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Re: NVDA and web buttons

Jackie
 

Just press NVDA spacebar again, Hettie. A lower beep tone is what you
want to hear.

So I suspect I'm gonna get in trouble for saying this, but I'm just
sharing my experience. Sometimes, it appears like NVDA has trouble
activating some web elements, & I often have to use a variety of
techniques if enter or spacebar doesn't work, including the NVDA f7
key, using object navigation, NVDA backspace/shift backspace to ensure
the element is in focus & then enter/spacebar/click, etc. I think some
of it just has to do w/the element not actually being in focus,
although NVDA indicates that it is.

On 8/1/20, Hettie <woehler.hettie@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all

I used the NVDA key + spacebar to activate an unsubscribe button on my
AVG account web page. I was able to tab to the wanted button but unable
to activate it. After this it was also not possible to read the screen
with the arrow keys. When my son came to assist me he saw that there was
a message on the screen asking whether I really want to unsubscribe.
That message wasn't read to me and as I douldn't navigate the screen I
didn't knew that I was supposed to react on a yes/no question.

How do I return to the normal screen after pressing the NVDA key +
spacebar?


Thanks for any help.


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NVDA and web buttons

Hettie
 

Hi all

I used the NVDA key + spacebar to activate an unsubscribe button on my AVG account web page. I was able to tab to the wanted button but unable to activate it. After this it was also not possible to read the screen with the arrow keys. When my son came to assist me he saw that there was a message on the screen asking whether I really want to unsubscribe. That message wasn't read to me and as I douldn't navigate the screen I didn't knew that I was supposed to react on a yes/no question.

How do I return to the normal screen after pressing the NVDA key + spacebar?


Thanks for any help.


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Re: Outlook 2016 - Cannot Open Certain Messages When NVDA is Active

Christo Vorster <christo.vorster.klavierstem@...>
 

Hi Quentin

 

It seems as if there was some kind of problem with the mail I receveid. After I installed NVDA 2020.2 and deleted the email, then requesting a re-send of the message, everything worked well.

 

Thank you, if I experience something similar, I’ll be in touch again.

 

Regards

 

Christo Vorster (Worcester, South Africa)

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Friday, 31 July 2020 06:07
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA PROBLEM

 

Hi Christo,

 

Could you get me a copy of your NVDA log to have a look at please, ideally at debug level?
Please send it attached to an email to info@....  Include a description of what you have done and what isn't working as it should (so I know what it's about in case I don't get to investigate today).

First of all, your NVDA key is either INSERT or CAPS LOCK, depending on how you have NVDA setup.  So, to set your log level:
1) Press NVDA+control+g to open the general settings
2) Press TAB until the focus is on 'Log level'
3) Press DOWN ARROW to get to 'Debug'
4) Press ENTER to close settings
5) Press NVDA+control+c to save settings.

To restart NVDA with add-ons disabled:
1) Press NVDA+Q
2) Down arrow to 'Restart with add-ons disabled'
3) Press ENTER

Next, recreate the issue - do whatever causes problems.

To get NVDA's log after that, there are several ways:

If NVDA is still running and usable:
1) Press NVDA+F1 to open the log viewer
2) Press CONTROL+A to select all.
3) Press CONTROL+C to copy.
4) Open your email and start a message to info@..., type a little about what you have done and what has happened in the body of the message, then leave a space and:
5) Press CONTROL+V to paste the copied log.

Instead of using the log viewer, or if NVDA has stopped and you needed to restart it or the computer:
1) Press WINDOWS+R to open Windows' Run dialog
2) Type %temp% and press ENTER (that's the percent sign, the letter t e m p and another percent sign).  Windows Explorer should open to the temporary folder.
3) Press TAB to move to the file list
4) Press N and move down to find up to three files:  nvda.log (the log file for the current or most recent NVDA session), nvda-old.og (the log from the previous session) and nvda-crash.dmp (a crash dump with more information created if NVDA itself crashes).
5) Depending on what email program you use, the steps will be different, but attach as many of those three files to an email to info@... as will be useful, and again in the body of the message describe a bit about what has happened.

 

If possible, could you please also forward a message which causes problems to me so that I can endeavour to replicate myself?  Ideally, instead of forwarding as you normally would, could you please forward as attachment?  In Outlook you can move to the message in the list, then press ALT+H, 0, 0, then F.

 

Sometimes when forwarding a message normally, the email client can alter the structure enough so that even though it looks the same, it might not cause exactly the same effects, (such as crashing NVDA).

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 7:21 PM Christo Vorster <christo.vorster.klavierstem@...> wrote:

GAood Morning list

Please help!!

Regards

 

Christo Vorster (Worcester, south Africa)

 

This is the copy of the log:

 

INFO - __main__ (10:54:35.500) - MainThread (9268):

Starting NVDA version 2020.1

INFO - core.main (10:54:36.897) - MainThread (9268):

Config dir: C:\Users\Christo Vorster\AppData\Roaming\nvda

INFO - config.ConfigManager._loadConfig (10:54:36.897) - MainThread (9268):

Loading config: C:\Users\Christo Vorster\AppData\Roaming\nvda\nvda.ini

INFO - core.main (10:54:40.442) - MainThread (9268):

Using Windows version 10.0.19041 workstation

INFO - core.main (10:54:40.442) - MainThread (9268):

Using Python version 3.7.7 (tags/v3.7.7:d7c567b08f, Mar 10 2020, 09:44:33) [MSC v.1900 32 bit (Intel)]

INFO - core.main (10:54:40.442) - MainThread (9268):

Using comtypes version 1.1.7

INFO - core.main (10:54:40.442) - MainThread (9268):

Using configobj version 5.1.0 with validate version 1.0.1

INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (10:54:48.280) - MainThread (9268):

Loaded synthDriver ibmeci

INFO - core.main (10:54:49.218) - MainThread (9268):

Using wx version 4.0.3 msw (phoenix) wxWidgets 3.0.5 with six version 1.12.0

INFO - brailleInput.initialize (10:54:49.220) - MainThread (9268):

Braille input initialized

INFO - braille.initialize (10:54:49.228) - MainThread (9268):

Using liblouis version 3.12.0

INFO - braille.initialize (10:54:49.241) - MainThread (9268):

Using pySerial version 3.4

INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (10:54:51.145) - MainThread (9268):

Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells.

INFO - core.main (10:54:53.007) - MainThread (9268):

Java Access Bridge support initialized

INFO - _UIAHandler.UIAHandler.MTAThreadFunc (10:54:53.272) - _UIAHandler.UIAHandler.MTAThread (7440):

UIAutomation: IUIAutomation6

INFO - core.main (10:55:00.063) - MainThread (9268):

NVDA initialized

ERROR - eventHandler.executeEvent (11:07:11.977) - MainThread (9268):

error executing event: gainFocus on <appModules.outlook.UIAGridRow object at 0x079A43B0> with extra args of {}

Traceback (most recent call last):

  File "eventHandler.pyc", line 155, in executeEvent

  File "eventHandler.pyc", line 92, in __init__

  File "eventHandler.pyc", line 100, in next

  File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyc", line 1102, in event_gainFocus

  File "NVDAObjects\behaviors.pyc", line 611, in reportFocus

  File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyc", line 988, in reportFocus

  File "speech\__init__.pyc", line 469, in speakObject

  File "speech\__init__.pyc", line 506, in getObjectSpeech

  File "speech\__init__.pyc", line 377, in getObjectPropertiesSpeech

  File "baseObject.pyc", line 42, in __get__

  File "baseObject.pyc", line 145, in _getPropertyViaCache

  File "appModules\outlook.pyc", line 445, in _get_name

  File "comtypesMonkeyPatches.pyc", line 26, in __call__

_ctypes.COMError: (-2146233083, None, (None, None, None, 0, None))

ERROR - eventHandler.executeEvent (11:07:46.564) - MainThread (9268):

error executing event: gainFocus on <appModules.outlook.OutlookWordDocument object at 0x0708E250> with extra args of {}

Traceback (most recent call last):

  File "speech\__init__.pyc", line 512, in getObjectSpeech

  File "documentBase.pyc", line 24, in makeTextInfo

  File "NVDAObjects\window\winword.pyc", line 673, in __init__

AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'range'

 

During handling of the above exception, another exception occurred:

 

Traceback (most recent call last):

  File "eventHandler.pyc", line 155, in executeEvent

  File "eventHandler.pyc", line 92, in __init__

  File "eventHandler.pyc", line 100, in next

  File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyc", line 1102, in event_gainFocus

  File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyc", line 988, in reportFocus

  File "speech\__init__.pyc", line 469, in speakObject

  File "speech\__init__.pyc", line 527, in getObjectSpeech

  File "documentBase.pyc", line 24, in makeTextInfo

  File "NVDAObjects\window\winword.pyc", line 678, in __init__

AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'range'

ERROR - eventHandler.executeEvent (11:07:46.574) - MainThread (9268):

error executing event: caret on <appModules.outlook.OutlookWordDocument object at 0x0708E250> with extra args of {}

Traceback (most recent call last):

  File "eventHandler.pyc", line 155, in executeEvent

  File "eventHandler.pyc", line 92, in __init__

  File "eventHandler.pyc", line 100, in next

  File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\winword.pyc", line 47, in event_caret

  File "documentBase.pyc", line 24, in makeTextInfo

  File "NVDAObjects\window\winword.pyc", line 673, in __init__

AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'range'

ERROR - eventHandler.executeEvent (11:07:46.595) - MainThread (9268):

error executing event: caret on <appModules.outlook.OutlookWordDocument object at 0x0708E250> with extra args of {}

Traceback (most recent call last):

  File "eventHandler.pyc", line 155, in executeEvent

  File "eventHandler.pyc", line 92, in __init__

  File "eventHandler.pyc", line 100, in next

  File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\winword.pyc", line 47, in event_caret

  File "documentBase.pyc", line 24, in makeTextInfo

  File "NVDAObjects\window\winword.pyc", line 673, in __init__

AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'range'

 

 

 

I have a problem opening certain emails in Outlook 2016.

 

If NVDA is turned off, the specific mails can be opened.

 

I copied the View Log after I experienced the problem.

 

Would it help if I uninstall, and then re-install NVDA?

 

 


 

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Free Tutorials for using NVDA with MS Office Word, PowerPoint and Excel

soloman s
 

Hello all,

Could someone share tutorials for Word, Excel and PowerPoint using NVDA? It will be helpful if you could direct me to links/resources.
I am looking for free resources.

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Re: I can't read table of content with nvda

Aschalew Byness
 

I am reading word document. nvda reads all but the table of content.
this happens when I read many word documents with table of contents

On 8/1/20, Daniel Damacena <danieldamacena.ma@gmail.com> wrote:
Which software do you refer to?
If you're talking about adobe reader or adobe digital editions, yes, you
can read the toc.

Em sáb., 1 de ago. de 2020 às 04:59, Aschalew Byness <
gakidan.ashagre235@gmail.com> escreveu:

Hi you lovely guys
I couldn’t read table of contents with NVDA. Whenever I try to read
table of contents, nvda reads: out of link TOC \o "1-3" \h \z \u
link .
My sighted friends read the full content of the TOC. Nvda skips it
this way. ‘out of link TOC \o "1-3" \h \z \u link .

Solution?



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Re: I can't read table of content with nvda

Daniel Damacena
 

Which software do you refer to?
If you're talking about adobe reader or adobe digital editions, yes, you can read the toc.

Em sáb., 1 de ago. de 2020 às 04:59, Aschalew Byness <gakidan.ashagre235@...> escreveu:

Hi you lovely guys
I couldn’t read table of contents with NVDA. Whenever I try to read
table of contents, nvda reads: out of link  TOC \o "1-3" \h \z \u
link   .
My sighted friends read the full content of the TOC. Nvda skips it
this way. ‘out of link  TOC \o "1-3" \h \z \u   link   .

Solution?





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I can't read table of content with nvda

Aschalew Byness
 

Hi you lovely guys
I couldn’t read table of contents with NVDA. Whenever I try to read
table of contents, nvda reads: out of link TOC \o "1-3" \h \z \u
link .
My sighted friends read the full content of the TOC. Nvda skips it
this way. ‘out of link TOC \o "1-3" \h \z \u link .

Solution?
Re: I am needing assistance updating to the latest version of NVDA

Kevin Cussick
 

Hi, well done, I remember what was like when I got my first computer. so just shout out and we will help if we can.

On 31/07/2020 00:02, Betsy Grenevitch wrote:
Sorry to clutter the list but I wanted to thank David and Sarah for helping me so much. I did not have the website that sarah mentioned written down before and when I went in that way it worked. I have memory problems now and thus the reason my confidence level is even lower. Thank you both for helping me have the courage to try downloading it this way.
Thank you to those who designed the website that the link said exactly what told me that I was at the correct spot to download the latest update.
On 7/30/2020 3:59 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

You will be fine. Go to nvda-project.org and use yoru screen reader's find function to find and navigate. You will be fine. You won't get hurt.

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On 30 Jul 2020, at 12:25, Betsy Grenevitch wrote:

Thank you. I am waiting to hear back from David hopefully with a
link to the full install. As I have told you and now told him I do
not feel comfortable with websites where I have to download
something unless there is a direct link. I know it is a fear I
need to get over but I guess it is because of a lack of training
on computers.


On 7/30/2020 11:39 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:
And to add to Mr. Goldfield's advice, if you have an issue
running the full installer for NVDA 2020.2, then manually
uninstall whatever NVDA you currently have installed via Control
Panel, Programs and Features, then trying to install the latest
again.  But don't do that first, as an install-over install
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Re: nvda addon list

Brian Vogel
 

Go to Groups.io, activate the "Find or Create a Group" control at the top, enter NVDA in the search box, activate search, and you'll get the list of the 29 NVDA related groups on Groups.io, this one and nvda-addons among them.

Every group's main page, is shown as a link, which is also a header, in the search results just like most web search engines.  You can use the H browsing shortcut to jump from group to group.  On the group page, if you activate the link, for any Groups.io group, will be a section entitled Group Email addresses under which all the addresses related to post, subscribe, unsubscribe and several other controls and contacts for the group will be listed.

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nvda addon list

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I want to subscribe to nvda addon group list. I want also to subscribe
to other nvda related group list. help me please by sending their
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Re: ALLOW APP THROUGH CONTROLLED FOLDER ACCESS DOESN'T READ

Quentin Christensen
 

Do you have any blocked apps?  I must admit I haven't really used this feature, but turning it on, it says most apps will be allowed by default, so maybe it is simply that there aren't any blocked apps?


On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 11:47 PM <heaven.lists92@...> wrote:

Dear List

 

My husband and I both have laptops with Windows 10 2004 and NVDA 2020-2.

 

Since we updated Windows, NVDA doesn't read the list of blocked apps in Controlled Folder Access.

 

Does anyone know what to do about this, please?

 

Kind regards

 

Heaven



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Re: Possible nvda problems when the system and the nvda language is set to Greek

Luke Davis
 

On Fri, 31 Jul 2020, Nikos Demetriou via groups.io wrote:

People from Greece reported to me that after there is an update to nvda, the option to start nvda automatically with windows gets unchecked and they have to
go into general settings and enable it again.
I never had this issue so I assume that it has got something to do with the windows language or perhaps the nvda language.
All these people have got Greek selected for both windows and NVDA.
That happens to all kinds of people, with English or various other languages set. It happens to me about 25% of the time I upgrade, and it doesn't seem to happen consistently for the same version of NVDA across various systems.

For now it's just one of those little quirks of computer life. If NVDA is silent for a while after updating and doing the restart, this has probably happened. Press the shortcut to start it and if it starts, that's what occurred.

Luke
Re: Possible nvda problems when the system and the nvda language is set to Greek

Joseph Lee
 

Hi,

As for Windows 10 App Essentials problem, I do need a debug log from affected users (and I beg you from bottom of my heart, please don’t cross-post, especially by putting more than one list addresses in the CC field).

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bobby Vinton
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2020 11:46 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Possible nvda problems when the system and the nvda language is set to Greek

 

On 7/31/2020 2:38 AM, Nikos Demetriou via groups.io wrote:

Hi all.

I would like to report 2 issues some other users reported to me.

I cannot reproduce them for now because my windows language is set to English and the same applies for the nvda language.

 

I am sending this to both the nvda list and the nvda addons list because one issue is for nvda in general and the other issue is with an addon.

Both issues seem to affect windows 10 users only.

 

People from Greece reported to me that after there is an update to nvda, the option to start nvda automatically with windows gets unchecked and they have to go into general settings and enable it again.

I never had this issue so I assume that it has got something to do with the windows language or perhaps the nvda language.

All these people have got Greek selected for both windows and NVDA.

 

The second issue has got to do with the addon windows 10 app essentials.

 

The addon is refusing to install on some systems.

The message they receive says failed to install without any further explanations.

 

By changing the nvda language the problem is not fixed.

 

A user mannaged to install the addon at the end by changing the nvda language, uninstalling nvda and reinstalling it.

This user had windows 10 1909 at first, then she updated to 2004, but the addon was refusing to install.

 

If you need more information let me know.

If needed I will try to find some logs from some people.

Thanks

Nikos

I never had this issue eather.  That's very odd.
Re: Possible nvda problems when the system and the nvda language is set to Greek

Bobby Vinton <vinton.bobby5277@...>
 

On 7/31/2020 2:38 AM, Nikos Demetriou via groups.io wrote:
Hi all.
I would like to report 2 issues some other users reported to me.
I cannot reproduce them for now because my windows language is set to English and the same applies for the nvda language.

I am sending this to both the nvda list and the nvda addons list because one issue is for nvda in general and the other issue is with an addon.
Both issues seem to affect windows 10 users only.

People from Greece reported to me that after there is an update to nvda, the option to start nvda automatically with windows gets unchecked and they have to go into general settings and enable it again.
I never had this issue so I assume that it has got something to do with the windows language or perhaps the nvda language.
All these people have got Greek selected for both windows and NVDA.

The second issue has got to do with the addon windows 10 app essentials.

The addon is refusing to install on some systems.
The message they receive says failed to install without any further explanations.

By changing the nvda language the problem is not fixed.

A user mannaged to install the addon at the end by changing the nvda language, uninstalling nvda and reinstalling it.
This user had windows 10 1909 at first, then she updated to 2004, but the addon was refusing to install.

If you need more information let me know.
If needed I will try to find some logs from some people.
Thanks
Nikos

I never had this issue eather.  That's very odd.
Possible nvda problems when the system and the nvda language is set to Greek

Nikos Demetriou
 

Hi all.
I would like to report 2 issues some other users reported to me.
I cannot reproduce them for now because my windows language is set to English and the same applies for the nvda language.

I am sending this to both the nvda list and the nvda addons list because one issue is for nvda in general and the other issue is with an addon.
Both issues seem to affect windows 10 users only.

People from Greece reported to me that after there is an update to nvda, the option to start nvda automatically with windows gets unchecked and they have to go into general settings and enable it again.
I never had this issue so I assume that it has got something to do with the windows language or perhaps the nvda language.
All these people have got Greek selected for both windows and NVDA.

The second issue has got to do with the addon windows 10 app essentials.

The addon is refusing to install on some systems.
The message they receive says failed to install without any further explanations.

By changing the nvda language the problem is not fixed.

A user mannaged to install the addon at the end by changing the nvda language, uninstalling nvda and reinstalling it.
This user had windows 10 1909 at first, then she updated to 2004, but the addon was refusing to install.

If you need more information let me know.
If needed I will try to find some logs from some people.
Thanks
Nikos
Re: Outlook 2016 - Cannot Open Certain Messages When NVDA is Active

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Christo,

Could you get me a copy of your NVDA log to have a look at please, ideally at debug level?
Please send it attached to an email to info@....  Include a description of what you have done and what isn't working as it should (so I know what it's about in case I don't get to investigate today).

First of all, your NVDA key is either INSERT or CAPS LOCK, depending on how you have NVDA setup.  So, to set your log level:
1) Press NVDA+control+g to open the general settings
2) Press TAB until the focus is on 'Log level'
3) Press DOWN ARROW to get to 'Debug'
4) Press ENTER to close settings
5) Press NVDA+control+c to save settings.

To restart NVDA with add-ons disabled:
1) Press NVDA+Q
2) Down arrow to 'Restart with add-ons disabled'
3) Press ENTER

Next, recreate the issue - do whatever causes problems.

To get NVDA's log after that, there are several ways:

If NVDA is still running and usable:
1) Press NVDA+F1 to open the log viewer
2) Press CONTROL+A to select all.
3) Press CONTROL+C to copy.
4) Open your email and start a message to info@..., type a little about what you have done and what has happened in the body of the message, then leave a space and:
5) Press CONTROL+V to paste the copied log.

Instead of using the log viewer, or if NVDA has stopped and you needed to restart it or the computer:
1) Press WINDOWS+R to open Windows' Run dialog
2) Type %temp% and press ENTER (that's the percent sign, the letter t e m p and another percent sign).  Windows Explorer should open to the temporary folder.
3) Press TAB to move to the file list
4) Press N and move down to find up to three files:  nvda.log (the log file for the current or most recent NVDA session), nvda-old.og (the log from the previous session) and nvda-crash.dmp (a crash dump with more information created if NVDA itself crashes).
5) Depending on what email program you use, the steps will be different, but attach as many of those three files to an email to info@... as will be useful, and again in the body of the message describe a bit about what has happened.

If possible, could you please also forward a message which causes problems to me so that I can endeavour to replicate myself?  Ideally, instead of forwarding as you normally would, could you please forward as attachment?  In Outlook you can move to the message in the list, then press ALT+H, 0, 0, then F.

Sometimes when forwarding a message normally, the email client can alter the structure enough so that even though it looks the same, it might not cause exactly the same effects, (such as crashing NVDA).

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 7:21 PM Christo Vorster <christo.vorster.klavierstem@...> wrote:

GAood Morning list

Please help!!

Regards

 

Christo Vorster (Worcester, south Africa)

 

This is the copy of the log:

 

INFO - __main__ (10:54:35.500) - MainThread (9268):

Starting NVDA version 2020.1

INFO - core.main (10:54:36.897) - MainThread (9268):

Config dir: C:\Users\Christo Vorster\AppData\Roaming\nvda

INFO - config.ConfigManager._loadConfig (10:54:36.897) - MainThread (9268):

Loading config: C:\Users\Christo Vorster\AppData\Roaming\nvda\nvda.ini

INFO - core.main (10:54:40.442) - MainThread (9268):

Using Windows version 10.0.19041 workstation

INFO - core.main (10:54:40.442) - MainThread (9268):

Using Python version 3.7.7 (tags/v3.7.7:d7c567b08f, Mar 10 2020, 09:44:33) [MSC v.1900 32 bit (Intel)]

INFO - core.main (10:54:40.442) - MainThread (9268):

Using comtypes version 1.1.7

INFO - core.main (10:54:40.442) - MainThread (9268):

Using configobj version 5.1.0 with validate version 1.0.1

INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (10:54:48.280) - MainThread (9268):

Loaded synthDriver ibmeci

INFO - core.main (10:54:49.218) - MainThread (9268):

Using wx version 4.0.3 msw (phoenix) wxWidgets 3.0.5 with six version 1.12.0

INFO - brailleInput.initialize (10:54:49.220) - MainThread (9268):

Braille input initialized

INFO - braille.initialize (10:54:49.228) - MainThread (9268):

Using liblouis version 3.12.0

INFO - braille.initialize (10:54:49.241) - MainThread (9268):

Using pySerial version 3.4

INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (10:54:51.145) - MainThread (9268):

Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells.

INFO - core.main (10:54:53.007) - MainThread (9268):

Java Access Bridge support initialized

INFO - _UIAHandler.UIAHandler.MTAThreadFunc (10:54:53.272) - _UIAHandler.UIAHandler.MTAThread (7440):

UIAutomation: IUIAutomation6

INFO - core.main (10:55:00.063) - MainThread (9268):

NVDA initialized

ERROR - eventHandler.executeEvent (11:07:11.977) - MainThread (9268):

error executing event: gainFocus on <appModules.outlook.UIAGridRow object at 0x079A43B0> with extra args of {}

Traceback (most recent call last):

  File "eventHandler.pyc", line 155, in executeEvent

  File "eventHandler.pyc", line 92, in __init__

  File "eventHandler.pyc", line 100, in next

  File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyc", line 1102, in event_gainFocus

  File "NVDAObjects\behaviors.pyc", line 611, in reportFocus

  File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyc", line 988, in reportFocus

  File "speech\__init__.pyc", line 469, in speakObject

  File "speech\__init__.pyc", line 506, in getObjectSpeech

  File "speech\__init__.pyc", line 377, in getObjectPropertiesSpeech

  File "baseObject.pyc", line 42, in __get__

  File "baseObject.pyc", line 145, in _getPropertyViaCache

  File "appModules\outlook.pyc", line 445, in _get_name

  File "comtypesMonkeyPatches.pyc", line 26, in __call__

_ctypes.COMError: (-2146233083, None, (None, None, None, 0, None))

ERROR - eventHandler.executeEvent (11:07:46.564) - MainThread (9268):

error executing event: gainFocus on <appModules.outlook.OutlookWordDocument object at 0x0708E250> with extra args of {}

Traceback (most recent call last):

  File "speech\__init__.pyc", line 512, in getObjectSpeech

  File "documentBase.pyc", line 24, in makeTextInfo

  File "NVDAObjects\window\winword.pyc", line 673, in __init__

AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'range'

 

During handling of the above exception, another exception occurred:

 

Traceback (most recent call last):

  File "eventHandler.pyc", line 155, in executeEvent

  File "eventHandler.pyc", line 92, in __init__

  File "eventHandler.pyc", line 100, in next

  File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyc", line 1102, in event_gainFocus

  File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyc", line 988, in reportFocus

  File "speech\__init__.pyc", line 469, in speakObject

  File "speech\__init__.pyc", line 527, in getObjectSpeech

  File "documentBase.pyc", line 24, in makeTextInfo

  File "NVDAObjects\window\winword.pyc", line 678, in __init__

AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'range'

ERROR - eventHandler.executeEvent (11:07:46.574) - MainThread (9268):

error executing event: caret on <appModules.outlook.OutlookWordDocument object at 0x0708E250> with extra args of {}

Traceback (most recent call last):

  File "eventHandler.pyc", line 155, in executeEvent

  File "eventHandler.pyc", line 92, in __init__

  File "eventHandler.pyc", line 100, in next

  File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\winword.pyc", line 47, in event_caret

  File "documentBase.pyc", line 24, in makeTextInfo

  File "NVDAObjects\window\winword.pyc", line 673, in __init__

AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'range'

ERROR - eventHandler.executeEvent (11:07:46.595) - MainThread (9268):

error executing event: caret on <appModules.outlook.OutlookWordDocument object at 0x0708E250> with extra args of {}

Traceback (most recent call last):

  File "eventHandler.pyc", line 155, in executeEvent

  File "eventHandler.pyc", line 92, in __init__

  File "eventHandler.pyc", line 100, in next

  File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\winword.pyc", line 47, in event_caret

  File "documentBase.pyc", line 24, in makeTextInfo

  File "NVDAObjects\window\winword.pyc", line 673, in __init__

AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'range'

 

 

 

I have a problem opening certain emails in Outlook 2016.

 

If NVDA is turned off, the specific mails can be opened.

 

I copied the View Log after I experienced the problem.

 

Would it help if I uninstall, and then re-install NVDA?

 

 



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Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager
Re: Questions About Mouse Cursor Movement and Position

Steve Matzura
 

Yes, I have GC installed. Just haven't learned how to use it yet, that's abundantly clear to me now. LOL.

On 7/30/2020 9:48 PM, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:
Hi


Not sure if you are aware of a add on called golden cursor it will let you use arrow keys to navigate and do other stuff it can be found at https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/goldenCursor.en.html

it will have to be installed into NVDA for that extra functionality.



Gene nz

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On 31/07/2020 12:53 pm, Steve Matzura wrote:
The audible position when the mouse cursor is routed is one of my favorite features of NVDA, but is it also possible to move the mouse cursor and pres a key that will give that same information at the mouse cursor's new position?


Also, what's the keystroke for getting the position of the PC Cursor? It seems that NVDA+DELETE only gives the mouse pointer position.


And lastly, is it possible to get these position announcements in pixels instead of percentages of linear measurements?


Thank in advance.


NVDA's come such a long way, and I'm happy and proud to be a supporter thereof, both conceptually and financially.
Re: Questions About Mouse Cursor Movement and Position

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi


Not sure if you are aware of a add on called golden cursor it will let you use arrow keys to navigate and do other stuff it can be found at https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/goldenCursor.en.html

it will have to be installed into NVDA for that extra functionality.



Gene nz

.

On 31/07/2020 12:53 pm, Steve Matzura wrote:
The audible position when the mouse cursor is routed is one of my favorite features of NVDA, but is it also possible to move the mouse cursor and pres a key that will give that same information at the mouse cursor's new position?


Also, what's the keystroke for getting the position of the PC Cursor? It seems that NVDA+DELETE only gives the mouse pointer position.


And lastly, is it possible to get these position announcements in pixels instead of percentages of linear measurements?


Thank in advance.


NVDA's come such a long way, and I'm happy and proud to be a supporter thereof, both conceptually and financially.
Questions About Mouse Cursor Movement and Position

Steve Matzura
 

The audible position when the mouse cursor is routed is one of my favorite features of NVDA, but is it also possible to move the mouse cursor and pres a key that will give that same information at the mouse cursor's new position?


Also, what's the keystroke for getting the position of the PC Cursor? It seems that NVDA+DELETE only gives the mouse pointer position.


And lastly, is it possible to get these position announcements in pixels instead of percentages of linear measurements?


Thank in advance.


NVDA's come such a long way, and I'm happy and proud to be a supporter thereof, both conceptually and financially.
Re: microsoft edge saying loading compleat

Bobby Vinton <vinton.bobby5277@...>
 

good I will do that.

On 7/30/2020 4:55 PM, Luke Davis wrote:
The other thing you can probably do, is replace the phrase "loading complete" with nothing, in one of the pronunciation dictionaries.

Luke

On Thu, 30 Jul 2020, Bobby Vinton wrote:

Hay I am using the new Microsoft edge and I was wondering if you could stop nvda from saying loading compleat every time you open or going to a nother web page? Just let me know
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