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Re: Pasting problems in Word 2010

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Brian,

I must admit I was in the habit too for a few years of copying things (particularly off the web) into Notepad and then copying again into Word when I wanted plain text.

I have found copying things into word, pressing paste then control then t seems to give me what I want in the same situations though and is that little bit easier once you get used to it.

Bhavya,

You are right, it may well be worth giving more indication when pasting.

One other thing I meant to mention, when you paste into Word, if you do want to do something immediately afterward that involves control, after you paste your text, press escape and that gets rid of that "control" prompt popup in that instance (it still appears next time you paste something).

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 12:05 AM, Bhavya shah <bhavya.shah125@...> wrote:
Hi Quentin,
Sure, it was really confusing and boggling. Now that the problem is
fully resolved, I no longer am affected by it. But, this may be an
aspect where NVDA may require improvement, because considering the
rareness of Ctrl as a keystroke may make it an information unknown to
many, and thus an issue... However, if there haven't been reports
indicative of such confusion, then perhaps, NVDA is great in its
current state. Just thinking...
Thanks all the same for all the help, I am a happy camper now!

On 6/19/16, Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...> wrote:
> I have to say I've taken to pasting stuff into a notepad and then cutting
> and pasting from there to avoid some of the weird effects. I suspect that
> word used  its own clipboard and its tthe translation between the normal and
>
> word and back that can end in some odd effects.
> Brian
>
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bhavya shah" <bhavya.shah125@...>
> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2016 11:14 AM
> Subject: Re: [nvda] Pasting problems in Word 2010
>
>
>> Hi Quentin,
>> Thanks for the detailed explanation. All was as you described it, and
>> the issue seems to be resolved.
>> Thanks a ton again!
>>
>> On 6/18/16, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:
>>> Hi Bhavya,
>>>
>>> When you paste something into word, by default it keeps its original
>>> style,
>>> which, if you're copying something from one part of a document to
>>> another,
>>> is almost certainly what you want.  If you are copying from a web page
>>> or
>>> somewhere else you might want to convert to plain text or something
>>> else.
>>>
>>> In any case, when you paste something, a little hover icon thing appears
>>> and if you press CONTROL, that expands and you can choose the pasting
>>> style
>>> you want (the most common one I tend to use is control, then t (note you
>>> can't do it as one keystroke, you need to press control, let go then
>>> press
>>> t) to paste as plain text.
>>>
>>> So yes, if the next thing you do after pasting is something that
>>> involves
>>> control, it looks like that gets grabbed by the paste options.
>>>
>>> I don't have Word 2010 in front of me just at the minute, but in Word
>>> 2016
>>> at least, if you go into options then "advanced" there is a cut and
>>> paste
>>> section and one of the options (it's alt+o but might be safer to tab to
>>> it
>>> just in case) is "Show paste options button when content is pasted".  If
>>> you uncheck that, you won't get that control issue.
>>>
>>> If you do that, you can still get to the extra paste options by going to
>>> the paste option in the ribbon.
>>>
>>> Kind regards
>>>
>>> Quentin.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jun 18, 2016 at 7:04 PM, Bhavya shah <bhavya.shah125@...>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear all,
>>>> In Microsoft Word 2010, one of the most annoying problems I am facing
>>>> is the constant reminder to choose the pasting style whenever I paste
>>>> something from a part of the document to another. If I arrow around,
>>>> then this doesn't appear, but only when I Ctrl + up/down arrow to
>>>> navigate by paragraphs.
>>>> I tried choosing default paste this time form the two options given
>>>> but in the Advanced Word Settings dialog it popped up too, I found all
>>>> types of pasting situations having already set default pasting
>>>> settings.
>>>> This gets very cumbersome when I need to navigate often by the pasted
>>>> section of text, as this pasting menu suddenly appears and obstructs
>>>> my path temporarily.
>>>> I would sincerely appreciate any assistance.
>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Warm Regards
>>>> Bhavya Shah
>>>> Using NVDA (Non Visual Desktop Access) free and open source screen
>>>> reader for Microsoft Windows
>>>> To download a copy of the free screen reader NVDA, please visit
>>>> http://www.nvaccess.org/
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>>>> Reach me through the following means:
>>>> Mobile: +91 7506221750
>>>> E-mail id: bhavya.shah125@...
>>>> Skype id : bhavya.09
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> Training Material Developer
>>> Ph +61 7 3149 3306
>>> Direct: +61 413 904 383
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>>> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
>>> Twitter: @NVAccess
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Warm Regards
>> Bhavya Shah
>> Using NVDA (Non Visual Desktop Access) free and open source screen
>> reader for Microsoft Windows
>> To download a copy of the free screen reader NVDA, please visit
>> http://www.nvaccess.org/
>> Using Google Talkback on Motorolla G second generation Lollipop 5.0.2
>> Reach me through the following means:
>> Mobile: +91 7506221750
>> E-mail id: bhavya.shah125@...
>> Skype id : bhavya.09
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>


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Warm Regards
Bhavya Shah
Using NVDA (Non Visual Desktop Access) free and open source screen
reader for Microsoft Windows
To download a copy of the free screen reader NVDA, please visit
http://www.nvaccess.org/
Using Google Talkback on Motorolla G second generation Lollipop 5.0.2
Reach me through the following means:
Mobile: +91 7506221750
E-mail id: bhavya.shah125@...
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Re: Have I found an NVDA bug?

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Brian,

You are correct, this is a bug.  It's a problem with the Start Menu itself and unfortunately there isn't much NVDA can do about it at this point aside from raise it with Microsoft (which we have done previously).  It seems to be one of those things that has worked in some builds and not in others.  I am running the latest insider build on one machine and it isn't even reading search results, let alone context menu items for search results on that machine, but on my other machine which is running the latest stable (not insider) build of Windows 10, it does read not only search results but also context menu items for them.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 4:38 AM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

Hello All,

          I am leaving the topic intentionally broad because I hope this thread might become a repository for "possible bug" identification before doing a formal report.

          When I hit WinKey and then type "Command Prompt" the search results show the Command Prompt desktop app as the first returned result and already selected.  Were I to hit enter at that moment a Command Prompt would open, but that's not what is wanted since the window needs to be run elevated as administrator.  If I hit the SHIFT+F10/Applications/Context Menu key rather than enter I am immediately presented with a 4-item context menu, which has no default focus on any item, but the fact that it is there is not announced so unless you can see it you'd have no way of knowing.  If you down arrow once to get to the first item NVDA begins announcing as usual.

          I am presuming that the lack of some announcement regarding the actual presentation of a context menu is a bug, but I want to be sure about that before reporting it, and to ask advice from those who've done this many times how to categorize it on github if it is, indeed, a bug.
--
Brian

I worry a lot. . . I worry that no matter how cynical you become it's never enough to keep up.

         ~ Trudy, in Jane Wagner's "Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe"

    





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Re: Hi

Chris Shook <cshook0309@...>
 

Hi Angela,
My name is Chris, it's nice to meet you.


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Re: Your First NVDA App Module: Session 0 posted, session 1 to be held on June 25, 2016 at NVDACon Korea TT server

Scott VanDeWalle
 

Hello Joseph and all.
Even though i will probably not be able to make it to the live sessions, even though I will try when i can, I will deffinately download the sessions for later use.
I lost interested in programming for a little, and i still don't know, but i'm going to give it another shot.
This time if i don't stay with it, i guess its not something that is for me.
Just thought I'd tell you though that i'll give it another try.

later
Scott
Original message:

Hi everyone,
Session 0 (overview) from Your First NVDA App Module course is now available:
http://www.nvda-kr.org/files/nvdaAppMod0.mp3 <http://www.nvda-kr.org/files/nvdaAppMod0.mp3>
Also, session 1 (app module introduction) will be held on June 25, 2016 at 11 AM Pacific (18:00 UTC) at NVDACon Korea TeamTalk Server (nvda-kr.org). You need TT5 (be sure to install TT5 Classic client) and enter the following server information:

* · URL: nvda-kr.org
* · TCP: 10333
* · UDP: 10333
* · No username or password required.
* · Channel will be root (nvdachat).
If you are interested in learning to write app modules, please think about an app you feel an app module could be useful by session 1. For those who’d like to use this opportunity as a stepping stone for contributing to NVDA Core development, please checkout NVDA source code (git clone –recursive https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda <https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda>) as we’ll be using app modules in there as examples. For people not interested in coding, don’t worry – a backstage tour will be provided to show you how app modules work behind the scenes. For those who cannot make it, audio recordings of each session will be provided shortly after the session ends.
P.S. If you know anyone in your language community who’d like to write app modules, please feel free to invite them. Also, other app module experts are more than welcome to chime in their expertise during course sessions.
See you on June 25th.
Cheers,
Joseph
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Re: Have I found an NVDA bug?

 

Hi Brian,

Announcing number of items: it’ll take some time to traverse through the context menu, writing down items that are selectable (excluding items with certain states).

In case of Windows 10 Start context menu: Yet another UIA bug/assumption: UI Automation says it’s a list when it clearly isn’t. Thankfully, it has a unique UIA Automation ID, so I can do some further research into what can be done about this weird UIA server implementation. I’d rather put this fix in an add-on for now to let people try it safely, and then put this into core.

For resident programmers: when you are dealing with Windows 10, you need to note several things:

·         Universal apps and many parts of Start menu are UIA universes.

·         Microsoft is known for not following established specifications, and Mick Curran, Jamie Teh, I and other developers are quite unhappy about it. For instance, certain dialogs are clearly dialogs contrary to UIA which reports them as windows (one of them is the new style UAC dialog present in Windows 10 Anniversary Update, for which I wrote a routine to handle it and is currently lined up as a pull request).

·         When you support Edge controls, you are opening up possibilities for certain controls, as they are powered by EdgeHTML.

·         We cannot add app modules for universal apps to NVDA Core due to ever-changing nature of software thanks to introduction of software as a service (it works, it breaks the next day, a fix is provided from NVDA devs, app developers fixes it from their side a few weeks later). Hence, it is better to provide app modules for such apps as add-ons unless app developers are willing to test their apps for accessibility. As noted earlier, these apps are UIA universes, so familiarity with certain UIA concepts is a must, and traditional methods of weeding out an object (obj.windowClassName) will not work because they have the same class name (you need to probe UIA-specific attributes such as automation ID, UIA class name, framework ID and so on). A particular issue was when browse mode for Edge broke in one of the earlier Redstone Insider builds – turns out MS has changed the framework ID for Edge, and it took Mick a few days to cook up a fix for it. I’ll talk about UIA issues during one of the sessions for app module creation course when I talk about overlay classes.

·         A few days ago, I sent an announcement saying that a try build for Redstone builds is ready for public testing. I did this for an important reason: continuous refinements and responses. That is, the traditional method of waiting a few weeks to get a problem fixed will not work anymore in the new software as a service model, and I’m afraid all screen readers are not prepared for it. It’ll get more interesting once Microsoft kicks off Redstone 2 development this fall/spring (Redstone 1 is almost done), with RS2 Insider builds to come out shortly after Anniversary Update (Version 1607) hits the air. Hence try build releases for Insider build issues will be more frequent, and I’m hoping that we can get more developers and users onboard to help out with this effort.

Hope this helps.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2016 11:52 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Have I found an NVDA bug?

 

Joseph,

           Yes, this is under Windows 10 and using the latest update of NVDA.  I really appreciate your having looked into this and so promptly!!

           I ask the following not to be picky or nasty, but for clarity's sake on my end:  Why would this be a behavior that is addressed by an Add-On?  [And don't get me wrong, I'm grateful if it is addressed there as well.]  I would presume that if a context menu appears, and no item is selected in that context (no pun intended), that any screen reader should announce something like, "Context menu containing X items," or just simply, "Context menu presented," so that the user would know that they could begin traversing it with the arrow keys.

            If this is not a Windows 10 bug, and it's likely that this sort of context menu presentation might be prevalent, if not 100% consistent, it would make sense for screen readers to handle it gracefully in their native code.

Brian
--
Brian

I worry a lot. . . I worry that no matter how cynical you become it's never enough to keep up.

         ~ Trudy, in Jane Wagner's "Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe"

    

 


Re: Have I found an NVDA bug?

 

Joseph,

           Yes, this is under Windows 10 and using the latest update of NVDA.  I really appreciate your having looked into this and so promptly!!

           I ask the following not to be picky or nasty, but for clarity's sake on my end:  Why would this be a behavior that is addressed by an Add-On?  [And don't get me wrong, I'm grateful if it is addressed there as well.]  I would presume that if a context menu appears, and no item is selected in that context (no pun intended), that any screen reader should announce something like, "Context menu containing X items," or just simply, "Context menu presented," so that the user would know that they could begin traversing it with the arrow keys.

            If this is not a Windows 10 bug, and it's likely that this sort of context menu presentation might be prevalent, if not 100% consistent, it would make sense for screen readers to handle it gracefully in their native code.

Brian
--
Brian

I worry a lot. . . I worry that no matter how cynical you become it's never enough to keep up.

         ~ Trudy, in Jane Wagner's "Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe"

    



Re: Have I found an NVDA bug?

 

Hi Brian,

This is the case for other context menus except some that do announce first item (the latter is the case for context menus shown in the midst of composing a message in Outlook 2013).

If this is specific to Windows 10 (as I was able to confirm this), I’ll look into this for WinTenApps 16.07.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2016 11:38 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Have I found an NVDA bug?

 

Hello All,

          I am leaving the topic intentionally broad because I hope this thread might become a repository for "possible bug" identification before doing a formal report.

          When I hit WinKey and then type "Command Prompt" the search results show the Command Prompt desktop app as the first returned result and already selected.  Were I to hit enter at that moment a Command Prompt would open, but that's not what is wanted since the window needs to be run elevated as administrator.  If I hit the SHIFT+F10/Applications/Context Menu key rather than enter I am immediately presented with a 4-item context menu, which has no default focus on any item, but the fact that it is there is not announced so unless you can see it you'd have no way of knowing.  If you down arrow once to get to the first item NVDA begins announcing as usual.

          I am presuming that the lack of some announcement regarding the actual presentation of a context menu is a bug, but I want to be sure about that before reporting it, and to ask advice from those who've done this many times how to categorize it on github if it is, indeed, a bug.
--
Brian

I worry a lot. . . I worry that no matter how cynical you become it's never enough to keep up.

         ~ Trudy, in Jane Wagner's "Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe"

    

 


Have I found an NVDA bug?

 

Hello All,

          I am leaving the topic intentionally broad because I hope this thread might become a repository for "possible bug" identification before doing a formal report.

          When I hit WinKey and then type "Command Prompt" the search results show the Command Prompt desktop app as the first returned result and already selected.  Were I to hit enter at that moment a Command Prompt would open, but that's not what is wanted since the window needs to be run elevated as administrator.  If I hit the SHIFT+F10/Applications/Context Menu key rather than enter I am immediately presented with a 4-item context menu, which has no default focus on any item, but the fact that it is there is not announced so unless you can see it you'd have no way of knowing.  If you down arrow once to get to the first item NVDA begins announcing as usual.

          I am presuming that the lack of some announcement regarding the actual presentation of a context menu is a bug, but I want to be sure about that before reporting it, and to ask advice from those who've done this many times how to categorize it on github if it is, indeed, a bug.
--
Brian

I worry a lot. . . I worry that no matter how cynical you become it's never enough to keep up.

         ~ Trudy, in Jane Wagner's "Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe"

    



Re: Your First NVDA App Module: Session 0 posted, session 1 to be held on June 25, 2016 at NVDACon Korea TT server

 

Hi,
I see. In this case, I'm out of ideas.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bob J
Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2016 10:33 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Your First NVDA App Module: Session 0 posted, session 1
to be held on June 25, 2016 at NVDACon Korea TT server

Joseph,

I'm using I E 8 on WinXPPro.

Bob


----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee" <@joslee>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2016 1:00 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Your First NVDA App Module: Session 0 posted, session 1
to be held on June 25, 2016 at NVDACon Korea TT server


Hi,
That's odd... Which browser are you using? If it doesn't work, try
http instead.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Bob J
Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2016 9:51 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Your First NVDA App Module: Session 0 posted,
session
1
to be held on June 25, 2016 at NVDACon Korea TT server

Joseph,

The link

https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda

is not working for me.

What's up with that?

Bob


----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee" <@joslee>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2016 6:53 PM
Subject: [nvda] Your First NVDA App Module: Session 0 posted, session
1 to be held on June 25, 2016 at NVDACon Korea TT server


Hi everyone,



Session 0 (overview) from Your First NVDA App Module course is now
available:

http://www.nvda-kr.org/files/nvdaAppMod0.mp3



Also, session 1 (app module introduction) will be held on June 25,
2016 at
11 AM Pacific (18:00 UTC) at NVDACon Korea TeamTalk Server (nvda-kr.org).
You need TT5 (be sure to install TT5 Classic client) and enter the
following server information:



* URL: nvda-kr.org

* TCP: 10333

* UDP: 10333

* No username or password required.

* Channel will be root (nvdachat).



If you are interested in learning to write app modules, please think
about an app you feel an app module could be useful by session 1. For
those who'd like to use this opportunity as a stepping stone for
contributing to NVDA Core development, please checkout NVDA source
code (git clone -recursive
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda) as we'll be using app modules in
there as examples. For people not interested in coding, don't worry -
a backstage tour will be provided to show you how app modules work
behind the scenes.
For those who cannot make it, audio recordings of each session will
be provided shortly after the session ends.



P.S. If you know anyone in your language community who'd like to
write app modules, please feel free to invite them. Also, other app
module experts are more than welcome to chime in their expertise
during course sessions.



See you on June 25th.

Cheers,

Joseph


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Re: Your First NVDA App Module: Session 0 posted, session 1 to be held on June 25, 2016 at NVDACon Korea TT server

Bob J
 

Joseph,

I'm using I E 8 on WinXPPro.

Bob

----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee" <@joslee>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2016 1:00 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Your First NVDA App Module: Session 0 posted, session 1 to be held on June 25, 2016 at NVDACon Korea TT server


Hi,
That's odd... Which browser are you using? If it doesn't work, try http
instead.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bob J
Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2016 9:51 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Your First NVDA App Module: Session 0 posted, session 1
to be held on June 25, 2016 at NVDACon Korea TT server

Joseph,

The link

https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda

is not working for me.

What's up with that?

Bob


----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee" <@joslee>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2016 6:53 PM
Subject: [nvda] Your First NVDA App Module: Session 0 posted, session 1 to
be held on June 25, 2016 at NVDACon Korea TT server


Hi everyone,



Session 0 (overview) from Your First NVDA App Module course is now
available:

http://www.nvda-kr.org/files/nvdaAppMod0.mp3



Also, session 1 (app module introduction) will be held on June 25,
2016 at
11 AM Pacific (18:00 UTC) at NVDACon Korea TeamTalk Server (nvda-kr.org).
You need TT5 (be sure to install TT5 Classic client) and enter the
following server information:



* URL: nvda-kr.org

* TCP: 10333

* UDP: 10333

* No username or password required.

* Channel will be root (nvdachat).



If you are interested in learning to write app modules, please think
about an app you feel an app module could be useful by session 1. For
those who'd like to use this opportunity as a stepping stone for
contributing to NVDA Core development, please checkout NVDA source
code (git clone -recursive
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda) as we'll be using app modules in
there as examples. For people not interested in coding, don't worry -
a backstage tour will be provided to show you how app modules work
behind the scenes.
For those who cannot make it, audio recordings of each session will be
provided shortly after the session ends.



P.S. If you know anyone in your language community who'd like to write
app modules, please feel free to invite them. Also, other app module
experts are more than welcome to chime in their expertise during
course sessions.



See you on June 25th.

Cheers,

Joseph


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Re: Your First NVDA App Module: Session 0 posted, session 1 to be held on June 25, 2016 at NVDACon Korea TT server

 

Hi,
That's odd... Which browser are you using? If it doesn't work, try http
instead.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bob J
Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2016 9:51 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Your First NVDA App Module: Session 0 posted, session 1
to be held on June 25, 2016 at NVDACon Korea TT server

Joseph,

The link

https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda

is not working for me.

What's up with that?

Bob


----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee" <@joslee>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2016 6:53 PM
Subject: [nvda] Your First NVDA App Module: Session 0 posted, session 1 to
be held on June 25, 2016 at NVDACon Korea TT server


Hi everyone,



Session 0 (overview) from Your First NVDA App Module course is now
available:

http://www.nvda-kr.org/files/nvdaAppMod0.mp3



Also, session 1 (app module introduction) will be held on June 25,
2016 at
11 AM Pacific (18:00 UTC) at NVDACon Korea TeamTalk Server (nvda-kr.org).
You need TT5 (be sure to install TT5 Classic client) and enter the
following server information:



* URL: nvda-kr.org

* TCP: 10333

* UDP: 10333

* No username or password required.

* Channel will be root (nvdachat).



If you are interested in learning to write app modules, please think
about an app you feel an app module could be useful by session 1. For
those who'd like to use this opportunity as a stepping stone for
contributing to NVDA Core development, please checkout NVDA source
code (git clone -recursive
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda) as we'll be using app modules in
there as examples. For people not interested in coding, don't worry -
a backstage tour will be provided to show you how app modules work
behind the scenes.
For those who cannot make it, audio recordings of each session will be
provided shortly after the session ends.



P.S. If you know anyone in your language community who'd like to write
app modules, please feel free to invite them. Also, other app module
experts are more than welcome to chime in their expertise during
course sessions.



See you on June 25th.

Cheers,

Joseph


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Re: Your First NVDA App Module: Session 0 posted, session 1 to be held on June 25, 2016 at NVDACon Korea TT server

Bob J
 

Joseph,

The link

https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda

is not working for me.

What's up with that?

Bob

----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee" <@joslee>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2016 6:53 PM
Subject: [nvda] Your First NVDA App Module: Session 0 posted, session 1 to be held on June 25, 2016 at NVDACon Korea TT server


Hi everyone,



Session 0 (overview) from Your First NVDA App Module course is now
available:

http://www.nvda-kr.org/files/nvdaAppMod0.mp3



Also, session 1 (app module introduction) will be held on June 25, 2016 at
11 AM Pacific (18:00 UTC) at NVDACon Korea TeamTalk Server (nvda-kr.org).
You need TT5 (be sure to install TT5 Classic client) and enter the following
server information:



* URL: nvda-kr.org

* TCP: 10333

* UDP: 10333

* No username or password required.

* Channel will be root (nvdachat).



If you are interested in learning to write app modules, please think about
an app you feel an app module could be useful by session 1. For those who'd
like to use this opportunity as a stepping stone for contributing to NVDA
Core development, please checkout NVDA source code (git clone -recursive
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda) as we'll be using app modules in there as
examples. For people not interested in coding, don't worry - a backstage
tour will be provided to show you how app modules work behind the scenes.
For those who cannot make it, audio recordings of each session will be
provided shortly after the session ends.



P.S. If you know anyone in your language community who'd like to write app
modules, please feel free to invite them. Also, other app module experts are
more than welcome to chime in their expertise during course sessions.



See you on June 25th.

Cheers,

Joseph


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Re: Pasting problems in Word 2010

Bhavya shah
 

Hi Quentin,
Sure, it was really confusing and boggling. Now that the problem is
fully resolved, I no longer am affected by it. But, this may be an
aspect where NVDA may require improvement, because considering the
rareness of Ctrl as a keystroke may make it an information unknown to
many, and thus an issue... However, if there haven't been reports
indicative of such confusion, then perhaps, NVDA is great in its
current state. Just thinking...
Thanks all the same for all the help, I am a happy camper now!

On 6/19/16, Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...> wrote:
I have to say I've taken to pasting stuff into a notepad and then cutting
and pasting from there to avoid some of the weird effects. I suspect that
word used its own clipboard and its tthe translation between the normal and

word and back that can end in some odd effects.
Brian

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From: "Bhavya shah" <bhavya.shah125@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2016 11:14 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Pasting problems in Word 2010


Hi Quentin,
Thanks for the detailed explanation. All was as you described it, and
the issue seems to be resolved.
Thanks a ton again!

On 6/18/16, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:
Hi Bhavya,

When you paste something into word, by default it keeps its original
style,
which, if you're copying something from one part of a document to
another,
is almost certainly what you want. If you are copying from a web page
or
somewhere else you might want to convert to plain text or something
else.

In any case, when you paste something, a little hover icon thing appears
and if you press CONTROL, that expands and you can choose the pasting
style
you want (the most common one I tend to use is control, then t (note you
can't do it as one keystroke, you need to press control, let go then
press
t) to paste as plain text.

So yes, if the next thing you do after pasting is something that
involves
control, it looks like that gets grabbed by the paste options.

I don't have Word 2010 in front of me just at the minute, but in Word
2016
at least, if you go into options then "advanced" there is a cut and
paste
section and one of the options (it's alt+o but might be safer to tab to
it
just in case) is "Show paste options button when content is pasted". If
you uncheck that, you won't get that control issue.

If you do that, you can still get to the extra paste options by going to
the paste option in the ribbon.

Kind regards

Quentin.


On Sat, Jun 18, 2016 at 7:04 PM, Bhavya shah <bhavya.shah125@...>
wrote:

Dear all,
In Microsoft Word 2010, one of the most annoying problems I am facing
is the constant reminder to choose the pasting style whenever I paste
something from a part of the document to another. If I arrow around,
then this doesn't appear, but only when I Ctrl + up/down arrow to
navigate by paragraphs.
I tried choosing default paste this time form the two options given
but in the Advanced Word Settings dialog it popped up too, I found all
types of pasting situations having already set default pasting
settings.
This gets very cumbersome when I need to navigate often by the pasted
section of text, as this pasting menu suddenly appears and obstructs
my path temporarily.
I would sincerely appreciate any assistance.
Thanks.

--
Warm Regards
Bhavya Shah
Using NVDA (Non Visual Desktop Access) free and open source screen
reader for Microsoft Windows
To download a copy of the free screen reader NVDA, please visit
http://www.nvaccess.org/
Using Google Talkback on Motorolla G second generation Lollipop 5.0.2
Reach me through the following means:
Mobile: +91 7506221750
E-mail id: bhavya.shah125@...
Skype id : bhavya.09




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Training Material Developer
Ph +61 7 3149 3306
Direct: +61 413 904 383
www.nvaccess.org
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess

--
Warm Regards
Bhavya Shah
Using NVDA (Non Visual Desktop Access) free and open source screen
reader for Microsoft Windows
To download a copy of the free screen reader NVDA, please visit
http://www.nvaccess.org/
Using Google Talkback on Motorolla G second generation Lollipop 5.0.2
Reach me through the following means:
Mobile: +91 7506221750
E-mail id: bhavya.shah125@...
Skype id : bhavya.09





--
Warm Regards
Bhavya Shah
Using NVDA (Non Visual Desktop Access) free and open source screen
reader for Microsoft Windows
To download a copy of the free screen reader NVDA, please visit
http://www.nvaccess.org/
Using Google Talkback on Motorolla G second generation Lollipop 5.0.2
Reach me through the following means:
Mobile: +91 7506221750
E-mail id: bhavya.shah125@...
Skype id : bhavya.09


Re: windows insider mouse error Version 1607 (OS Build 14366.0)

Brian's Mail list account BY <bglists@...>
 

Would be btter posted to the dev list I'd guess, as not many here wuse insider builds.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Oriol Gómez" <ogomez.s92@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2016 2:19 PM
Subject: [nvda] windows insider mouse error Version 1607 (OS Build 14366.0)


hi all,
On the latest insider build there is a problem with NVDA, the mouse
will not move, so you can't access many things including parts of
websites with any browser etc.
Is this a known issue?
How can we fix it? This happens using the latest master snapshot.
ARe the devs aware of this?

On 6/18/16, Lauren Merryfield <lauren@...> wrote:
Hi,

How do you rename a folder/file? Using windows ten and office 365.

Thanks,

Lauren



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Re: Pasting problems in Word 2010

Brian's Mail list account BY <bglists@...>
 

I have to say I've taken to pasting stuff into a notepad and then cutting and pasting from there to avoid some of the weird effects. I suspect that word used its own clipboard and its tthe translation between the normal and word and back that can end in some odd effects.
Brian

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in the display name field.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bhavya shah" <bhavya.shah125@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2016 11:14 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Pasting problems in Word 2010


Hi Quentin,
Thanks for the detailed explanation. All was as you described it, and
the issue seems to be resolved.
Thanks a ton again!

On 6/18/16, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:
Hi Bhavya,

When you paste something into word, by default it keeps its original style,
which, if you're copying something from one part of a document to another,
is almost certainly what you want. If you are copying from a web page or
somewhere else you might want to convert to plain text or something else.

In any case, when you paste something, a little hover icon thing appears
and if you press CONTROL, that expands and you can choose the pasting style
you want (the most common one I tend to use is control, then t (note you
can't do it as one keystroke, you need to press control, let go then press
t) to paste as plain text.

So yes, if the next thing you do after pasting is something that involves
control, it looks like that gets grabbed by the paste options.

I don't have Word 2010 in front of me just at the minute, but in Word 2016
at least, if you go into options then "advanced" there is a cut and paste
section and one of the options (it's alt+o but might be safer to tab to it
just in case) is "Show paste options button when content is pasted". If
you uncheck that, you won't get that control issue.

If you do that, you can still get to the extra paste options by going to
the paste option in the ribbon.

Kind regards

Quentin.


On Sat, Jun 18, 2016 at 7:04 PM, Bhavya shah <bhavya.shah125@...>
wrote:

Dear all,
In Microsoft Word 2010, one of the most annoying problems I am facing
is the constant reminder to choose the pasting style whenever I paste
something from a part of the document to another. If I arrow around,
then this doesn't appear, but only when I Ctrl + up/down arrow to
navigate by paragraphs.
I tried choosing default paste this time form the two options given
but in the Advanced Word Settings dialog it popped up too, I found all
types of pasting situations having already set default pasting
settings.
This gets very cumbersome when I need to navigate often by the pasted
section of text, as this pasting menu suddenly appears and obstructs
my path temporarily.
I would sincerely appreciate any assistance.
Thanks.

--
Warm Regards
Bhavya Shah
Using NVDA (Non Visual Desktop Access) free and open source screen
reader for Microsoft Windows
To download a copy of the free screen reader NVDA, please visit
http://www.nvaccess.org/
Using Google Talkback on Motorolla G second generation Lollipop 5.0.2
Reach me through the following means:
Mobile: +91 7506221750
E-mail id: bhavya.shah125@...
Skype id : bhavya.09




--
Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer
Ph +61 7 3149 3306
Direct: +61 413 904 383
www.nvaccess.org
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess

--
Warm Regards
Bhavya Shah
Using NVDA (Non Visual Desktop Access) free and open source screen
reader for Microsoft Windows
To download a copy of the free screen reader NVDA, please visit
http://www.nvaccess.org/
Using Google Talkback on Motorolla G second generation Lollipop 5.0.2
Reach me through the following means:
Mobile: +91 7506221750
E-mail id: bhavya.shah125@...
Skype id : bhavya.09


Re: Blogging with NVDA

Marco Oros
 

I've written to You, that Firefox is the best choice.
I thing also to the Wiciwig editor in the Wordpress, because this is more difficult to work with It on Google chrome. Otherwise, You'll haveto learn a HTML code and switch writing option at Wordpress i n the Firefox to the text editor.
Maybe text editor is the best choice, but great is to know HTML in this way to stylize text and adding links.
But, ofcourse, this is only mine personal experience.


Re: Blogging with NVDA

Quentin Christensen
 

It is definitely worth having a couple of browsers available.  While most people have a preference, everyone now and then, you may come across a website which just doesn't work with that browser for some reason.

As others have noted, NVDA works very well with Firefox, and still works very well with Internet Explorer.  Microsoft have said that they will keep the latest version of Internet Explorer up to date at least with security patches etc, although most people would assume that the lions share of development and new features will be directed to Edge.  IE is still included with Windows 10 for those on that platform, it's just not widely advertised by Microsoft - open the start menu and start typing Internet and you should find it first or second in the results.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Sun, Jun 19, 2016 at 2:51 PM, Semirhage <severus13@...> wrote:
So it seems between Chrome and fire fox then. Kinda nervous about both but I've got to jump in and work with one. Do you guys have preferences? I heard fire fox is better with messengers, but I want to work with blogs first I think.
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Re: Blogging with NVDA

Semirhage
 


LOL I don't fear change as much as fear the frustration when things don't work right and I don't know what to do with it. I am comfortable when things work. But with technology moving it has to be done.
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Re: Blogging with NVDA

Gene
 

I don't know anything about how Internet Explorer or the other browsers work with what you want to do.  I'm just saying in general that to try another browser in general might benefit you.
 
Others may have specific comments about whether this or that browser works better with this or that web site activiby, such as what you are asking about.  If you just ask list members in general which browser they like most among the three you are discussing they will probably tell you they like Firefox in general.  But I consider trying another browser as a way to. I hope, help you lose your fear of change.  That, to me, is as or more important than what you actually want to do.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Semirhage
Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2016 11:51 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Blogging with NVDA

So it seems between Chrome and fire fox then. Kinda nervous about both but I've got to jump in and work with one. Do you guys have preferences? I heard fire fox is better with messengers, but I want to work with blogs first I think.
Sem
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I get along with the voices inside of my head.

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