepad of previous search strings.  You may have to type them manually there, but that may be the only way to do what you want to do.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2020 10:35 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] screen search

Hi


What do you mean by screen search.


You do not mean like do a search of a web page?


If that is the case use the nvda key + ctrl key + the letter f when the dialogue box comes up enter in your search term. there is also a combo box that will tell you your last 20 searches etc Can not remember if they can be saved?


Gene nz


On 16/01/2020 12:02 pm, Darren Harris via Groups.Io wrote:

Hi all,

 

Is there a way of using nvda to do a screen search whereby you can also store multiple search strings so you can access them at any given time?

In-Process is out

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi everyone,

The first In-Process for the year is here!

Featuring news on NVDA 2019.3 beta2, who should update and lots more, get it first here: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/in-process-16th-january/

Quentin.
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Re: new beta2

Quentin Christensen
 

In fairness, it's not a stable update yet so users on 2019.2.1 won't see it when they have NVDA check for updates.  You'll only find it that way if you were on Beta 1.

And just for the record btw, beta 1 will update to beta 2, then any subsequent betas, then Release Candidate 1, and any subsequent release candidates.  Finally any of those builds will update to NVDA 2019.3.  That way anyone testing out the beta or release candidate builds, doesn't need to specifically move back to the stable channel.

Regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 5:29 PM Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...> wrote:
Yes, there is an update. Pay more attention and you'll see it.



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of anthony
borg
Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2020 9:57 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] new beta2

I already did that but there isn't any updates yet.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rosemarie
Chavarria
Sent: 15 January 2020 23:59
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] new beta2

You can go to the NVDA help menu and arrow down to "check for updates". Then
follow the prompts.



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of anthony
borg
Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2020 11:02 AM
To: Anthony Borg <anthonyborg001@...>
Subject: [nvda] new beta2

Hi folks can
Can anyone tell me from wher I can download the newbeta2 please?
Thanks in advancee

Anthony

















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Re: website

Rayn Darren
 

Apologies for missing the OP here... Kerryn, if you need help building, gimme a shout :)

Sarah

On 1/15/2020 10:21 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
Hi Kerryn,

We would request you please link to NV Access to download, because if you
link to https://www.nvaccess.org/download/ the user will always get the
current version.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 7:31 AM Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io <k_gunness=
yahoo.ca@groups.io> wrote:

guys
i want to build a website, i want to use nvda download links for
link for downloading nvda
and the link for the official nvda add on site

can i do this?



Re: Alternatives to Excel

Luke Davis
 

I used Open Office Calc (their version of Excel) for years with quite a bit of success with NVDA.

People say that LibreOffice is better now, and I can not comment on that since I haven't used it, but OOo was fine for my spreadsheet needs for a very long time.
I never had problems opening spreadsheets from other sources.

Without knowing more about how you use spreadsheets, it's hard to say whether what you want to do can be done accessibly, but the nice thing is that their both free, so you can play with each.

Because I needed better word processing, I bought a recycled office 2019 key early last year for around $25, but if spreadsheets were my only concern, I would have remained with OpenOffice.

Luke

On Wed, 15 Jan 2020, Chris Mullins wrote:

Hi
A hard disk crash has seen off my copy of Excel 2007 so I'm looking
for an alternative amongst Open Office, Libra Office and Google. Are
there any NVDA users out there that could give me feedback regarding
the accessibility of these products and whether I could still access
my existing Excel format spreadsheets with any or all of them? Your
advice would be greatly appreciated.