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Re: Software Uninstallers

Kevin Cussick
 

have you tried anything else from this site?

On 09/08/2016 06:16, Afrim wrote:
I'm glad it works for you Kevin, I may post a short review on the group to introduce it to people.

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 8, 2016, at 11:19 PM, Kevin Cussick via Groups.io <the.big.white.shepherd=googlemail.com@groups.io> wrote:

thanks very much this even beats the other program that I recommended, thanks again.

On 08/08/2016 21:14, Kevin Cussick via Groups.is wrote:
Yes please this would be good is it free or not? thanks in advance.

On 08/08/2016 05:59, Afrim wrote:
Hello,
I personally use Uninstaller from Puran Utilities, which is the most
accessible uninstaller I've ever seen.
If you'd like, I could give a link.

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 7, 2016, at 4:20 PM, Carlos <gmjc341961@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello All!

Thank You! To everyone who suggested Bulk Crap Uninstaller as a
replacement for REVO Uninstaller.

Bulk Crap Uninstaller works great with NVDA! So, all who are not
happy with REVO can go ahead and say goodbye to REVO and use Bulk
Crap Uninstaller!

Thank You! To all who responded to the REVO is Inaccessible thread
and gave suggestions about better uninstaller software!



--
Carlos Gonzalez - Los Angeles, CA. - gmjc341961@gmail.com


A problem with the accessible page of Gameday Audio in Firefox 48

Lino Morales
 

Hi all. I've got a minor problem. I don't know if any of you on this list have a subscription to MLB Gameday Audio, but in FF 48 I can't move my arrow keys or tab to read the rest of the page once you start playing a game. When I hit the up or down arrow all I get is the URL read. I don't know if this is a flaw in FF 48 or not. I am running master branch of NVDA. If anyone is running NVDA 2016.2 and can play with this that would be great. I figured I'd post about this here before posing the same question to the Firefox support list. Thanks.


NVDA update problem

David
 

Hi,

I am using NVDA Snapshots, Next branch. Every time I try to update NVDA, I get an error. I was thinking of uninstalling NVDA and reinstalling it to see if it fixes the problem but that would mean I would have to reinstall all my add-ons.

Does anybody else have issues updating NVDA?

I



David


Re: Problem with NVDA and UAC dialogs after Anniversary Update

Gene
 

Then the problem isn't the yes button being disabled evidently.  But the level of UAC when a program is installed should have no bearing on how it functions in a program if you change it.  UAC is a completely independent feature.  You are setting it to notify you according to different conditions UAC can look for, not anything having to do with any specific program.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2016 11:02 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problem with NVDA and UAC dialogs after Anniversary Update

Hi Gene

In my case NVDA read those dialogs; in fact I heard them so many times,
I almost couldn't handle it anymore. Both the Yes and No buttons were
present, plus a link for more information and another link to change
notification levels. Unfortunately all these controls just made the
dialog loop again.

Kind regards

Christo


On 2016/08/09 5:54 PM, Gene wrote:
> No, that theory isn't correct.  You probably have the problem I wrote about in my earlier messages, but I don't know that.  There is some sort of problem that I wrote about earlier.  It causes the yes button to be disabled in UAC.  I don't know if that is your problem because I don't know if you have successfully used UAC in other contexts but the initial UAC setting is not the cause of this problem.
>
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Christo de Klerk
> Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2016 10:32 AM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] Problem with NVDA and UAC dialogs after Anniversary Update
>
>
> I have a theory as to what caused this very strange problem I
> experienced. I think the UAC security level at the time when NVDA is
> installed, determines how NVDA and UAC will interface. Let me try and
> explain what I mean with actual examples. On my desktop the security
> level is and was 34 when I installed NVDA. NVDA works well, it starts up
> fine, no problem, except that it doesn't read the content of the UAC
> dialog when permission is requested for something. If I then type alt+y
> for yes, all is fine.
>
> On my laptop things are different. The security level was set to 0 when
> I installed NVDA. At that level NVDA worked identically as the one on my
> desktop. I then pushed up the security level on my laptop to 34. Now,
> whenever NVDA was launched, UAC requested permission, but Alt+y did the
> trick. Next I moved the level up to 67 and all hell broke loose.
>
> It seems, therefore, to get NVDA on my laptop to operate properly, I
> must uninstall it, then shift up UAC level to 67 and then reinstall NVDA
> at that level.
>
> I hope this makes sense. This is how things look to me.
>
> Kind regards
>
> Christo
>
>
> On 2016/08/09 4:47 PM, Gene wrote:
>> The original message specifically states that whether yes or no is used, NVDA doesn't run and it's a loop that cannot be gotten out of.  It appears that this occcurs before anything else can be done.  I wonder if yes is even available in the UAC dialog?  Some people have a problem in Windows 10 where the yes button disappears from the UAC dialog.  If that is true, the problem is not an NVDA problem but some sort of Windows problem.  There is a web site that gives what is claimed to be a fix for this, which, I believe, involves running in Safe Mode.  I don't know how effective this is.  I've seen this discussed on another list.
>>
>> To find information do an Internet search for something like no yes button UAC dialog Windows 10
>>
>> I won't provide a specific link because I don't know how many results there are or which might be the best.
>>
>> Gene
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> From: Jacob Kruger
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2016 3:08 AM
>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>> Subject: Re: [nvda] Problem with NVDA and UAC dialogs after Anniversary Update
>>
>>
>> To try fire up narrator, are you using the windows key + enter key
>> combo? Ask since while it's been a while since had anything to do with
>> it, and probably also depends on where/when UAC is coming up, I did
>> manage to work around it at least once, quite a while ago like that - as
>> in UAC came up, but, under normal windows operation mode, I hit windows
>> key + enter, and it could read the UAC dialogue, to allow me to allow
>> something else to happen, and then turn off UAC.
>>
>>
>> Good luck
>>
>>
>> Jacob Kruger
>> Blind Biker
>> Skype: BlindZA
>> "Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."
>>
>> On 2016-08-09 9:24 AM, Christo de Klerk wrote:
>>> Hi Joseph
>>>
>>> I can't, because I can't do anything on that computer; the UAC dialog
>>> is there all the time, I can't get it out of the way. I can run
>>> Narrator, but I still can't get around the UAC dialog. It must be a
>>> modal window that one cannot get rid of.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Christo
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2016/08/09 9:03 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>> Hmmm... Let's try this: download latest snapshot again, then run
>>>> Narrator and try installing NVDA while Narrator is running.
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Joseph
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
>>>> Christo de Klerk
>>>> Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 11:58 PM
>>>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>>>> Subject: [nvda] Problem with NVDA and UAC dialogs after Anniversary
>>>> Update
>>>>
>>>> Hello Joseph
>>>>
>>>> Ok, I brought the conversation to this list and I have copied our
>>>> correspondence below for your reference.
>>>>
>>>> In response to your question, yes, it is an installed copy of the
>>>> latest snapshot of NVDA. My problem is that, when I start up the
>>>> laptop, it automatically tries to run NVDA and then goes into this
>>>> loop; it doesn't matter if I respond with Yes or No. This means I
>>>> can't get to do anything on the machine. I thought that, if I could
>>>> at least get into the File Explorer, I could delete the NVDA
>>>> executable, so that it can't try to open. My goodness, this is such a
>>>> mess; I hope you have some advice for me.
>>>>
>>>> Kind regards
>>>>
>>>> Christo
>>>>
>>>> Correspondence below:
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>> This is odd indeed...
>>>> Is this with an installed copy of NVDA? If so, this should not cause
>>>> issues you've described. Sounds like NVDA is trying to run the
>>>> installer without realizing that it's already installed (that's one
>>>> possibility).
>>>> If you don't mind, let's talk about this on the NVDA mailing list.
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Joseph
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf
>>>> Of Christo de Klerk
>>>> Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 12:17 PM
>>>> To: win10@win10.groups.io
>>>> Subject: Re: [win10] After Anniversary Update NVDA no longer reads
>>>> UAC pop-up dialogs
>>>>
>>>> Joseph
>>>>
>>>> On my laptop I now moved the level up to 2 (67%), but I got myself
>>>> into a strange and very serious situation. When NVDA starts, the UAC
>>>> dialog pops up and it is spoken, but I can't get out of it. Whether I
>>>> press Yes or No, the dialog keeps coming back. It goes into a loop
>>>> and I can't do anything else on my computer. I can't even close NVDA
>>>> to get Narrator up to change the UAC level. The dialog keeps coming
>>>> back all the time. The computer is absolutely unusable. Do you have
>>>> any idea how I can get out of the loop and get to the place where I
>>>> can bring down the UAC level again. I really have no idea what to do.
>>>> Please help. I hope you can.
>>>>
>>>> Kind regards
>>>>
>>>> Christo
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 2016/08/08 8:53 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>> As for why UAC keeps asking for permission whenever NVDA runs, I
>>>> don't know.
>>>> As for UAC not reading properly if level is set to 1: this is a known
>>>> problem. NV Access is aware of this issue as we speak.
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Joseph
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf
>>>> Of Christo de Klerk
>>>> Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 11:47 AM
>>>> To: win10@win10.groups.io
>>>> Subject: Re: [win10] After Anniversary Update NVDA no longer reads
>>>> UAC pop-up dialogs
>>>>
>>>> Hi Joseph
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for the response. It makes sense then. I will change the
>>>> level and try again. On my desktop the level is 1 (33%). On my laptop
>>>> the level is 0 (0%). I had it on 33%, but for some reason then, every
>>>> time NVDA started, the UAC dialog popped up requesting permission, so
>>>> I dragged it down to 0% and that issue went away. Do you have any
>>>> idea why this was happening?
>>>>
>>>> Thank you so much for always being ready to assist.
>>>>
>>>> Kind regards
>>>>
>>>> Christo
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 2016/08/08 8:35 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>> For those experiencing this problem: what is your UAC level set to?
>>>> To find out, go to Control Panel/User Accounts/change User Account
>>>> Control Settings and you should see a slider. In order for UAC fix to
>>>> work correctly, UAC level must be set to level 2 (67%) or higher.
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Joseph
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf
>>>> Of Christo de Klerk
>>>> Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 6:40 AM
>>>> To: win10@win10.groups.io
>>>> Subject: Re: [win10] After Anniversary Update NVDA no longer reads
>>>> UAC pop-up dialogs
>>>>
>>>> Hi Joseph
>>>>
>>>> I am glad this matter is receiving attention, but I have to say that
>>>> I am using the latest snapshot and it is definitely not reading the
>>>> content of the UAC dialogs. I am using Version: next-13485,10f249e8.
>>>>
>>>> Kind regards
>>>>
>>>> Christo
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 2016/08/08 10:12 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>> Ah yes, it was a pleasure to investigate this issue a few weeks ago.
>>>> Fix included as part of 2016.3 (latest master and next snapshots
>>>> contains the fix).
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Joseph
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf
>>>> Of Christo de Klerk
>>>> Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 1:02 AM
>>>> To: win10@win10.groups.io
>>>> Subject: [win10] After Anniversary Update NVDA no longer reads UAC
>>>> pop-up dialogs
>>>>
>>>> Hello all
>>>>
>>>> I have noticed on both my computers that after the Anniversary Update
>>>> NVDA no longer speak the User Access Control dialogs which pop up to
>>>> ask your permission to do certain things. I know one can simply type
>>>> Alt+y for yes or Alt+n for no, but one never knows what else might be
>>>> shown in such a pop-up. Dos anyone know of a fix for this?
>>>>
>>>> Kind regards
>>>>
>>>> Christo
>>>>
>>>>
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Re: Problem with NVDA and UAC dialogs after Anniversary Update

Christo de Klerk
 

Hi Gene

In my case NVDA read those dialogs; in fact I heard them so many times, I almost couldn't handle it anymore. Both the Yes and No buttons were present, plus a link for more information and another link to change notification levels. Unfortunately all these controls just made the dialog loop again.

Kind regards

Christo

On 2016/08/09 5:54 PM, Gene wrote:
No, that theory isn't correct. You probably have the problem I wrote about in my earlier messages, but I don't know that. There is some sort of problem that I wrote about earlier. It causes the yes button to be disabled in UAC. I don't know if that is your problem because I don't know if you have successfully used UAC in other contexts but the initial UAC setting is not the cause of this problem.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Christo de Klerk
Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2016 10:32 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problem with NVDA and UAC dialogs after Anniversary Update


I have a theory as to what caused this very strange problem I
experienced. I think the UAC security level at the time when NVDA is
installed, determines how NVDA and UAC will interface. Let me try and
explain what I mean with actual examples. On my desktop the security
level is and was 34 when I installed NVDA. NVDA works well, it starts up
fine, no problem, except that it doesn't read the content of the UAC
dialog when permission is requested for something. If I then type alt+y
for yes, all is fine.

On my laptop things are different. The security level was set to 0 when
I installed NVDA. At that level NVDA worked identically as the one on my
desktop. I then pushed up the security level on my laptop to 34. Now,
whenever NVDA was launched, UAC requested permission, but Alt+y did the
trick. Next I moved the level up to 67 and all hell broke loose.

It seems, therefore, to get NVDA on my laptop to operate properly, I
must uninstall it, then shift up UAC level to 67 and then reinstall NVDA
at that level.

I hope this makes sense. This is how things look to me.

Kind regards

Christo


On 2016/08/09 4:47 PM, Gene wrote:
The original message specifically states that whether yes or no is used, NVDA doesn't run and it's a loop that cannot be gotten out of. It appears that this occcurs before anything else can be done. I wonder if yes is even available in the UAC dialog? Some people have a problem in Windows 10 where the yes button disappears from the UAC dialog. If that is true, the problem is not an NVDA problem but some sort of Windows problem. There is a web site that gives what is claimed to be a fix for this, which, I believe, involves running in Safe Mode. I don't know how effective this is. I've seen this discussed on another list.

To find information do an Internet search for something like no yes button UAC dialog Windows 10

I won't provide a specific link because I don't know how many results there are or which might be the best.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Jacob Kruger
Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2016 3:08 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problem with NVDA and UAC dialogs after Anniversary Update


To try fire up narrator, are you using the windows key + enter key
combo? Ask since while it's been a while since had anything to do with
it, and probably also depends on where/when UAC is coming up, I did
manage to work around it at least once, quite a while ago like that - as
in UAC came up, but, under normal windows operation mode, I hit windows
key + enter, and it could read the UAC dialogue, to allow me to allow
something else to happen, and then turn off UAC.


Good luck


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2016-08-09 9:24 AM, Christo de Klerk wrote:
Hi Joseph

I can't, because I can't do anything on that computer; the UAC dialog
is there all the time, I can't get it out of the way. I can run
Narrator, but I still can't get around the UAC dialog. It must be a
modal window that one cannot get rid of.

Regards

Christo


On 2016/08/09 9:03 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
Hmmm... Let's try this: download latest snapshot again, then run
Narrator and try installing NVDA while Narrator is running.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Christo de Klerk
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 11:58 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Problem with NVDA and UAC dialogs after Anniversary
Update

Hello Joseph

Ok, I brought the conversation to this list and I have copied our
correspondence below for your reference.

In response to your question, yes, it is an installed copy of the
latest snapshot of NVDA. My problem is that, when I start up the
laptop, it automatically tries to run NVDA and then goes into this
loop; it doesn't matter if I respond with Yes or No. This means I
can't get to do anything on the machine. I thought that, if I could
at least get into the File Explorer, I could delete the NVDA
executable, so that it can't try to open. My goodness, this is such a
mess; I hope you have some advice for me.

Kind regards

Christo

Correspondence below:

Hi,
This is odd indeed...
Is this with an installed copy of NVDA? If so, this should not cause
issues you've described. Sounds like NVDA is trying to run the
installer without realizing that it's already installed (that's one
possibility).
If you don't mind, let's talk about this on the NVDA mailing list.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf
Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 12:17 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] After Anniversary Update NVDA no longer reads
UAC pop-up dialogs

Joseph

On my laptop I now moved the level up to 2 (67%), but I got myself
into a strange and very serious situation. When NVDA starts, the UAC
dialog pops up and it is spoken, but I can't get out of it. Whether I
press Yes or No, the dialog keeps coming back. It goes into a loop
and I can't do anything else on my computer. I can't even close NVDA
to get Narrator up to change the UAC level. The dialog keeps coming
back all the time. The computer is absolutely unusable. Do you have
any idea how I can get out of the loop and get to the place where I
can bring down the UAC level again. I really have no idea what to do.
Please help. I hope you can.

Kind regards

Christo


On 2016/08/08 8:53 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
As for why UAC keeps asking for permission whenever NVDA runs, I
don't know.
As for UAC not reading properly if level is set to 1: this is a known
problem. NV Access is aware of this issue as we speak.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf
Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 11:47 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] After Anniversary Update NVDA no longer reads
UAC pop-up dialogs

Hi Joseph

Thank you for the response. It makes sense then. I will change the
level and try again. On my desktop the level is 1 (33%). On my laptop
the level is 0 (0%). I had it on 33%, but for some reason then, every
time NVDA started, the UAC dialog popped up requesting permission, so
I dragged it down to 0% and that issue went away. Do you have any
idea why this was happening?

Thank you so much for always being ready to assist.

Kind regards

Christo


On 2016/08/08 8:35 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
For those experiencing this problem: what is your UAC level set to?
To find out, go to Control Panel/User Accounts/change User Account
Control Settings and you should see a slider. In order for UAC fix to
work correctly, UAC level must be set to level 2 (67%) or higher.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf
Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 6:40 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] After Anniversary Update NVDA no longer reads
UAC pop-up dialogs

Hi Joseph

I am glad this matter is receiving attention, but I have to say that
I am using the latest snapshot and it is definitely not reading the
content of the UAC dialogs. I am using Version: next-13485,10f249e8.

Kind regards

Christo


On 2016/08/08 10:12 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
Ah yes, it was a pleasure to investigate this issue a few weeks ago.
Fix included as part of 2016.3 (latest master and next snapshots
contains the fix).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf
Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 1:02 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: [win10] After Anniversary Update NVDA no longer reads UAC
pop-up dialogs

Hello all

I have noticed on both my computers that after the Anniversary Update
NVDA no longer speak the User Access Control dialogs which pop up to
ask your permission to do certain things. I know one can simply type
Alt+y for yes or Alt+n for no, but one never knows what else might be
shown in such a pop-up. Dos anyone know of a fix for this?

Kind regards

Christo



































Re: Problem with NVDA and UAC dialogs after Anniversary Update

Gene
 

No, that theory isn't correct.  You probably have the problem I wrote about in my earlier messages, but I don't know that.  There is some sort of problem that I wrote about earlier.  It causes the yes button to be disabled in UAC.  I don't know if that is your problem because I don't know if you have successfully used UAC in other contexts but the initial UAC setting is not the cause of this problem.
 
Gene

----- Original Message ----- 
Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2016 10:32 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problem with NVDA and UAC dialogs after Anniversary Update

I have a theory as to what caused this very strange problem I
experienced. I think the UAC security level at the time when NVDA is
installed, determines how NVDA and UAC will interface. Let me try and
explain what I mean with actual examples. On my desktop the security
level is and was 34 when I installed NVDA. NVDA works well, it starts up
fine, no problem, except that it doesn't read the content of the UAC
dialog when permission is requested for something. If I then type alt+y
for yes, all is fine.

On my laptop things are different. The security level was set to 0 when
I installed NVDA. At that level NVDA worked identically as the one on my
desktop. I then pushed up the security level on my laptop to 34. Now,
whenever NVDA was launched, UAC requested permission, but Alt+y did the
trick. Next I moved the level up to 67 and all hell broke loose.

It seems, therefore, to get NVDA on my laptop to operate properly, I
must uninstall it, then shift up UAC level to 67 and then reinstall NVDA
at that level.

I hope this makes sense. This is how things look to me.

Kind regards

Christo


On 2016/08/09 4:47 PM, Gene wrote:
> The original message specifically states that whether yes or no is used, NVDA doesn't run and it's a loop that cannot be gotten out of.  It appears that this occcurs before anything else can be done.  I wonder if yes is even available in the UAC dialog?  Some people have a problem in Windows 10 where the yes button disappears from the UAC dialog.  If that is true, the problem is not an NVDA problem but some sort of Windows problem.  There is a web site that gives what is claimed to be a fix for this, which, I believe, involves running in Safe Mode.  I don't know how effective this is.  I've seen this discussed on another list.
>
> To find information do an Internet search for something like no yes button UAC dialog Windows 10
>
> I won't provide a specific link because I don't know how many results there are or which might be the best.
>
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Jacob Kruger
> Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2016 3:08 AM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] Problem with NVDA and UAC dialogs after Anniversary Update
>
>
> To try fire up narrator, are you using the windows key + enter key
> combo? Ask since while it's been a while since had anything to do with
> it, and probably also depends on where/when UAC is coming up, I did
> manage to work around it at least once, quite a while ago like that - as
> in UAC came up, but, under normal windows operation mode, I hit windows
> key + enter, and it could read the UAC dialogue, to allow me to allow
> something else to happen, and then turn off UAC.
>
>
> Good luck
>
>
> Jacob Kruger
> Blind Biker
> Skype: BlindZA
> "Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."
>
> On 2016-08-09 9:24 AM, Christo de Klerk wrote:
>> Hi Joseph
>>
>> I can't, because I can't do anything on that computer; the UAC dialog
>> is there all the time, I can't get it out of the way. I can run
>> Narrator, but I still can't get around the UAC dialog. It must be a
>> modal window that one cannot get rid of.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Christo
>>
>>
>> On 2016/08/09 9:03 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> Hmmm... Let's try this: download latest snapshot again, then run
>>> Narrator and try installing NVDA while Narrator is running.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Joseph
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
>>> Christo de Klerk
>>> Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 11:58 PM
>>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>>> Subject: [nvda] Problem with NVDA and UAC dialogs after Anniversary
>>> Update
>>>
>>> Hello Joseph
>>>
>>> Ok, I brought the conversation to this list and I have copied our
>>> correspondence below for your reference.
>>>
>>> In response to your question, yes, it is an installed copy of the
>>> latest snapshot of NVDA. My problem is that, when I start up the
>>> laptop, it automatically tries to run NVDA and then goes into this
>>> loop; it doesn't matter if I respond with Yes or No. This means I
>>> can't get to do anything on the machine. I thought that, if I could
>>> at least get into the File Explorer, I could delete the NVDA
>>> executable, so that it can't try to open. My goodness, this is such a
>>> mess; I hope you have some advice for me.
>>>
>>> Kind regards
>>>
>>> Christo
>>>
>>> Correspondence below:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>> This is odd indeed...
>>> Is this with an installed copy of NVDA? If so, this should not cause
>>> issues you've described. Sounds like NVDA is trying to run the
>>> installer without realizing that it's already installed (that's one
>>> possibility).
>>> If you don't mind, let's talk about this on the NVDA mailing list.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Joseph
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf
>>> Of Christo de Klerk
>>> Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 12:17 PM
>>> To: win10@win10.groups.io
>>> Subject: Re: [win10] After Anniversary Update NVDA no longer reads
>>> UAC pop-up dialogs
>>>
>>> Joseph
>>>
>>> On my laptop I now moved the level up to 2 (67%), but I got myself
>>> into a strange and very serious situation. When NVDA starts, the UAC
>>> dialog pops up and it is spoken, but I can't get out of it. Whether I
>>> press Yes or No, the dialog keeps coming back. It goes into a loop
>>> and I can't do anything else on my computer. I can't even close NVDA
>>> to get Narrator up to change the UAC level. The dialog keeps coming
>>> back all the time. The computer is absolutely unusable. Do you have
>>> any idea how I can get out of the loop and get to the place where I
>>> can bring down the UAC level again. I really have no idea what to do.
>>> Please help. I hope you can.
>>>
>>> Kind regards
>>>
>>> Christo
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2016/08/08 8:53 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> As for why UAC keeps asking for permission whenever NVDA runs, I
>>> don't know.
>>> As for UAC not reading properly if level is set to 1: this is a known
>>> problem. NV Access is aware of this issue as we speak.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Joseph
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf
>>> Of Christo de Klerk
>>> Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 11:47 AM
>>> To: win10@win10.groups.io
>>> Subject: Re: [win10] After Anniversary Update NVDA no longer reads
>>> UAC pop-up dialogs
>>>
>>> Hi Joseph
>>>
>>> Thank you for the response. It makes sense then. I will change the
>>> level and try again. On my desktop the level is 1 (33%). On my laptop
>>> the level is 0 (0%). I had it on 33%, but for some reason then, every
>>> time NVDA started, the UAC dialog popped up requesting permission, so
>>> I dragged it down to 0% and that issue went away. Do you have any
>>> idea why this was happening?
>>>
>>> Thank you so much for always being ready to assist.
>>>
>>> Kind regards
>>>
>>> Christo
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2016/08/08 8:35 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> For those experiencing this problem: what is your UAC level set to?
>>> To find out, go to Control Panel/User Accounts/change User Account
>>> Control Settings and you should see a slider. In order for UAC fix to
>>> work correctly, UAC level must be set to level 2 (67%) or higher.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Joseph
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf
>>> Of Christo de Klerk
>>> Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 6:40 AM
>>> To: win10@win10.groups.io
>>> Subject: Re: [win10] After Anniversary Update NVDA no longer reads
>>> UAC pop-up dialogs
>>>
>>> Hi Joseph
>>>
>>> I am glad this matter is receiving attention, but I have to say that
>>> I am using the latest snapshot and it is definitely not reading the
>>> content of the UAC dialogs. I am using Version: next-13485,10f249e8.
>>>
>>> Kind regards
>>>
>>> Christo
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2016/08/08 10:12 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> Ah yes, it was a pleasure to investigate this issue a few weeks ago.
>>> Fix included as part of 2016.3 (latest master and next snapshots
>>> contains the fix).
>>> Cheers,
>>> Joseph
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf
>>> Of Christo de Klerk
>>> Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 1:02 AM
>>> To: win10@win10.groups.io
>>> Subject: [win10] After Anniversary Update NVDA no longer reads UAC
>>> pop-up dialogs
>>>
>>> Hello all
>>>
>>> I have noticed on both my computers that after the Anniversary Update
>>> NVDA no longer speak the User Access Control dialogs which pop up to
>>> ask your permission to do certain things. I know one can simply type
>>> Alt+y for yes or Alt+n for no, but one never knows what else might be
>>> shown in such a pop-up. Dos anyone know of a fix for this?
>>>
>>> Kind regards
>>>
>>> Christo
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: Problem with NVDA and UAC dialogs after Anniversary Update

Christo de Klerk
 

I have a theory as to what caused this very strange problem I experienced. I think the UAC security level at the time when NVDA is installed, determines how NVDA and UAC will interface. Let me try and explain what I mean with actual examples. On my desktop the security level is and was 34 when I installed NVDA. NVDA works well, it starts up fine, no problem, except that it doesn't read the content of the UAC dialog when permission is requested for something. If I then type alt+y for yes, all is fine.

On my laptop things are different. The security level was set to 0 when I installed NVDA. At that level NVDA worked identically as the one on my desktop. I then pushed up the security level on my laptop to 34. Now, whenever NVDA was launched, UAC requested permission, but Alt+y did the trick. Next I moved the level up to 67 and all hell broke loose.

It seems, therefore, to get NVDA on my laptop to operate properly, I must uninstall it, then shift up UAC level to 67 and then reinstall NVDA at that level.

I hope this makes sense. This is how things look to me.

Kind regards

Christo

On 2016/08/09 4:47 PM, Gene wrote:
The original message specifically states that whether yes or no is used, NVDA doesn't run and it's a loop that cannot be gotten out of. It appears that this occcurs before anything else can be done. I wonder if yes is even available in the UAC dialog? Some people have a problem in Windows 10 where the yes button disappears from the UAC dialog. If that is true, the problem is not an NVDA problem but some sort of Windows problem. There is a web site that gives what is claimed to be a fix for this, which, I believe, involves running in Safe Mode. I don't know how effective this is. I've seen this discussed on another list.

To find information do an Internet search for something like no yes button UAC dialog Windows 10

I won't provide a specific link because I don't know how many results there are or which might be the best.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Jacob Kruger
Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2016 3:08 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problem with NVDA and UAC dialogs after Anniversary Update


To try fire up narrator, are you using the windows key + enter key
combo? Ask since while it's been a while since had anything to do with
it, and probably also depends on where/when UAC is coming up, I did
manage to work around it at least once, quite a while ago like that - as
in UAC came up, but, under normal windows operation mode, I hit windows
key + enter, and it could read the UAC dialogue, to allow me to allow
something else to happen, and then turn off UAC.


Good luck


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2016-08-09 9:24 AM, Christo de Klerk wrote:
Hi Joseph

I can't, because I can't do anything on that computer; the UAC dialog
is there all the time, I can't get it out of the way. I can run
Narrator, but I still can't get around the UAC dialog. It must be a
modal window that one cannot get rid of.

Regards

Christo


On 2016/08/09 9:03 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
Hmmm... Let's try this: download latest snapshot again, then run
Narrator and try installing NVDA while Narrator is running.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Christo de Klerk
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 11:58 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Problem with NVDA and UAC dialogs after Anniversary
Update

Hello Joseph

Ok, I brought the conversation to this list and I have copied our
correspondence below for your reference.

In response to your question, yes, it is an installed copy of the
latest snapshot of NVDA. My problem is that, when I start up the
laptop, it automatically tries to run NVDA and then goes into this
loop; it doesn't matter if I respond with Yes or No. This means I
can't get to do anything on the machine. I thought that, if I could
at least get into the File Explorer, I could delete the NVDA
executable, so that it can't try to open. My goodness, this is such a
mess; I hope you have some advice for me.

Kind regards

Christo

Correspondence below:

Hi,
This is odd indeed...
Is this with an installed copy of NVDA? If so, this should not cause
issues you've described. Sounds like NVDA is trying to run the
installer without realizing that it's already installed (that's one
possibility).
If you don't mind, let's talk about this on the NVDA mailing list.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf
Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 12:17 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] After Anniversary Update NVDA no longer reads
UAC pop-up dialogs

Joseph

On my laptop I now moved the level up to 2 (67%), but I got myself
into a strange and very serious situation. When NVDA starts, the UAC
dialog pops up and it is spoken, but I can't get out of it. Whether I
press Yes or No, the dialog keeps coming back. It goes into a loop
and I can't do anything else on my computer. I can't even close NVDA
to get Narrator up to change the UAC level. The dialog keeps coming
back all the time. The computer is absolutely unusable. Do you have
any idea how I can get out of the loop and get to the place where I
can bring down the UAC level again. I really have no idea what to do.
Please help. I hope you can.

Kind regards

Christo


On 2016/08/08 8:53 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
As for why UAC keeps asking for permission whenever NVDA runs, I
don't know.
As for UAC not reading properly if level is set to 1: this is a known
problem. NV Access is aware of this issue as we speak.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf
Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 11:47 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] After Anniversary Update NVDA no longer reads
UAC pop-up dialogs

Hi Joseph

Thank you for the response. It makes sense then. I will change the
level and try again. On my desktop the level is 1 (33%). On my laptop
the level is 0 (0%). I had it on 33%, but for some reason then, every
time NVDA started, the UAC dialog popped up requesting permission, so
I dragged it down to 0% and that issue went away. Do you have any
idea why this was happening?

Thank you so much for always being ready to assist.

Kind regards

Christo


On 2016/08/08 8:35 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
For those experiencing this problem: what is your UAC level set to?
To find out, go to Control Panel/User Accounts/change User Account
Control Settings and you should see a slider. In order for UAC fix to
work correctly, UAC level must be set to level 2 (67%) or higher.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf
Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 6:40 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] After Anniversary Update NVDA no longer reads
UAC pop-up dialogs

Hi Joseph

I am glad this matter is receiving attention, but I have to say that
I am using the latest snapshot and it is definitely not reading the
content of the UAC dialogs. I am using Version: next-13485,10f249e8.

Kind regards

Christo


On 2016/08/08 10:12 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
Ah yes, it was a pleasure to investigate this issue a few weeks ago.
Fix included as part of 2016.3 (latest master and next snapshots
contains the fix).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf
Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 1:02 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: [win10] After Anniversary Update NVDA no longer reads UAC
pop-up dialogs

Hello all

I have noticed on both my computers that after the Anniversary Update
NVDA no longer speak the User Access Control dialogs which pop up to
ask your permission to do certain things. I know one can simply type
Alt+y for yes or Alt+n for no, but one never knows what else might be
shown in such a pop-up. Dos anyone know of a fix for this?

Kind regards

Christo




































Re: Problem with NVDA and UAC dialogs after Anniversary Update

Gene
 

The original message specifically states that whether yes or no is used, NVDA doesn't run and it's a loop that cannot be gotten out of.  It appears that this occcurs before anything else can be done.  I wonder if yes is even available in the UAC dialog?  Some people have a problem in Windows 10 where the yes button disappears from the UAC dialog.  If that is true, the problem is not an NVDA problem but some sort of Windows problem.  There is a web site that gives what is claimed to be a fix for this, which, I believe, involves running in Safe Mode.  I don't know how effective this is.  I've seen this discussed on another list. 
 
To find information do an Internet search for something like no yes button UAC dialog Windows 10
 
I won't provide a specific link because I don't know how many results there are or which might be the best. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2016 3:08 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problem with NVDA and UAC dialogs after Anniversary Update

To try fire up narrator, are you using the windows key + enter key
combo? Ask since while it's been a while since had anything to do with
it, and probably also depends on where/when UAC is coming up, I did
manage to work around it at least once, quite a while ago like that - as
in UAC came up, but, under normal windows operation mode, I hit windows
key + enter, and it could read the UAC dialogue, to allow me to allow
something else to happen, and then turn off UAC.


Good luck


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2016-08-09 9:24 AM, Christo de Klerk wrote:
> Hi Joseph
>
> I can't, because I can't do anything on that computer; the UAC dialog
> is there all the time, I can't get it out of the way. I can run
> Narrator, but I still can't get around the UAC dialog. It must be a
> modal window that one cannot get rid of.
>
> Regards
>
> Christo
>
>
> On 2016/08/09 9:03 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:
>> Hi,
>> Hmmm... Let's try this: download latest snapshot again, then run
>> Narrator and try installing NVDA while Narrator is running.
>> Cheers,
>> Joseph
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
>> Christo de Klerk
>> Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 11:58 PM
>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>> Subject: [nvda] Problem with NVDA and UAC dialogs after Anniversary
>> Update
>>
>> Hello Joseph
>>
>> Ok, I brought the conversation to this list and I have copied our
>> correspondence below for your reference.
>>
>> In response to your question, yes, it is an installed copy of the
>> latest snapshot of NVDA. My problem is that, when I start up the
>> laptop, it automatically tries to run NVDA and then goes into this
>> loop; it doesn't matter if I respond with Yes or No. This means I
>> can't get to do anything on the machine. I thought that, if I could
>> at least get into the File Explorer, I could delete the NVDA
>> executable, so that it can't try to open. My goodness, this is such a
>> mess; I hope you have some advice for me.
>>
>> Kind regards
>>
>> Christo
>>
>> Correspondence below:
>>
>> Hi,
>> This is odd indeed...
>> Is this with an installed copy of NVDA? If so, this should not cause
>> issues you've described. Sounds like NVDA is trying to run the
>> installer without realizing that it's already installed (that's one
>> possibility).
>> If you don't mind, let's talk about this on the NVDA mailing list.
>> Cheers,
>> Joseph
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf
>> Of Christo de Klerk
>> Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 12:17 PM
>> To: win10@win10.groups.io
>> Subject: Re: [win10] After Anniversary Update NVDA no longer reads
>> UAC pop-up dialogs
>>
>> Joseph
>>
>> On my laptop I now moved the level up to 2 (67%), but I got myself
>> into a strange and very serious situation. When NVDA starts, the UAC
>> dialog pops up and it is spoken, but I can't get out of it. Whether I
>> press Yes or No, the dialog keeps coming back. It goes into a loop
>> and I can't do anything else on my computer. I can't even close NVDA
>> to get Narrator up to change the UAC level. The dialog keeps coming
>> back all the time. The computer is absolutely unusable. Do you have
>> any idea how I can get out of the loop and get to the place where I
>> can bring down the UAC level again. I really have no idea what to do.
>> Please help. I hope you can.
>>
>> Kind regards
>>
>> Christo
>>
>>
>> On 2016/08/08 8:53 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
>> Hi,
>> As for why UAC keeps asking for permission whenever NVDA runs, I
>> don't know.
>> As for UAC not reading properly if level is set to 1: this is a known
>> problem. NV Access is aware of this issue as we speak.
>> Cheers,
>> Joseph
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf
>> Of Christo de Klerk
>> Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 11:47 AM
>> To: win10@win10.groups.io
>> Subject: Re: [win10] After Anniversary Update NVDA no longer reads
>> UAC pop-up dialogs
>>
>> Hi Joseph
>>
>> Thank you for the response. It makes sense then. I will change the
>> level and try again. On my desktop the level is 1 (33%). On my laptop
>> the level is 0 (0%). I had it on 33%, but for some reason then, every
>> time NVDA started, the UAC dialog popped up requesting permission, so
>> I dragged it down to 0% and that issue went away. Do you have any
>> idea why this was happening?
>>
>> Thank you so much for always being ready to assist.
>>
>> Kind regards
>>
>> Christo
>>
>>
>> On 2016/08/08 8:35 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
>> Hi,
>> For those experiencing this problem: what is your UAC level set to?
>> To find out, go to Control Panel/User Accounts/change User Account
>> Control Settings and you should see a slider. In order for UAC fix to
>> work correctly, UAC level must be set to level 2 (67%) or higher.
>> Cheers,
>> Joseph
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf
>> Of Christo de Klerk
>> Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 6:40 AM
>> To: win10@win10.groups.io
>> Subject: Re: [win10] After Anniversary Update NVDA no longer reads
>> UAC pop-up dialogs
>>
>> Hi Joseph
>>
>> I am glad this matter is receiving attention, but I have to say that
>> I am using the latest snapshot and it is definitely not reading the
>> content of the UAC dialogs. I am using Version: next-13485,10f249e8.
>>
>> Kind regards
>>
>> Christo
>>
>>
>> On 2016/08/08 10:12 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:
>> Hi,
>> Ah yes, it was a pleasure to investigate this issue a few weeks ago.
>> Fix included as part of 2016.3 (latest master and next snapshots
>> contains the fix).
>> Cheers,
>> Joseph
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf
>> Of Christo de Klerk
>> Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 1:02 AM
>> To: win10@win10.groups.io
>> Subject: [win10] After Anniversary Update NVDA no longer reads UAC
>> pop-up dialogs
>>
>> Hello all
>>
>> I have noticed on both my computers that after the Anniversary Update
>> NVDA no longer speak the User Access Control dialogs which pop up to
>> ask your permission to do certain things. I know one can simply type
>> Alt+y for yes or Alt+n for no, but one never knows what else might be
>> shown in such a pop-up. Dos anyone know of a fix for this?
>>
>> Kind regards
>>
>> Christo
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>




Re: who knows where i can download ribbondisabler v3?

P. Otter
 

what you write is correct.

they tell us about the new version v 3.0.0.1 and they tell us you have to download that new version but is not downloadable at all!

cheers

paul otter



Op 9-8-2016 om 10:21 schreef Salva Doménech Miguel via Groups.io:

Hi.
No, in the website we can read the changelog and download the previous version, but not the 3.0 version.

Cheers


Saludos
Salva
kibayasd@yahoo.com
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--------------------------------------------------
From: "Gene New Zealand" <hurrikennyandopo@outlook.co.nz>
Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2016 7:17 AM
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] who knows where i can download ribbondisabler v3?

I have not downloaded from this site, but it looks like the version you
want at http://winaero.com/comment.php?comment.news.20

Gene nz



On 9/08/2016 5:01 PM, P. Otter wrote:
hello all,

from this forum i've found ribbondisabler but i've version 2.

when i go to the site, i only can find the download for version 2 or
version 2.5.

they tell me on the same site there is a version 3 availlable. when i
use windows 10 with the newest update, i have to use v3 else i get a
black screen.

so who can post the link for version 3 of the ribbondisabler?

thanks in advance

paul otter




--
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Re: Problem with NVDA and UAC dialogs after Anniversary Update

Jacob Kruger
 

Christo, glad you got it sorted, and, you can disregard my off-list message...<smile>

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2016-08-09 10:56 AM, Christo de Klerk wrote:
Hello all

Just to let you know that I managed to recover from my dilemma with the help of a pair of good working eyes. On shutdown my friend found a way to get into Troubleshooting and from there we were able to do a system restore. Fortunately I had a restore point on Saturday, so no real harm done and the machine is working fine. I don't believe the problem with the UAC dialog box is fixed, so I definitely will not move it up to 67% again, but I can live with that; the rest is fine.

I want to use this opportunity to thank all of you who tried to help and give suggestions. You guys are always so ready with your help. It is appreciated.

I cannot tell you how relieved I am.

Kind regards

Christo


On 2016/08/09 10:36 AM, Christo de Klerk wrote:
No, unfortunately not.

Regards

Christo


On 2016/08/09 10:29 AM, Jacob Kruger wrote:
Christo, not directly related, but, don't suppose you've got any of the windows PE images installed on a flash drive, or DVD lying around anywhere?


That might let you make changes to file system, even if not letting you boot up machine normally as such?


Stay well


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2016-08-09 10:19 AM, Christo de Klerk wrote:
It could be, but how do I get into the system to fix anyting?

Regards

Christo


On 2016/08/09 10:00 AM, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
Not seen this one before. Could it be the synth in use in the installed copy is being clobbered?
Brian

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Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2016 8:03 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problem with NVDA and UAC dialogs after Anniversary Update


Hi,
Hmmm... Let's try this: download latest snapshot again, then run Narrator and try installing NVDA while Narrator is running.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 11:58 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Problem with NVDA and UAC dialogs after Anniversary Update

Hello Joseph

Ok, I brought the conversation to this list and I have copied our correspondence below for your reference.

In response to your question, yes, it is an installed copy of the latest snapshot of NVDA. My problem is that, when I start up the laptop, it automatically tries to run NVDA and then goes into this loop; it doesn't matter if I respond with Yes or No. This means I can't get to do anything on the machine. I thought that, if I could at least get into the File Explorer, I could delete the NVDA executable, so that it can't try to open. My goodness, this is such a mess; I hope you have some advice for me.

Kind regards

Christo

Correspondence below:

Hi,
This is odd indeed...
Is this with an installed copy of NVDA? If so, this should not cause issues you've described. Sounds like NVDA is trying to run the installer without realizing that it's already installed (that's one possibility).
If you don't mind, let's talk about this on the NVDA mailing list.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 12:17 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] After Anniversary Update NVDA no longer reads UAC pop-up dialogs

Joseph

On my laptop I now moved the level up to 2 (67%), but I got myself into a strange and very serious situation. When NVDA starts, the UAC dialog pops up and it is spoken, but I can't get out of it. Whether I press Yes or No, the dialog keeps coming back. It goes into a loop and I can't do anything else on my computer. I can't even close NVDA to get Narrator up to change the UAC level. The dialog keeps coming back all the time. The computer is absolutely unusable. Do you have any idea how I can get out of the loop and get to the place where I can bring down the UAC level again. I really have no idea what to do. Please help. I hope you can.

Kind regards

Christo


On 2016/08/08 8:53 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
As for why UAC keeps asking for permission whenever NVDA runs, I don't know.
As for UAC not reading properly if level is set to 1: this is a known problem. NV Access is aware of this issue as we speak.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 11:47 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] After Anniversary Update NVDA no longer reads UAC pop-up dialogs

Hi Joseph

Thank you for the response. It makes sense then. I will change the level and try again. On my desktop the level is 1 (33%). On my laptop the level is 0 (0%). I had it on 33%, but for some reason then, every time NVDA started, the UAC dialog popped up requesting permission, so I dragged it down to 0% and that issue went away. Do you have any idea why this was happening?

Thank you so much for always being ready to assist.

Kind regards

Christo


On 2016/08/08 8:35 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
For those experiencing this problem: what is your UAC level set to? To find out, go to Control Panel/User Accounts/change User Account Control Settings and you should see a slider. In order for UAC fix to work correctly, UAC level must be set to level 2 (67%) or higher.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 6:40 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] After Anniversary Update NVDA no longer reads UAC pop-up dialogs

Hi Joseph

I am glad this matter is receiving attention, but I have to say that I am using the latest snapshot and it is definitely not reading the content of the UAC dialogs. I am using Version: next-13485,10f249e8.

Kind regards

Christo


On 2016/08/08 10:12 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
Ah yes, it was a pleasure to investigate this issue a few weeks ago. Fix included as part of 2016.3 (latest master and next snapshots contains the fix).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 1:02 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: [win10] After Anniversary Update NVDA no longer reads UAC pop-up dialogs

Hello all

I have noticed on both my computers that after the Anniversary Update NVDA no longer speak the User Access Control dialogs which pop up to ask your permission to do certain things. I know one can simply type Alt+y for yes or Alt+n for no, but one never knows what else might be shown in such a pop-up. Dos anyone know of a fix for this?

Kind regards

Christo














































Re: Problem with NVDA and UAC dialogs after Anniversary Update

Christo de Klerk
 

Hello all

Just to let you know that I managed to recover from my dilemma with the help of a pair of good working eyes. On shutdown my friend found a way to get into Troubleshooting and from there we were able to do a system restore. Fortunately I had a restore point on Saturday, so no real harm done and the machine is working fine. I don't believe the problem with the UAC dialog box is fixed, so I definitely will not move it up to 67% again, but I can live with that; the rest is fine.

I want to use this opportunity to thank all of you who tried to help and give suggestions. You guys are always so ready with your help. It is appreciated.

I cannot tell you how relieved I am.

Kind regards

Christo

On 2016/08/09 10:36 AM, Christo de Klerk wrote:
No, unfortunately not.

Regards

Christo


On 2016/08/09 10:29 AM, Jacob Kruger wrote:
Christo, not directly related, but, don't suppose you've got any of the windows PE images installed on a flash drive, or DVD lying around anywhere?


That might let you make changes to file system, even if not letting you boot up machine normally as such?


Stay well


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2016-08-09 10:19 AM, Christo de Klerk wrote:
It could be, but how do I get into the system to fix anyting?

Regards

Christo


On 2016/08/09 10:00 AM, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
Not seen this one before. Could it be the synth in use in the installed copy is being clobbered?
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2016 8:03 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problem with NVDA and UAC dialogs after Anniversary Update


Hi,
Hmmm... Let's try this: download latest snapshot again, then run Narrator and try installing NVDA while Narrator is running.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 11:58 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Problem with NVDA and UAC dialogs after Anniversary Update

Hello Joseph

Ok, I brought the conversation to this list and I have copied our correspondence below for your reference.

In response to your question, yes, it is an installed copy of the latest snapshot of NVDA. My problem is that, when I start up the laptop, it automatically tries to run NVDA and then goes into this loop; it doesn't matter if I respond with Yes or No. This means I can't get to do anything on the machine. I thought that, if I could at least get into the File Explorer, I could delete the NVDA executable, so that it can't try to open. My goodness, this is such a mess; I hope you have some advice for me.

Kind regards

Christo

Correspondence below:

Hi,
This is odd indeed...
Is this with an installed copy of NVDA? If so, this should not cause issues you've described. Sounds like NVDA is trying to run the installer without realizing that it's already installed (that's one possibility).
If you don't mind, let's talk about this on the NVDA mailing list.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 12:17 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] After Anniversary Update NVDA no longer reads UAC pop-up dialogs

Joseph

On my laptop I now moved the level up to 2 (67%), but I got myself into a strange and very serious situation. When NVDA starts, the UAC dialog pops up and it is spoken, but I can't get out of it. Whether I press Yes or No, the dialog keeps coming back. It goes into a loop and I can't do anything else on my computer. I can't even close NVDA to get Narrator up to change the UAC level. The dialog keeps coming back all the time. The computer is absolutely unusable. Do you have any idea how I can get out of the loop and get to the place where I can bring down the UAC level again. I really have no idea what to do. Please help. I hope you can.

Kind regards

Christo


On 2016/08/08 8:53 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
As for why UAC keeps asking for permission whenever NVDA runs, I don't know.
As for UAC not reading properly if level is set to 1: this is a known problem. NV Access is aware of this issue as we speak.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 11:47 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] After Anniversary Update NVDA no longer reads UAC pop-up dialogs

Hi Joseph

Thank you for the response. It makes sense then. I will change the level and try again. On my desktop the level is 1 (33%). On my laptop the level is 0 (0%). I had it on 33%, but for some reason then, every time NVDA started, the UAC dialog popped up requesting permission, so I dragged it down to 0% and that issue went away. Do you have any idea why this was happening?

Thank you so much for always being ready to assist.

Kind regards

Christo


On 2016/08/08 8:35 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
For those experiencing this problem: what is your UAC level set to? To find out, go to Control Panel/User Accounts/change User Account Control Settings and you should see a slider. In order for UAC fix to work correctly, UAC level must be set to level 2 (67%) or higher.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 6:40 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] After Anniversary Update NVDA no longer reads UAC pop-up dialogs

Hi Joseph

I am glad this matter is receiving attention, but I have to say that I am using the latest snapshot and it is definitely not reading the content of the UAC dialogs. I am using Version: next-13485,10f249e8.

Kind regards

Christo


On 2016/08/08 10:12 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
Ah yes, it was a pleasure to investigate this issue a few weeks ago. Fix included as part of 2016.3 (latest master and next snapshots contains the fix).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 1:02 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: [win10] After Anniversary Update NVDA no longer reads UAC pop-up dialogs

Hello all

I have noticed on both my computers that after the Anniversary Update NVDA no longer speak the User Access Control dialogs which pop up to ask your permission to do certain things. I know one can simply type Alt+y for yes or Alt+n for no, but one never knows what else might be shown in such a pop-up. Dos anyone know of a fix for this?

Kind regards

Christo










































Re: Problem with NVDA and UAC dialogs after Anniversary Update

Christo de Klerk
 

No, unfortunately not.

Regards

Christo

On 2016/08/09 10:29 AM, Jacob Kruger wrote:
Christo, not directly related, but, don't suppose you've got any of the windows PE images installed on a flash drive, or DVD lying around anywhere?


That might let you make changes to file system, even if not letting you boot up machine normally as such?


Stay well


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2016-08-09 10:19 AM, Christo de Klerk wrote:
It could be, but how do I get into the system to fix anyting?

Regards

Christo


On 2016/08/09 10:00 AM, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
Not seen this one before. Could it be the synth in use in the installed copy is being clobbered?
Brian

bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2016 8:03 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problem with NVDA and UAC dialogs after Anniversary Update


Hi,
Hmmm... Let's try this: download latest snapshot again, then run Narrator and try installing NVDA while Narrator is running.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 11:58 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Problem with NVDA and UAC dialogs after Anniversary Update

Hello Joseph

Ok, I brought the conversation to this list and I have copied our correspondence below for your reference.

In response to your question, yes, it is an installed copy of the latest snapshot of NVDA. My problem is that, when I start up the laptop, it automatically tries to run NVDA and then goes into this loop; it doesn't matter if I respond with Yes or No. This means I can't get to do anything on the machine. I thought that, if I could at least get into the File Explorer, I could delete the NVDA executable, so that it can't try to open. My goodness, this is such a mess; I hope you have some advice for me.

Kind regards

Christo

Correspondence below:

Hi,
This is odd indeed...
Is this with an installed copy of NVDA? If so, this should not cause issues you've described. Sounds like NVDA is trying to run the installer without realizing that it's already installed (that's one possibility).
If you don't mind, let's talk about this on the NVDA mailing list.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 12:17 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] After Anniversary Update NVDA no longer reads UAC pop-up dialogs

Joseph

On my laptop I now moved the level up to 2 (67%), but I got myself into a strange and very serious situation. When NVDA starts, the UAC dialog pops up and it is spoken, but I can't get out of it. Whether I press Yes or No, the dialog keeps coming back. It goes into a loop and I can't do anything else on my computer. I can't even close NVDA to get Narrator up to change the UAC level. The dialog keeps coming back all the time. The computer is absolutely unusable. Do you have any idea how I can get out of the loop and get to the place where I can bring down the UAC level again. I really have no idea what to do. Please help. I hope you can.

Kind regards

Christo


On 2016/08/08 8:53 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
As for why UAC keeps asking for permission whenever NVDA runs, I don't know.
As for UAC not reading properly if level is set to 1: this is a known problem. NV Access is aware of this issue as we speak.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 11:47 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] After Anniversary Update NVDA no longer reads UAC pop-up dialogs

Hi Joseph

Thank you for the response. It makes sense then. I will change the level and try again. On my desktop the level is 1 (33%). On my laptop the level is 0 (0%). I had it on 33%, but for some reason then, every time NVDA started, the UAC dialog popped up requesting permission, so I dragged it down to 0% and that issue went away. Do you have any idea why this was happening?

Thank you so much for always being ready to assist.

Kind regards

Christo


On 2016/08/08 8:35 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
For those experiencing this problem: what is your UAC level set to? To find out, go to Control Panel/User Accounts/change User Account Control Settings and you should see a slider. In order for UAC fix to work correctly, UAC level must be set to level 2 (67%) or higher.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 6:40 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] After Anniversary Update NVDA no longer reads UAC pop-up dialogs

Hi Joseph

I am glad this matter is receiving attention, but I have to say that I am using the latest snapshot and it is definitely not reading the content of the UAC dialogs. I am using Version: next-13485,10f249e8.

Kind regards

Christo


On 2016/08/08 10:12 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
Ah yes, it was a pleasure to investigate this issue a few weeks ago. Fix included as part of 2016.3 (latest master and next snapshots contains the fix).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 1:02 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: [win10] After Anniversary Update NVDA no longer reads UAC pop-up dialogs

Hello all

I have noticed on both my computers that after the Anniversary Update NVDA no longer speak the User Access Control dialogs which pop up to ask your permission to do certain things. I know one can simply type Alt+y for yes or Alt+n for no, but one never knows what else might be shown in such a pop-up. Dos anyone know of a fix for this?

Kind regards

Christo








































Re: Problem with NVDA and UAC dialogs after Anniversary Update

Christo de Klerk
 

Yes, I bring up Narrator with Win+Enter, but I can't do anything with it, because the UAC dialog blocks everything.

Regards

Christo

On 2016/08/09 10:08 AM, Jacob Kruger wrote:
To try fire up narrator, are you using the windows key + enter key combo? Ask since while it's been a while since had anything to do with it, and probably also depends on where/when UAC is coming up, I did manage to work around it at least once, quite a while ago like that - as in UAC came up, but, under normal windows operation mode, I hit windows key + enter, and it could read the UAC dialogue, to allow me to allow something else to happen, and then turn off UAC.


Good luck


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2016-08-09 9:24 AM, Christo de Klerk wrote:
Hi Joseph

I can't, because I can't do anything on that computer; the UAC dialog is there all the time, I can't get it out of the way. I can run Narrator, but I still can't get around the UAC dialog. It must be a modal window that one cannot get rid of.

Regards

Christo


On 2016/08/09 9:03 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
Hmmm... Let's try this: download latest snapshot again, then run Narrator and try installing NVDA while Narrator is running.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 11:58 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Problem with NVDA and UAC dialogs after Anniversary Update

Hello Joseph

Ok, I brought the conversation to this list and I have copied our correspondence below for your reference.

In response to your question, yes, it is an installed copy of the latest snapshot of NVDA. My problem is that, when I start up the laptop, it automatically tries to run NVDA and then goes into this loop; it doesn't matter if I respond with Yes or No. This means I can't get to do anything on the machine. I thought that, if I could at least get into the File Explorer, I could delete the NVDA executable, so that it can't try to open. My goodness, this is such a mess; I hope you have some advice for me.

Kind regards

Christo

Correspondence below:

Hi,
This is odd indeed...
Is this with an installed copy of NVDA? If so, this should not cause issues you've described. Sounds like NVDA is trying to run the installer without realizing that it's already installed (that's one possibility).
If you don't mind, let's talk about this on the NVDA mailing list.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 12:17 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] After Anniversary Update NVDA no longer reads UAC pop-up dialogs

Joseph

On my laptop I now moved the level up to 2 (67%), but I got myself into a strange and very serious situation. When NVDA starts, the UAC dialog pops up and it is spoken, but I can't get out of it. Whether I press Yes or No, the dialog keeps coming back. It goes into a loop and I can't do anything else on my computer. I can't even close NVDA to get Narrator up to change the UAC level. The dialog keeps coming back all the time. The computer is absolutely unusable. Do you have any idea how I can get out of the loop and get to the place where I can bring down the UAC level again. I really have no idea what to do. Please help. I hope you can.

Kind regards

Christo


On 2016/08/08 8:53 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
As for why UAC keeps asking for permission whenever NVDA runs, I don't know.
As for UAC not reading properly if level is set to 1: this is a known problem. NV Access is aware of this issue as we speak.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 11:47 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] After Anniversary Update NVDA no longer reads UAC pop-up dialogs

Hi Joseph

Thank you for the response. It makes sense then. I will change the level and try again. On my desktop the level is 1 (33%). On my laptop the level is 0 (0%). I had it on 33%, but for some reason then, every time NVDA started, the UAC dialog popped up requesting permission, so I dragged it down to 0% and that issue went away. Do you have any idea why this was happening?

Thank you so much for always being ready to assist.

Kind regards

Christo


On 2016/08/08 8:35 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
For those experiencing this problem: what is your UAC level set to? To find out, go to Control Panel/User Accounts/change User Account Control Settings and you should see a slider. In order for UAC fix to work correctly, UAC level must be set to level 2 (67%) or higher.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 6:40 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] After Anniversary Update NVDA no longer reads UAC pop-up dialogs

Hi Joseph

I am glad this matter is receiving attention, but I have to say that I am using the latest snapshot and it is definitely not reading the content of the UAC dialogs. I am using Version: next-13485,10f249e8.

Kind regards

Christo


On 2016/08/08 10:12 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
Ah yes, it was a pleasure to investigate this issue a few weeks ago. Fix included as part of 2016.3 (latest master and next snapshots contains the fix).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 1:02 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: [win10] After Anniversary Update NVDA no longer reads UAC pop-up dialogs

Hello all

I have noticed on both my computers that after the Anniversary Update NVDA no longer speak the User Access Control dialogs which pop up to ask your permission to do certain things. I know one can simply type Alt+y for yes or Alt+n for no, but one never knows what else might be shown in such a pop-up. Dos anyone know of a fix for this?

Kind regards

Christo





































Re: Problem with NVDA and UAC dialogs after Anniversary Update

Jacob Kruger
 

Christo, not directly related, but, don't suppose you've got any of the windows PE images installed on a flash drive, or DVD lying around anywhere?


That might let you make changes to file system, even if not letting you boot up machine normally as such?


Stay well


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2016-08-09 10:19 AM, Christo de Klerk wrote:
It could be, but how do I get into the system to fix anyting?

Regards

Christo


On 2016/08/09 10:00 AM, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
Not seen this one before. Could it be the synth in use in the installed copy is being clobbered?
Brian

bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2016 8:03 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problem with NVDA and UAC dialogs after Anniversary Update


Hi,
Hmmm... Let's try this: download latest snapshot again, then run Narrator and try installing NVDA while Narrator is running.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 11:58 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Problem with NVDA and UAC dialogs after Anniversary Update

Hello Joseph

Ok, I brought the conversation to this list and I have copied our correspondence below for your reference.

In response to your question, yes, it is an installed copy of the latest snapshot of NVDA. My problem is that, when I start up the laptop, it automatically tries to run NVDA and then goes into this loop; it doesn't matter if I respond with Yes or No. This means I can't get to do anything on the machine. I thought that, if I could at least get into the File Explorer, I could delete the NVDA executable, so that it can't try to open. My goodness, this is such a mess; I hope you have some advice for me.

Kind regards

Christo

Correspondence below:

Hi,
This is odd indeed...
Is this with an installed copy of NVDA? If so, this should not cause issues you've described. Sounds like NVDA is trying to run the installer without realizing that it's already installed (that's one possibility).
If you don't mind, let's talk about this on the NVDA mailing list.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 12:17 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] After Anniversary Update NVDA no longer reads UAC pop-up dialogs

Joseph

On my laptop I now moved the level up to 2 (67%), but I got myself into a strange and very serious situation. When NVDA starts, the UAC dialog pops up and it is spoken, but I can't get out of it. Whether I press Yes or No, the dialog keeps coming back. It goes into a loop and I can't do anything else on my computer. I can't even close NVDA to get Narrator up to change the UAC level. The dialog keeps coming back all the time. The computer is absolutely unusable. Do you have any idea how I can get out of the loop and get to the place where I can bring down the UAC level again. I really have no idea what to do. Please help. I hope you can.

Kind regards

Christo


On 2016/08/08 8:53 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
As for why UAC keeps asking for permission whenever NVDA runs, I don't know.
As for UAC not reading properly if level is set to 1: this is a known problem. NV Access is aware of this issue as we speak.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 11:47 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] After Anniversary Update NVDA no longer reads UAC pop-up dialogs

Hi Joseph

Thank you for the response. It makes sense then. I will change the level and try again. On my desktop the level is 1 (33%). On my laptop the level is 0 (0%). I had it on 33%, but for some reason then, every time NVDA started, the UAC dialog popped up requesting permission, so I dragged it down to 0% and that issue went away. Do you have any idea why this was happening?

Thank you so much for always being ready to assist.

Kind regards

Christo


On 2016/08/08 8:35 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
For those experiencing this problem: what is your UAC level set to? To find out, go to Control Panel/User Accounts/change User Account Control Settings and you should see a slider. In order for UAC fix to work correctly, UAC level must be set to level 2 (67%) or higher.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 6:40 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] After Anniversary Update NVDA no longer reads UAC pop-up dialogs

Hi Joseph

I am glad this matter is receiving attention, but I have to say that I am using the latest snapshot and it is definitely not reading the content of the UAC dialogs. I am using Version: next-13485,10f249e8.

Kind regards

Christo


On 2016/08/08 10:12 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
Ah yes, it was a pleasure to investigate this issue a few weeks ago. Fix included as part of 2016.3 (latest master and next snapshots contains the fix).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 1:02 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: [win10] After Anniversary Update NVDA no longer reads UAC pop-up dialogs

Hello all

I have noticed on both my computers that after the Anniversary Update NVDA no longer speak the User Access Control dialogs which pop up to ask your permission to do certain things. I know one can simply type Alt+y for yes or Alt+n for no, but one never knows what else might be shown in such a pop-up. Dos anyone know of a fix for this?

Kind regards

Christo






































Re: who knows where i can download ribbondisabler v3?

Salva Doménech Miguel <kibayasd@...>
 

Hi.
No, in the website we can read the changelog and download the previous version, but not the 3.0 version.

Cheers


Saludos
Salva
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From: "Gene New Zealand" <hurrikennyandopo@outlook.co.nz>
Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2016 7:17 AM
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] who knows where i can download ribbondisabler v3?

I have not downloaded from this site, but it looks like the version you
want at http://winaero.com/comment.php?comment.news.20

Gene nz



On 9/08/2016 5:01 PM, P. Otter wrote:
hello all,

from this forum i've found ribbondisabler but i've version 2.

when i go to the site, i only can find the download for version 2 or
version 2.5.

they tell me on the same site there is a version 3 availlable. when i
use windows 10 with the newest update, i have to use v3 else i get a
black screen.

so who can post the link for version 3 of the ribbondisabler?

thanks in advance

paul otter




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Re: Problem with NVDA and UAC dialogs after Anniversary Update

Christo de Klerk
 

It could be, but how do I get into the system to fix anyting?

Regards

Christo

On 2016/08/09 10:00 AM, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
Not seen this one before. Could it be the synth in use in the installed copy is being clobbered?
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2016 8:03 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problem with NVDA and UAC dialogs after Anniversary Update


Hi,
Hmmm... Let's try this: download latest snapshot again, then run Narrator and try installing NVDA while Narrator is running.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 11:58 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Problem with NVDA and UAC dialogs after Anniversary Update

Hello Joseph

Ok, I brought the conversation to this list and I have copied our correspondence below for your reference.

In response to your question, yes, it is an installed copy of the latest snapshot of NVDA. My problem is that, when I start up the laptop, it automatically tries to run NVDA and then goes into this loop; it doesn't matter if I respond with Yes or No. This means I can't get to do anything on the machine. I thought that, if I could at least get into the File Explorer, I could delete the NVDA executable, so that it can't try to open. My goodness, this is such a mess; I hope you have some advice for me.

Kind regards

Christo

Correspondence below:

Hi,
This is odd indeed...
Is this with an installed copy of NVDA? If so, this should not cause issues you've described. Sounds like NVDA is trying to run the installer without realizing that it's already installed (that's one possibility).
If you don't mind, let's talk about this on the NVDA mailing list.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 12:17 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] After Anniversary Update NVDA no longer reads UAC pop-up dialogs

Joseph

On my laptop I now moved the level up to 2 (67%), but I got myself into a strange and very serious situation. When NVDA starts, the UAC dialog pops up and it is spoken, but I can't get out of it. Whether I press Yes or No, the dialog keeps coming back. It goes into a loop and I can't do anything else on my computer. I can't even close NVDA to get Narrator up to change the UAC level. The dialog keeps coming back all the time. The computer is absolutely unusable. Do you have any idea how I can get out of the loop and get to the place where I can bring down the UAC level again. I really have no idea what to do. Please help. I hope you can.

Kind regards

Christo


On 2016/08/08 8:53 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
As for why UAC keeps asking for permission whenever NVDA runs, I don't know.
As for UAC not reading properly if level is set to 1: this is a known problem. NV Access is aware of this issue as we speak.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 11:47 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] After Anniversary Update NVDA no longer reads UAC pop-up dialogs

Hi Joseph

Thank you for the response. It makes sense then. I will change the level and try again. On my desktop the level is 1 (33%). On my laptop the level is 0 (0%). I had it on 33%, but for some reason then, every time NVDA started, the UAC dialog popped up requesting permission, so I dragged it down to 0% and that issue went away. Do you have any idea why this was happening?

Thank you so much for always being ready to assist.

Kind regards

Christo


On 2016/08/08 8:35 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
For those experiencing this problem: what is your UAC level set to? To find out, go to Control Panel/User Accounts/change User Account Control Settings and you should see a slider. In order for UAC fix to work correctly, UAC level must be set to level 2 (67%) or higher.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 6:40 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] After Anniversary Update NVDA no longer reads UAC pop-up dialogs

Hi Joseph

I am glad this matter is receiving attention, but I have to say that I am using the latest snapshot and it is definitely not reading the content of the UAC dialogs. I am using Version: next-13485,10f249e8.

Kind regards

Christo


On 2016/08/08 10:12 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
Ah yes, it was a pleasure to investigate this issue a few weeks ago. Fix included as part of 2016.3 (latest master and next snapshots contains the fix).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 1:02 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: [win10] After Anniversary Update NVDA no longer reads UAC pop-up dialogs

Hello all

I have noticed on both my computers that after the Anniversary Update NVDA no longer speak the User Access Control dialogs which pop up to ask your permission to do certain things. I know one can simply type Alt+y for yes or Alt+n for no, but one never knows what else might be shown in such a pop-up. Dos anyone know of a fix for this?

Kind regards

Christo


































Re: Problem with NVDA and UAC dialogs after Anniversary Update

Christo de Klerk
 

Alt+y just let it keeps looping. Restarting doesn't help, because it loads NVDA on Startup and then it happens immediately.

Regards

Christo

On 2016/08/09 9:33 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
Even pressing Alt+Y doesn't help, and how about restarting your computer?
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2016 12:24 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problem with NVDA and UAC dialogs after Anniversary Update

Hi Joseph

I can't, because I can't do anything on that computer; the UAC dialog is there all the time, I can't get it out of the way. I can run Narrator, but I still can't get around the UAC dialog. It must be a modal window that one cannot get rid of.

Regards

Christo


On 2016/08/09 9:03 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
Hmmm... Let's try this: download latest snapshot again, then run Narrator and try installing NVDA while Narrator is running.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Christo de Klerk
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 11:58 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Problem with NVDA and UAC dialogs after Anniversary
Update

Hello Joseph

Ok, I brought the conversation to this list and I have copied our correspondence below for your reference.

In response to your question, yes, it is an installed copy of the latest snapshot of NVDA. My problem is that, when I start up the laptop, it automatically tries to run NVDA and then goes into this loop; it doesn't matter if I respond with Yes or No. This means I can't get to do anything on the machine. I thought that, if I could at least get into the File Explorer, I could delete the NVDA executable, so that it can't try to open. My goodness, this is such a mess; I hope you have some advice for me.

Kind regards

Christo

Correspondence below:

Hi,
This is odd indeed...
Is this with an installed copy of NVDA? If so, this should not cause issues you've described. Sounds like NVDA is trying to run the installer without realizing that it's already installed (that's one possibility).
If you don't mind, let's talk about this on the NVDA mailing list.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf
Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 12:17 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] After Anniversary Update NVDA no longer reads UAC
pop-up dialogs

Joseph

On my laptop I now moved the level up to 2 (67%), but I got myself into a strange and very serious situation. When NVDA starts, the UAC dialog pops up and it is spoken, but I can't get out of it. Whether I press Yes or No, the dialog keeps coming back. It goes into a loop and I can't do anything else on my computer. I can't even close NVDA to get Narrator up to change the UAC level. The dialog keeps coming back all the time. The computer is absolutely unusable. Do you have any idea how I can get out of the loop and get to the place where I can bring down the UAC level again. I really have no idea what to do. Please help. I hope you can.

Kind regards

Christo


On 2016/08/08 8:53 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
As for why UAC keeps asking for permission whenever NVDA runs, I don't know.
As for UAC not reading properly if level is set to 1: this is a known problem. NV Access is aware of this issue as we speak.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf
Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 11:47 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] After Anniversary Update NVDA no longer reads UAC
pop-up dialogs

Hi Joseph

Thank you for the response. It makes sense then. I will change the level and try again. On my desktop the level is 1 (33%). On my laptop the level is 0 (0%). I had it on 33%, but for some reason then, every time NVDA started, the UAC dialog popped up requesting permission, so I dragged it down to 0% and that issue went away. Do you have any idea why this was happening?

Thank you so much for always being ready to assist.

Kind regards

Christo


On 2016/08/08 8:35 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
For those experiencing this problem: what is your UAC level set to? To find out, go to Control Panel/User Accounts/change User Account Control Settings and you should see a slider. In order for UAC fix to work correctly, UAC level must be set to level 2 (67%) or higher.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf
Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 6:40 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] After Anniversary Update NVDA no longer reads UAC
pop-up dialogs

Hi Joseph

I am glad this matter is receiving attention, but I have to say that I am using the latest snapshot and it is definitely not reading the content of the UAC dialogs. I am using Version: next-13485,10f249e8.

Kind regards

Christo


On 2016/08/08 10:12 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
Ah yes, it was a pleasure to investigate this issue a few weeks ago. Fix included as part of 2016.3 (latest master and next snapshots contains the fix).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf
Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 1:02 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: [win10] After Anniversary Update NVDA no longer reads UAC
pop-up dialogs

Hello all

I have noticed on both my computers that after the Anniversary Update NVDA no longer speak the User Access Control dialogs which pop up to ask your permission to do certain things. I know one can simply type Alt+y for yes or Alt+n for no, but one never knows what else might be shown in such a pop-up. Dos anyone know of a fix for this?

Kind regards

Christo



































Re: Problem with NVDA and UAC dialogs after Anniversary Update

Jacob Kruger
 

To try fire up narrator, are you using the windows key + enter key combo? Ask since while it's been a while since had anything to do with it, and probably also depends on where/when UAC is coming up, I did manage to work around it at least once, quite a while ago like that - as in UAC came up, but, under normal windows operation mode, I hit windows key + enter, and it could read the UAC dialogue, to allow me to allow something else to happen, and then turn off UAC.


Good luck


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2016-08-09 9:24 AM, Christo de Klerk wrote:
Hi Joseph

I can't, because I can't do anything on that computer; the UAC dialog is there all the time, I can't get it out of the way. I can run Narrator, but I still can't get around the UAC dialog. It must be a modal window that one cannot get rid of.

Regards

Christo


On 2016/08/09 9:03 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
Hmmm... Let's try this: download latest snapshot again, then run Narrator and try installing NVDA while Narrator is running.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 11:58 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Problem with NVDA and UAC dialogs after Anniversary Update

Hello Joseph

Ok, I brought the conversation to this list and I have copied our correspondence below for your reference.

In response to your question, yes, it is an installed copy of the latest snapshot of NVDA. My problem is that, when I start up the laptop, it automatically tries to run NVDA and then goes into this loop; it doesn't matter if I respond with Yes or No. This means I can't get to do anything on the machine. I thought that, if I could at least get into the File Explorer, I could delete the NVDA executable, so that it can't try to open. My goodness, this is such a mess; I hope you have some advice for me.

Kind regards

Christo

Correspondence below:

Hi,
This is odd indeed...
Is this with an installed copy of NVDA? If so, this should not cause issues you've described. Sounds like NVDA is trying to run the installer without realizing that it's already installed (that's one possibility).
If you don't mind, let's talk about this on the NVDA mailing list.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 12:17 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] After Anniversary Update NVDA no longer reads UAC pop-up dialogs

Joseph

On my laptop I now moved the level up to 2 (67%), but I got myself into a strange and very serious situation. When NVDA starts, the UAC dialog pops up and it is spoken, but I can't get out of it. Whether I press Yes or No, the dialog keeps coming back. It goes into a loop and I can't do anything else on my computer. I can't even close NVDA to get Narrator up to change the UAC level. The dialog keeps coming back all the time. The computer is absolutely unusable. Do you have any idea how I can get out of the loop and get to the place where I can bring down the UAC level again. I really have no idea what to do. Please help. I hope you can.

Kind regards

Christo


On 2016/08/08 8:53 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
As for why UAC keeps asking for permission whenever NVDA runs, I don't know.
As for UAC not reading properly if level is set to 1: this is a known problem. NV Access is aware of this issue as we speak.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 11:47 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] After Anniversary Update NVDA no longer reads UAC pop-up dialogs

Hi Joseph

Thank you for the response. It makes sense then. I will change the level and try again. On my desktop the level is 1 (33%). On my laptop the level is 0 (0%). I had it on 33%, but for some reason then, every time NVDA started, the UAC dialog popped up requesting permission, so I dragged it down to 0% and that issue went away. Do you have any idea why this was happening?

Thank you so much for always being ready to assist.

Kind regards

Christo


On 2016/08/08 8:35 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
For those experiencing this problem: what is your UAC level set to? To find out, go to Control Panel/User Accounts/change User Account Control Settings and you should see a slider. In order for UAC fix to work correctly, UAC level must be set to level 2 (67%) or higher.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 6:40 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] After Anniversary Update NVDA no longer reads UAC pop-up dialogs

Hi Joseph

I am glad this matter is receiving attention, but I have to say that I am using the latest snapshot and it is definitely not reading the content of the UAC dialogs. I am using Version: next-13485,10f249e8.

Kind regards

Christo


On 2016/08/08 10:12 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
Ah yes, it was a pleasure to investigate this issue a few weeks ago. Fix included as part of 2016.3 (latest master and next snapshots contains the fix).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 1:02 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: [win10] After Anniversary Update NVDA no longer reads UAC pop-up dialogs

Hello all

I have noticed on both my computers that after the Anniversary Update NVDA no longer speak the User Access Control dialogs which pop up to ask your permission to do certain things. I know one can simply type Alt+y for yes or Alt+n for no, but one never knows what else might be shown in such a pop-up. Dos anyone know of a fix for this?

Kind regards

Christo



































Re: Problem with NVDA and UAC dialogs after Anniversary Update

Brian's Mail list account BY <bglists@...>
 

Not seen this one before. Could it be the synth in use in the installed copy is being clobbered?
Brian

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Please address personal email to:-
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2016 8:03 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problem with NVDA and UAC dialogs after Anniversary Update


Hi,
Hmmm... Let's try this: download latest snapshot again, then run Narrator and try installing NVDA while Narrator is running.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 11:58 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Problem with NVDA and UAC dialogs after Anniversary Update

Hello Joseph

Ok, I brought the conversation to this list and I have copied our correspondence below for your reference.

In response to your question, yes, it is an installed copy of the latest snapshot of NVDA. My problem is that, when I start up the laptop, it automatically tries to run NVDA and then goes into this loop; it doesn't matter if I respond with Yes or No. This means I can't get to do anything on the machine. I thought that, if I could at least get into the File Explorer, I could delete the NVDA executable, so that it can't try to open. My goodness, this is such a mess; I hope you have some advice for me.

Kind regards

Christo

Correspondence below:

Hi,
This is odd indeed...
Is this with an installed copy of NVDA? If so, this should not cause issues you've described. Sounds like NVDA is trying to run the installer without realizing that it's already installed (that's one possibility).
If you don't mind, let's talk about this on the NVDA mailing list.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 12:17 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] After Anniversary Update NVDA no longer reads UAC pop-up dialogs

Joseph

On my laptop I now moved the level up to 2 (67%), but I got myself into a strange and very serious situation. When NVDA starts, the UAC dialog pops up and it is spoken, but I can't get out of it. Whether I press Yes or No, the dialog keeps coming back. It goes into a loop and I can't do anything else on my computer. I can't even close NVDA to get Narrator up to change the UAC level. The dialog keeps coming back all the time. The computer is absolutely unusable. Do you have any idea how I can get out of the loop and get to the place where I can bring down the UAC level again. I really have no idea what to do. Please help. I hope you can.

Kind regards

Christo


On 2016/08/08 8:53 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
As for why UAC keeps asking for permission whenever NVDA runs, I don't know.
As for UAC not reading properly if level is set to 1: this is a known problem. NV Access is aware of this issue as we speak.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 11:47 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] After Anniversary Update NVDA no longer reads UAC pop-up dialogs

Hi Joseph

Thank you for the response. It makes sense then. I will change the level and try again. On my desktop the level is 1 (33%). On my laptop the level is 0 (0%). I had it on 33%, but for some reason then, every time NVDA started, the UAC dialog popped up requesting permission, so I dragged it down to 0% and that issue went away. Do you have any idea why this was happening?

Thank you so much for always being ready to assist.

Kind regards

Christo


On 2016/08/08 8:35 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
For those experiencing this problem: what is your UAC level set to? To find out, go to Control Panel/User Accounts/change User Account Control Settings and you should see a slider. In order for UAC fix to work correctly, UAC level must be set to level 2 (67%) or higher.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 6:40 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] After Anniversary Update NVDA no longer reads UAC pop-up dialogs

Hi Joseph

I am glad this matter is receiving attention, but I have to say that I am using the latest snapshot and it is definitely not reading the content of the UAC dialogs. I am using Version: next-13485,10f249e8.

Kind regards

Christo


On 2016/08/08 10:12 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
Ah yes, it was a pleasure to investigate this issue a few weeks ago. Fix included as part of 2016.3 (latest master and next snapshots contains the fix).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 1:02 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: [win10] After Anniversary Update NVDA no longer reads UAC pop-up dialogs

Hello all

I have noticed on both my computers that after the Anniversary Update NVDA no longer speak the User Access Control dialogs which pop up to ask your permission to do certain things. I know one can simply type Alt+y for yes or Alt+n for no, but one never knows what else might be shown in such a pop-up. Dos anyone know of a fix for this?

Kind regards

Christo


Re: Beware anniversary update for...

Brian's Mail list account BY <bglists@...>
 

Well the next branch is the most up to date on the snapshots page for nvda.

I've wound my 10 machine back at the moment due to problems with it removing the Outlook Express hacked version. The thing is is there any way in the update where you can tell 10 to not remove software it does not like and if it fails to work afterwards you can take it out yourself. I have a feeling this tendency to remove without asking has corrupted the registry which is why all the other issues have occured.
I don't want to have to clean install it, if it gives problems I'll stay on the old build, so I did wonder if I leave it will windows updates over time effectively make it into this version without deleting stuff. I've rea Microsofts mutterings and I'm none the wiser at all.
Seems to me that there could be any number of new builds over time resulting in many different versions of windows 10 with a lot of different issues with screenreaders depending on the version core in use.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "ken lawrence via Groups.io" <kenlawrence124=aol.com@groups.io>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2016 2:55 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Beware anniversary update for...


Hi list just installed the anniversary update yesterday. have no problems with live mail. it doesn't seem to read the edge browser right like blind bargains had suggested, but that might be because NVDA and or jaws must be updated first. today someone on this list told me during a game chat on out of sight that there is a developers update to NVDA since no update has come up when I hit check for updates I'm guessin g that any update is forthcoming. haven't scanned with defendor yet but so far update works fine.