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Re: ESpeak

Christo Vorster
 

I saw this message too late, but am glad that you found the rest. Listen and let me know whether you hear the "loose false teeth" clattering

-----Original Message-----
From: Christo de Klerk [mailto:christodeklerk@...]
Sent: Thursday, 21 April 2016 10:39 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] ESpeak

Hello again Christo

Please ignore my previous message. I have seen now that there are a lot of voices that can be used for Afrikaans. This is something new. I didn't notice it, because I have not been using eSpeak that comes with NVDA, but a version that I installed separately which I can also use from other programs. This is a nice new feature. I tried a number of the voices and I think for Afrikaans I like Rob the best. Thank you for opening my ears to the new voices. I learnt something today.

Regards

Christo


On 2016/04/21 7:14 AM, Christo Vorster wrote:
Hi Angela and List

I understand exactly what you say. In Afrikaans I have the same problem. It is true that many of the Afrikaans speaking people pronounce their "r" like the French, but it is not the norm.

I echo your sentiments concerning the request for someone, with much more knowledge than I on this matter, to try and make a plan.

I have a further problem with ESpeak in Afrikaans. When I use certain voices it sounds like someone speaking with loose false teeth, at the point of losing them. Maybe the developers can try to solve that problem while they work on the "r".

Regards

Christo from South Africa

-----Original Message-----
From: Angela Delicata via Groups.io
[mailto:angeladelicata=libero.it@groups.io]
Sent: Wednesday, 20 April 2016 4:03 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] ESpeak

What I really do not like about espeak is the sound of r in my
language: the letter is spoken very different in Italian.
It is not like the French r.

Please, if you could try to solve this.
Hope I was clear as I don't know how to better explain that.
Thank you.
Angela from Italy

Il 20/04/2016 15:26, Josh Kennedy ha scritto:
I would love the speech player edward voice to support all of
espeak's phonemes and languages as well as the default voice. I like
klatt voices. but my issue with klatt edward is that it does not have
all the phonemes of original espeak. please fix this because i really
like the edward voice and wish i could just use it in any espeak-supported language!
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Direct Link for NVDA 10th Anniversary Conference and What To Do After TeamTalk is Loaded

James Robinson
 

 
    Helllo There!
 
I have teamtalk installed on my computer; now, what do I do to get to the conference; and can I just listen to all others while they are talking without interacting with the system?
Sincerely,


James Arthur Robinson, Sr., President
Jardata Corporation

Re: Is there seriously a possibility of "DOING AWAY WITH ESPEAK"? DOING AWAY WITH ESPEAK

ChrisLeo
 

Yes, I agree, ...and then what?

As far as i know, NVDA just switched from eSpeak to eSpeak-ng on developed branchs.
Espeak-ng contains improvements for several languages and more languages than eSpeak.
From gitHub you can watch and send issues on:
https://github.com/espeak-ng/espeak-ng

The R sounds mentioned in another messages for some language is a knoun issue, from here we are studing for spanish and italian trill R.
Ciao,


Chris.

Mallard, 20/04/2016 22:41:

Doing away with Espeak, and then what?

Compelling people to buy commercial voices?


I think espeak is still the best non-human synth freely available.

I have Vocalizer Expressive, but I only use the Russian and Hebrew voices.

the Italian voices are awful to say the least. Not the sound, but the
intonation. They all sound foreign, get lots of accents wrong, and after
a while I just can't stand them anymore.


If there's a viable, free, open source alternative, then ok. If not,
long live Espeak!

Re: IMPORTANT: This list is now under emergency mode #adminnotice

Christo Vorster
 

Hi

 

I think that Twitter, and all the other social media, are useful to a point, that is if you have the time to hang around on it. Personally I only use email because I don’t have time to waste with the social media.

 

As far as ESpeak is concerned, why go into so much trouble to create new voices if it is possible to improve the existing ones? To me that is senseless.

 

From: Lino Morales [mailto:linomorales001@...]
Sent: Wednesday, 20 April 2016 9:54 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] IMPORTANT: This list is now under emergency mode #AdminNotice #ModNotice

 

Well great that there is a new list for chit chat, but that's what's FB and twitter is for.

 

On 4/20/2016 3:50 PM, Scott VanDeWalle wrote:

Hello, I have thought about this muchly for the past few, well since this list was ported over to groups.io.
I do agree that we need a sublist for offtopic messages and just sillyness and carrying on.
Yet at the same time we'd have to keep some sort of a way to track so that nobody could knowingly send us off to some link somewhere that would contain a virus.
Notice i said knowingly, i know sometimes its bound to happen.

Anyway, that is just my idea.
Have a nice day all.

Scott

On 4/20/2016 4:28 AM, Christo Vorster wrote:

Hello Joseph, and list

 

I am one of the guilty parties and wish to apologise if my posts was out of line as far as this list is concerned. I will refrain from off topic discussions in futere.

 

Having said that, I support the suggestion of a possible sub-list to be used for off topic chats.

 

Cheers

 

Christo

 

From: Joseph Lee [mailto:joseph.lee22590@...]
Sent: Wednesday, 20 April 2016 8:04 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] IMPORTANT: This list is now under emergency mode #AdminNotice #ModNotice

 

Dear members of the NVDA community and members of this forum:

 

First, thank you for your valuable posts for the past few days.

 

It has been brought to our attention that we’re straying way off topic from the purpose of this forum, stemming from a discussion that the moderator has intervened. A few hours later, someone started discussing a topic that didn’t fit the subject line to a point where we’ve started discussing other topics.

 

For the past few hours, Joseph Lee (the moderator/associate owner) was debating whether to declare an emergency, a first of its kind for this forum. An emergency mode means all off-topic posts are closed immediately. He says that, as the chair of the committee in charge of NVDACon preparations, he felt uneasy regarding this, seeing that this could have an impact on the reputation of NVDA, NVDACon and this forum.

 

Thus, Joseph Lee says:

 

I, Joseph Lee, seeing the current situation on the NVDA list and due to an important event that’ll take place in less than 48 hours from now, hereby declare that an emergency exists in NVDA International Users Forum. Any off-topic subjects discussed for the past few hours, shortly after the moderator’s declaration on April 18, 2016, are hereby nullified (threads closed). This emergency will be lifted once the leadership team (Nimer Jaber and Joseph Lee) determine that the conditions for emergency mode is no more.

 

Joseph speaking:

 

On mailing lists I’m a moderator of, I usually allow some off-topic posts. But what we saw for the past few hours has been something that is beyond words. Perhaps I’m feeling the stress while organizing NVDACon 2016 (which has been in the works for the past six months), perhaps I’m feeling academic stress, perhaps I’m worried too much about the reputation of this forum and what not. For the past few days, I’ve been thinking about current state of this community and what we can do to make it better, as well as to help NV Access and other members of the NVDA community have a joyful year throughout 2016 as we celebrate NVDA’s tenth anniversary. To put it bluntly, I’m very disappointed at the state of NVDA International Users Forum, and to put it nicely, we’re in the danger of alienating potential community members due to our conduct (and some people did leave our list). If this happened at another time, it would have ended with a letter; but we’re living in the eve of NVDA Users and Developers Conference 2016 (tenth Anniversary Edition), an important event that’ll serve as an important occasion for each and every one of us to unite under NVDA, its history, future potential and celebrating its features. To find an international forum conducting ourselves like this at the eve of this important event is, to me, a huge public relations disaster (and I’m not saying this lightly).

 

At this moment I’d like to kindly ask that we ask ourselves the following: how did this happen, why is this happening, and what can we do?

 

Thus, for the sake of NV Access, rest of the NVDA community, NVDACon organizers and for other users around the world, I’d like to sincerely request that we show ourselves as model users and community members throughout NVDACon days and beyond (like many of you, I’d like to see NVDACon become a successful gathering).

 

If you have any questions, commetns or concerns regarding the emergency mode, please let Nimer and I (Joseph Lee) now via email at nvda+owner@groups.io. Thank you.

 

Sincerely,

Joseph S. Lee

Moderator, NVDA International Users Forum

Translator, code contributor and community add-ons reviewer, NVDA screen reader project

Chair, NVDA Tenth Anniversary Planning Committee

 

 

 

AW: ESpeak

Eigeldinger Simon
 

Hi all,

seems for each language you need to choose a different variant.
For german for example max works best.


Mit freundlichen Grüßen

Simon Eigeldinger
Sekretariat Nebengebäude 2
Nebengebäude 2, OG1
-------------------------
Stadt Hohenems
Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Straße 4
6845 Hohenems
Österreich
Tel.: +43 (0)5576/7101-1211
Fax: +43 (0)5576/7101-1119
E-Mail: simon.eigeldinger@...
Web: www.hohenems.at

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-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Jacob Kruger [mailto:jacob@...]
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 21. April 2016 10:39
An: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Betreff: Re: [nvda] ESpeak

Both Christo's, maybe this relates to voice variants?

While the klatt variants sound closer to somewhat natural sounding
voices, I myself, most of the time, use tweaky variant, no matter which
language am setting it to, and this is since it offers me the sort of
cleanest differentiation between various letters that might otherwise
sound somewhat similar, but anyway.

And, that's just my guess relating to what Christo Vorster is referring to.

Stay well

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Roger Wilco wants to welcome you...to the space janitor's closet..."

On 2016-04-21 10:23 AM, Christo de Klerk wrote:
Christo

I am not sure I understand what you say. I quote: "I have a further
problem with ESpeak in Afrikaans. When I use certain voices..." There is
only one Afrikaans voice. It sounds like you have a problem with other
Afrikaans voices. Where did you get those?

Regards

Other Christo

On 2016/04/21 7:14 AM, Christo Vorster wrote:
Hi Angela and List

I understand exactly what you say. In Afrikaans I have the same
problem. It is true that many of the Afrikaans speaking people
pronounce their "r" like the French, but it is not the norm.

I echo your sentiments concerning the request for someone, with much
more knowledge than I on this matter, to try and make a plan.

I have a further problem with ESpeak in Afrikaans. When I use certain
voices it sounds like someone speaking with loose false teeth, at the
point of losing them. Maybe the developers can try to solve that
problem while they work on the "r".

Regards

Christo from South Africa

-----Original Message-----
From: Angela Delicata via Groups.io
[mailto:angeladelicata=libero.it@groups.io]
Sent: Wednesday, 20 April 2016 4:03 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] ESpeak

What I really do not like about espeak is the sound of r in my
language: the letter is spoken very different in Italian.
It is not like the French r.

Please, if you could try to solve this.
Hope I was clear as I don't know how to better explain that.
Thank you.
Angela from Italy

Il 20/04/2016 15:26, Josh Kennedy ha scritto:
I would love the speech player edward voice to support all of espeak's
phonemes and languages as well as the default voice. I like klatt
voices. but my issue with klatt edward is that it does not have all
the phonemes of original espeak. please fix this because i really like
the edward voice and wish i could just use it in any espeak-supported
language!
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Re: ESpeak

Christo de Klerk
 

Hello again Christo

Please ignore my previous message. I have seen now that there are a lot of voices that can be used for Afrikaans. This is something new. I didn't notice it, because I have not been using eSpeak that comes with NVDA, but a version that I installed separately which I can also use from other programs. This is a nice new feature. I tried a number of the voices and I think for Afrikaans I like Rob the best. Thank you for opening my ears to the new voices. I learnt something today.

Regards

Christo

On 2016/04/21 7:14 AM, Christo Vorster wrote:
Hi Angela and List

I understand exactly what you say. In Afrikaans I have the same problem. It is true that many of the Afrikaans speaking people pronounce their "r" like the French, but it is not the norm.

I echo your sentiments concerning the request for someone, with much more knowledge than I on this matter, to try and make a plan.

I have a further problem with ESpeak in Afrikaans. When I use certain voices it sounds like someone speaking with loose false teeth, at the point of losing them. Maybe the developers can try to solve that problem while they work on the "r".

Regards

Christo from South Africa

-----Original Message-----
From: Angela Delicata via Groups.io [mailto:angeladelicata=libero.it@groups.io]
Sent: Wednesday, 20 April 2016 4:03 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] ESpeak

What I really do not like about espeak is the sound of r in my
language: the letter is spoken very different in Italian.
It is not like the French r.

Please, if you could try to solve this.
Hope I was clear as I don't know how to better explain that.
Thank you.
Angela from Italy

Il 20/04/2016 15:26, Josh Kennedy ha scritto:
I would love the speech player edward voice to support all of espeak's
phonemes and languages as well as the default voice. I like klatt
voices. but my issue with klatt edward is that it does not have all
the phonemes of original espeak. please fix this because i really like
the edward voice and wish i could just use it in any espeak-supported language!
---
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Re: ESpeak

Jacob Kruger
 

Both Christo's, maybe this relates to voice variants?

While the klatt variants sound closer to somewhat natural sounding voices, I myself, most of the time, use tweaky variant, no matter which language am setting it to, and this is since it offers me the sort of cleanest differentiation between various letters that might otherwise sound somewhat similar, but anyway.

And, that's just my guess relating to what Christo Vorster is referring to.

Stay well

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Roger Wilco wants to welcome you...to the space janitor's closet..."

On 2016-04-21 10:23 AM, Christo de Klerk wrote:
Christo

I am not sure I understand what you say. I quote: "I have a further
problem with ESpeak in Afrikaans. When I use certain voices..." There is
only one Afrikaans voice. It sounds like you have a problem with other
Afrikaans voices. Where did you get those?

Regards

Other Christo

On 2016/04/21 7:14 AM, Christo Vorster wrote:
Hi Angela and List

I understand exactly what you say. In Afrikaans I have the same
problem. It is true that many of the Afrikaans speaking people
pronounce their "r" like the French, but it is not the norm.

I echo your sentiments concerning the request for someone, with much
more knowledge than I on this matter, to try and make a plan.

I have a further problem with ESpeak in Afrikaans. When I use certain
voices it sounds like someone speaking with loose false teeth, at the
point of losing them. Maybe the developers can try to solve that
problem while they work on the "r".

Regards

Christo from South Africa

-----Original Message-----
From: Angela Delicata via Groups.io
[mailto:angeladelicata=libero.it@groups.io]
Sent: Wednesday, 20 April 2016 4:03 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] ESpeak

What I really do not like about espeak is the sound of r in my
language: the letter is spoken very different in Italian.
It is not like the French r.

Please, if you could try to solve this.
Hope I was clear as I don't know how to better explain that.
Thank you.
Angela from Italy

Il 20/04/2016 15:26, Josh Kennedy ha scritto:
I would love the speech player edward voice to support all of espeak's
phonemes and languages as well as the default voice. I like klatt
voices. but my issue with klatt edward is that it does not have all
the phonemes of original espeak. please fix this because i really like
the edward voice and wish i could just use it in any espeak-supported
language!
---
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Re: ESpeak

Christo de Klerk
 

Christo

I am not sure I understand what you say. I quote: "I have a further problem with ESpeak in Afrikaans. When I use certain voices..." There is only one Afrikaans voice. It sounds like you have a problem with other Afrikaans voices. Where did you get those?

Regards

Other Christo

On 2016/04/21 7:14 AM, Christo Vorster wrote:
Hi Angela and List

I understand exactly what you say. In Afrikaans I have the same problem. It is true that many of the Afrikaans speaking people pronounce their "r" like the French, but it is not the norm.

I echo your sentiments concerning the request for someone, with much more knowledge than I on this matter, to try and make a plan.

I have a further problem with ESpeak in Afrikaans. When I use certain voices it sounds like someone speaking with loose false teeth, at the point of losing them. Maybe the developers can try to solve that problem while they work on the "r".

Regards

Christo from South Africa

-----Original Message-----
From: Angela Delicata via Groups.io [mailto:angeladelicata=libero.it@groups.io]
Sent: Wednesday, 20 April 2016 4:03 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] ESpeak

What I really do not like about espeak is the sound of r in my
language: the letter is spoken very different in Italian.
It is not like the French r.

Please, if you could try to solve this.
Hope I was clear as I don't know how to better explain that.
Thank you.
Angela from Italy

Il 20/04/2016 15:26, Josh Kennedy ha scritto:
I would love the speech player edward voice to support all of espeak's
phonemes and languages as well as the default voice. I like klatt
voices. but my issue with klatt edward is that it does not have all
the phonemes of original espeak. please fix this because i really like
the edward voice and wish i could just use it in any espeak-supported language!
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Re: nvda and windows 98 virtual machine?

 

agreed
can I please get the subscrian info again?
thanks
Hank

On 4/21/2016 1:05 AM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Well it can actually be done.
If you use nv remote to a machine with talking dosbox on that, in theory I guess if you then booted windows from there and had another reader on there not nvda you could control it with nvda it was done via 3.1
Seriously though we should put this all on chat I mean our lovely councel made that today.



On 21/04/2016 2:41 p.m., Lino Morales wrote:
You can have loads of fun if you ran say JAWS 3.7 under that VM. Have
fun kid.


On 4/20/2016 10:40 PM, Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona wrote:
I figured it didn't run under
windows 98 but figured I would ask none the less

On 4/20/2016 7:37 PM, Lino Morales wrote:
Hank you insane. The answer is no.


On 4/20/2016 9:24 PM, Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona wrote:
Hello I know this is a long shot but figured I would ask here
does nvda work with windows 98? if so what version? I am playing
around with a win98 vm and was curious if I could get nvda to run on
the os
I would be using this for nastelgia purposes
thanks
Hank










.

Re: nvda and windows 98 virtual machine?

 

Hi,
Python itself does not support Windows 9x. Also, if you do attempt to run nvda.exe on an unsupported version of Windows, Windows itself will refuse to run it.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: Shaun Everiss [mailto:@smeveriss]
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2016 1:05 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda and windows 98 virtual machine?

Well it can actually be done.
If you use nv remote to a machine with talking dosbox on that, in theory I guess if you then booted windows from there and had another reader on there not nvda you could control it with nvda it was done via 3.1 Seriously though we should put this all on chat I mean our lovely councel made that today.



On 21/04/2016 2:41 p.m., Lino Morales wrote:
You can have loads of fun if you ran say JAWS 3.7 under that VM. Have
fun kid.


On 4/20/2016 10:40 PM, Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona wrote:
I figured it didn't run under
windows 98 but figured I would ask none the less

On 4/20/2016 7:37 PM, Lino Morales wrote:
Hank you insane. The answer is no.


On 4/20/2016 9:24 PM, Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona wrote:
Hello I know this is a long shot but figured I would ask here does
nvda work with windows 98? if so what version? I am playing around
with a win98 vm and was curious if I could get nvda to run on the
os I would be using this for nastelgia purposes thanks Hank










.

Re: nvda and windows 98 virtual machine?

 

Well it can actually be done.
If you use nv remote to a machine with talking dosbox on that, in theory I guess if you then booted windows from there and had another reader on there not nvda you could control it with nvda it was done via 3.1
Seriously though we should put this all on chat I mean our lovely councel made that today.

On 21/04/2016 2:41 p.m., Lino Morales wrote:
You can have loads of fun if you ran say JAWS 3.7 under that VM. Have
fun kid.


On 4/20/2016 10:40 PM, Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona wrote:
I figured it didn't run under
windows 98 but figured I would ask none the less

On 4/20/2016 7:37 PM, Lino Morales wrote:
Hank you insane. The answer is no.


On 4/20/2016 9:24 PM, Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona wrote:
Hello I know this is a long shot but figured I would ask here
does nvda work with windows 98? if so what version? I am playing
around with a win98 vm and was curious if I could get nvda to run on
the os
I would be using this for nastelgia purposes
thanks
Hank









.

Re: nvda-kor.org warning problem message

 

If configured firefox and its addons will selfupgrade when one exists.
Usually unless there is something wrong you don't notice.

On 21/04/2016 5:44 p.m., Patrick Le Baudour wrote:
Hi,

I think you were totally right, That does sound very fishy.
- If an update is needed, it should be by firefox itself or the add-ons
update system, not from a third-party wevsite. Even if it did exist.
- "your vulnerability is 93%" sounds alarmist and doesn't mean anything.
As a general rule, even if it had more meaningful information, websites
can't estimate that kind of things anyway since they are kept from
accessing most of your computer.


-- Patrick
Le 21/04/2016 04:08, Scott VanDeWalle a écrit :
Hello.
I was just sitting on the site tonight reading the teamtalk instructions
and about the events.

Suddenly i got a message that i needed to install a firefox patch, it
was from a site that i did not recognize, so i stopped it, thanksfully.
But i was told my volnerability was 93%.
I just thought I should ask, was i smart in not letting that go through,
or is there really a patch for firefox.
Thank you

Scott

AW: AW: remote desktop

Eigeldinger Simon
 

First you might look that you have a virtual sound card. If not install one.
Then you might need a sighted person.
Then you install nvda with that person.
Then you can install the remote addon.
Then go to tools/remote and go to options.
Enable the auto connect box and enter nvdaremote.com to use the relay server.
Enter a key. This can be numbers or letters or both.
Then you should be able to connect to your system.

To test you install nvda on your client as well.
And the remote addon.
Then open the nvda menu and go to tools/remote and connect.
Then select that you are a client and that you want to remotely control the machine.
Then enter nvdaremote.com as the host and then your key.
Hit ok.
Then you should be connected.
You hear some high beeps.
Hit f11 to send keys and if you want to stop sending keys hit f11 again.





Mit freundlichen Grüßen

Simon Eigeldinger
Sekretariat Nebengebäude 2
Nebengebäude 2, OG1
-------------------------
Stadt Hohenems
Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Straße 4
6845 Hohenems
Österreich
Tel.: +43 (0)5576/7101-1211
Fax: +43 (0)5576/7101-1119
E-Mail: simon.eigeldinger@...
Web: www.hohenems.at

Diese Nachricht und allfällige angehängte Dokumente sind vertraulich und nur für den/die Adressaten bestimmt.
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Luke Scholey [mailto:lukescholey@...]
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 21. April 2016 09:37
An: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Betreff: Re: AW: [nvda] remote desktop

What is the best way of installing nvda on a vps in the first place?
Thanks
Luke

On 21 Apr 2016, at 06:14, Eigeldinger Simon <simon.eigeldinger@...> wrote:

Hi,

I am now working in the IT department of our town.
We started rolling out NVDA on many computers.
With the NVDA Remote add-on it seems to work pretty well.
There are some bugs with the UAC and other secure desktop screens but if you are logged in as a admin and you can get around those screens it works pretty well.
Though those bugs should be addressed.
Need to write some tickets when i have access to github.
Here i don't have access at the moment.

Greetings,
simon



Mit freundlichen Grüßen

Simon Eigeldinger
Sekretariat Nebengebäude 2
Nebengebäude 2, OG1
-------------------------
Stadt Hohenems
Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Straße 4
6845 Hohenems
Österreich
Tel.: +43 (0)5576/7101-1211
Fax: +43 (0)5576/7101-1119
E-Mail: simon.eigeldinger@...
Web: www.hohenems.at

Diese Nachricht und allfällige angehängte Dokumente sind vertraulich und nur für den/die Adressaten bestimmt.

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Luke Scholey [mailto:lukescholey@...]
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 20. April 2016 19:51
An: nvda@groups.io
Betreff: [nvda] remote desktop

Hi all,
I am thinking of getting a VPS or possibly even a dedicated server for
my small business. one of the main ways of connecting to virtual servers
is through remote desktop connection if the server is windows.
My question is, does Microsoft's remote desktop connection work with
NVDA and how well? I want to be able to basically navigate the server as
if I were sat in front of it like normal, is this possible?
Thanks,
Luke





Re: nvda-kor.org warning problem message

 

well go to the about page and see what your firefox version is.
45.0.2 was released according to mozilla on the 11th of april.
Ofcause if you have update services on for mozilla programs you will not ever see any patches, as they are autoloaded in the background, sometimes you will have to restart or get a message that things are updating, but in most cases it just does unless it doesn't in which case it will tell you it needs to download a fresh coppy which it will then do and install.
There have been fake updates out there ofcause.
None for this year.
The last patch was 11 april.
It may therefore be that it will be safe to upgrade the patch.
If you go to help abbout there will be an update button, or a restart button, and such.
Even if you don't and close firefox it will update itself unless you don't have a right version.
going to firefox.com will either congradulate you that you are updated or say you need one.
Ofcause there are a few fake malware sites and addons for firefox but the last reported on google search first page was sometime in 2014.
Its most likely the true deal.
One issue with firefox and all mozilla programs I have found is that it does not always report the site right it may in fact support the site you are on as a parent site rather than the child site you are going to.
Especially if its a direct download.
Say I am brousing microsoft support but get a direct download from dropbox or another update or something.
In the download library it will say it came from microsoft which it didn't.
If that site has a web page associated with a file it will report right.

On 21/04/2016 2:08 p.m., Scott VanDeWalle wrote:
Hello.
I was just sitting on the site tonight reading the teamtalk instructions
and about the events.

Suddenly i got a message that i needed to install a firefox patch, it
was from a site that i did not recognize, so i stopped it, thanksfully.
But i was told my volnerability was 93%.
I just thought I should ask, was i smart in not letting that go through,
or is there really a patch for firefox.
Thank you

Scott


.

Re: AW: remote desktop

luke scholey <lukescholey@...>
 

What is the best way of installing nvda on a vps in the first place?
Thanks
Luke

On 21 Apr 2016, at 06:14, Eigeldinger Simon <simon.eigeldinger@...> wrote:

Hi,

I am now working in the IT department of our town.
We started rolling out NVDA on many computers.
With the NVDA Remote add-on it seems to work pretty well.
There are some bugs with the UAC and other secure desktop screens but if you are logged in as a admin and you can get around those screens it works pretty well.
Though those bugs should be addressed.
Need to write some tickets when i have access to github.
Here i don't have access at the moment.

Greetings,
simon



Mit freundlichen Grüßen

Simon Eigeldinger
Sekretariat Nebengebäude 2
Nebengebäude 2, OG1
-------------------------
Stadt Hohenems
Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Straße 4
6845 Hohenems
Österreich
Tel.: +43 (0)5576/7101-1211
Fax: +43 (0)5576/7101-1119
E-Mail: simon.eigeldinger@...
Web: www.hohenems.at

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-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Luke Scholey [mailto:lukescholey@...]
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 20. April 2016 19:51
An: nvda@groups.io
Betreff: [nvda] remote desktop

Hi all,
I am thinking of getting a VPS or possibly even a dedicated server for
my small business. one of the main ways of connecting to virtual servers
is through remote desktop connection if the server is windows.
My question is, does Microsoft's remote desktop connection work with
NVDA and how well? I want to be able to basically navigate the server as
if I were sat in front of it like normal, is this possible?
Thanks,
Luke





Re: Problems with a website for the uk

 

Hello Brian
I have just signed up for it and so far it is o.k as far as accessibility goes.
What part of the website are you having trouble with?

I am running Win 7 pro 64 bit with NVDA on the Latest stable Firefox.


John from Woodside Apps.
Accessible Apps and games for mobile devices.
Android - Talking Stones FREE version is at
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=woodsideapps.stones.free
IOS Wallpaper Creation Station is at
https://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/wallpaper-creation-station/id1089097834?mt=8
Also for great accessible games go to
http://www.22point.com.au

On 20/04/2016 20:51, Brian's Mail list account wrote:

If anyone out there is on Streetlife, then have you managed to actually
write or reply to any messages? When i go in with firefox and nvda. i do
not seem to find the edit areas or any way to enter text. There are some
letters like i etc, but unless somebody can explain what I'm supposed to
do it looks very hard if not impossible to use for us, which would be a
shame.
brian

bglists@...
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.

AW: espeak

Eigeldinger Simon
 

Hi,

You can do that.
Just go to the nvda menu, go to settings, general settings and then hit the button for use settings in login screens and other admin dialogs.
Though its called a little bit differently i guess.


Mit freundlichen Grüßen

Simon Eigeldinger
Sekretariat Nebengebäude 2
Nebengebäude 2, OG1
-------------------------
Stadt Hohenems
Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Straße 4
6845 Hohenems
Österreich
Tel.: +43 (0)5576/7101-1211
Fax: +43 (0)5576/7101-1119
E-Mail: simon.eigeldinger@...
Web: www.hohenems.at

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-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: HBotma [mailto:ehlbotma@...]
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 21. April 2016 08:45
An: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Betreff: Re: [nvda] espeak

Hello

I usually use ESpeak to read Afrikaans. The Dennis voice is slightly
easier to listen to most of the time. I used Female 3 and Female 5 at
a time, but they tend to give me a migraine.

It would just be nice if your ESpeak voice preference could be
reflected in all the configurations. What I mean is, when you set a
voice, it is only set for your main computer use, but the moment you
are on the log on screen or user account control etc. ESpeak
automatically speaks in its default voice. This is just a point of
interest.

Regards

Heaven from South Africa

On 4/21/16, Robert Mendoza <lowvisiontek@...> wrote:
Espeak per say is a very light-weight and responsive synthesis that I
could have into my machine. Gladly , it caters a wide variety of
languages and typically I used the user defined voice that could able or
to allow my mothers tongue - Tagalog into user defined boice. Anyway, I
use dennis and subsequently use max as well. I do hope this could allow
to further enhance and improve in the up coming release of nvda.

Robert Mendoza

On 4/21/2016 6:57 AM, Arlene wrote:
I'll third that. don’t get rid of E Speak. It's very responsive.

-----Original Message-----
From: Rosemarie Chavarria [mailto:knitqueen2007@...]
Sent: April-20-16 8:55 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] espeak

I second that. Don't get rid of e-speak. It's fast and responsive.



-----Original Message-----
From: Josh Kennedy [mailto:joshknnd1982@...]
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2016 6:30 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] espeak

no don't get rid of espeak! keep espeak but 1. improve edward and 2.
make edward the default voice and 3. let the edward ;voice be tweaked to
make more klatt variants and 4. let edward voice have all pronunciation
abilities of non-klatt espeak.

--
sent from Mozilla Thunderbird email client













Re: NVDA & Mathematical Notation

Patrick Le Baudour
 

Hello,
I don't know much, too recent in blindness, but since nobody else replied yet, here is what i know:
apart from unicode symbols added (not much use for complex formulas, but sometimes handy), there is the possibility to use MathPlayer directly once it is installed. It allows to read MathML content. It can be downloaded at http://www.dessci.com/en/products/mathplayer/ .

It is a far from perfect solution, there are other things around, but nothing is complete and, as far as I know, there is no free tool to read pdf mathematical content (and that would be like the holy grail as most math ressources are in pdf) .
You probably can have many more and more accurate informations on the blind math mailing list: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindmath_nfbnet.org

-- Patrick

Le 20/04/2016 02:06, Brian Vogel a écrit :
Hello All,

My most recent client is a student who is going to be taking a
number of statistics classes with a lot of material containing complex
mathematical formulae. I have repeatedly heard that NVDA is by far the
best screen reader when it comes to reading mathematical notation
correctly. That being said, I do not know either:

* how one goes about making NVDA do this
* what formatting is required in the electronic text, whether online
or in PDF files (or whatever), that is necessary for NVDA to work
with them

any guidance that's specific to NVDA, or even broader information
regarding dealing with mathematical notation assistive technology, would
be much appreciated. Any non-NVDA info can be taken off list, if that's
required, but this is such a peculiar niche that pulling in as much
information as possible would be good for future readers of the forum.

I have to believe that, no matter how good any of the screen readers or
the like have gotten, that there will be occasions where a real, live
human reader is going to be necessary to deal with certain texts,
particularly those only available "on paper." I've yet to find
anything, e.g. OpenBook or the like, that can "snap" math texts and
create anything functional from anything other than the bits of regular
text between the math. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Brian

Re: espeak

Heaven Botma <ehlbotma@...>
 

Hello

I usually use ESpeak to read Afrikaans. The Dennis voice is slightly
easier to listen to most of the time. I used Female 3 and Female 5 at
a time, but they tend to give me a migraine.

It would just be nice if your ESpeak voice preference could be
reflected in all the configurations. What I mean is, when you set a
voice, it is only set for your main computer use, but the moment you
are on the log on screen or user account control etc. ESpeak
automatically speaks in its default voice. This is just a point of
interest.

Regards

Heaven from South Africa

On 4/21/16, Robert Mendoza <lowvisiontek@...> wrote:
Espeak per say is a very light-weight and responsive synthesis that I
could have into my machine. Gladly , it caters a wide variety of
languages and typically I used the user defined voice that could able or
to allow my mothers tongue - Tagalog into user defined boice. Anyway, I
use dennis and subsequently use max as well. I do hope this could allow
to further enhance and improve in the up coming release of nvda.

Robert Mendoza

On 4/21/2016 6:57 AM, Arlene wrote:
I'll third that. don’t get rid of E Speak. It's very responsive.

-----Original Message-----
From: Rosemarie Chavarria [mailto:knitqueen2007@...]
Sent: April-20-16 8:55 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] espeak

I second that. Don't get rid of e-speak. It's fast and responsive.



-----Original Message-----
From: Josh Kennedy [mailto:joshknnd1982@...]
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2016 6:30 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] espeak

no don't get rid of espeak! keep espeak but 1. improve edward and 2.
make edward the default voice and 3. let the edward ;voice be tweaked to
make more klatt variants and 4. let edward voice have all pronunciation
abilities of non-klatt espeak.

--
sent from Mozilla Thunderbird email client













Re: Duplicate topics?

Heaven Botma <ehlbotma@...>
 

Hello

It is rather unnecessary to create a new thread for the same topic in
most e-mail clients anyway, because there is usually a reply link or
some way to reply.

Thank you.

Regards

Heaven from South Africa

On 4/21/16, Supanut Leepaisomboon <@supanut2000> wrote:
NVDA Conference is totally online; you just need Teamtalk 5 to participate.
The only problem one might encounter is the timing of the conference due to
time zone differences.