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Re: Rounding words in Microsoft Word.

 

The link below is a keyboard tutorial on automatically rounding words and inserting automatic word counts in your document using a screen reader and the keyboard.

https://blindjournalist.wordpress.com/2020/01/08/automatically-count-words-in-microsoft-word-using-a-screen-reader/


Re: Rounding words in Microsoft Word.

Jonathan COHN
 

Excuse me, but I can’t determine the relevance of the link from the short amount of text included in this message. Can you let us know the general concept being discussed in this article or channel? I’ll be glad to click on through if it is relevant.

Thanks!

Jonathan

 


Re: Accessible password managers, again.

Bhavya shah
 

Dear all,

I just installed Key Pass. More than Key Pass being an unfamiliar
software, password managers as a class of software are not very known
to me so I apologize in case upcoming questions are rudimentary.
So far, in Key Pass, I went into one of the groups, added an entry
(title, username, password and other things). Now, the URL of this web
address is such that you have an e-mail address field (and not
username) on one page, then one needs ot press the Next button, and
then the password needs to be inputted. I was hoping for a system
wherein I could auto-fill and save effort using the password manager.
When I click the closest sounding Perform Autotype- option in the
context menu corresponding to this entry with the login webpage
already open in a browser though, things don't seem to work. I hear a
bunch of sounds and then the Terms of Service of this website open
rather than my account on it. Thoughts?

Thanks.

On 1/24/20, junior <tadeu.junior.tecladista@...> wrote:
Can I import autofill from google into this app?
----- Original Message -----
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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2020 2:33 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible password managers, again.


Thanks for this recommendation.


My husband and son recommended this to me too, but they're sighted, so I
was going to check it out for accessibility.


You've saved me one step...


thanksagain.

Ciao,

Ollie




On 16/01/2020 01:51, DJ wrote:
KeePass makes it extremely easy to synchronize your database between
devices. In fact, if I update the database on my local computer, it is
automatically updated on my iPhone and iPad. Likewise if I update on the
iPhone or iPad, it is also updated on my computer. It is free and very
secure.

On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 5:13 PM Nimer Jaber <nimerjaber1@...
<mailto:nimerjaber1@...>> wrote:

Hello,

While it's true that 1password has cloud options, and keypass is
local, 1password makes password syncing between devices much
easier. Moreover, 1password is secured with a key and now also
with 2FA, thus making the likelihood that my password gets
compromised that much more unlikely. In fact, I trust 1password
with its layers of security over just about any other cloud
provider which I might choose to use to store my database and have
it synced. And yes, I could choose to just keep it offline, but
that just isn't convenient. :-D

Tyler's right though, everyone should make those considerations
for themselves about what level of risk they are willing to
tolerate, and how they choose to perceive the risk.

Thanks.

On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 2:06 PM Tyler Wood <tcwood12@...
<mailto:tcwood12@...>> wrote:

Hi,

My go to will always be key pass.

Free, open source, ability to put your database **wherever**
you want, easy to run on any operating system of your choice
and lots of configuration options.

I will never touch 1 password – for one it’s paid – and for 2
having my passwords in the cloud when that cloud could be
breached at any moment much easier than my database on a thumb
drive, and has been before. Why have a password manager at all
in that case?

That is, of course, my opinion, and common sense is still
one’s best friend.

*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
<nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>> *On Behalf
Of *Nimer Jaber
*Sent:* Wednesday, January 15, 2020 3:20 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Accessible password managers, again.

Chrome should work, as should Firefox, but you want a
3rd-party, which is probably smart, give 1password a try.
Also, I played around with bitwarden, and it seemed to work
pretty well also.

Thanks.

On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 1:09 PM Hareth <hareth4m@...
<mailto:hareth4m@...>> wrote:

I was playing with
bitwarden
on windows10, desktop app an chrome and waterfox / firefox
extensions.
I start liking it
,.
Later tonight, going to try the android app and see what's
going on there.
For sure it worth the try.

On 1/15/20, René Linke <rene.linke@...
<mailto:rene.linke@...>> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I recommend to use KeePass Safe, it is completely based
on XML
> structures of import/export files.
> It has many extensions, and it works well with NVDA.
>
> René
>
>
>
>
>



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Re: Password Managers

Bhavya shah
 

Dear all,

Thanks Brian and Nimer! Judging by Nimer's recommendations, I narrowed
down to (a) Key Pass and (b) Bitwarden. I decided to give Key Pass the
first try due to its open source nature. More than Key Pass being an
unfamiliar software, password managers as a class of software are not
very known to me so I apologize in case upcoming questions are
rudimentary.
So far, in Key Pass, I went into one of the groups, added an entry
(title, username, password and other things). Now, the URL of this web
address is such that you have an e-mail address field (and not
username) on one page, then one needs ot press the Next button, and
then the password needs to be inputted. I was hoping for a system
wherein I could auto-fill and save effort using the password manager.
When I click the closest sounding Perform Autotype- option in the
context menu corresponding to this entry with the login webpage
already open in a browser though, things don't seem to work. I hear a
bunch of sounds and then the Terms of Service of this website open
rather than my account on it. Thoughts?

Thanks.

On 3/4/20, Nimer Jaber <nimerjaber1@...> wrote:
Give bitwarden a try. Also, Lastpass has a free version with a few
limitations, but still works well.

thanks.

On Wed, Mar 4, 2020 at 8:27 AM Brian Vogel <@britechguy> wrote:

I would suggest both Searching the NVDA Group Archive
<https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1HexfjlH4pEYnSIMx3-FS1Rztl3JCmWa_>
and Searching the Windows 10 for Screen Reader Users Archive
<https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1dGeilJJBe0vCB8IT94bbVDm4d4-u7wh4>on
the phrase "password manager" or "password managers" along with "free" if
that's critically important, as this topic has been discussed many, many
times on both groups.

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Re: NVDA Installation failed

Sandra Pilz
 

Hi Quentin,


You wrote:

When you originally went to install, did you get the UAC prompt from Windows itself about installing the program?  You get that for any program you install, but sometimes it pops up and doesn't get focus so you aren't alerted to it and even visually it's not obvious.  If you don't answer Yes to the UAC prompt within about 20 seconds, it times out and denies the program from installing.


Yes, I did see it, but the UAC prompt isn't the problem, I always answer Yes using the alt Y or in my case alt+j shortcut (German windows), and the installation continues. I don't wait for 20 seconds for something to happen.


The only other thing I was thinking was if you had controlled folder access set, it will install NVDA but not create the desktop shortcut.  If that was the issue though, it wouldn't have worked any better with NVDA 2019.1 than 2019.3.

No, I don't have controlled folder access set. I checked this when it didn't work, because I knew it could be a problem. No, it's not active.


I do think there is a problem with the installation of 2019.3 though, because a lady on the German NVDA list reported the same problem. She's a very competent computer user and I'm sure she, too, knows how to deal with UAC. Maybe it doesn't affect systems where English is the default language... And maybe it wasn't reported much, because many people using NVDA 2019.3 will have updated an older version and won't have encountered this issue, because the shortcut and start menu entries had already been created by a previous installation of an older version of NVDA...


I, however, attempted a fresh install on a new machine.


Best


Sandra


Regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 2:43 AM Sandra Pilz <sandra914481@...> wrote:
Hi Felix,


Thanks for your help. Unfortunately setting the NVDA language to English
didn't help. The failed installation not only faild to create the
desktop shortcut, but also didn't create NVDA entries in the start menu.
I installed NVDA 2019.1 first and then updated to 2019.3.1, that did the
trick.


Best


Sandra

Am 04.03.2020 um 13:22 schrieb Felix G.:
> Hello Sandra,
> the installation failed because NVDA was unable to create its desktop
> shortcut, for reasons I cannot begin to guess. I can think of two
> options:
> 1. Install without creating a desktop shortcut, then create one manually.
> 2. Sometimes, switching the NVDA language to English before installing
> fixes this problem. If you feel comfortable doing this, it may be the
> cleaner option.
> Hope this helps,
> Felix
>
> Am Mi., 4. März 2020 um 14:11 Uhr schrieb Sandra Pilz <sandra914481@...>:
>> Hello,
>>
>>
>> I'm trying to install NVDA on a new machine running Windows 10 pro 1909.
>>
>>
>> I'm running  the installation file as administrator. I'm getting the message that installing NVDA has failed.
>>
>>
>> Please also see the log included below.
>>
>>
>> Does anyone know what the problem might be and how to solve it??
>>
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>>
>> Sandra
>>
>>
>> INFO - __main__ (13:56:46.002) - MainThread (10924):
>> Starting NVDA version 2019.3.1
>> INFO - core.main (13:56:46.082) - MainThread (10924):
>> Config dir: C:\Users\sandr\AppData\Roaming\nvda
>> INFO - config.ConfigManager._loadConfig (13:56:46.082) - MainThread (10924):
>> Loading config: C:\Users\sandr\AppData\Roaming\nvda\nvda.ini
>> INFO - core.main (13:56:46.122) - MainThread (10924):
>> Using Windows version 10.0.18363 workstation
>> INFO - core.main (13:56:46.122) - MainThread (10924):
>> Using Python version 3.7.5 (tags/v3.7.5:5c02a39a0b, Oct 14 2019, 23:09:19) [MSC v.1916 32 bit (Intel)]
>> INFO - core.main (13:56:46.122) - MainThread (10924):
>> Using comtypes version 1.1.7
>> INFO - core.main (13:56:46.122) - MainThread (10924):
>> Using configobj version 5.1.0 with validate version 1.0.1
>> INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (13:56:46.402) - MainThread (10924):
>> Loaded synthDriver oneCore
>> INFO - core.main (13:56:46.402) - MainThread (10924):
>> Using wx version 4.0.3 msw (phoenix) wxWidgets 3.0.5 with six version 1.12.0
>> INFO - brailleInput.initialize (13:56:46.407) - MainThread (10924):
>> Braille input initialized
>> INFO - braille.initialize (13:56:46.407) - MainThread (10924):
>> Using liblouis version 3.10.0
>> INFO - braille.initialize (13:56:46.407) - MainThread (10924):
>> Using pySerial version 3.4
>> INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (13:56:46.412) - MainThread (10924):
>> Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells.
>> INFO - brailleDisplayDrivers.handyTech.BrailleDisplayDriver.__init__ (13:56:46.464) - braille._BgThread (11016):
>> Found Easy Braille connected via hid (\\?\hid#vid_1fe4&pid_0044#7&7f9a61d&0&0000#{4d1e55b2-f16f-11cf-88cb-001111000030})
>> INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (13:56:46.472) - braille._BgThread (11016):
>> Loaded braille display driver handyTech, current display has 40 cells.
>> INFO - core.main (13:56:46.582) - MainThread (10924):
>> Java Access Bridge support initialized
>> INFO - _UIAHandler.UIAHandler.MTAThreadFunc (13:56:46.582) - _UIAHandler.UIAHandler.MTAThread (11020):
>> UIAutomation: IUIAutomation6
>> INFO - core.main (13:56:46.762) - MainThread (10924):
>> NVDA initialized
>> ERROR - RPC process 8756 (nvda_slave.exe) (13:57:05.773) - Dummy-1 (10840):
>> __main__.main:
>> slave error
>> Traceback (most recent call last):
>>    File "nvda_slave.pyw", line 47, in main
>>    File "installer.pyc", line 454, in install
>>    File "installer.pyc", line 261, in registerInstallation
>>    File "installer.pyc", line 58, in createShortcut
>>    File "comtypes\client\lazybind.pyc", line 218, in __setattr__
>>    File "comtypes\automation.pyc", line 729, in _invoke
>> _ctypes.COMError: (-2147352567, 'Ausnahmefehler aufgetreten.', (None, None, None, 0, None))
>> ERROR - gui.installerGui.doInstall (13:57:05.793) - MainThread (10924):
>> Installation failed: 1
>>
>>
>>
>
>





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Re: NVDA Installation failed

 

Hi.
I would like to add something about the UAC prompt on windows from 7 and up I think.
When the UAC prompt appears, focus is on the no button. By pressing enter or space without tapping around first, people just activate the no button and the installation cannot be completed.

I saw many people just pressing enter all the time during installation without exploring the dialogues first.
Usually the enter activates the next button but not on the UAC prompt.

Also the shortcut alt+Y works on the UAC prompt for activating the yes button.
Nikos

On Thu, 5 Mar 2020 at 07:20, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:
When you originally went to install, did you get the UAC prompt from Windows itself about installing the program?  You get that for any program you install, but sometimes it pops up and doesn't get focus so you aren't alerted to it and even visually it's not obvious.  If you don't answer Yes to the UAC prompt within about 20 seconds, it times out and denies the program from installing.

The only other thing I was thinking was if you had controlled folder access set, it will install NVDA but not create the desktop shortcut.  If that was the issue though, it wouldn't have worked any better with NVDA 2019.1 than 2019.3.

Regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 2:43 AM Sandra Pilz <sandra914481@...> wrote:
Hi Felix,


Thanks for your help. Unfortunately setting the NVDA language to English
didn't help. The failed installation not only faild to create the
desktop shortcut, but also didn't create NVDA entries in the start menu.
I installed NVDA 2019.1 first and then updated to 2019.3.1, that did the
trick.


Best


Sandra

Am 04.03.2020 um 13:22 schrieb Felix G.:
> Hello Sandra,
> the installation failed because NVDA was unable to create its desktop
> shortcut, for reasons I cannot begin to guess. I can think of two
> options:
> 1. Install without creating a desktop shortcut, then create one manually.
> 2. Sometimes, switching the NVDA language to English before installing
> fixes this problem. If you feel comfortable doing this, it may be the
> cleaner option.
> Hope this helps,
> Felix
>
> Am Mi., 4. März 2020 um 14:11 Uhr schrieb Sandra Pilz <sandra914481@...>:
>> Hello,
>>
>>
>> I'm trying to install NVDA on a new machine running Windows 10 pro 1909.
>>
>>
>> I'm running  the installation file as administrator. I'm getting the message that installing NVDA has failed.
>>
>>
>> Please also see the log included below.
>>
>>
>> Does anyone know what the problem might be and how to solve it??
>>
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>>
>> Sandra
>>
>>
>> INFO - __main__ (13:56:46.002) - MainThread (10924):
>> Starting NVDA version 2019.3.1
>> INFO - core.main (13:56:46.082) - MainThread (10924):
>> Config dir: C:\Users\sandr\AppData\Roaming\nvda
>> INFO - config.ConfigManager._loadConfig (13:56:46.082) - MainThread (10924):
>> Loading config: C:\Users\sandr\AppData\Roaming\nvda\nvda.ini
>> INFO - core.main (13:56:46.122) - MainThread (10924):
>> Using Windows version 10.0.18363 workstation
>> INFO - core.main (13:56:46.122) - MainThread (10924):
>> Using Python version 3.7.5 (tags/v3.7.5:5c02a39a0b, Oct 14 2019, 23:09:19) [MSC v.1916 32 bit (Intel)]
>> INFO - core.main (13:56:46.122) - MainThread (10924):
>> Using comtypes version 1.1.7
>> INFO - core.main (13:56:46.122) - MainThread (10924):
>> Using configobj version 5.1.0 with validate version 1.0.1
>> INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (13:56:46.402) - MainThread (10924):
>> Loaded synthDriver oneCore
>> INFO - core.main (13:56:46.402) - MainThread (10924):
>> Using wx version 4.0.3 msw (phoenix) wxWidgets 3.0.5 with six version 1.12.0
>> INFO - brailleInput.initialize (13:56:46.407) - MainThread (10924):
>> Braille input initialized
>> INFO - braille.initialize (13:56:46.407) - MainThread (10924):
>> Using liblouis version 3.10.0
>> INFO - braille.initialize (13:56:46.407) - MainThread (10924):
>> Using pySerial version 3.4
>> INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (13:56:46.412) - MainThread (10924):
>> Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells.
>> INFO - brailleDisplayDrivers.handyTech.BrailleDisplayDriver.__init__ (13:56:46.464) - braille._BgThread (11016):
>> Found Easy Braille connected via hid (\\?\hid#vid_1fe4&pid_0044#7&7f9a61d&0&0000#{4d1e55b2-f16f-11cf-88cb-001111000030})
>> INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (13:56:46.472) - braille._BgThread (11016):
>> Loaded braille display driver handyTech, current display has 40 cells.
>> INFO - core.main (13:56:46.582) - MainThread (10924):
>> Java Access Bridge support initialized
>> INFO - _UIAHandler.UIAHandler.MTAThreadFunc (13:56:46.582) - _UIAHandler.UIAHandler.MTAThread (11020):
>> UIAutomation: IUIAutomation6
>> INFO - core.main (13:56:46.762) - MainThread (10924):
>> NVDA initialized
>> ERROR - RPC process 8756 (nvda_slave.exe) (13:57:05.773) - Dummy-1 (10840):
>> __main__.main:
>> slave error
>> Traceback (most recent call last):
>>    File "nvda_slave.pyw", line 47, in main
>>    File "installer.pyc", line 454, in install
>>    File "installer.pyc", line 261, in registerInstallation
>>    File "installer.pyc", line 58, in createShortcut
>>    File "comtypes\client\lazybind.pyc", line 218, in __setattr__
>>    File "comtypes\automation.pyc", line 729, in _invoke
>> _ctypes.COMError: (-2147352567, 'Ausnahmefehler aufgetreten.', (None, None, None, 0, None))
>> ERROR - gui.installerGui.doInstall (13:57:05.793) - MainThread (10924):
>> Installation failed: 1
>>
>>
>>
>
>





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Re: NVDA Installation failed

Quentin Christensen
 

When you originally went to install, did you get the UAC prompt from Windows itself about installing the program?  You get that for any program you install, but sometimes it pops up and doesn't get focus so you aren't alerted to it and even visually it's not obvious.  If you don't answer Yes to the UAC prompt within about 20 seconds, it times out and denies the program from installing.

The only other thing I was thinking was if you had controlled folder access set, it will install NVDA but not create the desktop shortcut.  If that was the issue though, it wouldn't have worked any better with NVDA 2019.1 than 2019.3.

Regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 2:43 AM Sandra Pilz <sandra914481@...> wrote:
Hi Felix,


Thanks for your help. Unfortunately setting the NVDA language to English
didn't help. The failed installation not only faild to create the
desktop shortcut, but also didn't create NVDA entries in the start menu.
I installed NVDA 2019.1 first and then updated to 2019.3.1, that did the
trick.


Best


Sandra

Am 04.03.2020 um 13:22 schrieb Felix G.:
> Hello Sandra,
> the installation failed because NVDA was unable to create its desktop
> shortcut, for reasons I cannot begin to guess. I can think of two
> options:
> 1. Install without creating a desktop shortcut, then create one manually.
> 2. Sometimes, switching the NVDA language to English before installing
> fixes this problem. If you feel comfortable doing this, it may be the
> cleaner option.
> Hope this helps,
> Felix
>
> Am Mi., 4. März 2020 um 14:11 Uhr schrieb Sandra Pilz <sandra914481@...>:
>> Hello,
>>
>>
>> I'm trying to install NVDA on a new machine running Windows 10 pro 1909.
>>
>>
>> I'm running  the installation file as administrator. I'm getting the message that installing NVDA has failed.
>>
>>
>> Please also see the log included below.
>>
>>
>> Does anyone know what the problem might be and how to solve it??
>>
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>>
>> Sandra
>>
>>
>> INFO - __main__ (13:56:46.002) - MainThread (10924):
>> Starting NVDA version 2019.3.1
>> INFO - core.main (13:56:46.082) - MainThread (10924):
>> Config dir: C:\Users\sandr\AppData\Roaming\nvda
>> INFO - config.ConfigManager._loadConfig (13:56:46.082) - MainThread (10924):
>> Loading config: C:\Users\sandr\AppData\Roaming\nvda\nvda.ini
>> INFO - core.main (13:56:46.122) - MainThread (10924):
>> Using Windows version 10.0.18363 workstation
>> INFO - core.main (13:56:46.122) - MainThread (10924):
>> Using Python version 3.7.5 (tags/v3.7.5:5c02a39a0b, Oct 14 2019, 23:09:19) [MSC v.1916 32 bit (Intel)]
>> INFO - core.main (13:56:46.122) - MainThread (10924):
>> Using comtypes version 1.1.7
>> INFO - core.main (13:56:46.122) - MainThread (10924):
>> Using configobj version 5.1.0 with validate version 1.0.1
>> INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (13:56:46.402) - MainThread (10924):
>> Loaded synthDriver oneCore
>> INFO - core.main (13:56:46.402) - MainThread (10924):
>> Using wx version 4.0.3 msw (phoenix) wxWidgets 3.0.5 with six version 1.12.0
>> INFO - brailleInput.initialize (13:56:46.407) - MainThread (10924):
>> Braille input initialized
>> INFO - braille.initialize (13:56:46.407) - MainThread (10924):
>> Using liblouis version 3.10.0
>> INFO - braille.initialize (13:56:46.407) - MainThread (10924):
>> Using pySerial version 3.4
>> INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (13:56:46.412) - MainThread (10924):
>> Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells.
>> INFO - brailleDisplayDrivers.handyTech.BrailleDisplayDriver.__init__ (13:56:46.464) - braille._BgThread (11016):
>> Found Easy Braille connected via hid (\\?\hid#vid_1fe4&pid_0044#7&7f9a61d&0&0000#{4d1e55b2-f16f-11cf-88cb-001111000030})
>> INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (13:56:46.472) - braille._BgThread (11016):
>> Loaded braille display driver handyTech, current display has 40 cells.
>> INFO - core.main (13:56:46.582) - MainThread (10924):
>> Java Access Bridge support initialized
>> INFO - _UIAHandler.UIAHandler.MTAThreadFunc (13:56:46.582) - _UIAHandler.UIAHandler.MTAThread (11020):
>> UIAutomation: IUIAutomation6
>> INFO - core.main (13:56:46.762) - MainThread (10924):
>> NVDA initialized
>> ERROR - RPC process 8756 (nvda_slave.exe) (13:57:05.773) - Dummy-1 (10840):
>> __main__.main:
>> slave error
>> Traceback (most recent call last):
>>    File "nvda_slave.pyw", line 47, in main
>>    File "installer.pyc", line 454, in install
>>    File "installer.pyc", line 261, in registerInstallation
>>    File "installer.pyc", line 58, in createShortcut
>>    File "comtypes\client\lazybind.pyc", line 218, in __setattr__
>>    File "comtypes\automation.pyc", line 729, in _invoke
>> _ctypes.COMError: (-2147352567, 'Ausnahmefehler aufgetreten.', (None, None, None, 0, None))
>> ERROR - gui.installerGui.doInstall (13:57:05.793) - MainThread (10924):
>> Installation failed: 1
>>
>>
>>
>
>





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Re: Rounding words in Microsoft Word.

Stan Bobbitt
 

Thank you so much for this Robert!

 

StanB

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Kingett
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2020 7:50 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Rounding words in Microsoft Word.

 

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Rounding words in Microsoft Word.

 

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Re: NVDA Crashing while reading Word document

Arlene
 

I googled it. You are right. This PC in windows ten is my computer.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Gene
Sent: March 4, 2020 11:22 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Crashing while reading Word document

 

I don't have Windows 10 but this PC is, from what I've read, the same as My Computer.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Arlene

Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2020 11:19 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Crashing while reading Word document

 

Neither  did I. That’s the one thing I did like about windows 7. When using windows key E it went to the windows explorer.  Using that command in win ten it’s something else. it’s This Pc.  I don’t know why but that’s what it is. 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: zahra
Sent: March 4, 2020 3:28 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Crashing while reading Word document

 

thanks gene for remembering and helping me. God bless you!

me too.

i did not use this command, except for a very rare occasions.

but one person told me that one of the advantages of windows seven

over xp is openning my computer with windows e command, its great in

list view.

and i tested on my laptop that opens my computer in a treeview and i

should use tab once for going to the list view.

and, also, i tested with windows seven which activated computer in

list view at the first time without using tab.

 

On 3/4/20, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

> I think that's true.  I almost never use that command.  I should have

> specified that I am describing Windows XP since that is, as far as I know,

> generally what you use and I know how it works in that version of Windows.

> I use that command so little that I wasn't sure if there was a difference.

> Gene

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: zahra

> Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2020 12:24 AM

> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

> Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Crashing while reading Word document

> for me, when i press windows e nvda says my computer but in treeview.

> i should press tab key one time to return to the list view.

> when i tested with windows seven,

> windows e opened computer in list view at the first time without using

> extra key for me!

> i dont know about other versions of windows and there behaviour.

> On 3/4/20, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

>> Windows e opens Windows Explorer which is somewhat like the file list in

>> my

>> computer.  But it has a tree view as well.  Pressing it twice opens

>> another

>> window of the same utility so you now have two Windows Explorer windows

>> opened.  Close the windows with alt f4.  Press it until the windows are

>> closed.  I would think two times would be sufficient.  You can tab to the

>> list view from the tree view but I see no reason to use Windows e unless

>> you

>> want the tree view.  If you use My Computer, you can see everything in

>> that

>> way.

>> 

>> Gene

>> ----- Original Message -----

>> From: zahra

>> Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2020 9:38 PM

>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

>> Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Crashing while reading Word document

>> 

>> 

>> hi Quentin.

>> i wanted to learn how can access temp files.

>> i tried both run and windows plus e.

>> unfortunately, when i press windows plus e again,

>> temp will be opened for me and i cant no longer access my computer

>> with these key again.

>> what should i do to again have my computer when i press windows plus e?

>> thanks and God bless you!

>> 

>> On 3/4/20, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:

>>> NVDA keeps its log in the %temp% folder (you can usually get to that

>>> either

>>> by pressing WINDOWS+R, typing %temp% and pressing ENTER, or from Windows

>>> Explorer (WINDOWS+E) press F2 to get to the address bar, type %temp% and

>>> press ENTER).

>>> 

>>> The log for the currently running NVDA (or most recently run copy if

>>> NVDA

>>> isn't currently running) is nvda.log.  The log from the time before that

>>> is

>>> nvda-old.log.  So, if NVDA has crashed and you've restarted it, the log

>>> from that previous time when it crashed should be nvda-old.log.

>>> Additionally, if NVDA has crashed, there should be a file called

>>> nvda_crash.dmp which has a lot of extra information we can use to work

>>> out

>>> exactly what happened.  If you send us all of those files we can have a

>>> look.  If you have a copy of the offending word document you are able to

>>> send us, that could be helpful too.

>>> 

>>> As usual, if you can recreate the issue with NVDA's log level set to

>>> "debug" and add-ons disabled, that really helps too.

>>> 

>>> Quentin.

>>> 

>>> On Wed, Mar 4, 2020 at 6:59 AM Cearbhall O'Meadhra <

>>> cearbhall.omeadhra@...> wrote:

>>> 

>>>>         Hi, Quentin and team,

>>>> I am currently reading a straightforward Word document which involves

>>>> some

>>>> technical information and so I need to arrow back and forth to verify

>>>> information. NVDA crashed a few times for no apparent reason. Then I

>>>> found

>>>> that when I used the "numpad 2" key to identify a character in the

>>>> text,

>>>> NVDA crashed. I had to restart NVDA each time. The document was not

>>>> disturbed nor did I lose my position only NVDA seemed to suffer. When I

>>>> restarted NVDA there was no longer an active log for the previous

>>>> fault.

>>>> 

>>>> Question: Is there any way to trap the log after a crash?

>>>> 

>>>> 

>>>> All the best,

>>>> 

>>>> Cearbhall

>>>> 

>>>> m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

>>>> 

>>>> 

>>>> -----Original Message-----

>>>> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shaun

>>>> Everiss

>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2020 6:06 PM

>>>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

>>>> Subject: [nvda] ccleaner new version

>>>> 

>>>> Hi all.

>>>> 

>>>> Well there is a new version out of ccleaner.

>>>> 

>>>> CCleaner hasn't had a new version in ages, however, the following

>>>> things

>>>> have been done.

>>>> 

>>>> 1.  all those nice tweaks in the ccleaner.ini no longer function so you

>>>> can't manually turn off healthcheck or updater or whatever it is

>>>> called.

>>>> 

>>>> At first there is an announcement when you start.

>>>> 

>>>> Don't for any reason interact with it because you will then not be able

>>>> to

>>>> close ccleaner, just hit alt f4 and it will just do whatever.

>>>> 

>>>> 2.  sadly the old options/ lets turn off healthcheck and only use

>>>> custom

>>>> cleaning button seems to be skipped over by nvda so I don't know, I may

>>>> try

>>>> with another reader and then see if that puts something in the ini

>>>> file.

>>>> 

>>>> 3.  healthcheck just like the previous quick clean is a great program,

>>>> its

>>>> just completely unusable by us.

>>>> 

>>>> They thankfully left custom clean alone, however this is probably it,

>>>> if

>>>> they in any way screw up custom clean, then I am going to have to

>>>> completely abandon ccleaner because I just can't interact with it

>>>> anymore.

>>>> 

>>>> I am seriously thinking about sending a recording to ccleaner support

>>>> and

>>>> all that because we can't even navigate these announcements or

>>>> healthcheck

>>>> itself, maybe have them set it so its not going to be active anymore or

>>>> something.

>>>> 

>>>> If only we could choose the option that would be a different thing but

>>>> we

>>>> can't.

>>>> 

>>>> As of now, this ini file is still usefull for its intended purpose of

>>>> custom cleaning adjustment so you don't have to interact with the

>>>> inaccessible front panel but thats all.

>>>> 

>>>> For now if wanting to do something click either tools for custom clean

>>>> before you do anything, do not hit anything else other than that.

>>>> 

>>>> 

>>>> 

>>>> 

>>>> 

>>>> 

>>>> 

>>>> 

>>>> 

>>> 

>>> --

>>> Quentin Christensen

>>> Training and Support Manager

>>> 

>>> NVDA 2019.3 rc2 now available for testing:

>>> https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2019-3rc2-now-available-for-testing/

>>> 

>>> Web: www.nvaccess.org

>>> Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

>>> Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/

>>> User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda

>>> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess

>>> Twitter: @NVAccess <https://twitter.com/NVAccess>

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>> 

>> 

>> --

>> By God,

>> were I given all the seven heavens

>> with all they contain

>> in order that

>> I may disobey God

>> by depriving an ant

>> from the husk of a grain of barley,

>> I would not do it.

>> imam ali

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

> --

> By God,

> were I given all the seven heavens

> with all they contain

> in order that

> I may disobey God

> by depriving an ant

> from the husk of a grain of barley,

> I would not do it.

> imam ali

>

 

 

--

By God,

were I given all the seven heavens

with all they contain

in order that

I may disobey God

by depriving an ant

from the husk of a grain of barley,

I would not do it.

imam ali

 

 

 

 


Re: Windows OCR and debug logging.

John Isige
 

Hitting NVDA-numpad 8 put me on "new firmware window", I assume that means that's the object it was on. NVDA-r still produced no results. I'm pretty sure I've tried routing to graphics on web pages too, with similar results. That's why I wondered if anybody had a definite example to test it on, in other words an image or such where we know what the result should be and how to get it. Because I'm seriously wondering if it's even doing anything at this point.

On 3/4/2020 15:38, Jackie wrote:
Sometimes it helps to use object navigation to ensure that it's
recognizing the correct graphics.

On 3/4/20, John Isige <gwynn@...> wrote:
Does Windows OCR show up in debug logging? I ask because I'm still
encountering the situation where it pretty much does nothing. So I
restarted with --disable-addons and --debug-logging to see if I could
find out what it's doing. I opened Komplete Kontrol, because I knew it
had a dialogue that opened, and hit NVDA-r to recognize said dialogue.
Debug logging recorded the input gesture just fine, but the next two
things it logged were NVDA speaking "recognizing" and "result". I was
really surprised that there was no mention whatsoever of any sort of OCR
process.


Alternatively, if anybody has an example of a place where OCR should
absolutely work, I'd be happy to test it. It's really weird that it
doesn't seem to recognize anything. It worked briefly when I posted
about this a while back in an earlier version when I restarted without
addons, and then it worked with addons, but then it just sort of stopped
giving me useful results, and this has continued into 2019.3.1, Windows
1909. Everything I recognize just reads "blank", there's pretty much
nothing there. I don't use OCR a lot, but I did actually use it to
update firmware from Komplete Kontrol once, and since that's the
dialogue that's come up, it would be nice to have it working again.





Re: Windows OCR and debug logging.

Jackie
 

Sometimes it helps to use object navigation to ensure that it's
recognizing the correct graphics.

On 3/4/20, John Isige <gwynn@...> wrote:
Does Windows OCR show up in debug logging? I ask because I'm still
encountering the situation where it pretty much does nothing. So I
restarted with --disable-addons and --debug-logging to see if I could
find out what it's doing. I opened Komplete Kontrol, because I knew it
had a dialogue that opened, and hit NVDA-r to recognize said dialogue.
Debug logging recorded the input gesture just fine, but the next two
things it logged were NVDA speaking "recognizing" and "result". I was
really surprised that there was no mention whatsoever of any sort of OCR
process.


Alternatively, if anybody has an example of a place where OCR should
absolutely work, I'd be happy to test it. It's really weird that it
doesn't seem to recognize anything. It worked briefly when I posted
about this a while back in an earlier version when I restarted without
addons, and then it worked with addons, but then it just sort of stopped
giving me useful results, and this has continued into 2019.3.1, Windows
1909. Everything I recognize just reads "blank", there's pretty much
nothing there. I don't use OCR a lot, but I did actually use it to
update firmware from Komplete Kontrol once, and since that's the
dialogue that's come up, it would be nice to have it working again.




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Windows OCR and debug logging.

John Isige
 

Does Windows OCR show up in debug logging? I ask because I'm still encountering the situation where it pretty much does nothing. So I restarted with --disable-addons and --debug-logging to see if I could find out what it's doing. I opened Komplete Kontrol, because I knew it had a dialogue that opened, and hit NVDA-r to recognize said dialogue. Debug logging recorded the input gesture just fine, but the next two things it logged were NVDA speaking "recognizing" and "result". I was really surprised that there was no mention whatsoever of any sort of OCR process.


Alternatively, if anybody has an example of a place where OCR should absolutely work, I'd be happy to test it. It's really weird that it doesn't seem to recognize anything. It worked briefly when I posted about this a while back in an earlier version when I restarted without addons, and then it worked with addons, but then it just sort of stopped giving me useful results, and this has continued into 2019.3.1, Windows 1909. Everything I recognize just reads "blank", there's pretty much nothing there. I don't use OCR a lot, but I did actually use it to update firmware from Komplete Kontrol once, and since that's the dialogue that's come up, it would be nice to have it working again.


Re: NVDA Crashing while reading Word document

 

WinKey+E under Windows 10 opens File Explorer, which was renamed as of Windows 8 if memory serves.  It is precisely synonymous with what had been called Windows Explorer in earlier versions of Windows.

By default it will open File Explorer with focus on the Quick Access section of File Explorer if it's active (and it is by default) which acts much like the Recent Files lists in various programs.  It can be turned off.  I believe you can also force File Explorer to open by default to whatever folder, library (e.g. Documents, Pictures), or Windows defined location (e.g. This PC) you so choose.
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       ~ Madonna

 

 


Re: Problem with NVDA and Chrome on HTML pages with many links

molly the blind tech lover
 

Hi.
There is an issue with Chrome where webpages are not refreshing. I don't
know if this the same issue you are describing, but the issue has been
resolved in the beta version of Chrome. There should be a Chrome update on
March 17 in which this issue has been resolved.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Buhrow
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2020 11:41 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Cc: buhrow@...
Subject: [nvda] Problem with NVDA and Chrome on HTML pages with many links

hello. In using Google Chrome with a squirrelmail web page with
many links, I find either NVDA or Chrome is mis-behaving. Specifically, I
see a lot of errors in the NVDA log similar to the ones below. When these
errors happen, The specific web page in question becomes unresponsive and
other odd things break, i.e. this evening, I couldn't copy to the clipboard
for some odd reason, until I reboot. Is this a known issue, and, if it is,
does anyone know where I can get the fix? I believe I'm running the latest
version of Chrome, Windows 10 and NVDA.
See snippets of the log file below.

Many thanks for any light folks can shed on this issue.

-thanks
-Brian


INFO - __main__ (23:27:25.265) - MainThread (1344):
Starting NVDA version 2019.3.1
INFO - core.main (23:27:25.749) - MainThread (1344):
Config dir: C:\Users\BUHROW\AppData\Roaming\nvda
INFO - config.ConfigManager._loadConfig (23:27:25.749) - MainThread (1344):
Loading config: C:\Users\BUHROW\AppData\Roaming\nvda\nvda.ini
INFO - core.main (23:27:26.633) - MainThread (1344):
Using Windows version 10.0.18363 workstation INFO - core.main (23:27:26.633)
- MainThread (1344):
Using Python version 3.7.5 (tags/v3.7.5:5c02a39a0b, Oct 14 2019, 23:09:19)
[MSC v.1916 32 bit (Intel)] INFO - core.main (23:27:26.634) - MainThread
(1344):
Using comtypes version 1.1.7
INFO - core.main (23:27:26.634) - MainThread (1344):
Using configobj version 5.1.0 with validate version 1.0.1 INFO -
synthDriverHandler.setSynth (23:27:29.209) - MainThread (1344):
Loaded synthDriver vocalizer
INFO - core.main (23:27:29.210) - MainThread (1344):
Using wx version 4.0.3 msw (phoenix) wxWidgets 3.0.5 with six version 1.12.0
INFO - brailleInput.initialize (23:27:29.217) - MainThread (1344):
Braille input initialized
INFO - braille.initialize (23:27:29.217) - MainThread (1344):
Using liblouis version 3.10.0
INFO - braille.initialize (23:27:29.231) - MainThread (1344):
Using pySerial version 3.4
INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (23:27:29.264) - MainThread
(1344):
Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells.
INFO - core.main (23:27:29.985) - MainThread (1344):
Java Access Bridge support initialized
INFO - _UIAHandler.UIAHandler.MTAThreadFunc (23:27:30.056) -
_UIAHandler.UIAHandler.MTAThread (10352):
UIAutomation: IUIAutomation6
INFO - core.main (23:27:30.670) - MainThread (1344):
NVDA initialized
INFO - updateCheck.AutoUpdateChecker._started (00:04:08.679) - MainThread
(1344):
Performing automatic update check

. . .
[ Here come the errors]

ERROR - scriptHandler.executeScript (00:19:32.725) - MainThread (1344):
error executing script: <bound method
BrowseModeDocumentTreeInterceptor.script_tab of
<NVDAObjects.IAccessible.chromium.ChromeVBuf object at 0x0163B7B0>> with
gesture 'tab'
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "scriptHandler.pyc", line 205, in executeScript
File "browseMode.pyc", line 1423, in script_tab
File "browseMode.pyc", line 1419, in _tabOverride
AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'setFocus'


Re: NVDA Crashing while reading Word document

 

On Wed, Mar 4, 2020 at 02:22 PM, Gene wrote:
I don't have Windows 10 but this PC is, from what I've read, the same as My Computer
The two are precisely synonymous.  With the widespread use of networked drives, the cloud, and similar - not to mention that many PCs have multiple user accounts -  "This PC," actually makes more sense  All personal libraries have now dropped "My" from their names, so what was My Documents is now Documents, My Pictures is Pictures, etc., etc., etc.
 
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       ~ Madonna

 

 


Re: NVDA Crashing while reading Word document

Gene
 

I don't have Windows 10 but this PC is, from what I've read, the same as My Computer.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Arlene
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2020 11:19 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Crashing while reading Word document

Neither  did I. That’s the one thing I did like about windows 7. When using windows key E it went to the windows explorer.  Using that command in win ten it’s something else. it’s This Pc.  I don’t know why but that’s what it is. 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: zahra
Sent: March 4, 2020 3:28 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Crashing while reading Word document

 

thanks gene for remembering and helping me. God bless you!

me too.

i did not use this command, except for a very rare occasions.

but one person told me that one of the advantages of windows seven

over xp is openning my computer with windows e command, its great in

list view.

and i tested on my laptop that opens my computer in a treeview and i

should use tab once for going to the list view.

and, also, i tested with windows seven which activated computer in

list view at the first time without using tab.

 

On 3/4/20, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

> I think that's true.  I almost never use that command.  I should have

> specified that I am describing Windows XP since that is, as far as I know,

> generally what you use and I know how it works in that version of Windows.

> I use that command so little that I wasn't sure if there was a difference.

> Gene

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: zahra

> Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2020 12:24 AM

> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

> Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Crashing while reading Word document

> for me, when i press windows e nvda says my computer but in treeview.

> i should press tab key one time to return to the list view.

> when i tested with windows seven,

> windows e opened computer in list view at the first time without using

> extra key for me!

> i dont know about other versions of windows and there behaviour.

> On 3/4/20, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

>> Windows e opens Windows Explorer which is somewhat like the file list in

>> my

>> computer.  But it has a tree view as well.  Pressing it twice opens

>> another

>> window of the same utility so you now have two Windows Explorer windows

>> opened.  Close the windows with alt f4.  Press it until the windows are

>> closed.  I would think two times would be sufficient.  You can tab to the

>> list view from the tree view but I see no reason to use Windows e unless

>> you

>> want the tree view.  If you use My Computer, you can see everything in

>> that

>> way.

>> 

>> Gene

>> ----- Original Message -----

>> From: zahra

>> Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2020 9:38 PM

>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

>> Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Crashing while reading Word document

>> 

>> 

>> hi Quentin.

>> i wanted to learn how can access temp files.

>> i tried both run and windows plus e.

>> unfortunately, when i press windows plus e again,

>> temp will be opened for me and i cant no longer access my computer

>> with these key again.

>> what should i do to again have my computer when i press windows plus e?

>> thanks and God bless you!

>> 

>> On 3/4/20, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:

>>> NVDA keeps its log in the %temp% folder (you can usually get to that

>>> either

>>> by pressing WINDOWS+R, typing %temp% and pressing ENTER, or from Windows

>>> Explorer (WINDOWS+E) press F2 to get to the address bar, type %temp% and

>>> press ENTER).

>>> 

>>> The log for the currently running NVDA (or most recently run copy if

>>> NVDA

>>> isn't currently running) is nvda.log.  The log from the time before that

>>> is

>>> nvda-old.log.  So, if NVDA has crashed and you've restarted it, the log

>>> from that previous time when it crashed should be nvda-old.log.

>>> Additionally, if NVDA has crashed, there should be a file called

>>> nvda_crash.dmp which has a lot of extra information we can use to work

>>> out

>>> exactly what happened.  If you send us all of those files we can have a

>>> look.  If you have a copy of the offending word document you are able to

>>> send us, that could be helpful too.

>>> 

>>> As usual, if you can recreate the issue with NVDA's log level set to

>>> "debug" and add-ons disabled, that really helps too.

>>> 

>>> Quentin.

>>> 

>>> On Wed, Mar 4, 2020 at 6:59 AM Cearbhall O'Meadhra <

>>> cearbhall.omeadhra@...> wrote:

>>> 

>>>>         Hi, Quentin and team,

>>>> I am currently reading a straightforward Word document which involves

>>>> some

>>>> technical information and so I need to arrow back and forth to verify

>>>> information. NVDA crashed a few times for no apparent reason. Then I

>>>> found

>>>> that when I used the "numpad 2" key to identify a character in the

>>>> text,

>>>> NVDA crashed. I had to restart NVDA each time. The document was not

>>>> disturbed nor did I lose my position only NVDA seemed to suffer. When I

>>>> restarted NVDA there was no longer an active log for the previous

>>>> fault.

>>>> 

>>>> Question: Is there any way to trap the log after a crash?

>>>> 

>>>> 

>>>> All the best,

>>>> 

>>>> Cearbhall

>>>> 

>>>> m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

>>>> 

>>>> 

>>>> -----Original Message-----

>>>> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shaun

>>>> Everiss

>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2020 6:06 PM

>>>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

>>>> Subject: [nvda] ccleaner new version

>>>> 

>>>> Hi all.

>>>> 

>>>> Well there is a new version out of ccleaner.

>>>> 

>>>> CCleaner hasn't had a new version in ages, however, the following

>>>> things

>>>> have been done.

>>>> 

>>>> 1.  all those nice tweaks in the ccleaner.ini no longer function so you

>>>> can't manually turn off healthcheck or updater or whatever it is

>>>> called.

>>>> 

>>>> At first there is an announcement when you start.

>>>> 

>>>> Don't for any reason interact with it because you will then not be able

>>>> to

>>>> close ccleaner, just hit alt f4 and it will just do whatever.

>>>> 

>>>> 2.  sadly the old options/ lets turn off healthcheck and only use

>>>> custom

>>>> cleaning button seems to be skipped over by nvda so I don't know, I may

>>>> try

>>>> with another reader and then see if that puts something in the ini

>>>> file.

>>>> 

>>>> 3.  healthcheck just like the previous quick clean is a great program,

>>>> its

>>>> just completely unusable by us.

>>>> 

>>>> They thankfully left custom clean alone, however this is probably it,

>>>> if

>>>> they in any way screw up custom clean, then I am going to have to

>>>> completely abandon ccleaner because I just can't interact with it

>>>> anymore.

>>>> 

>>>> I am seriously thinking about sending a recording to ccleaner support

>>>> and

>>>> all that because we can't even navigate these announcements or

>>>> healthcheck

>>>> itself, maybe have them set it so its not going to be active anymore or

>>>> something.

>>>> 

>>>> If only we could choose the option that would be a different thing but

>>>> we

>>>> can't.

>>>> 

>>>> As of now, this ini file is still usefull for its intended purpose of

>>>> custom cleaning adjustment so you don't have to interact with the

>>>> inaccessible front panel but thats all.

>>>> 

>>>> For now if wanting to do something click either tools for custom clean

>>>> before you do anything, do not hit anything else other than that.

>>>> 

>>>> 

>>>> 

>>>> 

>>>> 

>>>> 

>>>> 

>>>> 

>>>> 

>>> 

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>>> 

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>> 

>> 

>> --

>> By God,

>> were I given all the seven heavens

>> with all they contain

>> in order that

>> I may disobey God

>> by depriving an ant

>> from the husk of a grain of barley,

>> I would not do it.

>> imam ali

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

> --

> By God,

> were I given all the seven heavens

> with all they contain

> in order that

> I may disobey God

> by depriving an ant

> from the husk of a grain of barley,

> I would not do it.

> imam ali

>

 

 

--

By God,

were I given all the seven heavens

with all they contain

in order that

I may disobey God

by depriving an ant

from the husk of a grain of barley,

I would not do it.

imam ali

 

 

 


Re: Password Managers

Nimer Jaber
 

Give bitwarden a try. Also, Lastpass has a free version with a few limitations, but still works well.

thanks.

On Wed, Mar 4, 2020 at 8:27 AM Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:
I would suggest both Searching the NVDA Group Archive and Searching the Windows 10 for Screen Reader Users Archive on the phrase "password manager" or "password managers" along with "free" if that's critically important, as this topic has been discussed many, many times on both groups.

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Character not spoken when reading by character

Daniel Gartmann
 

 

Hi,

 

Using NVDA 2019.3.1, and the CodeFactory Vocalizer add-on:

 

I am trying to investigate an issue where the é character is not being read with the CodeFactory Danish voices when I go character by character using the standard, arrow keys.

 

With eSpeak NG, the character is spoken.

 

Any idea how I can investigate this issue further or even try to correct it?

 

Thanks and best regards

 

Daniel