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Re: Kaspersky antivirus, how accessible?

 

Dan,

            I ask the following not to be snarky, but to gain some clarity:  What is the computer getting infected with? or What has the computer been infected with?

            A great many infections are malware or spyware, not viruses, and these can and do get past many straight antivirus programs.  They should not get past full security suites, except if very new and you're one of the very first people infected before the signatures have been added to the scanning databases for things other than viruses.

Brian

Kaspersky antivirus, how accessible?

Dan Beaver
 

Hi,

I am starting to be concerned that AVG is not handling lots of virus hits since my wife's laptop keeps getting infected.

How accessible is Kaspersky with NVDA? It seems to get very good reviews as far as an antivirus tool.

thanks.

Dan Beaver

Re: enhancing microsoft word:

Kenny Peyattt jr.
 

Open office is a open source office program that has a built-in word processor, spreadsheet program, and presentation program. All these programs can open microsoft office files created in microsoft office.
Kenny Peyatt jr.

On 4/3/2016 1:54 PM, Afrim wrote:
Open office? No. What is this?

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 3, 2016, at 7:37 PM, Kenny Peyattt jr. <p.wildcat1234@...> wrote:

Hi have you tried open office? It is a lot faster, and I opened a 200 page book with writer and it works really great.
Kenny Peyatt jr.


Re: Problem: No sounds when copying files etc.

Ksenia Natapova
 

Yes, I do. I also use the NVDA speech output. Only the progress bar does not work.

Von meinem iPhone gesendet

Am 04.04.2016 um 20:18 schrieb Chris Mullins <cjmullins29@...>:

Are you getting any sound from your computer? Are you just using NVDA for
Braille output or can you hear speech through your computer speaker?

Cheers
Chris
-----Original Message-----
From: Ksenia Natapova via Groups.io
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Sent: 04 April 2016 18:13
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problem: No sounds when copying files etc.

Hello,
I mean the beeps of the progress bar.
The operating system is Win10 and I have no sound device but the internal
speaker of my laptop.

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What do you mean by no sounds exactly.

What version of windows is it
also do you perhaps have more then one sound device plugged in, such as
the internal sound and some usb headphones?
Brian

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To: <nvda@groups.io>
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2016 1:55 PM
Subject: [nvda] Problem: No sounds when copying files etc.


Hello,
I have NVDA installed on my laptop. I don'g hear any sound when I copy and
paste a file or install a program...
I even tried to reset the NVDA settings but I still can't hear any tone.
Is there any way to turn on this option?
Best regards
Ksenia





Re: Problem: No sounds when copying files etc.

Chris Mullins
 

Are you getting any sound from your computer? Are you just using NVDA for
Braille output or can you hear speech through your computer speaker?

Cheers
Chris

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: 04 April 2016 18:13
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problem: No sounds when copying files etc.

Hello,
I mean the beeps of the progress bar.
The operating system is Win10 and I have no sound device but the internal
speaker of my laptop.

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Am 04.04.2016 um 18:40 schrieb Brian's Mail list account
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What do you mean by no sounds exactly.

What version of windows is it
also do you perhaps have more then one sound device plugged in, such as
the internal sound and some usb headphones?
Brian

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To: <nvda@groups.io>
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2016 1:55 PM
Subject: [nvda] Problem: No sounds when copying files etc.


Hello,
I have NVDA installed on my laptop. I don'g hear any sound when I copy and
paste a file or install a program...
I even tried to reset the NVDA settings but I still can't hear any tone.
Is there any way to turn on this option?
Best regards
Ksenia





Re: Problem: No sounds when copying files etc.

Ksenia Natapova
 

Hello,
I mean the beeps of the progress bar.
The operating system is Win10 and I have no sound device but the internal speaker of my laptop.

Von meinem iPhone gesendet

Am 04.04.2016 um 18:40 schrieb Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>:

What do you mean by no sounds exactly.

What version of windows is it
also do you perhaps have more then one sound device plugged in, such as the internal sound and some usb headphones?
Brian

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To: <nvda@groups.io>
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2016 1:55 PM
Subject: [nvda] Problem: No sounds when copying files etc.


Hello,
I have NVDA installed on my laptop. I don'g hear any sound when I copy and paste a file or install a program...
I even tried to reset the NVDA settings but I still can't hear any tone. Is there any way to turn on this option?
Best regards
Ksenia





Re: suggestion: giving google chrome a try Performance degradation in current Firefox

Gene
 

Then that 2would open an avenue of abuse for spammers, developing some way to fool sites into thinking a screen-reader is being used.  Just exactly what we don't need, having blind people become known for compromising site security and having screen-readers become associated by site administrators as the enemy.  The point is not to give easy access like this for blind users.  A lot of sighted people who don't use screen-readers have a lot of problems solving captchas.  If proof of a person is needed, some other system than solving a visual image should be developed. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2016 11:38 AM
Subject: Re: suggestion: giving google chrome a try [nvda] Performance degradation in current Firefox

Of course nody should have to solve them if the site was made properly
accessible after all they seem to be able to find all we do on line, finding
out if a screenreader is in use should be pretty easy..
 I'm a purist and feel cap chars are a lazy way to detect human ness anyway.
 Brian

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----- Original Message -----
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To: <nvda@groups.io>
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2016 1:59 PM
Subject: Re: suggestion: giving google chrome a try [nvda] Performance
degradation in current Firefox


How much does Rumola charge to solve one captcha?  Is it less than a penny?
And people are complaining about the company because it doesn't provide
customer service?  You get what you pay for.

Someone has just started a much much more expensive captcha solving service
for blind people.  We'll see how many people are willing to pay these much
higher prices.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Kwork
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2016 7:46 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: suggestion: giving google chrome a try [nvda] Performance
degradation in current Firefox


Diddo! And for their lack of customer service, I also hope the Rumola
service starves to death. Completely with you on this one.
Travis
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mallard" <mallard@...>
To: <nvda@groups.io>
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2016 3:57 AM
Subject: Re: suggestion: giving google chrome a try [nvda] Performance
degradation in current Firefox


No, Rumola never!
I tried it, and they "ate up" my free captchas without me even start the
programme... As soon as I tried to solve a captcha in the trial, I was
told that I had already used them all up.
Which made me understand that they are not serious, so I abandoned the
project immediately.
As fara sI'm concerned, they can starve to the end of eternity!
Ciao,
Ollie




Il 02/04/2016 22:24, David Moore ha scritto:
> Hi,
> You have to use Ramola captscha add on. You pay 95 cents to solve 150
> captschas and so on. Have a great one.
>
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Mallard
> Sent: Saturday, April 2, 2016 8:02 AM
> To: nvda@groups.io
> Subject: Re: suggestion: giving google chrome a try [nvda] Performance
> degradation in current Firefox
>
> Hello,
>
> But what happens with Captcha solving in Chrome?
>
> Ciao,
> Ollie
>
>
>
>
> Il 02/04/2016 09:52, Nimer Jaber ha scritto:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I am very happy to say that my issues at least have been addressed,
>> and that browsing with Chrome and NVDA is the best it has ever been.
>>
>> On 02-Apr-16 02:40, Kevin Chao wrote:
>>> Please retry with latest build of Chrome Canary... Accessibility
>>> improvements went in!
>>> On Sun, Mar 27, 2016 at 4:08 PM Nimer Jaber <nimerjaber1@...>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>     Hello,
>>>
>>>     Please find my answers below. I am hoping that some of these
>>>     issues are just the way that my specific configuration is set up.
>>>
>>>
>>>     On 27-Mar-16 17:55, Chris Mullins wrote:
>>>>
>>>>     Hi Nimer
>>>>
>>>>     Just a few questions:
>>>>
>>>>     Can I establish if you  are using Chrome or Canary?
>>>>
>>>     Canary
>>>>
>>>>     What is ChromeVox?
>>>>
>>>     Chromevox is Google's screen reading option that a user can
>>>     enable while using Chrome or Chrome OS.
>>>
>>>>     What is the status of the ‘automatically run say all on page
>>>>     load’ in  the NVDA Browse mode dialog?
>>>>
>>>     Unchecked.
>>>
>>>>     What is the status of the ‘automatic focus mode for focus
>>>>     changes’ in  the NVDA Browse mode dialog?
>>>>
>>>     Checked
>>>
>>>>     What is the status of the ‘automatic focus mode for caret
>>>>     movement’ in  the NVDA Browse mode dialog?
>>>>
>>>     Unchecked
>>>
>>>
>>>>     I have   Chrome and Canary and don’t get the same as you re
>>>>     pressing tab to see the content in either version of the browser
>>>>
>>>>     The quick navigation keys operate when you are in browse mode
>>>>     and I’ve not had trouble with them in standard web pages with
>>>>     eiter browser but there is a problem with them in the settings
>>>>     page of Chrome but they seem to work OK in the Canary settings
>>>> page.
>>>>
>>>>     The chrome menu reads perfectly in chrome but there are a couple
>>>>     of gaps in the Canary version after Zoom and Edit entries.
>>>>
>>>>     Cheers
>>>>
>>>>     Chris
>>>>
>>>>     *From:*Nimer Jaber [mailto:nimerjaber1@...]
>>>>     *Sent:* 27 March 2016 22:37
>>>>     *To:* nvda@groups.io <mailto:nvda@groups.io>
>>>>     *Subject:* Re: suggestion: giving google chrome a try [nvda]
>>>>     Performance degradation in current Firefox
>>>>
>>>>     Unfortunately, Chrome accessibility has a bit of a ways to go. I
>>>>     wish it didn't. I wish I could reliably use Chrome without the
>>>>     strangeness that persists, but I can't. With Canary, some menu
>>>>     items are not read out by NVDA, but are by Chromevox. Others are
>>>>     read out by NVDA and not by Chromevox. I don't want two screen
>>>>     reading packages running. When navigating the web and going to a
>>>>     new web page, I seem to have to push tab after a new page loads,
>>>>     otherwise NVDA doesn't seem to see the content on the page. When
>>>>     doing a search on the Google page and when navigating around
>>>>     Chrome in general, pressing H to navigate by heading only works
>>>>     sometimes, but sometimes locks up until I again press tab to
>>>>     force it to get back to the content. The sign-in process in
>>>>     Chrome does not work with NVDA. I needed to use Window-eyes to
>>>>     get it to read the content. JAWS was also unable to read it. And
>>>>     I will post another thread about this, but Hangouts doesn't work
>>>>     very well. the Hangouts app seems to be totally inaccessible to
>>>>     next branches of NVDA and Canary. And the keyboard shortcuts
>>>>     that Google outlines in their manual at
>>>>     https://support.google.com/hangouts/answer/3112005?rd=1 don't
>>>>     work when navigating to hangouts.google.com
>>>>     <http://hangouts.google.com>, and the article doesn't specify
>>>>     where exactly these shortcuts are supposed to work. Actually
>>>>     many hotkeys that Google outlines interfere with
>>>>     browser-specific hotkeys. So I would be happy to transition to
>>>>     using Chrome, as Firefox is becoming awful, but that would mean
>>>>     a huge loss of productivity for me. So if you have been able to
>>>>     get Chrome to work more reliably, I am interested in which
>>>>     version of Chrome and which version of NVDA, as well as any
>>>>     settings changes that you have made for your specific set-up. If
>>>>     this is localized to just me, I am willing to do some
>>>>     troubleshooting, but on three computers Chrome's behavior seems
>>>>     to be the same. About the only improvement I have seen to Chrome
>>>>     Canary is that NVDA reads out a few additional menu items that
>>>>     it wasn't reading before. I might try resetting Chrome back to
>>>>     default settings and removing all plugins to see if that has any
>>>>     effect, but this installation of Chrome is pretty new, so I'm
>>>>     not sure if that will help or not.
>>>>
>>>>     Thanks.
>>>>
>>>>     On 3/27/2016 4:05 PM, Scott VanDeWalle wrote:
>>>>
>>>>         Hey.
>>>>         I've been using chrome now for a couple of weeks now i
>>>> believe.
>>>>         It is pretty good for the most part.
>>>>         hth
>>>>
>>>>         Scott
>>>>
>>>>         On 3/27/2016 9:20 AM, Peter Beasley wrote:
>>>>
>>>>             My problem with Firefox is that I am no longer able to
>>>>             use the BBC iplayer. Every time I try to listen to
>>>>             something, I get a message telling me that the Adobe
>>>>             flash plugin has crashed. This particular plugin is up
>>>>             to date and I have been having this problem since early
>>>>             December. I know this is not anNVDA issue but would be
>>>>             greatful if anyone has any ideas on how I can sort this
>>>>             out. I have been using Firefox as my primary browser now
>>>>             for nearly 9 and a half years.
>>>>
>>>>             *From:*mk360 <mailto:mk.seventhson@...>
>>>>
>>>>             *Sent:*Sunday, March 27, 2016 1:31 PM
>>>>
>>>>             *To:*nvda@groups.io <mailto:nvda@groups.io>
>>>>
>>>>             *Subject:*Re: [nvda] Performance degradation in current
>>>>             Firefox
>>>>
>>>>             I've in firefox 45.0.1 and all is working fine.
>>>>
>>>>             El 27-03-2016 a las 8:46, Mr. Wong Chi Wai, William
>>>>             escribió:
>>>>
>>>>                 I see no problem with NVDA. I recommend you go onto
>>>>                 google and search for about:config that can help
>>>>                 improve firefox performace and that pretty helps.
>>>>
>>>>                 Kevin Chao 於27/3/201610:13 寫 道:
>>>>
>>>>                     One of Chrome's strengths is performance...I
>>>>                     experience 0% lag with MVDA when interacting
>>>>                     with modern web apps.
>>>>
>>>>                     On Sat, Mar 26, 2016 at 5:11 PM Supanut
>>>>                     Leepaisomboon <supanut2000@...> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>                         I noticed performance issues with Firefox as
>>>>                         well, but not just with NVDA, but Jaws as
>>>>                         well, especially on Facebook where the
>>>>                         browser lags. Firefox seemed to perform
>>>>                         poorly on my Surface 3, despite not having
>>>>                         any addons installed.
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>









Re: suggestion: giving google chrome a try Performance degradation in current Firefox

Kwork
 

Ollie, there are two Genes on the list. The one you're talking to is not the
Gene from NZ. Just thought I'd clarify that. smile.
Travis

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mallard" <mallard@...>
To: <nvda@groups.io>
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2016 6:36 AM
Subject: Re: suggestion: giving google chrome a try [nvda] Performance
degradation in current Firefox


Gene,

Sorry dear, but I'm not ready to pay for something I should be entitled
to have for free, like anyone else.

I'm ready to pay thousnds of dollars for a good braille display, or even
for a good substitute of the Optacon, because those are devices that are
specific for us.
But I'm not ready to pay for something that sighted people have for
free, just because my eyes don't function as they should.

Ok, you are in New Zealand and I'm in Italy... We're at the antipode
georaphically, and it's quite normal that we should have opposite world
views... lol
Ciao,
Ollie - who will never pay for Rumola service




Il 04/04/2016 14:59, Gene ha scritto:
How much does Rumola charge to solve one captcha? Is it less than a
penny? And people are complaining about the company because it
doesn't provide customer service? You get what you pay for.
Someone has just started a much much more expensive captcha solving
service for blind people. We'll see how many people are willing to
pay these much higher prices.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Kwork <mailto:istherelife@...>
*Sent:* Monday, April 04, 2016 7:46 AM
*To:* nvda@groups.io <mailto:nvda@groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: suggestion: giving google chrome a try [nvda]
Performance degradation in current Firefox

Diddo! And for their lack of customer service, I also hope the Rumola
service starves to death. Completely with you on this one.
Travis
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mallard" <mallard@... <mailto:mallard@...>>
To: <nvda@groups.io <mailto:nvda@groups.io>>
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2016 3:57 AM
Subject: Re: suggestion: giving google chrome a try [nvda] Performance
degradation in current Firefox


No, Rumola never!
I tried it, and they "ate up" my free captchas without me even start the
programme... As soon as I tried to solve a captcha in the trial, I was
told that I had already used them all up.
Which made me understand that they are not serious, so I abandoned the
project immediately.
As fara sI'm concerned, they can starve to the end of eternity!
Ciao,
Ollie




Il 02/04/2016 22:24, David Moore ha scritto:
Hi,
You have to use Ramola captscha add on. You pay 95 cents to solve 150
captschas and so on. Have a great one.


-----Original Message----- From: Mallard
Sent: Saturday, April 2, 2016 8:02 AM
To: nvda@groups.io <mailto:nvda@groups.io>
Subject: Re: suggestion: giving google chrome a try [nvda] Performance
degradation in current Firefox

Hello,

But what happens with Captcha solving in Chrome?

Ciao,
Ollie




Il 02/04/2016 09:52, Nimer Jaber ha scritto:
Hello,

I am very happy to say that my issues at least have been addressed,
and that browsing with Chrome and NVDA is the best it has ever been.

On 02-Apr-16 02:40, Kevin Chao wrote:
Please retry with latest build of Chrome Canary... Accessibility
improvements went in!
On Sun, Mar 27, 2016 at 4:08 PM Nimer Jaber <nimerjaber1@...
<mailto:nimerjaber1@...>>
wrote:

Hello,

Please find my answers below. I am hoping that some of these
issues are just the way that my specific configuration is set up.


On 27-Mar-16 17:55, Chris Mullins wrote:

Hi Nimer

Just a few questions:

Can I establish if you are using Chrome or Canary?
Canary

What is ChromeVox?
Chromevox is Google's screen reading option that a user can
enable while using Chrome or Chrome OS.

What is the status of the ‘automatically run say all on page
load’ in the NVDA Browse mode dialog?
Unchecked.

What is the status of the ‘automatic focus mode for focus
changes’ in the NVDA Browse mode dialog?
Checked

What is the status of the ‘automatic focus mode for caret
movement’ in the NVDA Browse mode dialog?
Unchecked


I have Chrome and Canary and don’t get the same as you re
pressing tab to see the content in either version of the browser

The quick navigation keys operate when you are in browse mode
and I’ve not had trouble with them in standard web pages with
eiter browser but there is a problem with them in the settings
page of Chrome but they seem to work OK in the Canary settings
page.

The chrome menu reads perfectly in chrome but there are a couple
of gaps in the Canary version after Zoom and Edit entries.

Cheers

Chris

*From:*Nimer Jaber [mailto:nimerjaber1@...]
*Sent:* 27 March 2016 22:37
*To:* nvda@groups.io <mailto:nvda@groups.io>
<mailto:nvda@groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: suggestion: giving google chrome a try [nvda]
Performance degradation in current Firefox

Unfortunately, Chrome accessibility has a bit of a ways to go. I
wish it didn't. I wish I could reliably use Chrome without the
strangeness that persists, but I can't. With Canary, some menu
items are not read out by NVDA, but are by Chromevox. Others are
read out by NVDA and not by Chromevox. I don't want two screen
reading packages running. When navigating the web and going to a
new web page, I seem to have to push tab after a new page loads,
otherwise NVDA doesn't seem to see the content on the page. When
doing a search on the Google page and when navigating around
Chrome in general, pressing H to navigate by heading only works
sometimes, but sometimes locks up until I again press tab to
force it to get back to the content. The sign-in process in
Chrome does not work with NVDA. I needed to use Window-eyes to
get it to read the content. JAWS was also unable to read it. And
I will post another thread about this, but Hangouts doesn't work
very well. the Hangouts app seems to be totally inaccessible to
next branches of NVDA and Canary. And the keyboard shortcuts
that Google outlines in their manual at
https://support.google.com/hangouts/answer/3112005?rd=1 don't
work when navigating to hangouts.google.com
<http://hangouts.google.com>, and the article doesn't specify
where exactly these shortcuts are supposed to work. Actually
many hotkeys that Google outlines interfere with
browser-specific hotkeys. So I would be happy to transition to
using Chrome, as Firefox is becoming awful, but that would mean
a huge loss of productivity for me. So if you have been able to
get Chrome to work more reliably, I am interested in which
version of Chrome and which version of NVDA, as well as any
settings changes that you have made for your specific set-up. If
this is localized to just me, I am willing to do some
troubleshooting, but on three computers Chrome's behavior seems
to be the same. About the only improvement I have seen to Chrome
Canary is that NVDA reads out a few additional menu items that
it wasn't reading before. I might try resetting Chrome back to
default settings and removing all plugins to see if that has any
effect, but this installation of Chrome is pretty new, so I'm
not sure if that will help or not.

Thanks.

On 3/27/2016 4:05 PM, Scott VanDeWalle wrote:

Hey.
I've been using chrome now for a couple of weeks now i
believe.
It is pretty good for the most part.
hth

Scott

On 3/27/2016 9:20 AM, Peter Beasley wrote:

My problem with Firefox is that I am no longer able to
use the BBC iplayer. Every time I try to listen to
something, I get a message telling me that the Adobe
flash plugin has crashed. This particular plugin is up
to date and I have been having this problem since early
December. I know this is not anNVDA issue but would be
greatful if anyone has any ideas on how I can sort this
out. I have been using Firefox as my primary browser now
for nearly 9 and a half years.

*From:*mk360 <mailto:mk.seventhson@...>

*Sent:*Sunday, March 27, 2016 1:31 PM

*To:*nvda@groups.io <mailto:nvda@groups.io>

*Subject:*Re: [nvda] Performance degradation in current
Firefox

I've in firefox 45.0.1 and all is working fine.

El 27-03-2016 a las 8:46, Mr. Wong Chi Wai, William
escribió:

I see no problem with NVDA. I recommend you go onto
google and search for about:config that can help
improve firefox performace and that pretty helps.

Kevin Chao 於27/3/201610:13 寫 道:

One of Chrome's strengths is performance...I
experience 0% lag with MVDA when interacting
with modern web apps.

On Sat, Mar 26, 2016 at 5:11 PM Supanut
Leepaisomboon <@supanut2000
<mailto:@supanut2000>> wrote:

I noticed performance issues with Firefox as
well, but not just with NVDA, but Jaws as
well, especially on Facebook where the
browser lags. Firefox seemed to perform
poorly on my Surface 3, despite not having
any addons installed.











Re: Problem: No sounds when copying files etc.

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When does it stop speaking. IE if you open a dialogue like when you want to save or load a file in an application, does this part speak?

What I'm wondering here is what else might be going on. The other day I had a laptop here whereonly a few seconds of anything spoken was heard due to some oddity with the sound driver. It only showed up in nvda.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Ksenia Natapova via Groups.io" <ksenia.natapova=yahoo.de@groups.io>
To: <nvda@groups.io>
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2016 4:26 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problem: No sounds when copying files etc.


Hello,
@Afrim, sorry, but it doesn't work.
@Chriss: NVDA is set to "Beep and speech".

Von meinem iPhone gesendet

Am 04.04.2016 um 17:08 schrieb Chris Mullins <cjmullins29@...>:

Open Object Presentation dialog using NVDA+Control+o and ensure "Report
progress bar Output" is set to beep,speak or beep and speak.

Cheers
Chris
-----Original Message-----
From: Ksenia Natapova via Groups.io
[mailto:ksenia.natapova=yahoo.de@groups.io]
Sent: 04 April 2016 13:55
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Problem: No sounds when copying files etc.

Hello,
I have NVDA installed on my laptop. I don'g hear any sound when I copy and
paste a file or install a program...
I even tried to reset the NVDA settings but I still can't hear any tone. Is
there any way to turn on this option?
Best regards
Ksenia





Re: Problem: No sounds when copying files etc.

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What do you mean by no sounds exactly.

What version of windows is it
also do you perhaps have more then one sound device plugged in, such as the internal sound and some usb headphones?
Brian

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To: <nvda@groups.io>
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2016 1:55 PM
Subject: [nvda] Problem: No sounds when copying files etc.


Hello,
I have NVDA installed on my laptop. I don'g hear any sound when I copy and paste a file or install a program...
I even tried to reset the NVDA settings but I still can't hear any tone. Is there any way to turn on this option?
Best regards
Ksenia

Re: suggestion: giving google chrome a try Performance degradation in current Firefox

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Of course nody should have to solve them if the site was made properly accessible after all they seem to be able to find all we do on line, finding out if a screenreader is in use should be pretty easy..
I'm a purist and feel cap chars are a lazy way to detect human ness anyway.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <nvda@groups.io>
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2016 1:59 PM
Subject: Re: suggestion: giving google chrome a try [nvda] Performance degradation in current Firefox


How much does Rumola charge to solve one captcha? Is it less than a penny? And people are complaining about the company because it doesn't provide customer service? You get what you pay for.

Someone has just started a much much more expensive captcha solving service for blind people. We'll see how many people are willing to pay these much higher prices.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Kwork
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2016 7:46 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: suggestion: giving google chrome a try [nvda] Performance degradation in current Firefox


Diddo! And for their lack of customer service, I also hope the Rumola
service starves to death. Completely with you on this one.
Travis
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mallard" <mallard@...>
To: <nvda@groups.io>
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2016 3:57 AM
Subject: Re: suggestion: giving google chrome a try [nvda] Performance
degradation in current Firefox


No, Rumola never!
I tried it, and they "ate up" my free captchas without me even start the
programme... As soon as I tried to solve a captcha in the trial, I was
told that I had already used them all up.
Which made me understand that they are not serious, so I abandoned the
project immediately.
As fara sI'm concerned, they can starve to the end of eternity!
Ciao,
Ollie




Il 02/04/2016 22:24, David Moore ha scritto:
Hi,
You have to use Ramola captscha add on. You pay 95 cents to solve 150
captschas and so on. Have a great one.


-----Original Message----- From: Mallard
Sent: Saturday, April 2, 2016 8:02 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: suggestion: giving google chrome a try [nvda] Performance
degradation in current Firefox

Hello,

But what happens with Captcha solving in Chrome?

Ciao,
Ollie




Il 02/04/2016 09:52, Nimer Jaber ha scritto:
Hello,

I am very happy to say that my issues at least have been addressed,
and that browsing with Chrome and NVDA is the best it has ever been.

On 02-Apr-16 02:40, Kevin Chao wrote:
Please retry with latest build of Chrome Canary... Accessibility
improvements went in!
On Sun, Mar 27, 2016 at 4:08 PM Nimer Jaber <nimerjaber1@...>
wrote:

Hello,

Please find my answers below. I am hoping that some of these
issues are just the way that my specific configuration is set up.


On 27-Mar-16 17:55, Chris Mullins wrote:

Hi Nimer

Just a few questions:

Can I establish if you are using Chrome or Canary?
Canary

What is ChromeVox?
Chromevox is Google's screen reading option that a user can
enable while using Chrome or Chrome OS.

What is the status of the ‘automatically run say all on page
load’ in the NVDA Browse mode dialog?
Unchecked.

What is the status of the ‘automatic focus mode for focus
changes’ in the NVDA Browse mode dialog?
Checked

What is the status of the ‘automatic focus mode for caret
movement’ in the NVDA Browse mode dialog?
Unchecked


I have Chrome and Canary and don’t get the same as you re
pressing tab to see the content in either version of the browser

The quick navigation keys operate when you are in browse mode
and I’ve not had trouble with them in standard web pages with
eiter browser but there is a problem with them in the settings
page of Chrome but they seem to work OK in the Canary settings
page.

The chrome menu reads perfectly in chrome but there are a couple
of gaps in the Canary version after Zoom and Edit entries.

Cheers

Chris

*From:*Nimer Jaber [mailto:nimerjaber1@...]
*Sent:* 27 March 2016 22:37
*To:* nvda@groups.io <mailto:nvda@groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: suggestion: giving google chrome a try [nvda]
Performance degradation in current Firefox

Unfortunately, Chrome accessibility has a bit of a ways to go. I
wish it didn't. I wish I could reliably use Chrome without the
strangeness that persists, but I can't. With Canary, some menu
items are not read out by NVDA, but are by Chromevox. Others are
read out by NVDA and not by Chromevox. I don't want two screen
reading packages running. When navigating the web and going to a
new web page, I seem to have to push tab after a new page loads,
otherwise NVDA doesn't seem to see the content on the page. When
doing a search on the Google page and when navigating around
Chrome in general, pressing H to navigate by heading only works
sometimes, but sometimes locks up until I again press tab to
force it to get back to the content. The sign-in process in
Chrome does not work with NVDA. I needed to use Window-eyes to
get it to read the content. JAWS was also unable to read it. And
I will post another thread about this, but Hangouts doesn't work
very well. the Hangouts app seems to be totally inaccessible to
next branches of NVDA and Canary. And the keyboard shortcuts
that Google outlines in their manual at
https://support.google.com/hangouts/answer/3112005?rd=1 don't
work when navigating to hangouts.google.com
<http://hangouts.google.com>, and the article doesn't specify
where exactly these shortcuts are supposed to work. Actually
many hotkeys that Google outlines interfere with
browser-specific hotkeys. So I would be happy to transition to
using Chrome, as Firefox is becoming awful, but that would mean
a huge loss of productivity for me. So if you have been able to
get Chrome to work more reliably, I am interested in which
version of Chrome and which version of NVDA, as well as any
settings changes that you have made for your specific set-up. If
this is localized to just me, I am willing to do some
troubleshooting, but on three computers Chrome's behavior seems
to be the same. About the only improvement I have seen to Chrome
Canary is that NVDA reads out a few additional menu items that
it wasn't reading before. I might try resetting Chrome back to
default settings and removing all plugins to see if that has any
effect, but this installation of Chrome is pretty new, so I'm
not sure if that will help or not.

Thanks.

On 3/27/2016 4:05 PM, Scott VanDeWalle wrote:

Hey.
I've been using chrome now for a couple of weeks now i
believe.
It is pretty good for the most part.
hth

Scott

On 3/27/2016 9:20 AM, Peter Beasley wrote:

My problem with Firefox is that I am no longer able to
use the BBC iplayer. Every time I try to listen to
something, I get a message telling me that the Adobe
flash plugin has crashed. This particular plugin is up
to date and I have been having this problem since early
December. I know this is not anNVDA issue but would be
greatful if anyone has any ideas on how I can sort this
out. I have been using Firefox as my primary browser now
for nearly 9 and a half years.

*From:*mk360 <mailto:mk.seventhson@...>

*Sent:*Sunday, March 27, 2016 1:31 PM

*To:*nvda@groups.io <mailto:nvda@groups.io>

*Subject:*Re: [nvda] Performance degradation in current
Firefox

I've in firefox 45.0.1 and all is working fine.

El 27-03-2016 a las 8:46, Mr. Wong Chi Wai, William
escribió:

I see no problem with NVDA. I recommend you go onto
google and search for about:config that can help
improve firefox performace and that pretty helps.

Kevin Chao 於27/3/201610:13 寫 道:

One of Chrome's strengths is performance...I
experience 0% lag with MVDA when interacting
with modern web apps.

On Sat, Mar 26, 2016 at 5:11 PM Supanut
Leepaisomboon <@supanut2000> wrote:

I noticed performance issues with Firefox as
well, but not just with NVDA, but Jaws as
well, especially on Facebook where the
browser lags. Firefox seemed to perform
poorly on my Surface 3, despite not having
any addons installed.






Re: suggestion: giving google chrome a try Performance degradation in current Firefox

Gene
 

If you want to be a prisoner of a rigid and arbitrary ideology, that's up to you.  Sighted people don't need Braille, so the comparison is meaningless.  To be logical, you need Braille because you can't read print because your eyes don't work as they should, if they work at all.  That is as much an expense incurred by blindness as Rumolla is.  Also, to be consistent, you should never, ever, buy any app that does anything in a way tailored to a blind person's needs such as an app that provides travel information and directions in ways sighted people wouldn't use.  Perhaps you do this and perhaps you don't.  But as I said, your view is arbitrary and inconsistent.And many sighted people with vision that isn't as good as it should be have considerable difficulty filling out captchas or can't do it so many people other than blindpeople may use and pay for, this service.  It's up to you if you want to refuse to pay a few U.S. dollars for something that would benefit you.  In some magic dream kingdom, you might find the policies you advocate implemented.  Not in the real world. 
 
Also, I am in The united States.  There is a different Gene who signs his messages Gene from New Zealand. 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Mallard
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2016 8:36 AM
Subject: Re: suggestion: giving google chrome a try [nvda] Performance degradation in current Firefox

Gene,

Sorry dear, but I'm not ready to pay for something I should be entitled
to have for free, like anyone else.

I'm ready to pay thousnds of dollars for a good braille display, or even
for a good substitute of the Optacon, because those are devices that are
specific for us.
But I'm not ready to pay for something that sighted people have for
free, just because my eyes don't function as they should.

Ok, you are in New Zealand and I'm in Italy... We're at the antipode
georaphically, and it's quite normal that we should have opposite world
views... lol
Ciao,
Ollie - who will never pay for Rumola service




Il 04/04/2016 14:59, Gene ha scritto:
> How much does Rumola charge to solve one captcha?  Is it less than a
> penny?  And people are complaining about the company because it
> doesn't provide customer service?  You get what you pay for.
> Someone has just started a much much more expensive captcha solving
> service for blind people.  We'll see how many people are willing to
> pay these much higher prices.
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Kwork <mailto:istherelife@...>
> *Sent:* Monday, April 04, 2016 7:46 AM
> *To:* nvda@groups.io <mailto:nvda@groups.io>
> *Subject:* Re: suggestion: giving google chrome a try [nvda]
> Performance degradation in current Firefox
>
> Diddo! And for their lack of customer service, I also hope the Rumola
> service starves to death. Completely with you on this one.
> Travis
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mallard" <mallard@... <mailto:mallard@...>>
> To: <nvda@groups.io <mailto:nvda@groups.io>>
> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2016 3:57 AM
> Subject: Re: suggestion: giving google chrome a try [nvda] Performance
> degradation in current Firefox
>
>
> No, Rumola never!
> I tried it, and they "ate up" my free captchas without me even start the
> programme... As soon as I tried to solve a captcha in the trial, I was
> told that I had already used them all up.
> Which made me understand that they are not serious, so I abandoned the
> project immediately.
> As fara sI'm concerned, they can starve to the end of eternity!
> Ciao,
> Ollie
>
>
>
>
> Il 02/04/2016 22:24, David Moore ha scritto:
> > Hi,
> > You have to use Ramola captscha add on. You pay 95 cents to solve 150
> > captschas and so on. Have a great one.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message----- From: Mallard
> > Sent: Saturday, April 2, 2016 8:02 AM
> > To: nvda@groups.io <mailto:nvda@groups.io>
> > Subject: Re: suggestion: giving google chrome a try [nvda] Performance
> > degradation in current Firefox
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > But what happens with Captcha solving in Chrome?
> >
> > Ciao,
> > Ollie
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Il 02/04/2016 09:52, Nimer Jaber ha scritto:
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> I am very happy to say that my issues at least have been addressed,
> >> and that browsing with Chrome and NVDA is the best it has ever been.
> >>
> >> On 02-Apr-16 02:40, Kevin Chao wrote:
> >>> Please retry with latest build of Chrome Canary... Accessibility
> >>> improvements went in!
> >>> On Sun, Mar 27, 2016 at 4:08 PM Nimer Jaber <nimerjaber1@...
> <mailto:nimerjaber1@...>>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>     Hello,
> >>>
> >>>     Please find my answers below. I am hoping that some of these
> >>>     issues are just the way that my specific configuration is set up.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>     On 27-Mar-16 17:55, Chris Mullins wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>     Hi Nimer
> >>>>
> >>>>     Just a few questions:
> >>>>
> >>>>     Can I establish if you  are using Chrome or Canary?
> >>>>
> >>>     Canary
> >>>>
> >>>>     What is ChromeVox?
> >>>>
> >>>     Chromevox is Google's screen reading option that a user can
> >>>     enable while using Chrome or Chrome OS.
> >>>
> >>>>     What is the status of the ‘automatically run say all on page
> >>>>     load’ in  the NVDA Browse mode dialog?
> >>>>
> >>>     Unchecked.
> >>>
> >>>>     What is the status of the ‘automatic focus mode for focus
> >>>>     changes’ in  the NVDA Browse mode dialog?
> >>>>
> >>>     Checked
> >>>
> >>>>     What is the status of the ‘automatic focus mode for caret
> >>>>     movement’ in  the NVDA Browse mode dialog?
> >>>>
> >>>     Unchecked
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>     I have   Chrome and Canary and don’t get the same as you re
> >>>>     pressing tab to see the content in either version of the browser
> >>>>
> >>>>     The quick navigation keys operate when you are in browse mode
> >>>>     and I’ve not had trouble with them in standard web pages with
> >>>>     eiter browser but there is a problem with them in the settings
> >>>>     page of Chrome but they seem to work OK in the Canary settings
> >>>> page.
> >>>>
> >>>>     The chrome menu reads perfectly in chrome but there are a couple
> >>>>     of gaps in the Canary version after Zoom and Edit entries.
> >>>>
> >>>>     Cheers
> >>>>
> >>>>     Chris
> >>>>
> >>>>     *From:*Nimer Jaber [mailto:nimerjaber1@...]
> >>>>     *Sent:* 27 March 2016 22:37
> >>>>     *To:* nvda@groups.io <mailto:nvda@groups.io>
> <mailto:nvda@groups.io>
> >>>>     *Subject:* Re: suggestion: giving google chrome a try [nvda]
> >>>>     Performance degradation in current Firefox
> >>>>
> >>>>     Unfortunately, Chrome accessibility has a bit of a ways to go. I
> >>>>     wish it didn't. I wish I could reliably use Chrome without the
> >>>>     strangeness that persists, but I can't. With Canary, some menu
> >>>>     items are not read out by NVDA, but are by Chromevox. Others are
> >>>>     read out by NVDA and not by Chromevox. I don't want two screen
> >>>>     reading packages running. When navigating the web and going to a
> >>>>     new web page, I seem to have to push tab after a new page loads,
> >>>>     otherwise NVDA doesn't seem to see the content on the page. When
> >>>>     doing a search on the Google page and when navigating around
> >>>>     Chrome in general, pressing H to navigate by heading only works
> >>>>     sometimes, but sometimes locks up until I again press tab to
> >>>>     force it to get back to the content. The sign-in process in
> >>>>     Chrome does not work with NVDA. I needed to use Window-eyes to
> >>>>     get it to read the content. JAWS was also unable to read it. And
> >>>>     I will post another thread about this, but Hangouts doesn't work
> >>>>     very well. the Hangouts app seems to be totally inaccessible to
> >>>>     next branches of NVDA and Canary. And the keyboard shortcuts
> >>>>     that Google outlines in their manual at
> >>>> https://support.google.com/hangouts/answer/3112005?rd=1 don't
> >>>>     work when navigating to hangouts.google.com
> >>>>     <http://hangouts.google.com>, and the article doesn't specify
> >>>>     where exactly these shortcuts are supposed to work. Actually
> >>>>     many hotkeys that Google outlines interfere with
> >>>>     browser-specific hotkeys. So I would be happy to transition to
> >>>>     using Chrome, as Firefox is becoming awful, but that would mean
> >>>>     a huge loss of productivity for me. So if you have been able to
> >>>>     get Chrome to work more reliably, I am interested in which
> >>>>     version of Chrome and which version of NVDA, as well as any
> >>>>     settings changes that you have made for your specific set-up. If
> >>>>     this is localized to just me, I am willing to do some
> >>>>     troubleshooting, but on three computers Chrome's behavior seems
> >>>>     to be the same. About the only improvement I have seen to Chrome
> >>>>     Canary is that NVDA reads out a few additional menu items that
> >>>>     it wasn't reading before. I might try resetting Chrome back to
> >>>>     default settings and removing all plugins to see if that has any
> >>>>     effect, but this installation of Chrome is pretty new, so I'm
> >>>>     not sure if that will help or not.
> >>>>
> >>>>     Thanks.
> >>>>
> >>>>     On 3/27/2016 4:05 PM, Scott VanDeWalle wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>         Hey.
> >>>>         I've been using chrome now for a couple of weeks now i
> >>>> believe.
> >>>>         It is pretty good for the most part.
> >>>>         hth
> >>>>
> >>>>         Scott
> >>>>
> >>>>         On 3/27/2016 9:20 AM, Peter Beasley wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>             My problem with Firefox is that I am no longer able to
> >>>>             use the BBC iplayer. Every time I try to listen to
> >>>>             something, I get a message telling me that the Adobe
> >>>>             flash plugin has crashed. This particular plugin is up
> >>>>             to date and I have been having this problem since early
> >>>>             December. I know this is not anNVDA issue but would be
> >>>>             greatful if anyone has any ideas on how I can sort this
> >>>>             out. I have been using Firefox as my primary browser now
> >>>>             for nearly 9 and a half years.
> >>>>
> >>>>             *From:*mk360 <mailto:mk.seventhson@...>
> >>>>
> >>>>             *Sent:*Sunday, March 27, 2016 1:31 PM
> >>>>
> >>>>             *To:*nvda@groups.io <mailto:nvda@groups.io>
> >>>>
> >>>>             *Subject:*Re: [nvda] Performance degradation in current
> >>>>             Firefox
> >>>>
> >>>>             I've in firefox 45.0.1 and all is working fine.
> >>>>
> >>>>             El 27-03-2016 a las 8:46, Mr. Wong Chi Wai, William
> >>>>             escribió:
> >>>>
> >>>>                 I see no problem with NVDA. I recommend you go onto
> >>>>                 google and search for about:config that can help
> >>>>                 improve firefox performace and that pretty helps.
> >>>>
> >>>>                 Kevin Chao 於27/3/201610:13 寫 道:
> >>>>
> >>>>                     One of Chrome's strengths is performance...I
> >>>>                     experience 0% lag with MVDA when interacting
> >>>>                     with modern web apps.
> >>>>
> >>>>                     On Sat, Mar 26, 2016 at 5:11 PM Supanut
> >>>>                     Leepaisomboon <supanut2000@...
> <mailto:supanut2000@...>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>                         I noticed performance issues with Firefox as
> >>>>                         well, but not just with NVDA, but Jaws as
> >>>>                         well, especially on Facebook where the
> >>>>                         browser lags. Firefox seemed to perform
> >>>>                         poorly on my Surface 3, despite not having
> >>>>                         any addons installed.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>




Re: Problem: No sounds when copying files etc.

Ksenia Natapova
 

Hello,
@Afrim, sorry, but it doesn't work.
@Chriss: NVDA is set to "Beep and speech".

Von meinem iPhone gesendet

Am 04.04.2016 um 17:08 schrieb Chris Mullins <cjmullins29@...>:

Open Object Presentation dialog using NVDA+Control+o and ensure "Report
progress bar Output" is set to beep,speak or beep and speak.

Cheers
Chris
-----Original Message-----
From: Ksenia Natapova via Groups.io
[mailto:ksenia.natapova=yahoo.de@groups.io]
Sent: 04 April 2016 13:55
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Problem: No sounds when copying files etc.

Hello,
I have NVDA installed on my laptop. I don'g hear any sound when I copy and
paste a file or install a program...
I even tried to reset the NVDA settings but I still can't hear any tone. Is
there any way to turn on this option?
Best regards
Ksenia





Re: Problem: No sounds when copying files etc.

Chris Mullins
 

Open Object Presentation dialog using NVDA+Control+o and ensure "Report
progress bar Output" is set to beep,speak or beep and speak.

Cheers
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: Ksenia Natapova via Groups.io
[mailto:ksenia.natapova=yahoo.de@groups.io]
Sent: 04 April 2016 13:55
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Problem: No sounds when copying files etc.

Hello,
I have NVDA installed on my laptop. I don'g hear any sound when I copy and
paste a file or install a program...
I even tried to reset the NVDA settings but I still can't hear any tone. Is
there any way to turn on this option?
Best regards
Ksenia

Re: Problem: No sounds when copying files etc.

afrim maja <afrim.maja@...>
 

Hi,
it should be something like "beap for percentage levels" or something like this.

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 4, 2016, at 4:43 PM, Ksenia Natapova via Groups.io <ksenia.natapova=yahoo.de@groups.io> wrote:

Okay thanks very much. Yes, I'm talking about the sounds of percentage. Thanks for this hint. I will try it at once

Von meinem iPhone gesendet

Am 04.04.2016 um 16:39 schrieb Afrim <afrim.maja@...>:

You can hear sounds when activating or disactivating the browse mode, but not when installing programs. There should be any add-on out there which may play sounds in different areas of your Computer. If you're talking about the sounds of percentage, they can be toggled on by pressing insert plus U to indicate percentage.
Hope it helps. ,

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 4, 2016, at 2:55 PM, Ksenia Natapova via Groups.io <ksenia.natapova=yahoo.de@groups.io> wrote:

Hello,
I have NVDA installed on my laptop. I don'g hear any sound when I copy and paste a file or install a program...
I even tried to reset the NVDA settings but I still can't hear any tone. Is there any way to turn on this option?
Best regards
Ksenia


Re: Problem: No sounds when copying files etc.

Ksenia Natapova
 

Okay thanks very much. Yes, I'm talking about the sounds of percentage. Thanks for this hint. I will try it at once

Von meinem iPhone gesendet

Am 04.04.2016 um 16:39 schrieb Afrim <afrim.maja@...>:

You can hear sounds when activating or disactivating the browse mode, but not when installing programs. There should be any add-on out there which may play sounds in different areas of your Computer. If you're talking about the sounds of percentage, they can be toggled on by pressing insert plus U to indicate percentage.
Hope it helps. ,

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 4, 2016, at 2:55 PM, Ksenia Natapova via Groups.io <ksenia.natapova=yahoo.de@groups.io> wrote:

Hello,
I have NVDA installed on my laptop. I don'g hear any sound when I copy and paste a file or install a program...
I even tried to reset the NVDA settings but I still can't hear any tone. Is there any way to turn on this option?
Best regards
Ksenia

Re: Problem: No sounds when copying files etc.

afrim maja <afrim.maja@...>
 

You can hear sounds when activating or disactivating the browse mode, but not when installing programs. There should be any add-on out there which may play sounds in different areas of your Computer. If you're talking about the sounds of percentage, they can be toggled on by pressing insert plus U to indicate percentage.
Hope it helps. ,

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 4, 2016, at 2:55 PM, Ksenia Natapova via Groups.io <ksenia.natapova=yahoo.de@groups.io> wrote:

Hello,
I have NVDA installed on my laptop. I don'g hear any sound when I copy and paste a file or install a program...
I even tried to reset the NVDA settings but I still can't hear any tone. Is there any way to turn on this option?
Best regards
Ksenia


Re: Problem: No sounds when copying files etc.

Chris
 

nope its buggered

On 04/04/2016 13:55, Ksenia Natapova via Groups.io wrote:
Hello,
I have NVDA installed on my laptop. I don'g hear any sound when I copy and paste a file or install a program...
I even tried to reset the NVDA settings but I still can't hear any tone. Is there any way to turn on this option?
Best regards
Ksenia

Re: suggestion: giving google chrome a try Performance degradation in current Firefox

Mallard
 

Gene,

Sorry dear, but I'm not ready to pay for something I should be entitled to have for free, like anyone else.

I'm ready to pay thousnds of dollars for a good braille display, or even for a good substitute of the Optacon, because those are devices that are specific for us.
But I'm not ready to pay for something that sighted people have for free, just because my eyes don't function as they should.

Ok, you are in New Zealand and I'm in Italy... We're at the antipode georaphically, and it's quite normal that we should have opposite world views... lol
Ciao,
Ollie - who will never pay for Rumola service

Il 04/04/2016 14:59, Gene ha scritto:
How much does Rumola charge to solve one captcha? Is it less than a penny? And people are complaining about the company because it doesn't provide customer service? You get what you pay for.
Someone has just started a much much more expensive captcha solving service for blind people. We'll see how many people are willing to pay these much higher prices.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Kwork <mailto:istherelife@...>
*Sent:* Monday, April 04, 2016 7:46 AM
*To:* nvda@groups.io <mailto:nvda@groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: suggestion: giving google chrome a try [nvda] Performance degradation in current Firefox

Diddo! And for their lack of customer service, I also hope the Rumola
service starves to death. Completely with you on this one.
Travis
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mallard" <mallard@... <mailto:mallard@...>>
To: <nvda@groups.io <mailto:nvda@groups.io>>
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2016 3:57 AM
Subject: Re: suggestion: giving google chrome a try [nvda] Performance
degradation in current Firefox


No, Rumola never!
I tried it, and they "ate up" my free captchas without me even start the
programme... As soon as I tried to solve a captcha in the trial, I was
told that I had already used them all up.
Which made me understand that they are not serious, so I abandoned the
project immediately.
As fara sI'm concerned, they can starve to the end of eternity!
Ciao,
Ollie




Il 02/04/2016 22:24, David Moore ha scritto:
Hi,
You have to use Ramola captscha add on. You pay 95 cents to solve 150
captschas and so on. Have a great one.


-----Original Message----- From: Mallard
Sent: Saturday, April 2, 2016 8:02 AM
To: nvda@groups.io <mailto:nvda@groups.io>
Subject: Re: suggestion: giving google chrome a try [nvda] Performance
degradation in current Firefox

Hello,

But what happens with Captcha solving in Chrome?

Ciao,
Ollie




Il 02/04/2016 09:52, Nimer Jaber ha scritto:
Hello,

I am very happy to say that my issues at least have been addressed,
and that browsing with Chrome and NVDA is the best it has ever been.

On 02-Apr-16 02:40, Kevin Chao wrote:
Please retry with latest build of Chrome Canary... Accessibility
improvements went in!
On Sun, Mar 27, 2016 at 4:08 PM Nimer Jaber <nimerjaber1@...
<mailto:nimerjaber1@...>>
wrote:

Hello,

Please find my answers below. I am hoping that some of these
issues are just the way that my specific configuration is set up.


On 27-Mar-16 17:55, Chris Mullins wrote:

Hi Nimer

Just a few questions:

Can I establish if you are using Chrome or Canary?
Canary

What is ChromeVox?
Chromevox is Google's screen reading option that a user can
enable while using Chrome or Chrome OS.

What is the status of the ‘automatically run say all on page
load’ in the NVDA Browse mode dialog?
Unchecked.

What is the status of the ‘automatic focus mode for focus
changes’ in the NVDA Browse mode dialog?
Checked

What is the status of the ‘automatic focus mode for caret
movement’ in the NVDA Browse mode dialog?
Unchecked


I have Chrome and Canary and don’t get the same as you re
pressing tab to see the content in either version of the browser

The quick navigation keys operate when you are in browse mode
and I’ve not had trouble with them in standard web pages with
eiter browser but there is a problem with them in the settings
page of Chrome but they seem to work OK in the Canary settings
page.

The chrome menu reads perfectly in chrome but there are a couple
of gaps in the Canary version after Zoom and Edit entries.

Cheers

Chris

*From:*Nimer Jaber [mailto:nimerjaber1@...]
*Sent:* 27 March 2016 22:37
*To:* nvda@groups.io <mailto:nvda@groups.io>
<mailto:nvda@groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: suggestion: giving google chrome a try [nvda]
Performance degradation in current Firefox

Unfortunately, Chrome accessibility has a bit of a ways to go. I
wish it didn't. I wish I could reliably use Chrome without the
strangeness that persists, but I can't. With Canary, some menu
items are not read out by NVDA, but are by Chromevox. Others are
read out by NVDA and not by Chromevox. I don't want two screen
reading packages running. When navigating the web and going to a
new web page, I seem to have to push tab after a new page loads,
otherwise NVDA doesn't seem to see the content on the page. When
doing a search on the Google page and when navigating around
Chrome in general, pressing H to navigate by heading only works
sometimes, but sometimes locks up until I again press tab to
force it to get back to the content. The sign-in process in
Chrome does not work with NVDA. I needed to use Window-eyes to
get it to read the content. JAWS was also unable to read it. And
I will post another thread about this, but Hangouts doesn't work
very well. the Hangouts app seems to be totally inaccessible to
next branches of NVDA and Canary. And the keyboard shortcuts
that Google outlines in their manual at
https://support.google.com/hangouts/answer/3112005?rd=1 don't
work when navigating to hangouts.google.com
<http://hangouts.google.com>, and the article doesn't specify
where exactly these shortcuts are supposed to work. Actually
many hotkeys that Google outlines interfere with
browser-specific hotkeys. So I would be happy to transition to
using Chrome, as Firefox is becoming awful, but that would mean
a huge loss of productivity for me. So if you have been able to
get Chrome to work more reliably, I am interested in which
version of Chrome and which version of NVDA, as well as any
settings changes that you have made for your specific set-up. If
this is localized to just me, I am willing to do some
troubleshooting, but on three computers Chrome's behavior seems
to be the same. About the only improvement I have seen to Chrome
Canary is that NVDA reads out a few additional menu items that
it wasn't reading before. I might try resetting Chrome back to
default settings and removing all plugins to see if that has any
effect, but this installation of Chrome is pretty new, so I'm
not sure if that will help or not.

Thanks.

On 3/27/2016 4:05 PM, Scott VanDeWalle wrote:

Hey.
I've been using chrome now for a couple of weeks now i
believe.
It is pretty good for the most part.
hth

Scott

On 3/27/2016 9:20 AM, Peter Beasley wrote:

My problem with Firefox is that I am no longer able to
use the BBC iplayer. Every time I try to listen to
something, I get a message telling me that the Adobe
flash plugin has crashed. This particular plugin is up
to date and I have been having this problem since early
December. I know this is not anNVDA issue but would be
greatful if anyone has any ideas on how I can sort this
out. I have been using Firefox as my primary browser now
for nearly 9 and a half years.

*From:*mk360 <mailto:mk.seventhson@...>

*Sent:*Sunday, March 27, 2016 1:31 PM

*To:*nvda@groups.io <mailto:nvda@groups.io>

*Subject:*Re: [nvda] Performance degradation in current
Firefox

I've in firefox 45.0.1 and all is working fine.

El 27-03-2016 a las 8:46, Mr. Wong Chi Wai, William
escribió:

I see no problem with NVDA. I recommend you go onto
google and search for about:config that can help
improve firefox performace and that pretty helps.

Kevin Chao 於27/3/201610:13 寫 道:

One of Chrome's strengths is performance...I
experience 0% lag with MVDA when interacting
with modern web apps.

On Sat, Mar 26, 2016 at 5:11 PM Supanut
Leepaisomboon <@supanut2000
<mailto:@supanut2000>> wrote:

I noticed performance issues with Firefox as
well, but not just with NVDA, but Jaws as
well, especially on Facebook where the
browser lags. Firefox seemed to perform
poorly on my Surface 3, despite not having
any addons installed.











Re: suggestion: giving google chrome a try Performance degradation in current Firefox

Gene
 

How much does Rumola charge to solve one captcha?  Is it less than a penny?  And people are complaining about the company because it doesn't provide customer service?  You get what you pay for. 
 
Someone has just started a much much more expensive captcha solving service for blind people.  We'll see how many people are willing to pay these much higher prices.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Kwork
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2016 7:46 AM
Subject: Re: suggestion: giving google chrome a try [nvda] Performance degradation in current Firefox

Diddo! And for their lack of customer service, I also hope the Rumola
service starves to death. Completely with you on this one.
Travis
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mallard" <mallard@...>
To: <nvda@groups.io>
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2016 3:57 AM
Subject: Re: suggestion: giving google chrome a try [nvda] Performance
degradation in current Firefox


No, Rumola never!
I tried it, and they "ate up" my free captchas without me even start the
programme... As soon as I tried to solve a captcha in the trial, I was
told that I had already used them all up.
Which made me understand that they are not serious, so I abandoned the
project immediately.
As fara sI'm concerned, they can starve to the end of eternity!
Ciao,
Ollie




Il 02/04/2016 22:24, David Moore ha scritto:
> Hi,
> You have to use Ramola captscha add on. You pay 95 cents to solve 150
> captschas and so on. Have a great one.
>
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Mallard
> Sent: Saturday, April 2, 2016 8:02 AM
> To: nvda@groups.io
> Subject: Re: suggestion: giving google chrome a try [nvda] Performance
> degradation in current Firefox
>
> Hello,
>
> But what happens with Captcha solving in Chrome?
>
> Ciao,
> Ollie
>
>
>
>
> Il 02/04/2016 09:52, Nimer Jaber ha scritto:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I am very happy to say that my issues at least have been addressed,
>> and that browsing with Chrome and NVDA is the best it has ever been.
>>
>> On 02-Apr-16 02:40, Kevin Chao wrote:
>>> Please retry with latest build of Chrome Canary... Accessibility
>>> improvements went in!
>>> On Sun, Mar 27, 2016 at 4:08 PM Nimer Jaber <nimerjaber1@...>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>     Hello,
>>>
>>>     Please find my answers below. I am hoping that some of these
>>>     issues are just the way that my specific configuration is set up.
>>>
>>>
>>>     On 27-Mar-16 17:55, Chris Mullins wrote:
>>>>
>>>>     Hi Nimer
>>>>
>>>>     Just a few questions:
>>>>
>>>>     Can I establish if you  are using Chrome or Canary?
>>>>
>>>     Canary
>>>>
>>>>     What is ChromeVox?
>>>>
>>>     Chromevox is Google's screen reading option that a user can
>>>     enable while using Chrome or Chrome OS.
>>>
>>>>     What is the status of the ‘automatically run say all on page
>>>>     load’ in  the NVDA Browse mode dialog?
>>>>
>>>     Unchecked.
>>>
>>>>     What is the status of the ‘automatic focus mode for focus
>>>>     changes’ in  the NVDA Browse mode dialog?
>>>>
>>>     Checked
>>>
>>>>     What is the status of the ‘automatic focus mode for caret
>>>>     movement’ in  the NVDA Browse mode dialog?
>>>>
>>>     Unchecked
>>>
>>>
>>>>     I have   Chrome and Canary and don’t get the same as you re
>>>>     pressing tab to see the content in either version of the browser
>>>>
>>>>     The quick navigation keys operate when you are in browse mode
>>>>     and I’ve not had trouble with them in standard web pages with
>>>>     eiter browser but there is a problem with them in the settings
>>>>     page of Chrome but they seem to work OK in the Canary settings
>>>> page.
>>>>
>>>>     The chrome menu reads perfectly in chrome but there are a couple
>>>>     of gaps in the Canary version after Zoom and Edit entries.
>>>>
>>>>     Cheers
>>>>
>>>>     Chris
>>>>
>>>>     *From:*Nimer Jaber [mailto:nimerjaber1@...]
>>>>     *Sent:* 27 March 2016 22:37
>>>>     *To:* nvda@groups.io <mailto:nvda@groups.io>
>>>>     *Subject:* Re: suggestion: giving google chrome a try [nvda]
>>>>     Performance degradation in current Firefox
>>>>
>>>>     Unfortunately, Chrome accessibility has a bit of a ways to go. I
>>>>     wish it didn't. I wish I could reliably use Chrome without the
>>>>     strangeness that persists, but I can't. With Canary, some menu
>>>>     items are not read out by NVDA, but are by Chromevox. Others are
>>>>     read out by NVDA and not by Chromevox. I don't want two screen
>>>>     reading packages running. When navigating the web and going to a
>>>>     new web page, I seem to have to push tab after a new page loads,
>>>>     otherwise NVDA doesn't seem to see the content on the page. When
>>>>     doing a search on the Google page and when navigating around
>>>>     Chrome in general, pressing H to navigate by heading only works
>>>>     sometimes, but sometimes locks up until I again press tab to
>>>>     force it to get back to the content. The sign-in process in
>>>>     Chrome does not work with NVDA. I needed to use Window-eyes to
>>>>     get it to read the content. JAWS was also unable to read it. And
>>>>     I will post another thread about this, but Hangouts doesn't work
>>>>     very well. the Hangouts app seems to be totally inaccessible to
>>>>     next branches of NVDA and Canary. And the keyboard shortcuts
>>>>     that Google outlines in their manual at
>>>>     https://support.google.com/hangouts/answer/3112005?rd=1 don't
>>>>     work when navigating to hangouts.google.com
>>>>     <http://hangouts.google.com>, and the article doesn't specify
>>>>     where exactly these shortcuts are supposed to work. Actually
>>>>     many hotkeys that Google outlines interfere with
>>>>     browser-specific hotkeys. So I would be happy to transition to
>>>>     using Chrome, as Firefox is becoming awful, but that would mean
>>>>     a huge loss of productivity for me. So if you have been able to
>>>>     get Chrome to work more reliably, I am interested in which
>>>>     version of Chrome and which version of NVDA, as well as any
>>>>     settings changes that you have made for your specific set-up. If
>>>>     this is localized to just me, I am willing to do some
>>>>     troubleshooting, but on three computers Chrome's behavior seems
>>>>     to be the same. About the only improvement I have seen to Chrome
>>>>     Canary is that NVDA reads out a few additional menu items that
>>>>     it wasn't reading before. I might try resetting Chrome back to
>>>>     default settings and removing all plugins to see if that has any
>>>>     effect, but this installation of Chrome is pretty new, so I'm
>>>>     not sure if that will help or not.
>>>>
>>>>     Thanks.
>>>>
>>>>     On 3/27/2016 4:05 PM, Scott VanDeWalle wrote:
>>>>
>>>>         Hey.
>>>>         I've been using chrome now for a couple of weeks now i
>>>> believe.
>>>>         It is pretty good for the most part.
>>>>         hth
>>>>
>>>>         Scott
>>>>
>>>>         On 3/27/2016 9:20 AM, Peter Beasley wrote:
>>>>
>>>>             My problem with Firefox is that I am no longer able to
>>>>             use the BBC iplayer. Every time I try to listen to
>>>>             something, I get a message telling me that the Adobe
>>>>             flash plugin has crashed. This particular plugin is up
>>>>             to date and I have been having this problem since early
>>>>             December. I know this is not anNVDA issue but would be
>>>>             greatful if anyone has any ideas on how I can sort this
>>>>             out. I have been using Firefox as my primary browser now
>>>>             for nearly 9 and a half years.
>>>>
>>>>             *From:*mk360 <mailto:mk.seventhson@...>
>>>>
>>>>             *Sent:*Sunday, March 27, 2016 1:31 PM
>>>>
>>>>             *To:*nvda@groups.io <mailto:nvda@groups.io>
>>>>
>>>>             *Subject:*Re: [nvda] Performance degradation in current
>>>>             Firefox
>>>>
>>>>             I've in firefox 45.0.1 and all is working fine.
>>>>
>>>>             El 27-03-2016 a las 8:46, Mr. Wong Chi Wai, William
>>>>             escribió:
>>>>
>>>>                 I see no problem with NVDA. I recommend you go onto
>>>>                 google and search for about:config that can help
>>>>                 improve firefox performace and that pretty helps.
>>>>
>>>>                 Kevin Chao 於27/3/201610:13 寫 道:
>>>>
>>>>                     One of Chrome's strengths is performance...I
>>>>                     experience 0% lag with MVDA when interacting
>>>>                     with modern web apps.
>>>>
>>>>                     On Sat, Mar 26, 2016 at 5:11 PM Supanut
>>>>                     Leepaisomboon <supanut2000@...> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>                         I noticed performance issues with Firefox as
>>>>                         well, but not just with NVDA, but Jaws as
>>>>                         well, especially on Facebook where the
>>>>                         browser lags. Firefox seemed to perform
>>>>                         poorly on my Surface 3, despite not having
>>>>                         any addons installed.
>>>>
>>>
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