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GoldWave add-on 19.11 #addonrelease

 

Hi all,

 

GoldWave add-on 19.11 is now available. In addition to internal changes, this version adds a custom help message for sound window (only seen if Control Usage Assistant add-on is installed) and drops support for NVDA releases earlier than 2019.1. As always, the new update can be found on community add-ons website or via Add-on Updater.

 

IMPORTANT: from add-on 19.11 onwards, the following combination is required:

 

  • NVDA 2019.1 or later
  • Windows 7 Service Pack 1 or later
  • GoldWave 6 or later

 

A release scheduled for early 2020 will require NVDA 2019.3 or later to align with other add-ons. For people needing to use old GoldWave releases and/or using old NVDA versions, add-on 19.04.1 can be found at:

https://github.com/josephsl/goldWave/releases/download/19.04/goldwave-19.04.1.nvda-addon

 

Cheers,

Joseph

Hims braille displays issue

Patrick ZAJDA
 

Hello,


Some users have reported me they cannot use their Hims braille display using USB with NVDA.


For someone it is with a BrailleSense, for the second person it is a Brailleedge.

When they connect the display to by USB, NVDA display a dialog because it is not recognized.


The Hims USB driver is installed.


A precision, it worked before NVDA 2019.1 for the brailleedge.


Does someone has encountered the same issue and does someone has succeeded in resolve it to be able to use with NVDA 2019.2.1 ?


Best regards,


--
Patrick ZAJDA

Re: NVDACon 2019

Adriani Botez
 

You can see where the conference is held if you access the link “how to join us”from the menu bar of the website.

 

The time script that converts the times for the presentations from utc to your local time zone works unfortunately only in Firefox and maybe Chrome. Thus, if you read it with your fone you should use one of those browsers.

 

Best

Adriani

 

 

Von: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Im Auftrag von Dale Leavens
Gesendet: Sonntag, 10. November 2019 17:45
An: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Betreff: Re: [nvda] NVDACon 2019

 

The link doesn’t show any information about where the conference is being held, anything about accommodation and how ever the times are coded they can’t be read on my iPhone but are annnounced as something like invalid format.

 

Hope it is all successful.

 

Cheers.

 

Dale Leavens



On Nov 10, 2019, at 9:44 AM, Adriani Botez <adriani.botez@...> wrote:



Dear NVDA community,

 

after more than 8 months in which we spent exciting time together to organize the NVDACon 2019, we are almost there!

 

The conference will start on november 15th 2019 at 21:00 UTC with the opening forum as everyone should already know.

 

This year’s conference is held for the first time in november. Join us on a very inlightning jurney during which we will find out that NVDA is everywhere!

This year we will be proud to have Google as well as Firefox on our conference. For more details, check the preliminary schedule at

https://www.nvdacon.org/2019-program-and-schedule

 

In any case, there are plenty of reasons why this NVDACon will be unique!

 

We will be glad to see you at NVDACon 2019.

 

Best regards

Adriani

Co chair of NVDACon board team

Re: NVDACon 2019

Dale Leavens
 

The link doesn’t show any information about where the conference is being held, anything about accommodation and how ever the times are coded they can’t be read on my iPhone but are annnounced as something like invalid format.

Hope it is all successful.

Cheers.


Dale Leavens

On Nov 10, 2019, at 9:44 AM, Adriani Botez <adriani.botez@...> wrote:



Dear NVDA community,

 

after more than 8 months in which we spent exciting time together to organize the NVDACon 2019, we are almost there!

 

The conference will start on november 15th 2019 at 21:00 UTC with the opening forum as everyone should already know.

 

This year’s conference is held for the first time in november. Join us on a very inlightning jurney during which we will find out that NVDA is everywhere!

This year we will be proud to have Google as well as Firefox on our conference. For more details, check the preliminary schedule at

https://www.nvdacon.org/2019-program-and-schedule

 

In any case, there are plenty of reasons why this NVDACon will be unique!

 

We will be glad to see you at NVDACon 2019.

 

Best regards

Adriani

Co chair of NVDACon board team

NVDACon modarators

Adriani Botez
 

Dear NVDA community,

 

since many years the community conference NVDACon is held and organized by different people on a voluntary basis. People who are engaged, who love the social interaction in this community and who are committed to this big social movement called NVDA.

 

If you feel and live the same values as described above, then please contact us at info@... and help us to moderate the conference next weekend!

Play audio games in breaks between sessions, stream your own music projects that you created with NVDA and the audio software of your choice, be one of the moderators in different sessions, look over the chat and be responsible for a friendly and nice conversation without forbidden content or abusing / discriminatory behavior.

 

If you wantto moderate with us together the NVDACon 2019, please apply at info@... and include your data (email address, name, teamtalk user name, teamtalk experience) and a short description of your moderation experience in the past.

 

Thank you for your valuable help in advance.

 

Best regards

Adriani

Co chair of NVDACon board team

 

NVDACon 2019

Adriani Botez
 

Dear NVDA community,

 

after more than 8 months in which we spent exciting time together to organize the NVDACon 2019, we are almost there!

 

The conference will start on november 15th 2019 at 21:00 UTC with the opening forum as everyone should already know.

 

This year’s conference is held for the first time in november. Join us on a very inlightning jurney during which we will find out that NVDA is everywhere!

This year we will be proud to have Google as well as Firefox on our conference. For more details, check the preliminary schedule at

https://www.nvdacon.org/2019-program-and-schedule

 

In any case, there are plenty of reasons why this NVDACon will be unique!

 

We will be glad to see you at NVDACon 2019.

 

Best regards

Adriani

Co chair of NVDACon board team

NVDA store app gets UIAccess capabilities.

 

This has been merged into the master branch, so that's a really good thing! I'm also writing to Microsoft feedback a lot about allowing for things like font a tributes to be natively supported into the windows accessibility, UI thing. LOL! In my feedback to microsoft I was way more awake and precise, but anyway, check this out below. I included the Git page and some copied text that explains this a bit better.

The git page in question.

Summary of the issue:

So far, NvDA packaged as a Windows Store app (whether side-loaded or instaled from the Store itself) has not been able to provide audio ducking, touch interaction, or access to elevated apps. However, in recent Windows insider builds, it has no become possible to request the UIAccess privilege from a Desktop Bridge packaged store app.

Re: NVDA+Outlook, and number of new messages

Cordelia Scharpf
 

Hi, David:

 

I used neither JAWS nor WindowsEyes as a screen reader. The company that designed mine went out of business, hence I must switch to a new screen reader. But thanks nonetheless. I’ll do the learning.

 

Best regards,

Cordelia

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 12:17 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [Spam] Re: [nvda] NVDA+Outlook, and number of new messages

 

If you are talking about Jaws I have to use the same techniques as below using Jaws 2020 and Outlook subscription version to find out the number of unread emails. In other words it is the same as NVDA now unless there is a command in Jaws I am not aware of.

I was only an occasional user of Window Eyes so I do not know if this was a feature it had.

David Griffith

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Cordelia Scharpf
Sent: 09 November 2019 07:13
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA+Outlook, and number of new messages

 

Many thanks, Cearbhall, for that tip. The screen reader I have been using

for years displays such information right away when I open Outlook. I guess

I will have to do some learning when switching to NVDA as my primary screen

reader.

 

Best regards,

Cordelia

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of

Cearbhall O'Meadhra

Sent: Friday, November 08, 2019 7:19 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA+Outlook, and number of new messages

 

Cordelia,

 

Close all open emails and make sure that your cursor is resting on any

closed message in the current folder.

Press control+Shif+tab to opens the "Folder List". NVDA announces "Folder

List minimised".

Press space bar to expand the list.

Arrow down to the folder you want.

Note that NVDA speaks the number of messages contained in the folder after

giving the folder name.

 

 

You can also open the Folder List by using control+y but this view of the

list does not show the number of emails contained in each folder.

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cordelia

Scharpf

Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 5:25 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: [nvda] NVDA+Outlook, and number of new messages

 

Hi:

 

I am looking for a method in NVDA to determine the number of new messages

arriving in Outlook's in-box, spam folder, and junk mail. Does NVDA offer

such info without my having to arrow up and down each list in each folder?

Thanks.

 

Cordelia

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Re: python text editors

 

Having done a few programming classes in the past.

notepad works just fine, however you need to know what you are doing.

Notepad++, there is note tab and such.


What you need is a syntax checking editor, searching editors for python or python3 will bring up some.

Programming editorswould bring up some.

I can't promise anything but most editors are accessible or should be most I have used have used normal controls but who knows.

This page

https://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonEditors

should list you most of what you want.

notepad++ is a choice.


On 10/11/2019 6:14 am, Brian Vogel wrote:
Recommendations for text editors that are both Python and NVDA friendly are just fine on the main group, as is discussion of any NVDA setting(s) to make the two things "play well together."

Any deep dives into using a specific editor with NVDA, which will focus on that text editor rather than NVDA, should be taken to the Chat Subgroup. 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362  

The color of truth is grey.

           ~ André Gide

 

 

problem with pyinstaller

bhanu computer
 

hi all
if you know pyinstaller in python i've made exe files using pyinstaller with lucia gaming framework it used pygame dependency while creating the exe i got worning saying Hiden import pygame._view not found if i add import pygame._view in to my program then also not working exe is not working.
can any one give me the solution for it?
thankyou

Control Usage Assistant generation 3/19.11 released #addonrelease

 

Hi everyone,

 

Just in time for NVDACon 2019: Control Usage Assistant 19.11 aka generation 3.0 is now available. Not only add-on internals have changed, it also comes with a brand new help screen. The command is still the same: NVDA+H.

 

The biggest user-visible change is how the help message is shown. In previous releases, when you press NVDA+H, NVDA will present help message in speech and braille, so there was no way to review individual parts. In generation 3, help messages are shown inside a browse mode document so you can review help messages at your leisure.

 

Another big change: help messages are extensible. That is, any add-on that defines custom logic for various controls (also known as “overlay classes”) can define help messages for controls. To do so, any overlay class can define a “helpText” attribute (without quotes) that presents a help message string. If this attribute is found, Control Usage Assistant will present your custom help message, otherwise default message (based on control’s role) will be displayed. GoldWave add-on will be the first one to take advantage of this.

 

IMPORTANT NOTES:

 

  • Control Usage Assistant is compatible with NVDA 2019.3 (alpha form).
  • Version 19.11.x is the last version to support older NVDA releases. A release scheduled for 2020 will drop support for NVDA versions prior to 2019.3. This also means saying goodbye to Windows XP support by then.
  • The “helpText” attribute is optional – you don’t have to define a custom help message, but it is encouraged. If you choose to define a custom help message, you should do it for a control that will get focused by users. If you want to make messages truly contextual i.e. based on what’s actually happening on the screen, try defining a getter method (_get_helpText) or a property (@property decorator), otherwise an attribute definition will work.
  • Certain states such as read-only are not handled yet. This will be resolved in 2020.

 

Also, the code repo for this add-on is now located at:

https://github.com/josephsl/controlusageassistant

 

As always, the new update is just an update check away via Add-on Updater.

 

Cheers,

Joseph

Re: NVDA+Outlook, and number of new messages

Arlene
 

HI list, while we are on the outlook topic. Can I install outlook 2010 on this latest build of win ten? Thnks

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Cordelia Scharpf
Sent: November 8, 2019 11:13 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA+Outlook, and number of new messages

 

Many thanks, Cearbhall, for that tip. The screen reader I have been using

for years displays such information right away when I open Outlook. I guess

I will have to do some learning when switching to NVDA as my primary screen

reader.

 

Best regards,

Cordelia

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of

Cearbhall O'Meadhra

Sent: Friday, November 08, 2019 7:19 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA+Outlook, and number of new messages

 

Cordelia,

 

Close all open emails and make sure that your cursor is resting on any

closed message in the current folder.

Press control+Shif+tab to opens the "Folder List". NVDA announces "Folder

List minimised".

Press space bar to expand the list.

Arrow down to the folder you want.

Note that NVDA speaks the number of messages contained in the folder after

giving the folder name.

 

 

You can also open the Folder List by using control+y but this view of the

list does not show the number of emails contained in each folder.

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cordelia

Scharpf

Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 5:25 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: [nvda] NVDA+Outlook, and number of new messages

 

Hi:

 

I am looking for a method in NVDA to determine the number of new messages

arriving in Outlook's in-box, spam folder, and junk mail. Does NVDA offer

such info without my having to arrow up and down each list in each folder?

Thanks.

 

Cordelia

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Re: How can I make a shortcut on the desktop?

Ibrahim Abedrabbo
 

Thanks Brian. Your directions worked like a charm.
Ibrahim


On Nov 9, 2019, at 1:25 PM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

Given that several browsers now use drag and drop to create desktop shortcuts, I tell people to use this method, which is more complicated than what one can use in browsers that have a "create shortcut" function, but that is entirely browser agnostic.

1. Get to the address box for the page for which you wish to create the shortcut, do a CTRL+A to make sure it's selected, then CTRL+C to Copy.

2. Go to the Windows desktop via WinKey+D, then hit SHIFT+F10 to bring up the context menu.

3. Find the New item, Shortcut subitem (very often hitting W followed by S immediately after the context menu appears will do this, and open the Shortcut dialog).

4. In the text box labeled, "Type the location of the item," paste the URL you copied in step one, then activate the Next button.

5. In the box labeled, "Type a name for this shortcut," enter whatever you wish to have it called on the Desktop.  Activate the OK button.

You now have a shortcut on your desktop that will use your default web browser to open that web page.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362  

The color of truth is grey.

           ~ André Gide

 

 

Re: python text editors

Jaffar Sidek
 

There is an eclipse branch of the Python editor called Leclipse.  It has no official support from NVDA but is as accessible as notepad in many ways because it is built off Eclipse, the official Java based IDE for Java and many more programming languages.  Cheers!

On 11/10/2019 1:49 AM, Jason White via Groups.Io wrote:

The only well supported option I am aware of is Notepad++, for which there is an NVDA add-on. However, I haven’t been searching recently. I tend to use Emacs with a braille display to edit text files.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of bhanu computer
Sent: Saturday, November 9, 2019 7:37 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] python text editors

 

hi all
i need some python text editors best in intelisence, syntax hylighting etc and also is there any NVDA setting to access the syntax hylighting?
thankyou

Re: NVDA+Outlook, and number of new messages

David Griffith
 

If you are talking about Jaws I have to use the same techniques as below using Jaws 2020 and Outlook subscription version to find out the number of unread emails. In other words it is the same as NVDA now unless there is a command in Jaws I am not aware of.

I was only an occasional user of Window Eyes so I do not know if this was a feature it had.

David Griffith

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Cordelia Scharpf
Sent: 09 November 2019 07:13
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA+Outlook, and number of new messages

 

Many thanks, Cearbhall, for that tip. The screen reader I have been using

for years displays such information right away when I open Outlook. I guess

I will have to do some learning when switching to NVDA as my primary screen

reader.

 

Best regards,

Cordelia

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of

Cearbhall O'Meadhra

Sent: Friday, November 08, 2019 7:19 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA+Outlook, and number of new messages

 

Cordelia,

 

Close all open emails and make sure that your cursor is resting on any

closed message in the current folder.

Press control+Shif+tab to opens the "Folder List". NVDA announces "Folder

List minimised".

Press space bar to expand the list.

Arrow down to the folder you want.

Note that NVDA speaks the number of messages contained in the folder after

giving the folder name.

 

 

You can also open the Folder List by using control+y but this view of the

list does not show the number of emails contained in each folder.

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cordelia

Scharpf

Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 5:25 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: [nvda] NVDA+Outlook, and number of new messages

 

Hi:

 

I am looking for a method in NVDA to determine the number of new messages

arriving in Outlook's in-box, spam folder, and junk mail. Does NVDA offer

such info without my having to arrow up and down each list in each folder?

Thanks.

 

Cordelia

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

how do i change email address on vocalizer for NVDA website, and something else

Afik Souffir <afik.souffir@...>
 

 

 

Hi

 

I want to know how do I change my email address on the vocalizer for NVDA website. In addition, I want to know what are the differences between vocalizer expressive 2.0 and 3.0?

 

Afik.

 

 

Re: Links on websites with submenus and/or links that NVDA can't interact with

Gene
 

I thought it was the wrong thread but it is the right one.  I don't look at subject lines much in part because so many of them are irrelevant.
 
There are two Opera messages in the thread.  I thought you had replied in an opera thread, since the opera messages are immediately below the message I replied to.
 

Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2019 1:04 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Links on websites with submenus and/or links that NVDA can't interact with

Replying in the wrong thread? I started this thread.


On 11/8/19, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
> You are replying in the wrong thread.  I don’t know why you are having the
> problem and you said you tried more than one browser.  Chrome updates
> automatically.
>
> Of course strange things happen, but I doubt this is an NVDA problem.  You
> could try another screen-reader just to see if you get different results.
>
> Gene
> -----  Original Message -----
> From: Joshua Tubbs
> Sent: Friday, November 08, 2019 12:59 PM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] Links on websites with submenus and/or links that NVDA
> can't interact with
>
> I don't understand how for you guys those links are working fine, as
> regular links, and when you press enter on them they work as expected.
> Does Chrome update automatically like Firefox does? I never know if
> i'm on the latest version.
> I just downloaded Opera though and I get the same result. Do I need to
> change something in NVDA?
>
> On 11/8/19, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...> wrote:
>> I'm trying opera but I can't change my home page. I might end up
>> uninstalling it.
>> \
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
>> Joshua
>> Tubbs
>> Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 10:46 AM
>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>> Subject: Re: [nvda] Links on websites with submenus and/or links that
>> NVDA
>> can't interact with
>>
>> I'm not sure. I'll try Opera.
>>
>> On 11/8/19, Robert Doc Wright godfearer <godfearer@...> wrote:
>>> I just tested it with Opera web browser and it works fine. Why are
>>> there so many “skip navigation links”?
>>>
>>> ******
>>> character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for
>>> you!
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Sile via Groups.Io
>>> Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 1:17 AM
>>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>>> Subject: Re: [nvda] Links on websites with submenus and/or links that
>>> NVDA can't interact with
>>>
>>> Hello, would anybody be willing to have a look at a webpage off-line for
>>> me.
>>> It’s having similar issues with drop-down boxes, but I don’t think
>>> it’s related to JavaScript.
>>>
>>> I’ve never seen this particular behavior before, so I just want to
>>> understand what’s going on.
>>>
>>> Sile
>>>> On Nov 7, 2019, at 9:10 PM, Joshua Tubbs <orin8722@...> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hmm. Were you using Chrome?
>>>>
>>>> I'll have to double check to see if JavaScript is on in Chrome.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On 11/6/19, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
>>>>> I just looked at the site with JAVA script on.  I followed one of
>>>>> the links and it opened another page as a standard link does.  I see
>>>>> that the site has a login place, and you didn't say if you did so.
>>>>> I didn't look enough to see if features are available if you log in
>>>>> that aren't otherwise, but the entire home page appears accessible
>>>>> to me.  In addition, between each of the navigation links is a link
>>>>> that says skip navigation links.  You really only need one but since
>>>>> someone put a skip link after every navigation link, that strongly
>>>>> implies to me that the site was designed to be accessible, even if
>>>>> this or that accomodation may be overdoing it.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm not sure what accounts for your problems or if, given more
>>>>> information, we can see them.  But just going to the site and
>>>>> looking around doesn't show me any.
>>>>>
>>>>> Gene
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>
>>>>>    Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>>    I just visited the following website:
>>>>>
>>>>>    http://canadianxpress.ca/
>>>>>
>>>>>    I notice that when going there, there is a number sign at the end
>>>>> of
>>>>>    the address. There are multiple websites I've found like this, and
>>>>>    each time I've encountered issues.
>>>>>    On this particular site I believe the main links open up drop downs
>>>>>    with additional links underneath the main one. Is there a way,
>>>>> whether
>>>>>    via addons or other, to make this and other sites like this usable,
>>>>>    short of contacting the webmaster who may or may not change the
>>>>> links
>>>>>    to make them clickable? Jaws simply announces the links as mouse
>>>>>    overs, but has the same result as NVDA. I've come across sites
>>>>> where
>>>>>    to hover over content, you can simply activate object navigation
>>>>> and
>>>>>    route the mouse cursor to the link in question and more information
>>>>>    will be present. Not with this one, however...
>>>>>
>>>>>    Any help would be appreciated. Tried switching browsers as well.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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>
>
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Re: Links on websites with submenus and/or links that NVDA can't interact with

Joshua Tubbs
 

Replying in the wrong thread? I started this thread.

On 11/8/19, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
You are replying in the wrong thread. I don’t know why you are having the
problem and you said you tried more than one browser. Chrome updates
automatically.

Of course strange things happen, but I doubt this is an NVDA problem. You
could try another screen-reader just to see if you get different results.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Joshua Tubbs
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2019 12:59 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Links on websites with submenus and/or links that NVDA
can't interact with

I don't understand how for you guys those links are working fine, as
regular links, and when you press enter on them they work as expected.
Does Chrome update automatically like Firefox does? I never know if
i'm on the latest version.
I just downloaded Opera though and I get the same result. Do I need to
change something in NVDA?

On 11/8/19, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...> wrote:
I'm trying opera but I can't change my home page. I might end up
uninstalling it.
\


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Joshua
Tubbs
Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 10:46 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Links on websites with submenus and/or links that
NVDA
can't interact with

I'm not sure. I'll try Opera.

On 11/8/19, Robert Doc Wright godfearer <godfearer@...> wrote:
I just tested it with Opera web browser and it works fine. Why are
there so many “skip navigation links”?

******
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From: Sile via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 1:17 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Links on websites with submenus and/or links that
NVDA can't interact with

Hello, would anybody be willing to have a look at a webpage off-line for
me.
It’s having similar issues with drop-down boxes, but I don’t think
it’s related to JavaScript.

I’ve never seen this particular behavior before, so I just want to
understand what’s going on.

Sile
On Nov 7, 2019, at 9:10 PM, Joshua Tubbs <orin8722@...> wrote:

Hmm. Were you using Chrome?

I'll have to double check to see if JavaScript is on in Chrome.



On 11/6/19, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
I just looked at the site with JAVA script on. I followed one of
the links and it opened another page as a standard link does. I see
that the site has a login place, and you didn't say if you did so.
I didn't look enough to see if features are available if you log in
that aren't otherwise, but the entire home page appears accessible
to me. In addition, between each of the navigation links is a link
that says skip navigation links. You really only need one but since
someone put a skip link after every navigation link, that strongly
implies to me that the site was designed to be accessible, even if
this or that accomodation may be overdoing it.

I'm not sure what accounts for your problems or if, given more
information, we can see them. But just going to the site and
looking around doesn't show me any.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

Hi all,

I just visited the following website:

http://canadianxpress.ca/

I notice that when going there, there is a number sign at the end
of
the address. There are multiple websites I've found like this, and
each time I've encountered issues.
On this particular site I believe the main links open up drop downs
with additional links underneath the main one. Is there a way,
whether
via addons or other, to make this and other sites like this usable,
short of contacting the webmaster who may or may not change the
links
to make them clickable? Jaws simply announces the links as mouse
overs, but has the same result as NVDA. I've come across sites
where
to hover over content, you can simply activate object navigation
and
route the mouse cursor to the link in question and more information
will be present. Not with this one, however...

Any help would be appreciated. Tried switching browsers as well.




























Re: NVDA and google chrome

Don H
 

I have clickable switch off as well.

On 11/9/2019 12:28 PM, Gene wrote:
I just tested using Chrome and the current version of NVDA.  I don't hear title.  But I do hear "clickable" before every heading in the web results is read. I'm talking about the web results, where all these headings are links to results.
Also, if I down arrow, then up arrow back to the link, "clickable" isn't spoken.  If I up arrow, then down arrow to the link, it is.
I'm using default settings.  I don't know how long this behavior has been occurring.  Usually, I have clickable not set to be spoken.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Don H <mailto:lmddh50@...>
*Sent:* Saturday, November 09, 2019 10:25 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* [nvda] NVDA and google chrome
Running Win 10 1903 and latest vversions of Google Chrome and NVDA.
My normal way of using Google Chrome is to enter my search data and hit
enter.  Then I use the h key to move by header to each of the results.
Noticing today that when I now do this NVDA says title before each
search result when I hit the h key.  Never noticed this before. Did I
somehow change this to cause NVDA to say title?

Re: NVDA and google chrome

Gene
 

I just tested using Chrome and the current version of NVDA.  I don't hear title.  But I do hear "clickable" before every heading in the web results is read.  I'm talking about the web results, where all these headings are links to results.
 
Also, if I down arrow, then up arrow back to the link, "clickable" isn't spoken.  If I up arrow, then down arrow to the link, it is. 
 
I'm using default settings.  I don't know how long this behavior has been occurring.  Usually, I have clickable not set to be spoken.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Don H
Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2019 10:25 AM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and google chrome

Running Win 10 1903 and latest vversions of Google Chrome and NVDA.
My normal way of using Google Chrome is to enter my search data and hit
enter.  Then I use the h key to move by header to each of the results.
Noticing today that when I now do this NVDA says title before each
search result when I hit the h key.  Never noticed this before.  Did I
somehow change this to cause NVDA to say title?