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Re: Outlook 2016 almost unusable with NVDA 2016.3

Craig
 

Hi.

Don't and didn't have any probs with NVDA 16.3 and Outlook 2016 on Win10
machine. Runs like a dream.

If anything seems a minor fix that I had where at the first opening outlook
and the first email wouldn't read but I just exited the email and then
reenter then I could read however this seems to be resolved.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pranav
Lal
Sent: Thursday, 8 September 2016 3:04 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Outlook 2016 almost unusable with NVDA 2016.3

Hi,

What operating system is your computer running?

Pranav

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Engin
Albayrak
Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 10:24 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Outlook 2016 almost unusable with NVDA 2016.3

I have no problem for Outlook 2016 and nvda 2016.3

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pranav
Lal
Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2016 7:09 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Outlook 2016 almost unusable with NVDA 2016.3

Hi all,

I am still experiencing the issue where when I am replying or composing a
message, outlook 2016 will hang at random intervals. The only solution is
to reboot my computer.
I have raised the issue at https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/5835

I have also tried outlook in safe mode but I still had the problem.
Os=windows 10 64bit
Windows version = Version 1511 (OS Build 10586.545)


Re: Trouble installing 2016.3

Kenny Dog <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi


Was the portable version working before? and did you have a shortcut hot key to start it?



I am wondering also if you have the synth set to no speech? When you go to start up the portable version do you get the start up sound? or is it quiet?
If it is set to no speech you can use the nvda key + the letter S to toggle it from no speech to speak.

What synth were you using? when nvda stopped talking. Maybe it might not be supported and buggy.


Whic version of windows are you using? is it windows 10?

If so it might be a good idea to fully remove the installer version of NVDA if it is not working.

You should be able to use narrator to go into the control panel section you are looking for program features  i can not think of the rest of the name go into it then locate teh nvda part in the list then uninstall it.

then after that the pc might have to be rebooted.

When windows start up again if you do not know the shortcut key to start narrator is the windows key + the enter key. When he starts then use the windows key again with the letter R to bring up the run dialouge then type %appdata% then press the enter key. There will be a selection of settings there in folders for your programs. Locate the one that says nvda then delete it out. Then close the screen with the alt and f4 key. Not sure if you have to reboot again, but then it is a matter of installing NVDA again to the pc. You should be able to use narrator to get nvda installed.
I am wondering if the nvda.ini file got corrupted.

Usually the above steps will fix the problem.

the other thing that might come to mind is it bringing up a UAC screen and if so either tab to the yes button then press the enter key or use the alt key + the letter y to say yes to this screen.

Some times a anti virus program can stop it from installing thinking it is a virus but it does not do it with my windws defender.

I wonder also if you put NVDA to sleep when it was running? If so and you know it was started, you could use the nvda key + the shift key + the letter s..
On 8/09/2016 7:46 AM, Robert Kingett wrote:

I tried to uninstall it with Revo uninstaller, making sure all the leftover files were deleted, but processes still start when I boot up my computer. will safe mode disable these processes so that, perhaps, I can finally get rid if it completely? Maybe that is causing the issue? I still do not understand why the portable version does not run, at all.    


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Re: Trouble installing 2016.3

Gene
 

It makes no sense to uninstall an antivirus program if it interferes with installing NVDA or any other program.  You can exclude antivirus programs from monitoring certain files or certain folders.  You can temporarily turn off protection while installing.  Some programs specifically tell you to disable your antivirus program while installing.  My scanner software instructed me to turn off whatever antivirus program I might be running during installation.  For a time, my antivirus program saw one or more files in System Access to Go as malicious because of false positives.  I excluded the program from being monitored by my antivirus program.  
 
Gene

Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 1:52 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Trouble installing 2016.3

You should use the AVG uninstall tool to completely remove AVG.  AVG objected to one of the UIA modules when I first installed NVDA but it gave me the option to allow the installation and I have had no problems since.  I too am using W10 64-bit

 

Cheers

Chris

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 7 September 2016 18:36
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Trouble installing 2016.3

 

You don't have to remove antivirus programs if they cause installation problems.  To make things much easier in future, you can learn to disable the program temporarily.  Some programs require that antivirus programs be inactive during installation.  I have never heard of NVDA requiring such and if your antivirus program were blocking it, you should be notified by the program.

 

I don't know why you are having this problem but I'm trying to prevent you from doing a lot of unnecessary work in future if you think your antivirus program is causing a problem. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 11:29 AM

Subject: [nvda] Trouble installing 2016.3

 

I am having a problem downloading NVDA 2016.3 version on windows 10 64 bit.

when I download through NVDA it downloads but does not install.
when I try to run the setup file manually nothing happens, at all, not even an UAC message or something.

when I try to update via Ninite it says the update is not supported.

when I try to install NVDA with ninite after uninstalling it, Ninite gives me an access is denied error.

Idid have AVG but uninstalled it. I realized the other day there are still backround processes running even though I uninstalled it with Revo uninstaller making sure to delete all the leftover files, then going in to regedit and deleting the entire AVG category... but it still will not install. Older versions work just fine. It is just 2016.3 that will not work.

I am currently using 2016.1. I have AVG uninstalled, as well as AVAST.    


Re: Outlook 2016 almost unusable with NVDA 2016.3

Engin Albayrak <mealbayrak@...>
 

Win10 1607

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pranav
Lal
Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2016 8:34 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Outlook 2016 almost unusable with NVDA 2016.3

Hi,

What operating system is your computer running?

Pranav

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Engin
Albayrak
Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 10:24 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Outlook 2016 almost unusable with NVDA 2016.3

I have no problem for Outlook 2016 and nvda 2016.3

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pranav
Lal
Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2016 7:09 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Outlook 2016 almost unusable with NVDA 2016.3

Hi all,

I am still experiencing the issue where when I am replying or composing a
message, outlook 2016 will hang at random intervals. The only solution is
to reboot my computer.
I have raised the issue at https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/5835

I have also tried outlook in safe mode but I still had the problem.
Os=windows 10 64bit
Windows version = Version 1511 (OS Build 10586.545)


Re: Trouble installing 2016.3

Robert Kingett <kingettspeaks@...>
 

I tried to uninstall it with Revo uninstaller, making sure all the leftover files were deleted, but processes still start when I boot up my computer. will safe mode disable these processes so that, perhaps, I can finally get rid if it completely? Maybe that is causing the issue? I still do not understand why the portable version does not run, at all.    


Re: Trouble installing 2016.3

Chris Mullins
 

You should use the AVG uninstall tool to completely remove AVG.  AVG objected to one of the UIA modules when I first installed NVDA but it gave me the option to allow the installation and I have had no problems since.  I too am using W10 64-bit

 

Cheers

Chris

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 7 September 2016 18:36
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Trouble installing 2016.3

 

You don't have to remove antivirus programs if they cause installation problems.  To make things much easier in future, you can learn to disable the program temporarily.  Some programs require that antivirus programs be inactive during installation.  I have never heard of NVDA requiring such and if your antivirus program were blocking it, you should be notified by the program.

 

I don't know why you are having this problem but I'm trying to prevent you from doing a lot of unnecessary work in future if you think your antivirus program is causing a problem. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 11:29 AM

Subject: [nvda] Trouble installing 2016.3

 

I am having a problem downloading NVDA 2016.3 version on windows 10 64 bit.

when I download through NVDA it downloads but does not install.
when I try to run the setup file manually nothing happens, at all, not even an UAC message or something.

when I try to update via Ninite it says the update is not supported.

when I try to install NVDA with ninite after uninstalling it, Ninite gives me an access is denied error.

Idid have AVG but uninstalled it. I realized the other day there are still backround processes running even though I uninstalled it with Revo uninstaller making sure to delete all the leftover files, then going in to regedit and deleting the entire AVG category... but it still will not install. Older versions work just fine. It is just 2016.3 that will not work.

I am currently using 2016.1. I have AVG uninstalled, as well as AVAST.    


Re: Seeking accessible irc clients

derek riemer
 

Hi Pranav:

Have you tried instant bird (instantbird.com)?


On 9/7/2016 11:34 AM, Pranav Lal wrote:
Hi all,

Are there any accessible irc clients? Mirc used to be around. Is it still the
client of choice?

Pranav





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Re: Outlook 2016 almost unusable with NVDA 2016.3

Cearbhall O'Meadhra
 

Hi,

 

Pranav, I have no problem with Outlook 2016 and NVDA 2016.3 Did you reinstall Outlook last week? I did have problems with the original installation and these were cleared up after I reinstalled Office 2016. Now everything is working fine in Word, Excel and Outlook 2016.

 

All the best,

 

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Re: Seeking accessible irc clients

Roger Stewart
 

Yes, mIRC (also known as mIRC4Life) is still around and there have been 4 updates to it just this year. Also, ChatZilla add on is available for Firefox and it works very well with nvda.

Roger

On 9/7/2016 12:34 PM, Pranav Lal wrote:
Hi all,

Are there any accessible irc clients? Mirc used to be around. Is it still the
client of choice?

Pranav




Re: Trouble installing 2016.3

Gene
 

You don't have to remove antivirus programs if they cause installation problems.  To make things much easier in future, you can learn to disable the program temporarily.  Some programs require that antivirus programs be inactive during installation.  I have never heard of NVDA requiring such and if your antivirus program were blocking it, you should be notified by the program.
 
I don't know why you are having this problem but I'm trying to prevent you from doing a lot of unnecessary work in future if you think your antivirus program is causing a problem. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 11:29 AM
Subject: [nvda] Trouble installing 2016.3

I am having a problem downloading NVDA 2016.3 version on windows 10 64 bit.

when I download through NVDA it downloads but does not install.
when I try to run the setup file manually nothing happens, at all, not even an UAC message or something.

when I try to update via Ninite it says the update is not supported.

when I try to install NVDA with ninite after uninstalling it, Ninite gives me an access is denied error.

Idid have AVG but uninstalled it. I realized the other day there are still backround processes running even though I uninstalled it with Revo uninstaller making sure to delete all the leftover files, then going in to regedit and deleting the entire AVG category... but it still will not install. Older versions work just fine. It is just 2016.3 that will not work.

I am currently using 2016.1. I have AVG uninstalled, as well as AVAST.    


Re: Outlook 2016 almost unusable with NVDA 2016.3

Pranav Lal
 

Hi,

What operating system is your computer running?

Pranav

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Engin
Albayrak
Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 10:24 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Outlook 2016 almost unusable with NVDA 2016.3

I have no problem for Outlook 2016 and nvda 2016.3

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pranav Lal
Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2016 7:09 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Outlook 2016 almost unusable with NVDA 2016.3

Hi all,

I am still experiencing the issue where when I am replying or composing a
message, outlook 2016 will hang at random intervals. The only solution is to
reboot my computer.
I have raised the issue at https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/5835

I have also tried outlook in safe mode but I still had the problem.
Os=windows 10 64bit
Windows version = Version 1511 (OS Build 10586.545)


Re: Outlook 2016 almost unusable with NVDA 2016.3

Pranav Lal
 

Hi Brian,

Hmm, I was about to install jaws and try it. Do you have any more details?

Pranav

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian's Mail
list account
Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 10:09 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Outlook 2016 almost unusable with NVDA 2016.3

I heard this before for both Jaws and nvda on a radio show the other day. it
seems office 2016 does not play nice on some peoples machines.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Pranav Lal" <pranav.lal@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 5:09 PM
Subject: [nvda] Outlook 2016 almost unusable with NVDA 2016.3


Hi all,

I am still experiencing the issue where when I am replying or composing a
message, outlook 2016 will hang at random intervals. The only solution is
to
reboot my computer.
I have raised the issue at https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/5835

I have also tried outlook in safe mode but I still had the problem.
Os=windows 10 64bit
Windows version = Version 1511 (OS Build 10586.545)




Seeking accessible irc clients

Pranav Lal
 

Hi all,

Are there any accessible irc clients? Mirc used to be around. Is it still the
client of choice?

Pranav


Re: Trouble installing 2016.3

Robert Kingett <kingettspeaks@...>
 

I downloaded a portable version onto a flash drive and tried to run it on the problematic windows 10 machine. the NVDA sound boots up but then the windows error sound plays but no error dialogue box. NVDA automatically closes and does not restart.


Re: Outlook 2016 almost unusable with NVDA 2016.3

Engin Albayrak <mealbayrak@...>
 

I have no problem for Outlook 2016 and nvda 2016.3

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pranav
Lal
Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2016 7:09 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Outlook 2016 almost unusable with NVDA 2016.3

Hi all,

I am still experiencing the issue where when I am replying or composing a
message, outlook 2016 will hang at random intervals. The only solution is
to reboot my computer.
I have raised the issue at https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/5835

I have also tried outlook in safe mode but I still had the problem.
Os=windows 10 64bit
Windows version = Version 1511 (OS Build 10586.545)


Re: Trouble installing 2016.3

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 


No trouble here with the installer from nvaccess here it seems.
 Brian

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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 5:29 PM
Subject: [nvda] Trouble installing 2016.3

I am having a problem downloading NVDA 2016.3 version on windows 10 64 bit.

when I download through NVDA it downloads but does not install.
when I try to run the setup file manually nothing happens, at all, not even an UAC message or something.

when I try to update via Ninite it says the update is not supported.

when I try to install NVDA with ninite after uninstalling it, Ninite gives me an access is denied error.

Idid have AVG but uninstalled it. I realized the other day there are still backround processes running even though I uninstalled it with Revo uninstaller making sure to delete all the leftover files, then going in to regedit and deleting the entire AVG category... but it still will not install. Older versions work just fine. It is just 2016.3 that will not work.

I am currently using 2016.1. I have AVG uninstalled, as well as AVAST.    


Re: Microsoft Edge and forms mode with latest NVDA update

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

Well seeing as it was oK before the anniversary update, one supposes that Microsoft inadvertantly altered something.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Andre Fisher" <andrefisher729@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 4:38 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Microsoft Edge and forms mode with latest NVDA update


It's a bug with NVDA and the anniversary update.
Possible workarounds to not hearing typed characters is to type them
first, then use review cursor (e.g. Numpad 5 for current word, Numpad
1 and 3 to move to previous and next character, etc.). You can also
use notepadanother desktop program like Notepad, then paste it into
the edit field

On 9/7/16, Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...> wrote:
I think the current issue is a bug in windows 10 anniversary edition.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Supanut Leepaisomboon" <@supanut2000>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 10:59 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Microsoft Edge and forms mode with latest NVDA update


To find the add on, go to the add on manager, and tab to the button that
says 'get add ons'. Press enter and Edge or whatever browser you're using
will open. Look for the Windows 10 App Essential add on and download the
stable version. Also if you're like me and had problem where NVDA won't read

typed characters, try uninstalling and re-installing NVDA. I remember I came

across that when I upgraded direct from Windows 7 to 10.





Re: Outlook 2016 almost unusable with NVDA 2016.3

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

I heard this before for both Jaws and nvda on a radio show the other day. it seems office 2016 does not play nice on some peoples machines.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Pranav Lal" <pranav.lal@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 5:09 PM
Subject: [nvda] Outlook 2016 almost unusable with NVDA 2016.3


Hi all,

I am still experiencing the issue where when I am replying or composing a
message, outlook 2016 will hang at random intervals. The only solution is to
reboot my computer.
I have raised the issue at https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/5835

I have also tried outlook in safe mode but I still had the problem.
Os=windows 10 64bit
Windows version = Version 1511 (OS Build 10586.545)



Re: Trouble installing 2016.3

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 


Does it install from the official download OK?
 I gather you are using that site that bundles stuff together, if its any consolation i never did get that to work reliably for anything. I'm going to put on the win 10 machine and try updating a portable version of an older copy and will let you know what happens.
 brian

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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 5:29 PM
Subject: [nvda] Trouble installing 2016.3

I am having a problem downloading NVDA 2016.3 version on windows 10 64 bit.

when I download through NVDA it downloads but does not install.
when I try to run the setup file manually nothing happens, at all, not even an UAC message or something.

when I try to update via Ninite it says the update is not supported.

when I try to install NVDA with ninite after uninstalling it, Ninite gives me an access is denied error.

Idid have AVG but uninstalled it. I realized the other day there are still backround processes running even though I uninstalled it with Revo uninstaller making sure to delete all the leftover files, then going in to regedit and deleting the entire AVG category... but it still will not install. Older versions work just fine. It is just 2016.3 that will not work.

I am currently using 2016.1. I have AVG uninstalled, as well as AVAST.    


Re: you are invited to upgrade to NonVisual Desktop Access 2016.3

Robert Kingett <kingettspeaks@...>
 

Can someone send me 2016.2? I am currently having issues and needed to resort to 2016.1    I wrote about it in another thread.