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just a comment

marvin kotler
 

        First, Marv here.  I am just glad that nvda screen reader and its synthesizer are free.  At least the synthesizer works.  Running windows 10 and latest nvda; cheers.
 

NVDACon 2016/Tenth Anniversary Edition, Thursday, 21 April 2016 #cal-reminder

Nvda Calendar <noreply@...>
 

Reminder:
NVDACon 2016/Tenth Anniversary Edition

When:
Thursday, 21 April 2016

Where:
NVDA Korea TeamTalk Server

Description:

You are cordially invited to attend NVDA Users and Developers Conference (NVDACon) 2016/Tenth Anniversary Edition. This is a great opportunity to celebrate NVDA's tenth anniversary, reflect upon NVDA's accomplishments, and look forward to the future of this free, open-source, community-driven screen reader. Learn more about NVDA's history and vision from lead developers, find out how companies such as Mozilla have assisted NVDA development, get a chance to talk to authors of your favorite add-ons and more.

For more information on NVDACon, visit www.nvda-kr.org/en/nvdacon.php. We the conference organizers, NV Access and the NVDA community look forward to meeting you at NVDACon 2016.

Sincerely, NVDA Tenth Anniversary Planning Committee

Re: nvda-kor.org warning problem message

Patrick Le Baudour
 

Hi,

I think you were totally right, That does sound very fishy.
- If an update is needed, it should be by firefox itself or the add-ons update system, not from a third-party wevsite. Even if it did exist.
- "your vulnerability is 93%" sounds alarmist and doesn't mean anything. As a general rule, even if it had more meaningful information, websites can't estimate that kind of things anyway since they are kept from accessing most of your computer.


-- Patrick

Le 21/04/2016 04:08, Scott VanDeWalle a écrit :
Hello.
I was just sitting on the site tonight reading the teamtalk instructions
and about the events.

Suddenly i got a message that i needed to install a firefox patch, it
was from a site that i did not recognize, so i stopped it, thanksfully.
But i was told my volnerability was 93%.
I just thought I should ask, was i smart in not letting that go through,
or is there really a patch for firefox.
Thank you

Scott

Re: Duplicate topics?

 

NVDA Conference is totally online; you just need Teamtalk 5 to participate. The only problem one might encounter is the timing of the conference due to time zone differences.

Re: Duplicate topics?

Christo Vorster
 

It is true that much of the conversations might seem "off topic" to some people and that such things could have been discussed at the NVDA conference, but that is provided that one could attend the conference. Living in South Africa, and I am very sure that many of the users of NVDA living in other countries have the same problems, simply are not able to do that.

My question is thus: where else are we to discuss the matters that are problems to us?

I'm sorry if I sound stupid or uninformed, but I would like to know.

Christo from South Africa

-----Original Message-----
From: Bhavya shah [mailto:bhavya.shah125@...]
Sent: Wednesday, 20 April 2016 6:09 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Duplicate topics?

Hi Nutt,
I believe that those receiving mails in digest mode have to compulsorily create a new thread while replying. However, this issue too can be worked around if one is replying via the reasonably usable interface of mailing and replying on groups.io itself.
I heartily agree that posting methodologies and ways employed by many members on the NVDA Users International forum must be enhanced for optimal smoothness and ease in communication and discussion.
I would also like to sincerely request that we temporarily cease such subjective discussion about a topic as speech synthesizers and related comparisons. Although text to speech engines to form an integral component of a screen reader, this topic has generated more off-topic contraversial mails than it is worth, and I appeal to all to pause these discussions temporarily, and allow for the fullest blooming, participation and cooperate to attain a successful NVDA conference, which is useful for not only users, but I would like to believe also developers, and all others interested in NVDA in between.
Sincerely hoping to meet many of you in NVDACon International 2016 Users and Developers Conference 10th Anniversary edition!
Thanks.

On 4/20/16, Supanut Leepaisomboon <@supanut2000> wrote:
Hi all,

For the past few days I started to notice that there are multiple
threads with exactly the same or very similar subject line. For
example, I see multiple threads with the subject 'espeak' as the subject line.

I wonder...why do people have to create multiple threads with exactly
the same subject line? For instance, there should be only a single
thread with the 'Espeak' subject line, and all discussion about Espeak
should be in that thread.

--
Warm Regards
Bhavya Shah
Using NVDA (Non Visual Desktop Access) free and open source screen reader for Microsoft Windows To download a copy of the free screen reader NVDA, please visit http://www.nvaccess.org/ Using Google Talkback on Motorolla G second generation Lollipop 5.0.2 Reach me through the following means:
Mobile: +91 7506221750
E-mail id: bhavya.shah125@...
Skype id : bhavya.09

Re: NVDA AND APPLE

Christo Vorster
 

Hi Brian

 

Thanks. That helps a lot

 

Regards

 

Christo

 

From: Brian Vogel [mailto:britechguy@...]
Sent: Wednesday, 20 April 2016 4:27 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA AND APPLE

 

Christo,

          That depends on how, exactly, you define "would function with an Apple Macintosh."  I do not know of a version of NVDA that is designed to run under OS X proper (much like JAWS, ZoomText [if you want the Reader-Magnifier version], and Window Eyes).  However, if one installs a virtual Windows environment on a Mac you can run Windows-based software on the machine and be able to "flip-flop" easily between the virtual Windows environment and native OS X environment via Mission Control.

          Wine is one of the most commonly used virtual Windows environments, there are many others, and there's even WineBottler which allows you to tuck Windows applications into the OS X environment.

Brian

AW: mail server with nvda?

Eigeldinger Simon
 

Maybe Mercury will do the trick:
http://www.pmail.com/
I tried it many years ago with jaws.

Greetings,
simon

Mit freundlichen Grüßen

Simon Eigeldinger
Sekretariat Nebengebäude 2
Nebengebäude 2, OG1
-------------------------
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6845 Hohenems
Österreich
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-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona [mailto:hank.smith966@...]
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 21. April 2016 05:47
An: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Betreff: [nvda] mail server with nvda?

vHello any one recommend a email server that will work good with nvda?
want to set up my own email server, and was wondering what folks
recommended.
thanks
Hank

AW: nvda and windows 98 virtual machine?

Eigeldinger Simon
 

Ah for nasty purposes? *smile*
Sorry, NVDA needs at least Win XP to run.
I once tried it on a Win 2000 VM and it didn't run.


Mit freundlichen Grüßen

Simon Eigeldinger
Sekretariat Nebengebäude 2
Nebengebäude 2, OG1
-------------------------
Stadt Hohenems
Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Straße 4
6845 Hohenems
Österreich
Tel.: +43 (0)5576/7101-1211
Fax: +43 (0)5576/7101-1119
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Diese Nachricht und allfällige angehängte Dokumente sind vertraulich und nur für den/die Adressaten bestimmt.

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona [mailto:hank.smith966@...]
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 21. April 2016 03:24
An: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Betreff: [nvda] nvda and windows 98 virtual machine?

Hello I know this is a long shot but figured I would ask here
does nvda work with windows 98? if so what version? I am playing around
with a win98 vm and was curious if I could get nvda to run on the os
I would be using this for nastelgia purposes
thanks
Hank

AW: Is there seriously a possibility of "DOING AWAY WITH ESPEAK"? DOING AWAY WITH ESPEAK

Eigeldinger Simon
 

Hi,

Agreed on this.
Same here with german.
It is still bumpy when you listen to a recorded synth than something that a computer can generate on the fly.
And the supporrt of over 50 languages is also not bad.


Mit freundlichen Grüßen

Simon Eigeldinger
Sekretariat Nebengebäude 2
Nebengebäude 2, OG1
-------------------------
Stadt Hohenems
Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Straße 4
6845 Hohenems
Österreich
Tel.: +43 (0)5576/7101-1211
Fax: +43 (0)5576/7101-1119
E-Mail: simon.eigeldinger@...
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-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Mallard [mailto:mallard@...]
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 20. April 2016 22:41
An: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Betreff: Re: Is there seriously a possibility of "DOING AWAY WITH ESPEAK"? [nvda] DOING AWAY WITH ESPEAK

Doing away with Espeak, and then what?

Compelling people to buy commercial voices?


I think espeak is still the best non-human synth freely available.

I have Vocalizer Expressive, but I only use the Russian and Hebrew voices.

the Italian voices are awful to say the least. Not the sound, but the
intonation. They all sound foreign, get lots of accents wrong, and after
a while I just can't stand them anymore.


If there's a viable, free, open source alternative, then ok. If not,
long live Espeak!

Ciao,

Ollie

Il 20/04/2016 22:29, Shaun Everiss ha scritto:
Well I got used to it.
There was a servey once maybe there needs to be another.
At any rate espeak as it is is fine, maybe it could be improved some
if at all possible.



On 21/04/2016 7:47 a.m., Laurie Mehta via Groups.io wrote:
I am confused...
I began noticing several e-mails defending E Speak and am wondering
what brought the issue up in the first place?

Many great reasons have already been given in favor of E Speak and I
agree with all of them. I hope that there is not actually any
consideration being given of dropping E Speak from NVDA. (smile)
-LM

--------------------------------------------
On Wed, 4/20/16, Christo de Klerk <christodeklerk@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [nvda] DOING AWAY WITH ESPEAK
To: nvda@groups.io
Date: Wednesday, April 20, 2016, 8:29 AM

Hello from another South
African

eSpeak has some
features not found in other synthesisers which, in my
view, make it an essential synthesiser to have
around. It is the only
one I know which can
pronounce the International Phonetic Alphabet and
the Greek alphabet when using an English voice,
which is extremely
important for anyone
interested in linguistics. It reads diacritic
characters correctly which expensive
synthesisers like Ivona cannot even
do.
Apart from these linguistic features, eSpeak must be just
about the
most responsive synthesiser. It
also probably is the most accurate in
its
pronunciation of any synthesiser I know; in other words, it

mispronounces fewer words than other
synthesisers do. I think the author
of
eSpeak, Jonathan Duddington, did a truly wonderful job with
eSpeak.

Another point: if
you don't particularly care for the default voices
used by eSpeak, you can install and use the
MBrola voices which are also
supported by
eSpeak and which can pronounce everything eSpeak does.
These voices have a very natural sound. I use
the UK English voice.
Installing MBrola is
admittedly a mission, but once installed they
definitely are worth the trouble.

Kind regards

Other Christo (by the way, it
is not true that half the men in South
Africa are called Christo).





On 2016/04/20 1:15 PM, Jacob
Kruger wrote:
> Christo,
>
> Am also based in SA,
and, yes, eSpeak is my choice when using NVDA,
> partly due to it handling multiple
languages, but, also, since while
>
it's not particularly natural sounding, it is definitely
very
> clear-sounding, makes it easy to
be pretty sure what you're hearing it
> say, etc. - which is also pretty important
when working as a
> programmer/software
developer.
>
> In
other words, while understand why some people might prefer
somewhat
> natural sounding voices,
they're definitely not of too much interest
> to some of us, all the
time...<smile>
>
> Stay well
>
> Jacob Kruger
> Blind
Biker
> Skype: BlindZA
> "Roger Wilco wants to welcome
you...to the space janitor's closet..."
>
> On 2016-04-20 10:53
AM, Christo Vorster wrote:
>> Hi
list
>>
>> I do
not necessarily agree with the idea to do away with ESpeak.
I
>> believe that is a case of
"horses for causes."
>>
>> In South Africa, more specifically, at
the Institute for the Blind in
>>
Worcester where I am a lecturer, we extensively use ESpeak
to read
>> Afrikaans. And may I say,
the quality of ESpeak's Afrikaans is actually
>> very good.
>>
>> I won't mind if the developers do
away with ESpeak, but before that
>>
happens I want definite proof that the replacement program
has, at
>> least, the same quality,
preferably, better.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Christo
>>
>>
>
>
>








.


Re: ESpeak

Christo Vorster
 

Hi Angela and List

I understand exactly what you say. In Afrikaans I have the same problem. It is true that many of the Afrikaans speaking people pronounce their "r" like the French, but it is not the norm.

I echo your sentiments concerning the request for someone, with much more knowledge than I on this matter, to try and make a plan.

I have a further problem with ESpeak in Afrikaans. When I use certain voices it sounds like someone speaking with loose false teeth, at the point of losing them. Maybe the developers can try to solve that problem while they work on the "r".

Regards

Christo from South Africa

-----Original Message-----
From: Angela Delicata via Groups.io [mailto:angeladelicata=libero.it@groups.io]
Sent: Wednesday, 20 April 2016 4:03 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] ESpeak

What I really do not like about espeak is the sound of r in my
language: the letter is spoken very different in Italian.
It is not like the French r.

Please, if you could try to solve this.
Hope I was clear as I don't know how to better explain that.
Thank you.
Angela from Italy

Il 20/04/2016 15:26, Josh Kennedy ha scritto:
I would love the speech player edward voice to support all of espeak's
phonemes and languages as well as the default voice. I like klatt
voices. but my issue with klatt edward is that it does not have all
the phonemes of original espeak. please fix this because i really like
the edward voice and wish i could just use it in any espeak-supported language!
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AW: remote desktop

Eigeldinger Simon
 

Hi,

I am now working in the IT department of our town.
We started rolling out NVDA on many computers.
With the NVDA Remote add-on it seems to work pretty well.
There are some bugs with the UAC and other secure desktop screens but if you are logged in as a admin and you can get around those screens it works pretty well.
Though those bugs should be addressed.
Need to write some tickets when i have access to github.
Here i don't have access at the moment.

Greetings,
simon



Mit freundlichen Grüßen

Simon Eigeldinger
Sekretariat Nebengebäude 2
Nebengebäude 2, OG1
-------------------------
Stadt Hohenems
Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Straße 4
6845 Hohenems
Österreich
Tel.: +43 (0)5576/7101-1211
Fax: +43 (0)5576/7101-1119
E-Mail: simon.eigeldinger@...
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-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Luke Scholey [mailto:lukescholey@...]
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 20. April 2016 19:51
An: nvda@groups.io
Betreff: [nvda] remote desktop

Hi all,
I am thinking of getting a VPS or possibly even a dedicated server for
my small business. one of the main ways of connecting to virtual servers
is through remote desktop connection if the server is windows.
My question is, does Microsoft's remote desktop connection work with
NVDA and how well? I want to be able to basically navigate the server as
if I were sat in front of it like normal, is this possible?
Thanks,
Luke

AW: Is there seriously a possibility of "DOING AWAY WITH ESPEAK"? DOING AWAY WITH ESPEAK

Eigeldinger Simon
 

Hi,

I belive not that they will remove espeak.
They have changed to espeak-ng which ist he successor of espeak.

Greetings,
simon


Mit freundlichen Grüßen

Simon Eigeldinger
Sekretariat Nebengebäude 2
Nebengebäude 2, OG1
-------------------------
Stadt Hohenems
Kaiser-Franz-Josef-Straße 4
6845 Hohenems
Österreich
Tel.: +43 (0)5576/7101-1211
Fax: +43 (0)5576/7101-1119
E-Mail: simon.eigeldinger@...
Web: www.hohenems.at

Diese Nachricht und allfällige angehängte Dokumente sind vertraulich und nur für den/die Adressaten bestimmt.
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Laurie Mehta via Groups.io [mailto:lauriemehta=yahoo.com@groups.io]
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 20. April 2016 21:48
An: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Betreff: Re: Is there seriously a possibility of "DOING AWAY WITH ESPEAK"? [nvda] DOING AWAY WITH ESPEAK

I am confused...
I began noticing several e-mails defending E Speak and am wondering what brought the issue up in the first place?

Many great reasons have already been given in favor of E Speak and I agree with all of them. I hope that there is not actually any consideration being given of dropping E Speak from NVDA. (smile)
-LM

--------------------------------------------

On Wed, 4/20/16, Christo de Klerk <christodeklerk@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [nvda] DOING AWAY WITH ESPEAK
To: nvda@groups.io
Date: Wednesday, April 20, 2016, 8:29 AM

Hello from another South
African

eSpeak has some
features not found in other synthesisers which, in my
view, make it an essential synthesiser to have
around. It is the only
one I know which can
pronounce the International Phonetic Alphabet and
the Greek alphabet when using an English voice,
which is extremely
important for anyone
interested in linguistics. It reads diacritic
characters correctly which expensive
synthesisers like Ivona cannot even
do.
Apart from these linguistic features, eSpeak must be just
about the
most responsive synthesiser. It
also probably is the most accurate in
its
pronunciation of any synthesiser I know; in other words, it

mispronounces fewer words than other
synthesisers do. I think the author
of
eSpeak, Jonathan Duddington, did a truly wonderful job with
eSpeak.

Another point: if
you don't particularly care for the default voices
used by eSpeak, you can install and use the
MBrola voices which are also
supported by
eSpeak and which can pronounce everything eSpeak does.
These voices have a very natural sound. I use
the UK English voice.
Installing MBrola is
admittedly a mission, but once installed they
definitely are worth the trouble.

Kind regards

Other Christo (by the way, it
is not true that half the men in South
Africa are called Christo).





On 2016/04/20 1:15 PM, Jacob
Kruger wrote:
> Christo,
>
> Am also based in SA,
and, yes, eSpeak is my choice when using NVDA,
> partly due to it handling multiple
languages, but, also, since while
>
it's not particularly natural sounding, it is definitely
very
> clear-sounding, makes it easy to
be pretty sure what you're hearing it
> say, etc. - which is also pretty important
when working as a
> programmer/software
developer.
>
> In
other words, while understand why some people might prefer
somewhat
> natural sounding voices,
they're definitely not of too much interest
> to some of us, all the
time...<smile>
>
> Stay well
>
> Jacob Kruger
> Blind
Biker
> Skype: BlindZA
> "Roger Wilco wants to welcome
you...to the space janitor's closet..."
>
> On 2016-04-20 10:53
AM, Christo Vorster wrote:
>> Hi
list
>>
>> I do
not necessarily agree with the idea to do away with ESpeak.
I
>> believe that is a case of
"horses for causes."
>>
>> In South Africa, more specifically, at
the Institute for the Blind in
>>
Worcester where I am a lecturer, we extensively use ESpeak
to read
>> Afrikaans. And may I say,
the quality of ESpeak's Afrikaans is actually
>> very good.
>>
>> I won't mind if the developers do
away with ESpeak, but before that
>>
happens I want definite proof that the replacement program
has, at
>> least, the same quality,
preferably, better.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Christo
>>
>>
>
>
>

Re: nvda and windows 98 virtual machine?

Arlene
 

Hi, I didn’t think it did!

-----Original Message-----
From: Rosemarie Chavarria [mailto:knitqueen2007@...]
Sent: April-20-16 9:41 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda and windows 98 virtual machine?

NVDA doesn't work with windows 98.



-----Original Message-----
From: Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona [mailto:hank.smith966@...]
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2016 6:24 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] nvda and windows 98 virtual machine?

Hello I know this is a long shot but figured I would ask here does nvda work with windows 98? if so what version? I am playing around with a win98 vm and was curious if I could get nvda to run on the os I would be using this for nastelgia purposes thanks Hank

Re: nvda and windows 98 virtual machine?

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

NVDA doesn't work with windows 98.

-----Original Message-----
From: Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona [mailto:hank.smith966@...]
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2016 6:24 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] nvda and windows 98 virtual machine?

Hello I know this is a long shot but figured I would ask here does nvda work with windows 98? if so what version? I am playing around with a win98 vm and was curious if I could get nvda to run on the os I would be using this for nastelgia purposes thanks Hank

mail server with nvda?

 

vHello any one recommend a email server that will work good with nvda?
want to set up my own email server, and was wondering what folks recommended.
thanks
Hank

Re: nvda and windows 98 virtual machine?

 

Hello will give that a try.
I found a hole bunch of old cds
with windows 98 software on them that I held on to so was wanting to give them a play with under a virtual machine
thanks
Hank

On 4/20/2016 7:41 PM, Lino Morales wrote:
You can have loads of fun if you ran say JAWS 3.7 under that VM. Have fun kid.


On 4/20/2016 10:40 PM, Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona wrote:
I figured it didn't run under
windows 98 but figured I would ask none the less

On 4/20/2016 7:37 PM, Lino Morales wrote:
Hank you insane. The answer is no.


On 4/20/2016 9:24 PM, Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona wrote:
Hello I know this is a long shot but figured I would ask here
does nvda work with windows 98? if so what version? I am playing around with a win98 vm and was curious if I could get nvda to run on the os
I would be using this for nastelgia purposes
thanks
Hank








Re: nvda and windows 98 virtual machine?

Lino Morales
 

You can have loads of fun if you ran say JAWS 3.7 under that VM. Have fun kid.

On 4/20/2016 10:40 PM, Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona wrote:
I figured it didn't run under
windows 98 but figured I would ask none the less

On 4/20/2016 7:37 PM, Lino Morales wrote:
Hank you insane. The answer is no.


On 4/20/2016 9:24 PM, Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona wrote:
Hello I know this is a long shot but figured I would ask here
does nvda work with windows 98? if so what version? I am playing around with a win98 vm and was curious if I could get nvda to run on the os
I would be using this for nastelgia purposes
thanks
Hank






Re: nvda and windows 98 virtual machine?

 

I figured it didn't run under
windows 98 but figured I would ask none the less

On 4/20/2016 7:37 PM, Lino Morales wrote:
Hank you insane. The answer is no.


On 4/20/2016 9:24 PM, Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona wrote:
Hello I know this is a long shot but figured I would ask here
does nvda work with windows 98? if so what version? I am playing around with a win98 vm and was curious if I could get nvda to run on the os
I would be using this for nastelgia purposes
thanks
Hank




Re: nvda and windows 98 virtual machine?

Lino Morales
 

Hank you insane. The answer is no.

On 4/20/2016 9:24 PM, Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona wrote:
Hello I know this is a long shot but figured I would ask here
does nvda work with windows 98? if so what version? I am playing around with a win98 vm and was curious if I could get nvda to run on the os
I would be using this for nastelgia purposes
thanks
Hank


Re: nvda con in pasific time zone?

Scott VanDeWalle
 

Hello, well, since I believe that eastern time which is my local time is 4 hours behind utc, your time would be 7 hours behind.
I looked it up online earlier.
hth

Scott

On 4/20/2016 10:10 PM, Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona wrote:
Hello can I please if possible get the times of the nvda con sessions in pasific time zone?
thanks
Hank