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Re: Microsoft Edge and forms mode with latest NVDA update

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I think the current issue is a bug in windows 10 anniversary edition.
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Subject: Re: [nvda] Microsoft Edge and forms mode with latest NVDA update


To find the add on, go to the add on manager, and tab to the button that says 'get add ons'. Press enter and Edge or whatever browser you're using will open. Look for the Windows 10 App Essential add on and download the stable version. Also if you're like me and had problem where NVDA won't read typed characters, try uninstalling and re-installing NVDA. I remember I came across that when I upgraded direct from Windows 7 to 10.


Re: Facebook on Chrome with NVDA

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That is not the issue, its lack of testing with any screenreader despite google having an accessible mail list all one gets is apologies and waffle every time. i gave up on them long ago.
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I long for the same. Someone should tell Google or the Chromium project to improve support for NVDA.


Re: Facebook on Chrome with NVDA

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The issue about Chrome is the version of the code used in fact. Its Chrome that seems to update without asking and uses the latest version all the time.
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Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 10:02 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Facebook on Chrome with NVDA


Well all the mozilla programs, thunderbird/firefox/etc use the chrome engine somehow.
Yeah google chrome is not accessible necessarily, but obviously the engine deffinitely is.
The interface is another issue however.
Most addons use standard controls to.



On 7/09/2016 6:10 p.m., Felix G. wrote:
Recent versions of Firefox have become more laggy, speech-redundant and
unpredictable for me with NVDA as well. Still, it has the best coverage in
terms of accessibility, which is to say, things may work in a sluggish way
but they do work. The only real pain that I am having with Firefox is I
know of no way to receive feedback once a site has finished assembling
itself in terms of scripts loading other scripts loading other content and
so on. So I often start reading before the ajax storm abates, and the
dynamics keep throwing off my cursor or lead to painful lags.
Greetings,
Felix

Supanut Leepaisomboon <@supanut2000> schrieb am Mi., 7. Sep.
2016 um 01:15 Uhr:

Did you try using Firefox on sites with Flash, like Youtube? From my
experience with Jaws Firefox lags a lot if I click to play Flash content,
but I'm not sure if this is also the case with NVDA. Feedback on this
matter would be appreciated. Also has anyone experienced lags when using
Firefox with Outlook.com along with NVDA?


Re: Facebook on Chrome with NVDA

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One think people do not appreciate is that you need to test drive the adblockrs and decide which slows the machine the least but still removes most of what you want removed. Some are hogs.
Also as has been said, in order to run faster, many programs stache themselves in memory, reducing that available and forcing that virtual memory slow down of using the hard drive. I have also found that solid state drives for the amin drive speeds up everything.
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From: "Shaun Everiss" <@smeveriss>
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Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 9:53 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Facebook on Chrome with NVDA


Hmmm I have never tried firefox on a serface, but the i5 2.4ghz dule and 4gb ram is enough with the amd 1gb vidcard.
Your system needs a good reconfig.
Generally what I do with any new system is to first give it a good reformat which always fixes things.
Then reinstall everything and ask the user if they need it or not and update what they need.
The first thing that goes is usually the security suite and other malware tools because the comercial ones slow the system down.
Next on the list is usually spotify/itunes/skype because they use a lot of power and ram.
Next are the cloud services, if you don't need bt sync/dropbox/googledrive/onedrive running 24/7 or at least at startup that takes a lot off the system.
In theory all you should at least as a blink have at startup are.
1. your antivirus and or other security program, your drivers for essential hardware, and your screen reader.
No soundcard or display enhancements nothing like that.
It gets harder for those I work with that want 4 cloud systems going, skype, spotify, itunes, their own personal web server and something else.
It means a lot of memmory I can't get access to.
Even with the latest updates and even with all drivers updated, drives scanned and defraged anti virused, etc there still can be problems.
Most people actually think when the system is set up even via a recovery disk that it just works.
Your system is usually set up so someone can demo it in a shop or something.
By default its just the default and thats usually crap.
On my toshiba I pulled the fingerprint security, the network configuration and several other features because they were either useless or just not needed.
I also did the change the enhancements to nothing, and turn all bios keyboard hooks off so they didn't get in the way.
Where you can it doesn't hurt to get the latest drivers and bios while you're at it.
And even if you don't you should note what you use.
You should have a base configuration for all your systems.
Mine for example is either msse/ whatever security software they use weather it be windows defender, avg or something unless its norton or some hog like that.
ccleaner, defragler, 7zip vlc audacity, winlame cd burner xp, chrome and or firefox.
Firefox has better privacy, nav sounds add block + and noscript.
Thats the basic configuration.
It allows me basic recording, file compression, cd creation, full access to critical functions, etc.
On those systems where the space is small, I reduce it to the minimum, ccleaner, defragler, security software, 7zip, and thats about it.
My system has the ability for youtube conversion, video to mp3 functions, a dvd audio extracter, a couple of game file hack tools, a lite weight processer and a lot of games and other datafiles but my config doesn't differ that much from base.
On my dad's side he has itunes for his devices, office, several software packages for his gps including mapping software.
In my brothers its office, and his speech recognition package, as well as that he has functions for his various cameras and mobile devices.
My dad also has the camera functions.
In all base configs, I have java for java apps, klite mega for codecs, all visual c runtimes from 2005 to whatever the latest is, dotnet from what is the most compatible version in xp thats 1.1 to 4.6, on 7, its 5.0 based net frame means I don't need that extra junk.
I also have directx 9 or whatever the latest is running, vb6 extended and a few other misc things.
Anyway once you have a base, you find what you don't and do need.
Firstly take note of all your programs you have installed and find out what you need and what you don't.
Find out what is starting up, and well what you need, search for it if you want.
Next see if there are drivers, etc to update.
Look at all the programs you have, and what you need, see how much they cost to update, free and opensource should be updated whenever.
Low cost programs should be especially if they have a licence for lifetimes and bigger stuff, well you need to decide if you need it and budget accordingly.
Point is by this time you should have a good idea of what you have, and why.
Next is the hard part.
With all your programs in front of you, do a full reformat and reload from scratch.
As you reload see what you need, I have often cleared out things that way.
Once you are done you have a slick config.
The trick is sticking with it.
I don't fiddle that much, on my personal workstation with backups, I do let myself doodle round the edge, I have not needed to reformat yet though some stuff is broken.
On other workstations I have I load everythihng that is needed and improve experience of the users.
On others, I generally do what I need to do and get out.
The average jo public isn't going to give you credit if you fiddle round and if it breaks its a headake for you and time for him.
And becides you want to get in, fix whatever and exit.
Pulling his unencripted music collection along the way maybe.
Thing is once you have a stable config unless you get a virus, hardware failier or a bug jumps down your power fan, your system shouldn't fail or need another format.
Most users sadly run in default mode then wander why its broke.
Even if you don't reformat you can still adopt some of the steps, its not really as good if you don't reformat but if you are diligent you can make the best of a bad situation.
Ie even though I have adobe acrobat, flash,etc on various systems, fact is one of the boxes here needs a good reformat, but I have been able to get round some of its issues to work with it.
There is a big hole in my own workstation but right now I need no accessing that broken bit and its not gotten worse.



On 7/09/2016 7:12 p.m., Supanut Leepaisomboon wrote:
I agree. The main reason I'm looking towards Chrome is because I think it's faster and less laggy on a laptop. Though if I do get a new laptop that is more powerful than my Surface 3, then it may not actually matter...


Re: Microsoft Edge and forms mode with latest NVDA update

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Its a bug in the anniversary update, as mine worked till that was downloaded and installed.
Such is life, two steps forward, and one back. I have stopped edge being runexcept in the search assistandt with the stupid name.
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Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 9:52 AM
Subject: [nvda] Microsoft Edge and forms mode with latest NVDA update


Hi,
We're using Windows 10 and the latest release of NVDA. I'm sorry if this question was posed before and answered. I missed it somehow. I heard that with the latest update to NVDA, the Edge was supposed to be more accessible? In some ways, it is, but does anyone know how to easily fill out forms here? We can force it into forms mode, but it will read nothing we type. Is this a problem for just us or something that is a problem still for everyone and maybe will get fixed in the next NVDA release? Thanks.
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Re: NVDA 2016.3

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If you go back does it then work for you. I'd be interested in the synth in use, if its, for example the dodgy free Eloquence this effect is to be expected as that was a very old and dodgy add on.
However if its espeak and everything else this is far more serious.
I've just updated several machines both installed and portable with no issues, though in one case I had to do a manual restart when it went nto sulk mode, but that rebooted fine.
Maybe we need more detail.
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Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 7:54 AM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA 2016.3


To all listers
I installed NVDA 2016.3 yesterday, and it does not speaks when I navigate within Windows explorer on my laptop running Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit.
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Re: Facebook on Chrome with NVDA

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Navigational sounds surely puts out a little tone after page loading.
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Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 7:10 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Facebook on Chrome with NVDA


Recent versions of Firefox have become more laggy, speech-redundant and
unpredictable for me with NVDA as well. Still, it has the best coverage in
terms of accessibility, which is to say, things may work in a sluggish way
but they do work. The only real pain that I am having with Firefox is I
know of no way to receive feedback once a site has finished assembling
itself in terms of scripts loading other scripts loading other content and
so on. So I often start reading before the ajax storm abates, and the
dynamics keep throwing off my cursor or lead to painful lags.
Greetings,
Felix

Supanut Leepaisomboon <@supanut2000> schrieb am Mi., 7. Sep.
2016 um 01:15 Uhr:

Did you try using Firefox on sites with Flash, like Youtube? From my
experience with Jaws Firefox lags a lot if I click to play Flash content,
but I'm not sure if this is also the case with NVDA. Feedback on this
matter would be appreciated. Also has anyone experienced lags when using
Firefox with Outlook.com along with NVDA?


Re: text to mp3 with an nvda voice addon?

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What about Virtual recorder?
Brian

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From: "Roger Stewart" <paganus2@...>
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Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 1:22 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] text to mp3 with an nvda voice addon?


Maybe some program that lets you record what you hear and save it as mp3. I know Goldwave will do this but it isn't free but is very low priced for its power but I'm sure there are other programs that will do this and some should be free.

Roger







On 9/6/2016 5:46 PM, multi 85 wrote:
Hi
I know there are programs that convert text to mp3, but they find and
choose the voice independently, so you must have the Sappi voice. Is
there instead some sort of way that I could use a program or a method
that could use the voices I have which are nvda addons and somehow use
my nvda reading settings to convert a text that I am reading into mp3
to use on an Ipod? Basically, these programs then sort of force you to
purchase a voice you like twice if you want to convert, once for NVDA,
and then another time for the converting program and your sappi stuff,
so I'm hoping there's a better solution?




Re: Microsoft Edge and forms mode with latest NVDA update

 

To find the add on, go to the add on manager, and tab to the button that says 'get add ons'. Press enter and Edge or whatever browser you're using will open. Look for the Windows 10 App Essential add on and download the stable version. Also if you're like me and had problem where NVDA won't read typed characters, try uninstalling and re-installing NVDA. I remember I came across that when I upgraded direct from Windows 7 to 10.


Re: Facebook on Chrome with NVDA

 

I long for the same. Someone should tell Google or the Chromium project to improve support for NVDA.


Re: Microsoft Edge and forms mode with latest NVDA update

Lisa P Geibel
 

Hi,
Thanks much. Where can I find this apps essentials addon for 10

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On 9/7/16 5:07 AM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
I am not sure with edge.
But even if you have the latest nvda you need to have installed the apps
essentials addon for 10 to have full functionality.
Since win10 is always changing and there is a bit of a lag betwene nvda
releases, the apps addon updates a lot faster.
It can happen that not everything is in nvda and a lot is in apps.
Because of the dynamic changing of apps, stable nvda takes a while to be
updated and some stuff just isn't covered with nvda.
Joseph lee tries as hard as he can including but not limited to taking
nights without sleep if you are able to believe the messages over the
dev group on skype to get and keep the addon updated as much as he can.
Even with that the way ms is with this dynamic os, its quite hard to
keep up with it anyway.



On 7/09/2016 8:52 p.m., Lisa P Geibel wrote:
Hi,
We're using Windows 10 and the latest release of NVDA. I'm sorry if this
question was posed before and answered. I missed it somehow. I heard
that with the latest update to NVDA, the Edge was supposed to be more
accessible? In some ways, it is, but does anyone know how to easily fill
out forms here? We can force it into forms mode, but it will read
nothing we type. Is this a problem for just us or something that is a
problem still for everyone and maybe will get fixed in the next NVDA
release? Thanks.


Re: you are invited to upgrade to NonVisual Desktop Access 2016.3

Kerry Painter <littlemisslovely1973@...>
 

I had exactly the opposite problem. I downloaded 16.3, then, yesterday when I launched NVDA, I was told that there was an update. Strange :-)

Sent from my iPhone

On 6 Sep 2016, at 19:43, Roger Stewart <paganus2@...> wrote:

Strange in that I got no automatic notification that this update was available. This has always worked in the past. I was able to manually check for updates and it came up and I updated just fine but just wondering why it didn't automatically alert for me.

Thanks.

Roger











On 9/6/2016 1:33 PM, Lino Morales wrote:

Kerry. Write me off list please about your hubsta's show at:

lino.jr@...

Thanks.


On 9/6/2016 11:29 AM, Kerry Fielding wrote:

Hi Joseph.  I’ll pass this on.  You probably won’t get anything from him until at least Friday.  He’s on aire tomorrow and Thursday night so won’t be doing any messing with SPL until after then.

 

Kerry

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: 06 September 2016 15:58
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] you are invited to upgrade to NonVisual Desktop Access 2016.3

 

Hi Kerry,

Regarding SPL, could you ask your husband to write to me (current maintainer of SPL add-on for NVDA) privately? Thanks.

Cheers,

joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kerry Fielding
Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 3:30 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] you are invited to upgrade to NonVisual Desktop Access 2016.3

 

I downloaded this yesterday and associated draft not being spoken in outlook 2016 is much welcomed.  It drove me crazy.  I just want to say that from a JFW user’s perspective, you guys are almost there in converting me to a full NVDA user.  I’m finding now that especially for tabular information, NVDA works much better for me and I think my husband may be tempted to use it himself.  He just has the little issue of Station Playlist Studio and Station Playlist Streamer which will be the things that hold him back I suspect.

 

You guys rock!!!!!! As for testers, I’d be very pleased to help with any testing necessary.  I’m probably not as geeky as some testers on this list but as someone who is an extremely advanced computer user and uses their computer for working from home and for leisure purposes it’s in my best interests to ensure that screenreader accessibility is not just limited to those that can afford the expensive stuff.  I’m also very very excited to see what happens in November.  Cheap braille?  Mouthwatering!  Something I’ve longed for for a long time and given I can’t get any support from Access To Work because my turnover isn’t what they consider to be worthy, it looks like I’m saving for a braille display.

 

Kerry

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: 06 September 2016 07:15
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] you are invited to upgrade to NonVisual Desktop Access 2016.3

 

Dear citizens of the NVDA land:

 

Yes, it is official: one of the ministers of NVDA land, a certain Mr. Teh, has just ordered the horsemen to announce a good news throughout the land:

 

NVDA 2016.3 is officially out:

http://www.nvaccess.org/post/announcing-nvda-2016-3-release/

 

So what’s new, changed and fixed:

 

From RC2: no changes.

 

Highlights:

 

·         You can now disable individual add-ons.

·         NVDA is more cofmpatible with Windows 10 Anniversary Update (version 1607). Among the things included are return of browse mode in Edge, announcing newer UAC prompts, ability to navigate PDF documents in Edge and more.

·         NVDA+F9/NVDA+F10 command behavior change is now official.

·         Color announcement has been simplified.

·         NVDA no longer announces “associated draft” in Outlook 2016.

·         NVDA can now announce line spacing in Microsoft Word.

·         Various enhancements.

 

A sneak preview at 2016.4: three game-changing features will be served as part of Thanksgiving Party this November:

 

·         Ever wanted to hear line indentation via beeps? You can do that starting in November.

·         Want to experience the next chapter in assistive technology history? Or would you like to be one of the first ones to experience a combination of a free screen reader and a low-cost braille display? Stay tuned, as this combination will change your life in November.

·         Needed an assistant in persuading web or app developers about accessibility needs of screen reader users? The wait is almost over: let NVDA volunteer for you from November onwards.

 

The rest: let’s just say the ministers at NVDA land are holding council every day, looking over this land and thinking about the needs of citizens and planning the next great adventure for the people of this land.

 

Personally, I’m excited to see what NVDA can do in opening opportunities for many people, particularly for those who’re using Windows 10. On behalf of people who’ve contributed to NVDA 2016.3 development, I wish you best in your endeavor as you use NVDA 2016.3 in various places (work, school, for fun and in unexpected places). Also, NVDA 2016.3 release announcement will be my final NVDA release announcement (on this list), as I believe the community is ready to welcome new reporters.

 

Thanks.

Cheers,

Joseph


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Re: Facebook on Chrome with NVDA

Kerry Painter <littlemisslovely1973@...>
 

I agree with everyone here. Chrome is definitely the fastest browser. However, NVDA with Firefox is way better than Firefox with jaws.  I long for the day when we can use chrome properly.



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On 7 Sep 2016, at 08:12, Supanut Leepaisomboon <supanut2000@...> wrote:

I agree. The main reason I'm looking towards Chrome is because I think it's faster and less laggy on a laptop. Though if I do get a new laptop that is more powerful than my Surface 3, then it may not actually matter...


Re: Facebook on Chrome with NVDA

 

Another feature I like about Chrome is that it syncs my Chrome profile with the cloud. For instance when I installed Chrome and signed in, it automatically install all of my extensions, not sure if it also got my browsing and form history, haven't really check. I know there is the Firefox Sync feature, but have stopped using it long ago.


Re: Microsoft Edge and forms mode with latest NVDA update

 

I am not sure with edge.
But even if you have the latest nvda you need to have installed the apps essentials addon for 10 to have full functionality.
Since win10 is always changing and there is a bit of a lag betwene nvda releases, the apps addon updates a lot faster.
It can happen that not everything is in nvda and a lot is in apps.
Because of the dynamic changing of apps, stable nvda takes a while to be updated and some stuff just isn't covered with nvda.
Joseph lee tries as hard as he can including but not limited to taking nights without sleep if you are able to believe the messages over the dev group on skype to get and keep the addon updated as much as he can.
Even with that the way ms is with this dynamic os, its quite hard to keep up with it anyway.

On 7/09/2016 8:52 p.m., Lisa P Geibel wrote:
Hi,
We're using Windows 10 and the latest release of NVDA. I'm sorry if this
question was posed before and answered. I missed it somehow. I heard
that with the latest update to NVDA, the Edge was supposed to be more
accessible? In some ways, it is, but does anyone know how to easily fill
out forms here? We can force it into forms mode, but it will read
nothing we type. Is this a problem for just us or something that is a
problem still for everyone and maybe will get fixed in the next NVDA
release? Thanks.


Re: Facebook on Chrome with NVDA

 

Well all the mozilla programs, thunderbird/firefox/etc use the chrome engine somehow.
Yeah google chrome is not accessible necessarily, but obviously the engine deffinitely is.
The interface is another issue however.
Most addons use standard controls to.

On 7/09/2016 6:10 p.m., Felix G. wrote:
Recent versions of Firefox have become more laggy, speech-redundant and
unpredictable for me with NVDA as well. Still, it has the best coverage in
terms of accessibility, which is to say, things may work in a sluggish way
but they do work. The only real pain that I am having with Firefox is I
know of no way to receive feedback once a site has finished assembling
itself in terms of scripts loading other scripts loading other content and
so on. So I often start reading before the ajax storm abates, and the
dynamics keep throwing off my cursor or lead to painful lags.
Greetings,
Felix

Supanut Leepaisomboon <@supanut2000> schrieb am Mi., 7. Sep.
2016 um 01:15 Uhr:

Did you try using Firefox on sites with Flash, like Youtube? From my
experience with Jaws Firefox lags a lot if I click to play Flash content,
but I'm not sure if this is also the case with NVDA. Feedback on this
matter would be appreciated. Also has anyone experienced lags when using
Firefox with Outlook.com along with NVDA?


Re: Microsoft Edge and forms mode with latest NVDA update

Chris
 

Its just not edge also in mail app settings app Cortana etc major issue

 

 

 

 

From: Lisa P Geibel
Sent: 07 September 2016 09:52
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Microsoft Edge and forms mode with latest NVDA update

 

Hi,

We're using Windows 10 and the latest release of NVDA. I'm sorry if this

question was posed before and answered. I missed it somehow. I heard

that with the latest update to NVDA, the Edge was supposed to be more

accessible? In some ways, it is, but does anyone know how to easily fill

out forms here? We can force it into forms mode, but it will read

nothing we type. Is this a problem for just us or something that is a

problem still for everyone and maybe will get fixed in the next NVDA

release? Thanks.

--

Lisa

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Facebook: http://facebook.com/ldporter1

Twitter: http://twitter.com/LisaLisa429

Philmore box shared with hubby:

773-572-7897

God bless everyone!!!

 

 

 


Re: Facebook on Chrome with NVDA

 

Hmmm I have never tried firefox on a serface, but the i5 2.4ghz dule and 4gb ram is enough with the amd 1gb vidcard.
Your system needs a good reconfig.
Generally what I do with any new system is to first give it a good reformat which always fixes things.
Then reinstall everything and ask the user if they need it or not and update what they need.
The first thing that goes is usually the security suite and other malware tools because the comercial ones slow the system down.
Next on the list is usually spotify/itunes/skype because they use a lot of power and ram.
Next are the cloud services, if you don't need bt sync/dropbox/googledrive/onedrive running 24/7 or at least at startup that takes a lot off the system.
In theory all you should at least as a blink have at startup are.
1. your antivirus and or other security program, your drivers for essential hardware, and your screen reader.
No soundcard or display enhancements nothing like that.
It gets harder for those I work with that want 4 cloud systems going, skype, spotify, itunes, their own personal web server and something else.
It means a lot of memmory I can't get access to.
Even with the latest updates and even with all drivers updated, drives scanned and defraged anti virused, etc there still can be problems.
Most people actually think when the system is set up even via a recovery disk that it just works.
Your system is usually set up so someone can demo it in a shop or something.
By default its just the default and thats usually crap.
On my toshiba I pulled the fingerprint security, the network configuration and several other features because they were either useless or just not needed.
I also did the change the enhancements to nothing, and turn all bios keyboard hooks off so they didn't get in the way.
Where you can it doesn't hurt to get the latest drivers and bios while you're at it.
And even if you don't you should note what you use.
You should have a base configuration for all your systems.
Mine for example is either msse/ whatever security software they use weather it be windows defender, avg or something unless its norton or some hog like that.
ccleaner, defragler, 7zip vlc audacity, winlame cd burner xp, chrome and or firefox.
Firefox has better privacy, nav sounds add block + and noscript.
Thats the basic configuration.
It allows me basic recording, file compression, cd creation, full access to critical functions, etc.
On those systems where the space is small, I reduce it to the minimum, ccleaner, defragler, security software, 7zip, and thats about it.
My system has the ability for youtube conversion, video to mp3 functions, a dvd audio extracter, a couple of game file hack tools, a lite weight processer and a lot of games and other datafiles but my config doesn't differ that much from base.
On my dad's side he has itunes for his devices, office, several software packages for his gps including mapping software.
In my brothers its office, and his speech recognition package, as well as that he has functions for his various cameras and mobile devices.
My dad also has the camera functions.
In all base configs, I have java for java apps, klite mega for codecs, all visual c runtimes from 2005 to whatever the latest is, dotnet from what is the most compatible version in xp thats 1.1 to 4.6, on 7, its 5.0 based net frame means I don't need that extra junk.
I also have directx 9 or whatever the latest is running, vb6 extended and a few other misc things.
Anyway once you have a base, you find what you don't and do need.
Firstly take note of all your programs you have installed and find out what you need and what you don't.
Find out what is starting up, and well what you need, search for it if you want.
Next see if there are drivers, etc to update.
Look at all the programs you have, and what you need, see how much they cost to update, free and opensource should be updated whenever.
Low cost programs should be especially if they have a licence for lifetimes and bigger stuff, well you need to decide if you need it and budget accordingly.
Point is by this time you should have a good idea of what you have, and why.
Next is the hard part.
With all your programs in front of you, do a full reformat and reload from scratch.
As you reload see what you need, I have often cleared out things that way.
Once you are done you have a slick config.
The trick is sticking with it.
I don't fiddle that much, on my personal workstation with backups, I do let myself doodle round the edge, I have not needed to reformat yet though some stuff is broken.
On other workstations I have I load everythihng that is needed and improve experience of the users.
On others, I generally do what I need to do and get out.
The average jo public isn't going to give you credit if you fiddle round and if it breaks its a headake for you and time for him.
And becides you want to get in, fix whatever and exit.
Pulling his unencripted music collection along the way maybe.
Thing is once you have a stable config unless you get a virus, hardware failier or a bug jumps down your power fan, your system shouldn't fail or need another format.
Most users sadly run in default mode then wander why its broke.
Even if you don't reformat you can still adopt some of the steps, its not really as good if you don't reformat but if you are diligent you can make the best of a bad situation.
Ie even though I have adobe acrobat, flash,etc on various systems, fact is one of the boxes here needs a good reformat, but I have been able to get round some of its issues to work with it.
There is a big hole in my own workstation but right now I need no accessing that broken bit and its not gotten worse.

On 7/09/2016 7:12 p.m., Supanut Leepaisomboon wrote:
I agree. The main reason I'm looking towards Chrome is because I think it's faster and less laggy on a laptop. Though if I do get a new laptop that is more powerful than my Surface 3, then it may not actually matter...


Microsoft Edge and forms mode with latest NVDA update

Lisa P Geibel
 

Hi,
We're using Windows 10 and the latest release of NVDA. I'm sorry if this question was posed before and answered. I missed it somehow. I heard that with the latest update to NVDA, the Edge was supposed to be more accessible? In some ways, it is, but does anyone know how to easily fill out forms here? We can force it into forms mode, but it will read nothing we type. Is this a problem for just us or something that is a problem still for everyone and maybe will get fixed in the next NVDA release? Thanks.
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Re: NVDA 2016.3 and Speech hub

Devin Prater
 

Speechhub is an NVDA addon which allows faster, more responsive access to different speech synthesizers.


On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 2:31 AM nasrin khaksar <nasrinkhaksar3@...> wrote:
excuse me.
whats speechhub?

On 9/7/16, Isaac Porat <isaac@...> wrote:
> Hi
>
>
> First do not listen to anybody recommending you to install Java 7, it is
> not safe, it has various security holes!
>
> So assuming you have only Java 8 on your system, if you have Java 7
> remove it.
>
>
> SpeechHub and SpeakOn are designed to work with Java 8 for over two years.
>
>
> The problem you are having (only occurs on some machines for some
> reason)  is that the upgrade from Java 7 to Java 8 did not work
> properly, it is a Java problem not a SpeechHub one, no Java would work
> on your system until it is fixed but the solution is simple; you don't
> have to uninstall anything, do the following:
>
>
> There is a Java 8 installation problem after installing java 8 (jdk &
> jre) on a system already running (or used to run) Java 7.
> Without going into technicalities, the Java 8 installer leaves (it
> should not) three files which needs to be removed manually for Java to
> work these are:
>   java.exe, javaw.exe & javaws.exe in the Windows system folder.
> So, the solution is to check if these files are present in your windows
> system folder and if so, simply to delete the 3 Java exes, as above.
> If you are running 32-bit Java on a 64-bit Windows, the exes would be in
> Windows\SysWOW64, otherwise in Windows\System32.
>
> Good luck
>
> Regards
> Isaac
>
>
>
>
>
> On 06/09/2016 19:00, Life My Way via Groups.io wrote:
>> this is what i get when trying to install the speech hub program that
>> installs fine but when i try and install the add on this is what i get.
>>
>> Java Virtual Machine Launcher
>> Error: Registry key 'Software\JavaSoft\Java Runtime
>> Environment'\CurrentVersion'has value '1.8', but '1.7' is required.
>> OK
>>
>>
>>
>> Please advise.
>>
>> On 9/6/2016 9:39 AM, Isaac Porat wrote:
>>> Hi
>>>
>>>
>>> As I said I maintain SpeechHub, No new features since July 2015 but I
>>> make sure everything works as I use it myself.
>>>
>>>
>>> I have tried SpeechHub with the  NVDA latest version 2016.3 and it
>>> works fine.
>>>
>>>
>>> Assuming you installed SpeechHub and have installed the NVDA add-on
>>> supplied with the installer (instructions on the website) it should
>>> work.
>>>
>>> It works well with Java 8 (Java 7 is insecure if you have it, you
>>> should remove it anyway).
>>> A problem encountered by some people is with their firewall.
>>> SpeechHub is an internal server and you need to make sure that Java
>>> is allowed to communicate.
>>>
>>> If anybody has a problem, you are welcome to contact me at:
>>>
>>> speechhub@...
>>>
>>>
>>> The website is at:
>>> www.speechhub.org
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Isaac
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 06/09/2016 07:57, Dang Manh Cuong wrote:
>>>> To all listers
>>>> Using NVDA 2016.3RC2, and the speech hub add-on didn't work. Try
>>>> reinstall, and NvDA faild to install that add-on.
>>>> Just a quick report.
>>>> Cuong
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