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Re: To all xp users who were running dropbox

Lino Morales
 

Say what? Where the hell did you hear this from MR. Bryian.uk.co.missinformed? Supported officially ended for XP on APR. 2014. Its high time you all get off the XP trainwreck. Dropbox did indeed end their support. Fanagle it to work to your little hearts content.

On 9/11/2016 6:32 AM, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
Actually it will let you in with a very old version, but not if its running on xp.
It obviously detects the operating system. They have sent out many messages from well over a month ago warning people about this and it did actually last an extra day. I see now they are claiming that its a security issue with xp as its not been updated for over two years, however many of us do have xp updates till 2019, and really should not be all shoved together with the great unwashed as it seems xp users are seen these days.

Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Arno Schuh" <@menschomat>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 10:47 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox


Hi,

the update of Dropbox is pushed by one or more entries in scheduled tasks. So it would be possible to stop the Dropbox client to update itself. But as I wrote in my last mail - it didn't matter. Dropbox didn't let you in with an old version of the client.

Yours sincerely

Arno





Re: iTunes and NVDA.

Lino Morales
 

That good Ron, but as already stated by me and others NVDA still will crash. More like silence speech. This mess has been going on since V 2015.3 into the current version.

On 9/11/2016 12:15 AM, Life My Way via Groups.io wrote:
I am able to browse and use the Itunes store just fine with nvda, I agree that Itunes needs a rewrite but the store works great for me.


On 9/10/2016 3:34 AM, Kerry Fielding wrote:
Unfortunately that's Apple. Now they are starting to do it with their hardware too. :-(

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On 10 Sep 2016, at 09:11, Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...> wrote:

It is exactly what it used to be, ie rubbish software that they cannot leave alone and have to keep changing it so screenreaders do not work. Bout time Apple rewrote their web site with something normal and made it a normal commerce site instead of anodball thing that only runs with their software.
I feel better now!
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Lino Morales" <linomorales001@...>
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Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 12:58 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] iTunes and NVDA.


This bull has been happening since NVDA 2015.4 and .3. Its annoying as hell. You can't brows the store, Apple Music, manage your account etc. Its a shame that NVDA sill does this. Plus iTunes isn't what it used to be.


On 9/9/2016 9:32 AM, Matt Turner wrote:
Hi folks.

So i just wanted to test out iTunes, using the master snapshot of nvda.

When you type into the search box, and try to review what you've wrote, nvda doesn't speak.

Also when looking for something in the store, nvda goes away, and you need to restart it again.

I'm not sure how to create a log of the crash, because when nvda goes away there's no speech.






Re: *** SPAM *** Navigation Pane

Gene
 

did you use nvda control f3 to repeat the search?  That is the correct procedure.  NVDA key control f for the firrst search.  NVDA control f3 for repetitions.  It may not matter but at this point, we don't know if the problem is the command being used or the way NVDA search works in Word.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 9:31 AM
Subject: Re: *** SPAM *** [nvda] Navigation Pane

Gene,

 

Yes, you are right that NVDA’s browse mode works in MS Word. It does bring the real cursor along with the virtual cursor. In fact, the windows wearch can also be used while in browse mode.

 

The NVDA search, NVDA+control+f only finds one occurrence of the result and not multiple occurrences like the control+f does. Therefore, it seems to me that there is no point in using browse mode to bring up multiple occurrences of the result.

 

 

All the best,

 

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Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 3:03 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: *** SPAM *** [nvda] Navigation Pane

 

You have to manually enter browse mode, NVDA key space.  As I said a few days ago, and no one addressed my question, does that move the actual application cursor along with the browse mode cursor or does it just move the browse mode cursor.  To get back to the application cursor, once again, use NVDA key space.  It's a toggle.  At least I should say, it's my understanding that in Word, this command toggles browse mode on and off and it must be manually done.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 8:46 AM

Subject: Re: *** SPAM *** [nvda] Navigation Pane

 

Thanks, Daniel,

 

I cannot get NVDA+F3 to work in Word. It works here in Outlook all right but not in Word.

 

Do you know where I might find a tutorial?

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of LANGERON Daniel
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 2:12 PM
To:
nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: *** SPAM *** [nvda] Navigation Pane

 

Hi both of you,
Just a brief "touch and go" into your discussion:  What about using the classic NVDA Key + F3 in order to reach the next occurrence you are looking for ?
Hope that could help.
Daniel from Versailles France

Le 11/09/2016 14:54, Cearbhall O'Meadhra a écrit :

Gene,

 

Yes, F6 and shift F6 moves between the various parts of the Word screen. Eventually F6 arrives at the search pane. This has three tabs headed “Search”, “Headings” and “Pages”. My problem occurs when the Search tool is in focus. Then I can type in a word that I want to find in the document. If this word occurs a few times in the document, I should get a list of results just below the search box. My problem is how to go through each of

these results to pick the one that I am looking for?

 

I am using Word 2010 in Windows 7 with NVDA 2016.3.

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 1:35 PM
To:
nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Navigation Pane

 

Have you tried using f6 to move forward and shift f6 to move backward among whatever panes may be opened? 

 

Gene
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 7:27 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Navigation Pane

 

Hi,

 

I am really struggling to find a good description of how to use the Navigation Pane in Word 2010 with NVDA or, indeed,  any screen reader!

 

Could anyone point me to a good tutorial or even set out the steps that they use to move through the results of a word search after pressing control-f in Word 2010, please?

 

 

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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Re: *** SPAM *** Navigation Pane

 


Here are 2 sites I am referring to when looking for some help about NVDA in English.
http://www.nvda-kr.org/en/
http://homepages.slingshot.co.nz/~hurrikenny/
Good luck, Cearbhall,
Daniel

Le 11/09/2016 15:46, Cearbhall O'Meadhra a écrit :

Thanks, Daniel,

 

I cannot get NVDA+F3 to work in Word. It works here in Outlook all right but not in Word.

 

Do you know where I might find a tutorial?

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 2:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: *** SPAM *** [nvda] Navigation Pane

 

Hi both of you,
Just a brief "touch and go" into your discussion:  What about using the classic NVDA Key + F3 in order to reach the next occurrence you are looking for ?
Hope that could help.
Daniel from Versailles France

Le 11/09/2016 14:54, Cearbhall O'Meadhra a écrit :

Gene,

 

Yes, F6 and shift F6 moves between the various parts of the Word screen. Eventually F6 arrives at the search pane. This has three tabs headed “Search”, “Headings” and “Pages”. My problem occurs when the Search tool is in focus. Then I can type in a word that I want to find in the document. If this word occurs a few times in the document, I should get a list of results just below the search box. My problem is how to go through each of

these results to pick the one that I am looking for?

 

I am using Word 2010 in Windows 7 with NVDA 2016.3.

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 1:35 PM
To:
nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Navigation Pane

 

Have you tried using f6 to move forward and shift f6 to move backward among whatever panes may be opened? 

 

Gene
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 7:27 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Navigation Pane

 

Hi,

 

I am really struggling to find a good description of how to use the Navigation Pane in Word 2010 with NVDA or, indeed,  any screen reader!

 

Could anyone point me to a good tutorial or even set out the steps that they use to move through the results of a word search after pressing control-f in Word 2010, please?

 

 

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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Re: *** SPAM *** Navigation Pane

Cearbhall O'Meadhra
 

Gene,

 

Yes, you are right that NVDA’s browse mode works in MS Word. It does bring the real cursor along with the virtual cursor. In fact, the windows wearch can also be used while in browse mode.

 

The NVDA search, NVDA+control+f only finds one occurrence of the result and not multiple occurrences like the control+f does. Therefore, it seems to me that there is no point in using browse mode to bring up multiple occurrences of the result.

 

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 3:03 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: *** SPAM *** [nvda] Navigation Pane

 

You have to manually enter browse mode, NVDA key space.  As I said a few days ago, and no one addressed my question, does that move the actual application cursor along with the browse mode cursor or does it just move the browse mode cursor.  To get back to the application cursor, once again, use NVDA key space.  It's a toggle.  At least I should say, it's my understanding that in Word, this command toggles browse mode on and off and it must be manually done.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 8:46 AM

Subject: Re: *** SPAM *** [nvda] Navigation Pane

 

Thanks, Daniel,

 

I cannot get NVDA+F3 to work in Word. It works here in Outlook all right but not in Word.

 

Do you know where I might find a tutorial?

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of LANGERON Daniel
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 2:12 PM
To:
nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: *** SPAM *** [nvda] Navigation Pane

 

Hi both of you,
Just a brief "touch and go" into your discussion:  What about using the classic NVDA Key + F3 in order to reach the next occurrence you are looking for ?
Hope that could help.
Daniel from Versailles France

Le 11/09/2016 14:54, Cearbhall O'Meadhra a écrit :

Gene,

 

Yes, F6 and shift F6 moves between the various parts of the Word screen. Eventually F6 arrives at the search pane. This has three tabs headed “Search”, “Headings” and “Pages”. My problem occurs when the Search tool is in focus. Then I can type in a word that I want to find in the document. If this word occurs a few times in the document, I should get a list of results just below the search box. My problem is how to go through each of

these results to pick the one that I am looking for?

 

I am using Word 2010 in Windows 7 with NVDA 2016.3.

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 1:35 PM
To:
nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Navigation Pane

 

Have you tried using f6 to move forward and shift f6 to move backward among whatever panes may be opened? 

 

Gene
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 7:27 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Navigation Pane

 

Hi,

 

I am really struggling to find a good description of how to use the Navigation Pane in Word 2010 with NVDA or, indeed,  any screen reader!

 

Could anyone point me to a good tutorial or even set out the steps that they use to move through the results of a word search after pressing control-f in Word 2010, please?

 

 

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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Re: Navigation Pane

Cearbhall O'Meadhra
 

Gene,

 

Very true!

 

Actually I know that Word 2016 can use control+page up and control+page down to go through each occurrence of the search result but I cannot get it to do this in Word 2010. I would love to hear that it can be done and how to do it.

 

S              All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 2:37 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Navigation Pane

 

I haven't used Word for a long time and the version I used was too early to have the list.  But isn't there still a command to move through the document to the next or previous occurrence?  If so, it might be easier than working with the list. 
We'll see what others who use Word in your version or higher say. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 7:54 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Navigation Pane

 

Gene,

 

Yes, F6 and shift F6 moves between the various parts of the Word screen. Eventually F6 arrives at the search pane. This has three tabs headed “Search”, “Headings” and “Pages”. My problem occurs when the Search tool is in focus. Then I can type in a word that I want to find in the document. If this word occurs a few times in the document, I should get a list of results just below the search box. My problem is how to go through each of

these results to pick the one that I am looking for?

 

I am using Word 2010 in Windows 7 with NVDA 2016.3.

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 1:35 PM
To:
nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Navigation Pane

 

Have you tried using f6 to move forward and shift f6 to move backward among whatever panes may be opened? 

 

Gene
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 7:27 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Navigation Pane

 

Hi,

 

I am really struggling to find a good description of how to use the Navigation Pane in Word 2010 with NVDA or, indeed,  any screen reader!

 

Could anyone point me to a good tutorial or even set out the steps that they use to move through the results of a word search after pressing control-f in Word 2010, please?

 

 

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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Re: *** SPAM *** Navigation Pane

Gene
 

You have to manually enter browse mode, NVDA key space.  As I said a few days ago, and no one addressed my question, does that move the actual application cursor along with the browse mode cursor or does it just move the browse mode cursor.  To get back to the application cursor, once again, use NVDA key space.  It's a toggle.  At least I should say, it's my understanding that in Word, this command toggles browse mode on and off and it must be manually done.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 8:46 AM
Subject: Re: *** SPAM *** [nvda] Navigation Pane

Thanks, Daniel,

 

I cannot get NVDA+F3 to work in Word. It works here in Outlook all right but not in Word.

 

Do you know where I might find a tutorial?

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of LANGERON Daniel
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 2:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: *** SPAM *** [nvda] Navigation Pane

 

Hi both of you,
Just a brief "touch and go" into your discussion:  What about using the classic NVDA Key + F3 in order to reach the next occurrence you are looking for ?
Hope that could help.
Daniel from Versailles France

Le 11/09/2016 14:54, Cearbhall O'Meadhra a écrit :

Gene,

 

Yes, F6 and shift F6 moves between the various parts of the Word screen. Eventually F6 arrives at the search pane. This has three tabs headed “Search”, “Headings” and “Pages”. My problem occurs when the Search tool is in focus. Then I can type in a word that I want to find in the document. If this word occurs a few times in the document, I should get a list of results just below the search box. My problem is how to go through each of

these results to pick the one that I am looking for?

 

I am using Word 2010 in Windows 7 with NVDA 2016.3.

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 1:35 PM
To:
nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Navigation Pane

 

Have you tried using f6 to move forward and shift f6 to move backward among whatever panes may be opened? 

 

Gene
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 7:27 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Navigation Pane

 

Hi,

 

I am really struggling to find a good description of how to use the Navigation Pane in Word 2010 with NVDA or, indeed,  any screen reader!

 

Could anyone point me to a good tutorial or even set out the steps that they use to move through the results of a word search after pressing control-f in Word 2010, please?

 

 

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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Re: *** SPAM *** Navigation Pane

Cearbhall O'Meadhra
 

Thanks, Daniel,

 

I cannot get NVDA+F3 to work in Word. It works here in Outlook all right but not in Word.

 

Do you know where I might find a tutorial?

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of LANGERON Daniel
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 2:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: *** SPAM *** [nvda] Navigation Pane

 

Hi both of you,
Just a brief "touch and go" into your discussion:  What about using the classic NVDA Key + F3 in order to reach the next occurrence you are looking for ?
Hope that could help.
Daniel from Versailles France

Le 11/09/2016 14:54, Cearbhall O'Meadhra a écrit :

Gene,

 

Yes, F6 and shift F6 moves between the various parts of the Word screen. Eventually F6 arrives at the search pane. This has three tabs headed “Search”, “Headings” and “Pages”. My problem occurs when the Search tool is in focus. Then I can type in a word that I want to find in the document. If this word occurs a few times in the document, I should get a list of results just below the search box. My problem is how to go through each of

these results to pick the one that I am looking for?

 

I am using Word 2010 in Windows 7 with NVDA 2016.3.

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 1:35 PM
To:
nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Navigation Pane

 

Have you tried using f6 to move forward and shift f6 to move backward among whatever panes may be opened? 

 

Gene
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 7:27 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Navigation Pane

 

Hi,

 

I am really struggling to find a good description of how to use the Navigation Pane in Word 2010 with NVDA or, indeed,  any screen reader!

 

Could anyone point me to a good tutorial or even set out the steps that they use to move through the results of a word search after pressing control-f in Word 2010, please?

 

 

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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Re: Navigation Pane

Gene
 

I haven't used Word for a long time and the version I used was too early to have the list.  But isn't there still a command to move through the document to the next or previous occurrence?  If so, it might be easier than working with the list. 
We'll see what others who use Word in your version or higher say. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 7:54 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Navigation Pane

Gene,

 

Yes, F6 and shift F6 moves between the various parts of the Word screen. Eventually F6 arrives at the search pane. This has three tabs headed “Search”, “Headings” and “Pages”. My problem occurs when the Search tool is in focus. Then I can type in a word that I want to find in the document. If this word occurs a few times in the document, I should get a list of results just below the search box. My problem is how to go through each of

these results to pick the one that I am looking for?

 

I am using Word 2010 in Windows 7 with NVDA 2016.3.

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 1:35 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Navigation Pane

 

Have you tried using f6 to move forward and shift f6 to move backward among whatever panes may be opened? 

 

Gene
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 7:27 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Navigation Pane

 

Hi,

 

I am really struggling to find a good description of how to use the Navigation Pane in Word 2010 with NVDA or, indeed,  any screen reader!

 

Could anyone point me to a good tutorial or even set out the steps that they use to move through the results of a word search after pressing control-f in Word 2010, please?

 

 

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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Re: *** SPAM *** Navigation Pane

 

Hi both of you,
Just a brief "touch and go" into your discussion:  What about using the classic NVDA Key + F3 in order to reach the next occurence you are looking for ?
Hope that could help.
Daniel from Versailles France

Le 11/09/2016 14:54, Cearbhall O'Meadhra a écrit :

Gene,

 

Yes, F6 and shift F6 moves between the various parts of the Word screen. Eventually F6 arrives at the search pane. This has three tabs headed “Search”, “Headings” and “Pages”. My problem occurs when the Search tool is in focus. Then I can type in a word that I want to find in the document. If this word occurs a few times in the document, I should get a list of results just below the search box. My problem is how to go through each of

these results to pick the one that I am looking for?

 

I am using Word 2010 in Windows 7 with NVDA 2016.3.

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 1:35 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Navigation Pane

 

Have you tried using f6 to move forward and shift f6 to move backward among whatever panes may be opened? 

 

Gene
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 7:27 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Navigation Pane

 

Hi,

 

I am really struggling to find a good description of how to use the Navigation Pane in Word 2010 with NVDA or, indeed,  any screen reader!

 

Could anyone point me to a good tutorial or even set out the steps that they use to move through the results of a word search after pressing control-f in Word 2010, please?

 

 

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

 

 

 



Re: vocalizer 4.0

Георги Ламбов <obichamlegiona@...>
 

I really can't understand where is the problem and why do they hurry so much with the new version of vocalizer. I believe everybody

has at least one synthesizer on his computer! Then, where is the problem?
Georgi
На 10.9.2016 г. в 21:52 ч., Mallard написа:

Ciao Rui,

Looking forward to that...


Thanks for your continued work.

Ciao,

Ollie





Il 10/09/2016 19:37, Rui Fontes ha scritto:
Ciao Ollie and helloall!

The technical problem is the change in pronunciation of some words, modified
by the presence, before or after, of other words...
At least in portuguese is a serious problem...

We will surely release the new version...

Regards,

Rui Fontes
Tiflotecnia, Lda.




-----Mensagem Original-----
De: Mallard
Data: 10 de setembro de 2016 13:32
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: Re: [nvda] vocalizer 4.0

Rui dear,

You have all my solidarity and understanding...

Hang in there!

Ciao, stai bene,

Ollie





Il 09/09/2016 21:00, Rui Fontes ha scritto:
We can not gave any date since we are waiting a technical answer from
Nuance, and we do not want to release the new version without solving the
problem...

Best regards,

Rui Fontes
Tiflotecnia, Lda.


-----Mensagem Original-----
De: Life My Way via Groups.io
Data: 9 de setembro de 2016 16:20
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: [nvda] vocalizer 4.0

when will the new driver for vocalizer 4.0 be out?














Re: Navigation Pane

Cearbhall O'Meadhra
 

Gene,

 

Yes, F6 and shift F6 moves between the various parts of the Word screen. Eventually F6 arrives at the search pane. This has three tabs headed “Search”, “Headings” and “Pages”. My problem occurs when the Search tool is in focus. Then I can type in a word that I want to find in the document. If this word occurs a few times in the document, I should get a list of results just below the search box. My problem is how to go through each of

these results to pick the one that I am looking for?

 

I am using Word 2010 in Windows 7 with NVDA 2016.3.

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 1:35 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Navigation Pane

 

Have you tried using f6 to move forward and shift f6 to move backward among whatever panes may be opened? 

 

Gene
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 7:27 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Navigation Pane

 

Hi,

 

I am really struggling to find a good description of how to use the Navigation Pane in Word 2010 with NVDA or, indeed,  any screen reader!

 

Could anyone point me to a good tutorial or even set out the steps that they use to move through the results of a word search after pressing control-f in Word 2010, please?

 

 

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

 

 

 


Re: Navigation Pane

Gene
 

Have you tried using f6 to move forward and shift f6 to move backward among whatever panes may be opened? 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 7:27 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Navigation Pane

Hi,

 

I am really struggling to find a good description of how to use the Navigation Pane in Word 2010 with NVDA or, indeed,  any screen reader!

 

Could anyone point me to a good tutorial or even set out the steps that they use to move through the results of a word search after pressing control-f in Word 2010, please?

 

 

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

 

 

 


Re: Navigation Pane

Cearbhall O'Meadhra
 

Hi,

 

I am really struggling to find a good description of how to use the Navigation Pane in Word 2010 with NVDA or, indeed,  any screen reader!

 

Could anyone point me to a good tutorial or even set out the steps that they use to move through the results of a word search after pressing control-f in Word 2010, please?

 

 

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

 

 

 


Re: iTunes and NVDA.

Gerardo Corripio
 

Whereever ITunes with Nvda lacks, when wanting to browse through The apps meeing to updates, only Table vew is reportes by NVDA; arrow key movements does nothing! Any useful tips?

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El 10 de septiembre de 2016 11:35:31 PM "Arlene" <nedster66@...> escribio:

I'm glad it works for you. But on my friend's Ipad and phone. Itunes is
different.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Life My
Way via Groups.io
Sent: September-10-16 9:15 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] iTunes and NVDA.

I am able to browse and use the Itunes store just fine with nvda, I agree
that Itunes needs a rewrite but the store works great for me.


On 9/10/2016 3:34 AM, Kerry Fielding wrote:
Unfortunately that's Apple. Now they are starting to do it with their
hardware too. :-(

Sent from my iPhone

On 10 Sep 2016, at 09:11, Brian's Mail list account
<bglists@...> wrote:

It is exactly what it used to be, ie rubbish software that they cannot
leave alone and have to keep changing it so screenreaders do not work. Bout
time Apple rewrote their web site with something normal and made it a normal
commerce site instead of anodball thing that only runs with their software.
I feel better now!
Brian

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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 12:58 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] iTunes and NVDA.


This bull has been happening since NVDA 2015.4 and .3. Its annoying as
hell. You can't brows the store, Apple Music, manage your account etc. Its a
shame that NVDA sill does this. Plus iTunes isn't what it used to be.


On 9/9/2016 9:32 AM, Matt Turner wrote:
Hi folks.

So i just wanted to test out iTunes, using the master snapshot of nvda.

When you type into the search box, and try to review what you've wrote,
nvda doesn't speak.

Also when looking for something in the store, nvda goes away, and you
need to restart it again.

I'm not sure how to create a log of the crash, because when nvda goes
away there's no speech.









Re: Podcatchers and nvda

Life My Way
 

try qcast

On 9/11/2016 5:40 AM, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
Hi folks what do you all use to download podcasts using an automated system. I've been fine with Juice for some time, but it seems many sites now are using https not http, and Juice seems unable to cope with those sites.

This is a pity as its been very reliable in the past on this windows 7 machine. OK you need to change a few paths with 7 and 10 to make it work, but its not that hard to do.


Brian

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Re: webvisum

 

i am very glad that all programs dont update automaticly!
i dont like automatic update in any software or even addons!

On 9/11/16, Governor staten <@Govsta> wrote:
It appears that Webvisum doesn't automatically update. I wonder why?



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On 9/10/2016 6:10 AM, Shaun Oliver wrote:
I tried to get that as late as yesterday and it was giving me issues with
installing from the web site.


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of nasrin
khaksar
Sent: Saturday, 10 September 2016 17:48
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] webvisum

hi.
the last version of webvisum is now 0.95 and it signed and its valid
between all adons of firefox!
you can use it without any worried!
i use it in firefox version 39 without any problem.
God bless you and thanks for asking.

On 9/10/16, Roger Stewart <paganus2@...> wrote:
WebVisum is working just fine here and I'm running the latest version
of Firefox--48.02. Hope this helps. If you're running something odd
like betas or nightly try builds, maybe it won't work but if you use
the current stable version, all should be good to go.

Roger








On 9/9/2016 5:32 PM, Governor staten wrote:
Does it still work, and if so, what version of Firefox does it work
with? I doesn't appear to work with the NIghtly versions.


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Podcatchers and nvda

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Hi folks what do you all use to download podcasts using an automated system. I've been fine with Juice for some time, but it seems many sites now are using https not http, and Juice seems unable to cope with those sites.

This is a pity as its been very reliable in the past on this windows 7 machine. OK you need to change a few paths with 7 and 10 to make it work, but its not that hard to do.


Brian

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Re: dealing with Pins on the Windows 10 start

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Yes. Also there is a mod to make explorer have normal non ribbon menus but beware its non reversable except by taking the computer back.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Arlene" <nedster66@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 5:59 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] dealing with Pins on the Windows 10 start


Hi there: sorry this is old. Can a sighted person use classic shell on her ten machine?



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jacob Kruger
Sent: August-21-16 10:23 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] dealing with Pins on the Windows 10 start



http://www.classicshell.net/



Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2016-08-22 7:21 AM, Arlene wrote:

Hi, Where do you get classic shell? I’m asking this shell I end up getting windows ten.



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christo Vorster
Sent: August-21-16 10:15 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] dealing with Pins on the Windows 10 start



Hi



There is method in the madness of teaching Windows+M and Windows+d.



Windows+D maximize the desktop while Windows+M minimize it.



I have found that installing Classic Shell is a great help. This make Win10 look like win7.



By the way, Classic Shell is free.



Regards



Christo Vorster (Worcester South Africa)



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brandon Keith Biggs
Sent: Sunday, 21 August 2016 11:55 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] dealing with Pins on the Windows 10 start



Hello,

I think I figured it out.

The top row is folders and under that is a grid of everything in those folders. The problem is that grid is really strangely shaped and if you press an arrow key you may jump to another folder. Nice thing is it will announce the new folder, but that is also what makes it so confusing.



*Note* windows + d also takes you to the desktop like windows + m does, you only need to use one hand though. I've never understood why they teach windows + m when windows + d is easier to do and remember.

Thanks,




Brandon Keith Biggs <http://brandonkeithbiggs.com/>



On Sat, Aug 20, 2016 at 10:10 PM, Jeremy <icu8it2@...> wrote:

Haha, a fun one! First, and apologies to those who may disagree, but it seems to me that currently, the Start menu on 10 with NVDA is slightly less than pleasant to use. :)
I've changed mine up now, I got tired of how crappy it was working for me so I took all the stuff out of the pinned apps area so it no longer shows up, but this is what I was able to figure out.

When you first press the start button and it lands you in the search box, you can press tab, either once or twice and it should take you to a vertical list containing a fairly large number of apps and some of their associated folders. As you arrow up and down here, NVDA will first read the section you come to, so A, B, etc and then under those, read you apps that fall under those sections. As you probably already know, it's here that you can press the applications key and pin said apps to the start menu.

As for the area where Apps actually get pinned, it looks like shift tab is what you want, so doing it from the search box should land you there. It's here that you should be able to use the arrow keys to move up, down, left and right in the grid, but unfortunately, NVDA seems to read things here all weird. As something that looks similar to how IOS likes to create named directories based on the names of the stuff you put in them, as you're moving around here, you'll come to these named sections and can press enter to rename them. As you're moving around here, you'll land on these sections, lets say, Audio and Music just as an example and can sometimes press down or wright and it will start reading you the pinned apps under that section. If you happen to only have one or two things here though, It's sometimes hard to get it to land where you want on the icon or whatever.

I've wondered if it's possible to turn off the structuring of the apps you pin here and just have them in a huge grid, but if so, I've not figured it out.
I'm also not sure if this is something that NVDA just hasn't caught up with and if there are things in the pipe down the road that will make it more friendly, but so far, it is kind of a pain to use. haha

If you play with it though and figure out anything else, I'd certainly be interested.
Take care.

On 8/20/2016 10:17 AM, Brandon Keith Biggs wrote:

Hello,

The reason why one uses the start menu is so you don't need to open apps to do things like your calendar, whether, news and stocks. you just arrow over those items and you hear what they are.

Thanks,



Brandon Keith Biggs <http://brandonkeithbiggs.com/>



On Sat, Aug 20, 2016 at 5:40 AM, Louis Maher <ljmaher@...> wrote:

Hello Brandon,



I find it easier to place application shortcuts on the desktop. This is a two-step process. Hit the windows key, type in the application name, hit the context menu, find file location and enter on it, hit the context menu and go to the send-to menu. Hit the desktop option. Hit windows m to bring you to the desktop, type the first letter of the application, and you will land on it. Note that on the desktop, once you find a and select application, you can hit f2 and change the shortcut’s name.







Regards

Louis Maher

Phone: 713-444-7838

E-mail: ljmaher@...



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brandon Keith Biggs
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 7:04 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] dealing with Pins on the Windows 10 start



Hello,

Does anyone understand how pins work in Windows 10?

I removed all the junk in hopes that fewer items would make things clearer, but it didn't I pinned a couple things to the start and in order to get to them I need to hit right arrow once and down arrow all the way to the bottom when they should be just down.

Apparently there are folders but I can't understand how they work.

Any help would be great because I would like to start using the start menu.

Thanks,

Brandon Keith Biggs <http://brandonkeithbiggs.com/>


Re: To all xp users who were running dropbox

Brian's Mail list account BY <bglists@...>
 

Then we need your secret, as after a day, it stopped working and sits there saying waiting to be linked to an account, but won't let you actually do it from an xp machine.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Capelle" <mcapelle@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 3:26 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox


it is working fine on my end, running xp sp3.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Arno Schuh" <@menschomat>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 4:19 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] To all xp users who were running dropbox


Hi,
no, the Dropbox client version that still runs with Win XP is blocked from the Dropbox side. So it didn't help to try to prevent the client from updating.
The Dropbox client for XP no longer have access to the server and no longer can't connect into the server.

You still can upload files with CarotDAV on XP to your Dropbox account. But until now CarotDAV can't create a public link to the uploaded files.

Yours sincerely

Arno