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Re: Finding in MS Word

Bhavya shah
 

Hi,
I confirm inconsistencies in the Word Find functionality in Microsoft
Office Word 2010 on Windows 8.1. When on Windows 7 and Microsoft
Office Word 2007, Ctrl+F, entering of search string and then Enter
always used to take me to an occurrence of the typed string after the
cursor, whereas in the current scenario, it sometimes does take me,
sometimes doesn't (which I check by pressing Esc to come out of the
dialog). If it doesn't work, then I press Ctrl+PgUp or Ctrl+PgDn to
move to the previous or next occurrence of the entered string, which
is slightly more consistent than Ctrl+F, but not 100% either.
Sincerest apologies for the confusing manner in which I have described
the problem above, but was just curious if this could be resolved
somehow, from Word's side, NVDA's end, or something of the sort.
Thank.

On 9/9/16, kelby carlson <kelbycarlson@...> wrote:
The Word search facility is slightly clunkier, though it appears to
work better with NVDA than with JAWS.

I am a very new user of NVDA so am still getting used to the ins and outs.

On 9/8/16, Chris Mullins <cjmullins29@...> wrote:
May I ask what is the difficulty using the search facility built into
Word?

Cheers
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of kelby
carlson
Sent: 8 September 2016 23:11
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Finding in MS Word

This is something that's pretty important for me to be able to do for
work
(I suspect that's the case for many here.) If anyone has the solution I
would appreciate it.

On 9/8/16, Brian Vogel <@britechguy> wrote:
I can confirm that I am not having any luck invoking the NVDA find via
INS+CTRL+F at this point in time using Windows 10 64-bit home, the
INS+CTRL+latest
build of NVDA - 2016.3, and Microsoft Word 2010.

This has not been the case in the past and I don't think I'm doing
anything differently than I had been before. I have, regardless of
screen reader, had many instances where I didn't seem to get the
screen reader find with
INS+CTRL+F but generally would on a subsequent try. Not in this case.
INS+CTRL+I
smell a possible bug.
--
Brian

I worry a lot. . . I worry that no matter how cynical you become it's
never enough to keep up.
~ Trudy, in Jane Wagner's "Search for Signs of Intelligent
Life in the Universe"







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Re: what's new tutorial for nvda 2016.3 drop box link.

Kenny Dog <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi kenny


Downloaded the file but there is no sound and the volume is up and not muted.


Gene nz



On 9/09/2016 11:17 AM, Kenny Peyattt jr. wrote:

Hi here is the drop box link to the what’s new tutorial in nvda 2016.3.

 

https://www.dropbox.com/s/kywgi7wnzqift79/What%27s%20new%20in%202016.3%20tutorial.mp3?dl=0

 

Kenny Peyatt jr.


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Re: Finding in MS Word

Cearbhall O'Meadhra
 

Hi,

 

Using windows 10, NVDA 2016.3 and Word 2016, on a .docx file I am able to find a chosen word both using the Word find command and the NVDA find command in both focus  and browse modes. The cursor is routed to the position of the found word in all cases. I made sure to use different search words in the two searches and to move forward away from the last search position before running each find command.

 

Could it be a problem relating only to using Word 2010?

 

 

All the best,

 

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Re: Temporarily disabling AVG protection Correction

Chris Mullins
 

Hi Gene

Yes it’s the right click, left click does nothing and left double click invokes the same gui as using the desktop shortcut, where the temporary disablement feature is a bit more difficult to find.  I cannot get the AVG icon to respond to the applications key  either, which would remove the need for mouse access .  Most other icons in the Overflow Notifications Toolbar will respond to the Applications key which behaves like a right mouse click but unfortunately AVG does not.  I suspect the in-built event handlers do not cater for keyboard input.     

 

 

Cheers

Chris

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 9 September 2016 00:18
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Temporarily disabling AVG protection Correction

 

Numpad star is a right click.  Are you saying that a right click should be used on the icon?  I want people to clearly understand the reason for your command choice.  It may matter in future when they want to use the mouse to right click something else in the system tray or elsewhere.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 4:29 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Temporarily disabling AVG protection Correction

 

Gene is quite right The first keypress should be NVDA+Numpad / however the second keypress should not be Numpad / but Numpad * to invoke the Context menu. Apologies for the incorrect post.

 

The corrected steps are:

 

  1. Press Windows+b to move to the system tray.

2Press enter on the Notifications chevron button.

3 Use arrow keys to scroll the overflow notifications list until you locate the AVG anti-virus button.

4 Press NVDA+numpad / to move mouse focus to the AVG button

5 Press Numpad * to activate the AVG context menu (Note: i can’t get the Applications key to invoke the AVG context menu, hence the 2 step process)

6. ‘Temporarily disable AVG protection’ appears in the Context menu list.

 

When you activate the disable option, a dialog appears with various warnings about removeing protection and instructions about re-enabling it.  You can also set a timer to automatically re-enable protection after a certain time has elapsed.

 

HTH

 

Chris

 

 

Cheers Chris

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 8 September 2016 14:29
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Temporarily disabling AVG protection Correction

 

All references to numpad 8 should be changed to numpad slash.  So to move mouse focus to the button, the command is numpad insert numpad slash.  To left click the mouse, the command is numpad slash

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 6:17 AM

Subject: [nvda] Tamporarily disabling AVG protection

 

To do the above, follow these steps:

 

  1. Press Windows+b to move to the system tray.

2Press enter on the Notifications chevron button.

3 Use arrow keys to scroll the overflow notifications list until you locate the AVG anti-virus button.

4 Press NVDA+numpad 8 to move mouse focus to the AVG button

5 Press Numpad 8 to activate the AVG context menu (Note: i can’t get the Applications key to invoke the AVG context menu, hence the 2 step process)

6. ‘Temporarily disable AVG protection’ appears in the Context menu list.

 

When you activate the disable option, a dialog appears with various warnings about removeing protection and instructions about re-enabling it.  You can also set a timer to automatically re-enable protection after a certain time has elapsed.

 

HTH

 

Chris


Re: Finding in MS Word

kelby carlson
 

The Word search facility is slightly clunkier, though it appears to
work better with NVDA than with JAWS.

I am a very new user of NVDA so am still getting used to the ins and outs.

On 9/8/16, Chris Mullins <cjmullins29@...> wrote:
May I ask what is the difficulty using the search facility built into Word?

Cheers
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of kelby
carlson
Sent: 8 September 2016 23:11
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Finding in MS Word

This is something that's pretty important for me to be able to do for work
(I suspect that's the case for many here.) If anyone has the solution I
would appreciate it.

On 9/8/16, Brian Vogel <@britechguy> wrote:
I can confirm that I am not having any luck invoking the NVDA find via
INS+CTRL+F at this point in time using Windows 10 64-bit home, the
INS+CTRL+latest
build of NVDA - 2016.3, and Microsoft Word 2010.

This has not been the case in the past and I don't think I'm doing
anything differently than I had been before. I have, regardless of
screen reader, had many instances where I didn't seem to get the
screen reader find with
INS+CTRL+F but generally would on a subsequent try. Not in this case.
INS+CTRL+I
smell a possible bug.
--
Brian

I worry a lot. . . I worry that no matter how cynical you become it's
never enough to keep up.
~ Trudy, in Jane Wagner's "Search for Signs of Intelligent
Life in the Universe"






Re: Finding in MS Word

Gene
 

As far as I know, the NVDA find command is only intended to be used in the virtual pc cursor.  You may be able to use it if the virtual pc cursor is on in word.  But I suspect that the Microsoft find command works as well as the NVDA find command.  Please give examples of where you find it lacking and those who know about using it in recent versions of word may comment.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 4:42 PM
Subject: [nvda] Finding in MS Word

The NVDA find command doesn't seem to work in MS word. When I press it
it treats me as having pressed ctrl-f, which is the regular Word find
and which doesn't work as well. How do you find text in a Word
document?



Re: Windows 10 issues

 

Hi,

In the sub category list of the settings app, NVDA should announce 'selected' when I press enter on a sub category. When I look at the screen, NVDA should announce this when a sub category has a blue highlight around it.


Re: Temporarily disabling AVG protection Correction

Gene
 

Numpad star is a right click.  Are you saying that a right click should be used on the icon?  I want people to clearly understand the reason for your command choice.  It may matter in future when they want to use the mouse to right click something else in the system tray or elsewhere.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 4:29 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Temporarily disabling AVG protection Correction

Gene is quite right The first keypress should be NVDA+Numpad / however the second keypress should not be Numpad / but Numpad * to invoke the Context menu. Apologies for the incorrect post.

 

The corrected steps are:

 

  1. Press Windows+b to move to the system tray.

2Press enter on the Notifications chevron button.

3 Use arrow keys to scroll the overflow notifications list until you locate the AVG anti-virus button.

4 Press NVDA+numpad / to move mouse focus to the AVG button

5 Press Numpad * to activate the AVG context menu (Note: i can’t get the Applications key to invoke the AVG context menu, hence the 2 step process)

6. ‘Temporarily disable AVG protection’ appears in the Context menu list.

 

When you activate the disable option, a dialog appears with various warnings about removeing protection and instructions about re-enabling it.  You can also set a timer to automatically re-enable protection after a certain time has elapsed.

 

HTH

 

Chris

 

 

Cheers Chris

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 8 September 2016 14:29
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Temporarily disabling AVG protection Correction

 

All references to numpad 8 should be changed to numpad slash.  So to move mouse focus to the button, the command is numpad insert numpad slash.  To left click the mouse, the command is numpad slash

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 6:17 AM

Subject: [nvda] Tamporarily disabling AVG protection

 

To do the above, follow these steps:

 

  1. Press Windows+b to move to the system tray.

2Press enter on the Notifications chevron button.

3 Use arrow keys to scroll the overflow notifications list until you locate the AVG anti-virus button.

4 Press NVDA+numpad 8 to move mouse focus to the AVG button

5 Press Numpad 8 to activate the AVG context menu (Note: i can’t get the Applications key to invoke the AVG context menu, hence the 2 step process)

6. ‘Temporarily disable AVG protection’ appears in the Context menu list.

 

When you activate the disable option, a dialog appears with various warnings about removeing protection and instructions about re-enabling it.  You can also set a timer to automatically re-enable protection after a certain time has elapsed.

 

HTH

 

Chris


what's new tutorial for nvda 2016.3 drop box link.

Kenny Peyattt jr.
 

Hi here is the drop box link to the what’s new tutorial in nvda 2016.3.

 

https://www.dropbox.com/s/kywgi7wnzqift79/What%27s%20new%20in%202016.3%20tutorial.mp3?dl=0

 

Kenny Peyatt jr.


Re: Finding in MS Word

Chris Mullins
 

May I ask what is the difficulty using the search facility built into Word?

Cheers
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of kelby carlson
Sent: 8 September 2016 23:11
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Finding in MS Word

This is something that's pretty important for me to be able to do for work (I suspect that's the case for many here.) If anyone has the solution I would appreciate it.

On 9/8/16, Brian Vogel <@britechguy> wrote:
I can confirm that I am not having any luck invoking the NVDA find via
INS+CTRL+F at this point in time using Windows 10 64-bit home, the
INS+CTRL+latest
build of NVDA - 2016.3, and Microsoft Word 2010.

This has not been the case in the past and I don't think I'm doing
anything differently than I had been before. I have, regardless of
screen reader, had many instances where I didn't seem to get the
screen reader find with
INS+CTRL+F but generally would on a subsequent try. Not in this case.
INS+CTRL+I
smell a possible bug.
--
Brian

I worry a lot. . . I worry that no matter how cynical you become it's
never enough to keep up.
~ Trudy, in Jane Wagner's "Search for Signs of Intelligent
Life in the Universe"


Re: Finding in MS Word

Quentin Christensen
 

Are you in Browse mode or focus mode when you press NVDA+control+f?

(Browse mode, for reading, can use single letter navigation keys and NVDA+f7 elements list like on the web.  Focus mode,you can write text - Word is normally in focus mode).

NVDA+control+f only works in Browse mode, so you need to press NVDA+spacebar in Word to switch to browse mode, but otherwise, it may provide a simpler "find" interface for some than particularly the task panes in the newer versions of Word.

Regards

Quentin.

On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 7:42 AM, kelby carlson <kelbycarlson@...> wrote:
The NVDA find command doesn't seem to work in MS word. When I press it
it treats me as having pressed ctrl-f, which is the regular Word find
and which doesn't work as well. How do you find text in a Word
document?






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Re: Finding in MS Word

Andre Fisher
 

The NVDA Find command only works in Browse mode, as stated in the user
guide. Press NVDA+Space, then NVDA+Control+F to use the NVDA Find
dialog in Word.

On 9/8/16, mohammad suliman <mohmad.s93@...> wrote:
I can confirm this also. Windows 7 and office 2010
here are some tips to work with the find functionality of word 2010:

- hit ctrl + f to go to the search field
- enter the term you wish to search for, and hit enter
- use f6 (several times, maybe 3) to get back to the document, where the
first result is focused
- to go to next / previous search result: hit f6, the focus will jump to
the navigation toolbar, from there click previous / next search result
- again, use f6, several times, as needed, to get back to the document
where the search result is focused


I don't know the shortcuts for previous / next search result, sorry!
hope that helps!

On Fri, 9 Sep 2016 at 01:11 kelby carlson <kelbycarlson@...> wrote:

This is something that's pretty important for me to be able to do for
work (I suspect that's the case for many here.) If anyone has the
solution I would appreciate it.

On 9/8/16, Brian Vogel <@britechguy> wrote:
I can confirm that I am not having any luck invoking the NVDA find via
INS+CTRL+F at this point in time using Windows 10 64-bit home, the
latest
build of NVDA - 2016.3, and Microsoft Word 2010.

This has not been the case in the past and I don't think I'm doing
anything
differently than I had been before. I have, regardless of screen
reader,
had many instances where I didn't seem to get the screen reader find
with
INS+CTRL+F but generally would on a subsequent try. Not in this case.
I
smell a possible bug.
--
Brian

I worry a lot. . . I worry that no matter how cynical you become it's
never
enough to keep up.
~ Trudy, in Jane Wagner's "Search for Signs of Intelligent
Life
in
the Universe"



Re: Finding in MS Word

mohammad suliman
 

I can confirm this also. Windows 7 and office 2010
here are some tips to work with the find functionality of word 2010:
  • hit ctrl + f to go to the search field
  • enter the term you wish to search for, and hit enter
  • use f6 (several times, maybe 3) to get back to the document, where the first result is focused
  • to go to next / previous search result: hit f6, the focus will jump to the navigation toolbar, from there click previous / next search result
  • again, use f6, several times, as needed, to get back to the document where the search result is focused

I don't know the shortcuts for previous / next search result, sorry!
hope that helps!

On Fri, 9 Sep 2016 at 01:11 kelby carlson <kelbycarlson@...> wrote:
This is something that's pretty important for me to be able to do for
work (I suspect that's the case for many here.) If anyone has the
solution I would appreciate it.

On 9/8/16, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:
> I can confirm that I am not having any luck invoking the NVDA find via
> INS+CTRL+F at this point in time using Windows 10 64-bit home, the latest
> build of NVDA - 2016.3, and Microsoft Word 2010.
>
> This has not been the case in the past and I don't think I'm doing anything
> differently than I had been before.  I have, regardless of screen reader,
> had many instances where I didn't seem to get the screen reader find with
> INS+CTRL+F but generally would on a subsequent try.  Not in this case.  I
> smell a possible bug.
> --
> Brian
>
> I worry a lot. . . I worry that no matter how cynical you become it's never
> enough to keep up.
>          ~ Trudy, in Jane Wagner's "Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in
> the Universe"
>




Re: Finding in MS Word

Kenny Dog <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi


I just tried it in microsoft word 2010 and if I done the following while in focus mode with the nvda search feature, it would bring up a search box but when i typed in what I wanted then tabed to search it would not go any where.


But now if you do the same to do a search with nvda but this time in browse mode you could type in a search  then it would find it no worries.


That was using the nvda find command.


I can not remember if before I could do it in focus mode?

By the way it was with a docx file.


Gene nz



On 9/09/2016 10:01 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:

I can confirm that I am not having any luck invoking the NVDA find via INS+CTRL+F at this point in time using Windows 10 64-bit home, the latest build of NVDA - 2016.3, and Microsoft Word 2010.

This has not been the case in the past and I don't think I'm doing anything differently than I had been before.  I have, regardless of screen reader, had many instances where I didn't seem to get the screen reader find with INS+CTRL+F but generally would on a subsequent try.  Not in this case.  I smell a possible bug.
--
Brian

I worry a lot. . . I worry that no matter how cynical you become it's never enough to keep up.

         ~ Trudy, in Jane Wagner's "Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe"

    



-- 
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Re: Finding in MS Word

kelby carlson
 

This is something that's pretty important for me to be able to do for
work (I suspect that's the case for many here.) If anyone has the
solution I would appreciate it.

On 9/8/16, Brian Vogel <@britechguy> wrote:
I can confirm that I am not having any luck invoking the NVDA find via
INS+CTRL+F at this point in time using Windows 10 64-bit home, the latest
build of NVDA - 2016.3, and Microsoft Word 2010.

This has not been the case in the past and I don't think I'm doing anything
differently than I had been before.  I have, regardless of screen reader,
had many instances where I didn't seem to get the screen reader find with
INS+CTRL+F but generally would on a subsequent try.  Not in this case.  I
smell a possible bug.
--
Brian

I worry a lot. . . I worry that no matter how cynical you become it's never
enough to keep up.
         ~ Trudy, in Jane Wagner's "Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in
the Universe"


Re: Windows 10 issues

Chris Mullins
 

Hi

I agree there is some confusion with the Settings window but I’m not sure if it’s a bug or not.  I’ve not had the Anniversary update yet so when I press Windows+i I land in the list of Settings categories on ‘System, which is reported as not selected.  When I press enter on ‘System’, the subsequent page displayed has a list of System sub-categories, all of which are reported as not selected when they are spoken by NVDA but nevertheless, invoke details of the relevant sub-category when enter is pressed. The same is true for the list of items I have configured for my start menu.  The question is, does a list item become ‘selected’ when it gets focus as in previous Windows versions or is it different for Windows 10?

 

Cheers

Chris

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Supanut Leepaisomboon
Sent: 8 September 2016 14:39
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Windows 10 issues

 

Hi,

Since I started using NVDA on my new laptop, I noticed a few issues.

The first issue is, despite the fact that NVDA can now read mail contents in the Mail app, I can't seem to get NVDA to read the mail content without object navigation.

The second issue is, in the Settings app, when I open a setting, I won't know whether a category is selected because NVDA won't say 'selected'. On my Surface 3 NVDA worked just fine in the Settings app.

I tried restarting with add ons disabled, still the same issue.

Any help in getting NVDA to work properly with the mMai and Settings app? Also on the other note, the issue with the calculator app is still not resolved.


Re: Finding in MS Word

 

I can confirm that I am not having any luck invoking the NVDA find via INS+CTRL+F at this point in time using Windows 10 64-bit home, the latest build of NVDA - 2016.3, and Microsoft Word 2010.

This has not been the case in the past and I don't think I'm doing anything differently than I had been before.  I have, regardless of screen reader, had many instances where I didn't seem to get the screen reader find with INS+CTRL+F but generally would on a subsequent try.  Not in this case.  I smell a possible bug.
--
Brian

I worry a lot. . . I worry that no matter how cynical you become it's never enough to keep up.

         ~ Trudy, in Jane Wagner's "Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe"

    



Re: a little problem with volume in youtube

Sukil Etxenike <sukiletxe@...>
 

Hi,

If you are using Windows 10, perhaps pressing NVDA+Shift+D until you hear "no ducking" will help you.

Cheers,
Sukil

El 08/09/2016 a las 23:53, P. Otter escribió:
hi guys!

i've a problem with the volume while playing music in youtube.

soundsuppression is off, but the sound is realy low.

when i close nvda the music will play much louder, until i restart nvda again what can i do to fix this?

i'm using nvda with vocalizer.

thanks in advance

paul otter




a little problem with volume in youtube

P. Otter
 

hi guys!

i've a problem with the volume while playing music in youtube.

soundsuppression is off, but the sound is realy low.

when i close nvda the music will play much louder, until i restart nvda again what can i do to fix this?

i'm using nvda with vocalizer.

thanks in advance

paul otter


Finding in MS Word

kelby carlson
 

The NVDA find command doesn't seem to work in MS word. When I press it
it treats me as having pressed ctrl-f, which is the regular Word find
and which doesn't work as well. How do you find text in a Word
document?