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Re: Your First NVDA App Module: Session 0 posted, session 1 to be held on June 25, 2016 at NVDACon Korea TT server

蔡宗豪 Victor Cai
 

Hi,
Will speaker use voice (Nuance Samantha) for the course?


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Victor




2016-06-19 6:53 GMT+08:00, Joseph Lee <@joslee>:

Hi everyone,



Session 0 (overview) from Your First NVDA App Module course is now
available:

http://www.nvda-kr.org/files/nvdaAppMod0.mp3



Also, session 1 (app module introduction) will be held on June 25, 2016 at
11 AM Pacific (18:00 UTC) at NVDACon Korea TeamTalk Server (nvda-kr.org).
You need TT5 (be sure to install TT5 Classic client) and enter the
following
server information:



* URL: nvda-kr.org

* TCP: 10333

* UDP: 10333

* No username or password required.

* Channel will be root (nvdachat).



If you are interested in learning to write app modules, please think about
an app you feel an app module could be useful by session 1. For those who'd
like to use this opportunity as a stepping stone for contributing to NVDA
Core development, please checkout NVDA source code (git clone -recursive
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda) as we'll be using app modules in there as
examples. For people not interested in coding, don't worry - a backstage
tour will be provided to show you how app modules work behind the scenes.
For those who cannot make it, audio recordings of each session will be
provided shortly after the session ends.



P.S. If you know anyone in your language community who'd like to write app
modules, please feel free to invite them. Also, other app module experts
are
more than welcome to chime in their expertise during course sessions.



See you on June 25th.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: and firefox

Albert Ruel
 

In Firefox, try alt plus our to get to the navigation bar for saving your password.

Thx, Albert

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 22, 2016, at 5:58 PM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

Chris,

             This is a SWAG based on my experience with JAWS and IE, but when a notification bar such as the one you mention pops up in IE the command ALT+N throws focus to it.  Give that a try and see if it works in Firefox.  Either way, please report back on your finding.
--
Brian

I worry a lot. . . I worry that no matter how cynical you become it's never enough to keep up.

         ~ Trudy, in Jane Wagner's "Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe"

    



Re: Your First NVDA App Module: Session 0 posted, session 1 to be held on June 25, 2016 at NVDACon Korea TT server

Bob J
 

Got it, thanks!

Bob

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From: "Jacob Kruger" <jacob@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 4:00 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Your First NVDA App Module: Session 0 posted, session 1 to be held on June 25, 2016 at NVDACon Korea TT server


Empowermentzone.com was hacked a little while ago - here's a copy of the edSharp package from my site:
http://www.blindza.co.za/uploads/EdSharp_setup3.4.exe

And, yes, it's what I use for both python and PHP/JS, etc.

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, acceptance is versatile"

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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: 22 June, 2016 9:39 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Your First NVDA App Module: Session 0 posted, session 1 to be held on June 25, 2016 at NVDACon Korea TT server


Hi Cuong,

The link to EdSharp on this web page is not available. Is this due to a flaw
or how can I access the download?

-
All the best,

Cearbhall

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Manh Cuong
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 7:29 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Your First NVDA App Module: Session 0 posted, session 1
to be held on June 25, 2016 at NVDACon Korea TT server

Hi
For the program has indentation like Python or c sharp, I recommend EdSharp.

You can check it info and download at
http://www.freelists.org/webpage/edsharp
This quite accessible to screen reader, and you can check whether a line has
endation or not.
Hope that help.
Cuong
---------------
Dang Manh Cuong
The Assistive technology specialist
Sao Mai Vocational and assistive center for the blind
391 Lac Long Quan, ward 5, Dst 11, HCMC, Vietnam
Tel: +84862573309
E-mail: vanphong@...; congnghe@...
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob J" <rjustice004@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 7:10 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Your First NVDA App Module: Session 0 posted, session 1
to be held on June 25, 2016 at NVDACon Korea TT server


Hello Joseph,

I'm eager to learn how to generate add-ons for NVDA! I have
experience programming computer software using several programming
languages, but, no experience with Python. I have downloaded and
installed Python version
2.7 and I am currently working my way through the tutorial included
with that package. I see that code blocks are discriminated solely
through the indentation of code lines.

Can you recommend a text editor that is Python-friendly and accessable
with NVDA? BTW, I don't use Braille, if that makes a difference.

Another thing: When I went to

https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda

I was unable to figure out how to download NVDA source code (git clone
-recursive)

Do you have any suggestions?

T I A,

Bob


----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee" <@joslee>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2016 6:53 PM
Subject: [nvda] Your First NVDA App Module: Session 0 posted, session
1 to be held on June 25, 2016 at NVDACon Korea TT server


Hi everyone,



Session 0 (overview) from Your First NVDA App Module course is now
available:

http://www.nvda-kr.org/files/nvdaAppMod0.mp3



Also, session 1 (app module introduction) will be held on June 25,
2016 at
11 AM Pacific (18:00 UTC) at NVDACon Korea TeamTalk Server (nvda-kr.org).
You need TT5 (be sure to install TT5 Classic client) and enter the
following server information:



* URL: nvda-kr.org

* TCP: 10333

* UDP: 10333

* No username or password required.

* Channel will be root (nvdachat).



If you are interested in learning to write app modules, please think
about
an app you feel an app module could be useful by session 1. For those
who'd
like to use this opportunity as a stepping stone for contributing to NVDA
Core development, please checkout NVDA source code (git clone -recursive
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda) as we'll be using app modules in there
as
examples. For people not interested in coding, don't worry - a backstage
tour will be provided to show you how app modules work behind the scenes.
For those who cannot make it, audio recordings of each session will be
provided shortly after the session ends.



P.S. If you know anyone in your language community who'd like to write
app
modules, please feel free to invite them. Also, other app module experts
are
more than welcome to chime in their expertise during course sessions.



See you on June 25th.

Cheers,

Joseph


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Re: Your First NVDA App Module: Session 0 posted, session 1 to be held on June 25, 2016 at NVDACon Korea TT server

Bob J
 

Thanks! I'll check it out.

Bob

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dang Manh Cuong" <@cuongdang>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 2:28 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Your First NVDA App Module: Session 0 posted, session 1 to be held on June 25, 2016 at NVDACon Korea TT server


Hi
For the program has indentation like Python or c sharp, I recommend EdSharp. You can check it info and download at http://www.freelists.org/webpage/edsharp
This quite accessible to screen reader, and you can check whether a line has endation or not.
Hope that help.
Cuong
---------------
Dang Manh Cuong
The Assistive technology specialist
Sao Mai Vocational and assistive center for the blind
391 Lac Long Quan, ward 5, Dst 11, HCMC, Vietnam
Tel: +84862573309
E-mail: vanphong@...; congnghe@...
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/SaoMaiCenter
Website: http://www.trungtamsaomai.org; http://www.saomaicenter.org

Mobile / Zalo: +84 902-572-300
E-mail: @cuongdang; cuong@...
Yahoo! ID: manhcuong0312
Skype name: dangmanhcuong
facebook: http://facebook.com/dangmanhcuong
Twitter: @ManhCuongTech
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob J" <rjustice004@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 7:10 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Your First NVDA App Module: Session 0 posted, session 1 to be held on June 25, 2016 at NVDACon Korea TT server


Hello Joseph,

I'm eager to learn how to generate add-ons for NVDA! I have experience programming computer software using several programming languages, but, no experience with Python. I have downloaded and installed Python version 2.7 and I am currently working my way through the tutorial included with that package. I see that code blocks are discriminated solely through the indentation of code lines.

Can you recommend a text editor that is Python-friendly and accessable with NVDA? BTW, I don't use Braille, if that makes a difference.

Another thing: When I went to

https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda

I was unable to figure out how to download NVDA source code (git clone -recursive)

Do you have any suggestions?

T I A,

Bob


----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee" <@joslee>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2016 6:53 PM
Subject: [nvda] Your First NVDA App Module: Session 0 posted, session 1 to be held on June 25, 2016 at NVDACon Korea TT server


Hi everyone,



Session 0 (overview) from Your First NVDA App Module course is now
available:

http://www.nvda-kr.org/files/nvdaAppMod0.mp3



Also, session 1 (app module introduction) will be held on June 25, 2016 at
11 AM Pacific (18:00 UTC) at NVDACon Korea TeamTalk Server (nvda-kr.org).
You need TT5 (be sure to install TT5 Classic client) and enter the following
server information:



* URL: nvda-kr.org

* TCP: 10333

* UDP: 10333

* No username or password required.

* Channel will be root (nvdachat).



If you are interested in learning to write app modules, please think about
an app you feel an app module could be useful by session 1. For those who'd
like to use this opportunity as a stepping stone for contributing to NVDA
Core development, please checkout NVDA source code (git clone -recursive
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda) as we'll be using app modules in there as
examples. For people not interested in coding, don't worry - a backstage
tour will be provided to show you how app modules work behind the scenes.
For those who cannot make it, audio recordings of each session will be
provided shortly after the session ends.



P.S. If you know anyone in your language community who'd like to write app
modules, please feel free to invite them. Also, other app module experts are
more than welcome to chime in their expertise during course sessions.



See you on June 25th.

Cheers,

Joseph


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Re: and firefox

 

Chris,

             This is a SWAG based on my experience with JAWS and IE, but when a notification bar such as the one you mention pops up in IE the command ALT+N throws focus to it.  Give that a try and see if it works in Firefox.  Either way, please report back on your finding.
--
Brian

I worry a lot. . . I worry that no matter how cynical you become it's never enough to keep up.

         ~ Trudy, in Jane Wagner's "Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe"

    



Re: and firefox

Kenny Dog <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi


that message has not come up recently for me to do that but I think if I remember right it can be turned off under the security section in mozillla fire fox. You will need to look for the following called Remember logins for sites and uncheck it.


Just under that section will be onecalled saved log ins if you go into that section you can remove any from there as well. It is safer to type them in each time rather than save them Unless you have a really good password as in a master password you would want to have it really hard to break.

If this is the case check the master password one. I forgot to say it is under the tools....options section in mozilla fire fox.


I know I can get to that other part you were talking about, but I can not remember how at present.



Gene nz





On 23/06/2016 12:12 PM, Chris Shook via Groups.io wrote:
Hi,
I've been using firefox for the passed few weeks for most of my brousing. I have one question. How do you get to the alert toolbars? For example, the alert that asks if you want to save the password for this website?
Thanks
Chris


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and firefox

Chris Shook <cshook0309@...>
 

Hi,
I've been using firefox for the passed few weeks for most of my brousing. I have one question. How do you get to the alert toolbars? For example, the alert that asks if you want to save the password for this website?
Thanks
Chris


Re: Getting to web browser toolbar

Kenny Dog <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi Brian


I forgot to mention as well you can get to the location bar using the f6 key a couple of times as well. If you leave NVDA in simple mode under the review cursor  you can get to those buttons etc on one level, but if you turn it off to see more you might have to go up a level or 2 to find those same things.


On the numberic key pad when object navigation on the desktop use the NVDA key + the number 4 to go left, the nvda key + the number 6 to go right, the nvda key + the number 8 to go up a level and the nvda key + the number 2 to go down a level


There is also a add on called golden cursor that will get you to those areas and can be controled by the keyboard.


Gene nz



On 23/06/2016 10:31 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:

I feel like I'm beginning to lose my mind, but I know that I figured out how to get to the various buttons for extensions plus the menu button in Chrome and thought I posted about same.  I can get NVDA to throw focus to the Chrome Menu button by hitting ALT+F, and I can eventually get focus on the toolbar buttons between the address bar and the Menu Button playing around with the mouse, but there has to be a way to throw focus into that toolbar somehow, but I can't figure out how.  The buttons are announced accurately if I mouse-over or click on them, and the fact that I'm in a toolbar is mentioned, so this thing has to be accessible somehow.  If someone can point the way for me I would appreciate it.  If the technique is "generic" and applicable to other browsers I'd appreciate knowing that, too.

    
--
Brian

I worry a lot. . . I worry that no matter how cynical you become it's never enough to keep up.

         ~ Trudy, in Jane Wagner's "Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe"

    



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Re: Getting to web browser toolbar

Kenny Dog <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi Brian


Do you mean as in the back, forwards buttons etc there?


I just gave it a whirl to see if I could get to those areas and  not sure of any shortcuts as I use the keyboard only


I tried it with google chrome K and done the following. Pressed the CTRL key + the letter L to get to the location and search bar. When he stopped talking, I then used object navigation. I use a desktop pc so then went to the numeric keypad. Pressed the NVDA key and the number 1 on the numeric keypad to change into that mode it was spoken.


then I used the NVDA key + the number 4 on the numeric keypad to go to the left. I would hear home reload etc.

Under the review cursor settings in NVDA if the simple mode is unchecked it will let you see more in that area. you might have to poke around there  to find what you want but say if i wanted to activate a button i could use the nvda key + the enter key to do this.


Have you used object navigation before? If not all the commands can be found in the user manual under Brian


Just under that section it gives you more info onn the other modes NVDA can use. Depending which app you are using may depend which mode you might have to be in.


Gene nz



On 23/06/2016 10:31 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:

I feel like I'm beginning to lose my mind, but I know that I figured out how to get to the various buttons for extensions plus the menu button in Chrome and thought I posted about same.  I can get NVDA to throw focus to the Chrome Menu button by hitting ALT+F, and I can eventually get focus on the toolbar buttons between the address bar and the Menu Button playing around with the mouse, but there has to be a way to throw focus into that toolbar somehow, but I can't figure out how.  The buttons are announced accurately if I mouse-over or click on them, and the fact that I'm in a toolbar is mentioned, so this thing has to be accessible somehow.  If someone can point the way for me I would appreciate it.  If the technique is "generic" and applicable to other browsers I'd appreciate knowing that, too.

    
--
Brian

I worry a lot. . . I worry that no matter how cynical you become it's never enough to keep up.

         ~ Trudy, in Jane Wagner's "Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe"

    



-- 
Check out my website for nvda tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net


Getting to web browser toolbar

 

I feel like I'm beginning to lose my mind, but I know that I figured out how to get to the various buttons for extensions plus the menu button in Chrome and thought I posted about same.  I can get NVDA to throw focus to the Chrome Menu button by hitting ALT+F, and I can eventually get focus on the toolbar buttons between the address bar and the Menu Button playing around with the mouse, but there has to be a way to throw focus into that toolbar somehow, but I can't figure out how.  The buttons are announced accurately if I mouse-over or click on them, and the fact that I'm in a toolbar is mentioned, so this thing has to be accessible somehow.  If someone can point the way for me I would appreciate it.  If the technique is "generic" and applicable to other browsers I'd appreciate knowing that, too.

    
--
Brian

I worry a lot. . . I worry that no matter how cynical you become it's never enough to keep up.

         ~ Trudy, in Jane Wagner's "Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe"

    



Re: Your First NVDA App Module: Session 0 posted, session 1 to be held on June 25, 2016 at NVDACon Korea TT server

Scott VanDeWalle
 

ok thanks, i will give it a try.
I take it i find git on github.
smile


Re: Your First NVDA App Module: Session 0 posted, session 1 to be held on June 25, 2016 at NVDACon Korea TT server

 

Hi,
You'll need to download and install Git.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Scott
VanDeWalle
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 12:16 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Your First NVDA App Module: Session 0 posted, session 1
to be held on June 25, 2016 at NVDACon Korea TT server

And, git, is on the nvda github site?

Scott
Original message:
Hi,
From Command Prompt provided that you've got Git installed.
Cheers,
Joseph
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Scott VanDeWalle
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2016 6:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Your First NVDA App Module: Session 0 posted,
session 1 to be held on June 25, 2016 at NVDACon Korea TT server
where does one type that command from though Joseph, never did get
that part.smile.
Is it from the command prompt of windows, or from within python
itself, or what?

Original message:
Hi,
Editor: I personally use Notepad++.
Getting NVDA source code: Using Git:
git clone --recursive https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda The course
itself: the course will focus on app modules, a type of an add-on.
I'll briefly go over how to package add-ons, but not to a point where
it'll be the emphasis of the course.
Cheers,
Joseph
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Bob J
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2016 5:10 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Your First NVDA App Module: Session 0 posted,
session 1 to be held on June 25, 2016 at NVDACon Korea TT server
Hello Joseph,
I'm eager to learn how to generate add-ons for NVDA! I have
experience programming computer software using several programming
languages, but, no experience with Python. I have downloaded and
installed Python version 2.7 and I am currently working my way
through the tutorial included with that package. I see that code
blocks are discriminated solely through the indentation of code lines.
Can you recommend a text editor that is Python-friendly and
accessable with NVDA? BTW, I don't use Braille, if that makes a
difference.

Another thing: When I went to
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda
I was unable to figure out how to download NVDA source code (git
clone
-recursive)
Do you have any suggestions?
T I A,
Bob

----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee" <@joslee>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2016 6:53 PM
Subject: [nvda] Your First NVDA App Module: Session 0 posted, session
1 to be held on June 25, 2016 at NVDACon Korea TT server

Hi everyone,


Session 0 (overview) from Your First NVDA App Module course is now
available:
http://www.nvda-kr.org/files/nvdaAppMod0.mp3


Also, session 1 (app module introduction) will be held on June 25,
2016 at
11 AM Pacific (18:00 UTC) at NVDACon Korea TeamTalk Server
(nvda-kr.org).
You need TT5 (be sure to install TT5 Classic client) and enter the
following server information:


* URL: nvda-kr.org
* TCP: 10333
* UDP: 10333
* No username or password required.
* Channel will be root (nvdachat).


If you are interested in learning to write app modules, please think
about an app you feel an app module could be useful by session 1.
For those who'd like to use this opportunity as a stepping stone for
contributing to NVDA Core development, please checkout NVDA source
code (git clone -recursive
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda) as we'll be using app modules in
there as examples. For people not interested in coding, don't worry
- a backstage tour will be provided to show you how app modules work
behind the scenes.
For those who cannot make it, audio recordings of each session will
be provided shortly after the session ends.


P.S. If you know anyone in your language community who'd like to
write app modules, please feel free to invite them. Also, other app
module experts are more than welcome to chime in their expertise
during course sessions.


See you on June 25th.
Cheers,
Joseph



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Re: Your First NVDA App Module: Session 0 posted, session 1 to be held on June 25, 2016 at NVDACon Korea TT server

Scott VanDeWalle
 

And, git, is on the nvda github site?

Scott
Original message:

Hi,
From Command Prompt provided that you've got Git installed.
Cheers,
Joseph
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Scott
VanDeWalle
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2016 6:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Your First NVDA App Module: Session 0 posted, session 1
to be held on June 25, 2016 at NVDACon Korea TT server
where does one type that command from though Joseph, never did get that
part.smile.
Is it from the command prompt of windows, or from within python itself, or
what?

Original message:
Hi,
Editor: I personally use Notepad++.
Getting NVDA source code: Using Git:
git clone --recursive https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda The course
itself: the course will focus on app modules, a type of an add-on.
I'll briefly go over how to package add-ons, but not to a point where
it'll be the emphasis of the course.
Cheers,
Joseph
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Bob J
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2016 5:10 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Your First NVDA App Module: Session 0 posted,
session 1 to be held on June 25, 2016 at NVDACon Korea TT server
Hello Joseph,
I'm eager to learn how to generate add-ons for NVDA! I have
experience programming computer software using several programming
languages, but, no experience with Python. I have downloaded and
installed Python version 2.7 and I am currently working my way through
the tutorial included with that package. I see that code blocks are
discriminated solely through the indentation of code lines.
Can you recommend a text editor that is Python-friendly and accessable
with NVDA? BTW, I don't use Braille, if that makes a difference.
Another thing: When I went to
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda
I was unable to figure out how to download NVDA source code (git clone
-recursive)
Do you have any suggestions?
T I A,
Bob

----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee" <@joslee>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2016 6:53 PM
Subject: [nvda] Your First NVDA App Module: Session 0 posted, session
1 to be held on June 25, 2016 at NVDACon Korea TT server

Hi everyone,


Session 0 (overview) from Your First NVDA App Module course is now
available:
http://www.nvda-kr.org/files/nvdaAppMod0.mp3


Also, session 1 (app module introduction) will be held on June 25,
2016 at
11 AM Pacific (18:00 UTC) at NVDACon Korea TeamTalk Server (nvda-kr.org).
You need TT5 (be sure to install TT5 Classic client) and enter the
following server information:


* URL: nvda-kr.org
* TCP: 10333
* UDP: 10333
* No username or password required.
* Channel will be root (nvdachat).


If you are interested in learning to write app modules, please think
about an app you feel an app module could be useful by session 1. For
those who'd like to use this opportunity as a stepping stone for
contributing to NVDA Core development, please checkout NVDA source
code (git clone -recursive
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda) as we'll be using app modules in
there as examples. For people not interested in coding, don't worry -
a backstage tour will be provided to show you how app modules work
behind the scenes.
For those who cannot make it, audio recordings of each session will
be provided shortly after the session ends.


P.S. If you know anyone in your language community who'd like to
write app modules, please feel free to invite them. Also, other app
module experts are more than welcome to chime in their expertise
during course sessions.


See you on June 25th.
Cheers,
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Re: A strange one.

Michel Such
 

Hi Brian,


I already noticed this, but with LibreOffice.

In Libreoffice, I got rid of the problem by modifying an option.

They have some feature they call "smooth scrollong" that must be unchecked.

Sorry, not sure that "smooth scrolling" is the wording in English, since my version is in French.

Don't know if the same kind of feature exists with Word.



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Le 2016-06-22 à 16:55, Brian's Mail list account a écrit :
Has anyone else found that nvda creates som oddities when its been running for a while?
In Word, at page breaks in focus mode you find it won't go down or up past the page break depending on which side you are, unless you restart nvda, which puts word into the non active window, so when you get it back all is good again till an hour or so later on. I'm sure it never used to do this before. this ins in the next branch in windows 7, but it does not seem to be a matter of operating system. I'm using an older version of word with the old menus, so really I'd need somebody with a newer version to see if this happens. Occasionally getting to the top of a document throws an alarm error ding but not looked into this yet so thought I'd just place this out there in case.
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Has anyone else found that nvda creates som oddities when its been running for a while?
In Word, at page breaks in focus mode you find it won't go down or up past the page break depending on which side you are, unless you restart nvda, which puts word into the non active window, so when you get it back all is good again till an hour or so later on. I'm sure it never used to do this before. this ins in the next branch in windows 7, but it does not seem to be a matter of operating system. I'm using an older version of word with the old menus, so really I'd need somebody with a newer version to see if this happens. Occasionally getting to the top of a document throws an alarm error ding but not looked into this yet so thought I'd just place this out there in case.
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Re: NVDA and WLM

Rui Fontes
 

Confirmed with Windows 7 and Windows 10.

It is not a bug from the last version of NVDA, but a very old bug...

Regards,

Rui


-----Mensagem Original-----
De: Brian Crabtree
Data: quarta-feira, 22 de junho de 2016 15:27
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: [nvda] NVDA and WLM


I have read the messages so far on the problems with NVDA incorrectly
reporting WLM navigation on Windows 10 and would like to add the following,
which may serve as clarification for other affected users and for the Devs
to track down the problem. Hopefully this is not already common knowledge.

There seem to be 2 issues, although an error does not always occur and there
is inconsistency in what NVDA says, even if working on the same message
twice:

1. in a new message or when forwarding a message without an attachment, when
you hit Tab after entering an addressee and a Subject, the focus is not on
the message text box - it seems to me that the focus goes to an assumed
attachment, even when there is no attachment, and hitting Tab again restores
normal operation.

2. in a reply, what is spoken is the "To" box instead of focus being on the
message text box. Pressing Tab to navigate is ineffective (it actually adds
tabs to the message text). You can input text, but text editing is
impossible, with NVDA saying only "blank" - normal operation is restored by
using Alt plus Tab to go away from the reply, then again to return to it.

In a little more detail, I think I can suggest ways of detecting the
likelihood of an error, until a real fix is found:

in a new or forwarded message (CTRL plus N or CTRL plus F), insert the
recipient, press Enter to voice the selection, tab to the Subject box and
type the topic, tab to what should be the message text box, if NVDA says
"document editable, blank" all should be fine, but if it says "pane,
document editable, blank", the insertion point sits in the message text box
for about a second, before disappearing and subsequent typing is lost. The
word "pane" is the indicator that typed text will not go into the message
box, so an extra Tab is required.
when replying to a message (CTRL plus R), NVDA says either "window, note,
window, window, to, edit" or "document, pane, to, edit" followed by the
recipient's details, as if the focus is on the To box. In fact, the
insertion point is in the message text box, typing does go into the message
box and Tab inserts 4 spaces into the message text box, so is no good for
navigating. Now, on trying to edit the text, although backspace does remove
a character, NVDA just says "blank" (and you cannot proof read the whole
message, because Caps Lock + L reads the To box contents, not the message
box contents). The solution here is to press ALT plus TAB to go out and
again to go back before being able to work on the message - this works
either before or after starting to type into the message text box.
on forwarding a message with an attachment, at the first Tab after the
Subject box, NVDA voices the attachment name, in case you want to delete it,
and the final tab takes you to the message text box - i.e. that works fine.
just occasionally, NVDA opens a message window and stays silent - it is
simplest to use ALT plus Tab to go away and then back, which should resolve
the issue.
for the Devs, I should reiterate that NVDA seems entirely random in what it
says and sometimes repeats parts of the window heading or the "To, edit,
type recipient name..." announcement, although sometimes it omits "type
recipient name....". It also says random things like "window, note, window,
window" which I have not heard before.

I hope that helps in some way. Brian Crabtree
I was testing on an up to date Windows 10 system with the latest version of
NVDA and Windows Live Mail 2012.


NVDA and WLM

Brian Crabtree <briancrabtree@...>
 

I have read the messages so far on the problems with NVDA incorrectly reporting WLM navigation on Windows 10 and would like to add the following, which may serve as clarification for other affected users and for the Devs to track down the problem. Hopefully this is not already common knowledge.
 
There seem to be 2 issues, although an error does not always occur and there is inconsistency in what NVDA says, even if working on the same message twice:
 
1. in a new message or when forwarding a message without an attachment, when you hit Tab after entering an addressee and a Subject, the focus is not on the message text box – it seems to me that the focus goes to an assumed attachment, even when there is no attachment, and hitting Tab again restores normal operation.
 
2. in a reply, what is spoken is the “To” box instead of focus being on the message text box. Pressing Tab to navigate is ineffective (it actually adds tabs to the message text). You can input text, but text editing is impossible, with NVDA saying only “blank” – normal operation is restored by using Alt plus Tab to go away from the reply, then again to return to it.
 
In a little more detail, I think I can suggest ways of detecting the likelihood of an error, until a real fix is found:
  • in a new or forwarded message (CTRL plus N or CTRL plus F), insert the recipient, press Enter to voice the selection, tab to the Subject box and type the topic, tab to what should be the message text box, if NVDA says “document editable, blank” all should be fine, but if it says  “pane, document editable, blank”, the insertion point sits in the message text box for about a second, before disappearing and subsequent typing is lost. The word “pane” is the indicator that typed text will not go into the message box, so an extra Tab is required.
  • when replying to a message (CTRL plus R), NVDA says either “window, note, window, window, to, edit” or “document, pane, to, edit” followed by the recipient’s details, as if the focus is on the To box. In fact, the insertion point is in the message text box, typing does go into the message box and Tab inserts 4 spaces into the message text box, so is no good for navigating. Now, on trying to edit the text, although backspace does remove a character, NVDA just says “blank” (and you cannot proof read the whole message, because Caps Lock + L reads the To box contents, not the message box contents). The solution here is to press ALT plus TAB to go out and again to go back before being able to work on the message – this works either before or after starting to type into the message text box.
  • on forwarding a message with an attachment, at the first Tab after the Subject box, NVDA voices the attachment name, in case you want to delete it, and the final tab takes you to the message text box – i.e. that works fine.
  • just occasionally, NVDA opens a message window and stays silent – it is simplest to use ALT plus Tab to go away and then back, which should resolve the issue.
  • for the Devs, I should reiterate that NVDA seems entirely random in what it says and sometimes repeats parts of the window heading or the “To, edit, type recipient name...”  announcement, although sometimes it omits “type recipient name....”. It also says random things like “window, note, window, window” which I have not heard before.
I hope that helps in some way. Brian Crabtree
I was testing on an up to date Windows 10 system with the latest version of NVDA and Windows Live Mail 2012.


Re: Your First NVDA App Module: Session 0 posted, session 1 to be held on June 25, 2016 at NVDACon Korea TT server

Cearbhall O'Meadhra
 

Thanks Jacob,

That worked fine for me!

All the best,

Cearbhall

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Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 9:00 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Your First NVDA App Module: Session 0 posted, session 1
to be held on June 25, 2016 at NVDACon Korea TT server

Empowermentzone.com was hacked a little while ago - here's a copy of the
edSharp package from my site:
http://www.blindza.co.za/uploads/EdSharp_setup3.4.exe

And, yes, it's what I use for both python and PHP/JS, etc.

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: 22 June, 2016 9:39 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Your First NVDA App Module: Session 0 posted, session 1
to be held on June 25, 2016 at NVDACon Korea TT server


Hi Cuong,

The link to EdSharp on this web page is not available. Is this due to
a flaw or how can I access the download?

-
All the best,

Cearbhall

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Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 7:29 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Your First NVDA App Module: Session 0 posted,
session
1
to be held on June 25, 2016 at NVDACon Korea TT server

Hi
For the program has indentation like Python or c sharp, I recommend
EdSharp.

You can check it info and download at
http://www.freelists.org/webpage/edsharp
This quite accessible to screen reader, and you can check whether a
line has endation or not.
Hope that help.
Cuong
---------------
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The Assistive technology specialist
Sao Mai Vocational and assistive center for the blind
391 Lac Long Quan, ward 5, Dst 11, HCMC, Vietnam
Tel: +84862573309
E-mail: vanphong@...; congnghe@...
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From: "Bob J" <rjustice004@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 7:10 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Your First NVDA App Module: Session 0 posted,
session
1
to be held on June 25, 2016 at NVDACon Korea TT server


Hello Joseph,

I'm eager to learn how to generate add-ons for NVDA! I have
experience programming computer software using several programming
languages, but, no experience with Python. I have downloaded and
installed Python version
2.7 and I am currently working my way through the tutorial included
with that package. I see that code blocks are discriminated solely
through the indentation of code lines.

Can you recommend a text editor that is Python-friendly and
accessable with NVDA? BTW, I don't use Braille, if that makes a
difference.

Another thing: When I went to

https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda

I was unable to figure out how to download NVDA source code (git
clone
-recursive)

Do you have any suggestions?

T I A,

Bob


----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee" <@joslee>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2016 6:53 PM
Subject: [nvda] Your First NVDA App Module: Session 0 posted, session
1 to be held on June 25, 2016 at NVDACon Korea TT server


Hi everyone,



Session 0 (overview) from Your First NVDA App Module course is now
available:

http://www.nvda-kr.org/files/nvdaAppMod0.mp3



Also, session 1 (app module introduction) will be held on June 25,
2016 at
11 AM Pacific (18:00 UTC) at NVDACon Korea TeamTalk Server
(nvda-kr.org).
You need TT5 (be sure to install TT5 Classic client) and enter the
following server information:



* URL: nvda-kr.org

* TCP: 10333

* UDP: 10333

* No username or password required.

* Channel will be root (nvdachat).



If you are interested in learning to write app modules, please think
about an app you feel an app module could be useful by session 1.
For those who'd like to use this opportunity as a stepping stone for
contributing to NVDA Core development, please checkout NVDA source
code (git clone -recursive
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda) as we'll be using app modules in
there as examples. For people not interested in coding, don't worry
- a backstage tour will be provided to show you how app modules work
behind the scenes.
For those who cannot make it, audio recordings of each session will
be provided shortly after the session ends.



P.S. If you know anyone in your language community who'd like to
write app modules, please feel free to invite them. Also, other app
module experts are more than welcome to chime in their expertise
during course sessions.



See you on June 25th.

Cheers,

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Re: Your First NVDA App Module: Session 0 posted, session 1 to be held on June 25, 2016 at NVDACon Korea TT server

Jacob Kruger
 

Empowermentzone.com was hacked a little while ago - here's a copy of the edSharp package from my site:
http://www.blindza.co.za/uploads/EdSharp_setup3.4.exe

And, yes, it's what I use for both python and PHP/JS, etc.

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, acceptance is versatile"

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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: 22 June, 2016 9:39 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Your First NVDA App Module: Session 0 posted, session 1 to be held on June 25, 2016 at NVDACon Korea TT server


Hi Cuong,

The link to EdSharp on this web page is not available. Is this due to a flaw
or how can I access the download?

-
All the best,

Cearbhall

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Manh Cuong
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 7:29 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Your First NVDA App Module: Session 0 posted, session 1
to be held on June 25, 2016 at NVDACon Korea TT server

Hi
For the program has indentation like Python or c sharp, I recommend EdSharp.

You can check it info and download at
http://www.freelists.org/webpage/edsharp
This quite accessible to screen reader, and you can check whether a line has
endation or not.
Hope that help.
Cuong
---------------
Dang Manh Cuong
The Assistive technology specialist
Sao Mai Vocational and assistive center for the blind
391 Lac Long Quan, ward 5, Dst 11, HCMC, Vietnam
Tel: +84862573309
E-mail: vanphong@...; congnghe@...
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/SaoMaiCenter
Website: http://www.trungtamsaomai.org; http://www.saomaicenter.org

Mobile / Zalo: +84 902-572-300
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob J" <rjustice004@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 7:10 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Your First NVDA App Module: Session 0 posted, session 1
to be held on June 25, 2016 at NVDACon Korea TT server


Hello Joseph,

I'm eager to learn how to generate add-ons for NVDA! I have
experience programming computer software using several programming
languages, but, no experience with Python. I have downloaded and
installed Python version
2.7 and I am currently working my way through the tutorial included
with that package. I see that code blocks are discriminated solely
through the indentation of code lines.

Can you recommend a text editor that is Python-friendly and accessable
with NVDA? BTW, I don't use Braille, if that makes a difference.

Another thing: When I went to

https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda

I was unable to figure out how to download NVDA source code (git clone
-recursive)

Do you have any suggestions?

T I A,

Bob


----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee" <@joslee>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2016 6:53 PM
Subject: [nvda] Your First NVDA App Module: Session 0 posted, session
1 to be held on June 25, 2016 at NVDACon Korea TT server


Hi everyone,



Session 0 (overview) from Your First NVDA App Module course is now
available:

http://www.nvda-kr.org/files/nvdaAppMod0.mp3



Also, session 1 (app module introduction) will be held on June 25,
2016 at
11 AM Pacific (18:00 UTC) at NVDACon Korea TeamTalk Server (nvda-kr.org).
You need TT5 (be sure to install TT5 Classic client) and enter the
following server information:



* URL: nvda-kr.org

* TCP: 10333

* UDP: 10333

* No username or password required.

* Channel will be root (nvdachat).



If you are interested in learning to write app modules, please think
about
an app you feel an app module could be useful by session 1. For those
who'd
like to use this opportunity as a stepping stone for contributing to NVDA
Core development, please checkout NVDA source code (git clone -recursive
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda) as we'll be using app modules in there
as
examples. For people not interested in coding, don't worry - a backstage
tour will be provided to show you how app modules work behind the scenes.
For those who cannot make it, audio recordings of each session will be
provided shortly after the session ends.



P.S. If you know anyone in your language community who'd like to write
app
modules, please feel free to invite them. Also, other app module experts
are
more than welcome to chime in their expertise during course sessions.



See you on June 25th.

Cheers,

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Re: Your First NVDA App Module: Session 0 posted, session 1 to be held on June 25, 2016 at NVDACon Korea TT server

 

Hi
I don't know the reason, so I share my EdSharp here: https://www.sendspace.com/file/r8n3vo
Cuong
---------------
Dang Manh Cuong
The Assistive technology specialist
Sao Mai Vocational and assistive center for the blind
391 Lac Long Quan, ward 5, Dst 11, HCMC, Vietnam
Tel: +84862573309
E-mail: vanphong@...; congnghe@...
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/SaoMaiCenter
Website: http://www.trungtamsaomai.org; http://www.saomaicenter.org

Mobile / Zalo: +84 902-572-300
E-mail: @cuongdang; cuong@...
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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 2:39 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Your First NVDA App Module: Session 0 posted, session 1 to be held on June 25, 2016 at NVDACon Korea TT server


Hi Cuong,

The link to EdSharp on this web page is not available. Is this due to a flaw
or how can I access the download?

-
All the best,

Cearbhall

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Manh Cuong
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 7:29 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Your First NVDA App Module: Session 0 posted, session 1
to be held on June 25, 2016 at NVDACon Korea TT server

Hi
For the program has indentation like Python or c sharp, I recommend EdSharp.

You can check it info and download at
http://www.freelists.org/webpage/edsharp
This quite accessible to screen reader, and you can check whether a line has
endation or not.
Hope that help.
Cuong
---------------
Dang Manh Cuong
The Assistive technology specialist
Sao Mai Vocational and assistive center for the blind
391 Lac Long Quan, ward 5, Dst 11, HCMC, Vietnam
Tel: +84862573309
E-mail: vanphong@...; congnghe@...
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/SaoMaiCenter
Website: http://www.trungtamsaomai.org; http://www.saomaicenter.org

Mobile / Zalo: +84 902-572-300
E-mail: @cuongdang; cuong@... Yahoo! ID:
manhcuong0312 Skype name: dangmanhcuong
facebook: http://facebook.com/dangmanhcuong
Twitter: @ManhCuongTech
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob J" <rjustice004@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 7:10 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Your First NVDA App Module: Session 0 posted, session 1
to be held on June 25, 2016 at NVDACon Korea TT server


Hello Joseph,

I'm eager to learn how to generate add-ons for NVDA! I have
experience programming computer software using several programming
languages, but, no experience with Python. I have downloaded and
installed Python version
2.7 and I am currently working my way through the tutorial included
with that package. I see that code blocks are discriminated solely
through the indentation of code lines.

Can you recommend a text editor that is Python-friendly and accessable
with NVDA? BTW, I don't use Braille, if that makes a difference.

Another thing: When I went to

https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda

I was unable to figure out how to download NVDA source code (git clone
-recursive)

Do you have any suggestions?

T I A,

Bob


----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee" <@joslee>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2016 6:53 PM
Subject: [nvda] Your First NVDA App Module: Session 0 posted, session
1 to be held on June 25, 2016 at NVDACon Korea TT server


Hi everyone,



Session 0 (overview) from Your First NVDA App Module course is now
available:

http://www.nvda-kr.org/files/nvdaAppMod0.mp3



Also, session 1 (app module introduction) will be held on June 25,
2016 at
11 AM Pacific (18:00 UTC) at NVDACon Korea TeamTalk Server (nvda-kr.org).
You need TT5 (be sure to install TT5 Classic client) and enter the
following server information:



* URL: nvda-kr.org

* TCP: 10333

* UDP: 10333

* No username or password required.

* Channel will be root (nvdachat).



If you are interested in learning to write app modules, please think
about
an app you feel an app module could be useful by session 1. For those
who'd
like to use this opportunity as a stepping stone for contributing to NVDA
Core development, please checkout NVDA source code (git clone -recursive
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda) as we'll be using app modules in there
as
examples. For people not interested in coding, don't worry - a backstage
tour will be provided to show you how app modules work behind the scenes.
For those who cannot make it, audio recordings of each session will be
provided shortly after the session ends.



P.S. If you know anyone in your language community who'd like to write
app
modules, please feel free to invite them. Also, other app module experts
are
more than welcome to chime in their expertise during course sessions.



See you on June 25th.

Cheers,

Joseph


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