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Re: Software Uninstallers
have you tried anything else from this site?
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On 09/08/2016 06:16, Afrim wrote: I'm glad it works for you Kevin, I may post a short review on the group to introduce it to people.
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 8, 2016, at 11:19 PM, Kevin Cussick via Groups.io <the.big.white.shepherd=googlemail.com@groups.io> wrote:
thanks very much this even beats the other program that I recommended, thanks again.
On 08/08/2016 21:14, Kevin Cussick via Groups.is wrote:
Yes please this would be good is it free or not? thanks in advance.
On 08/08/2016 05:59, Afrim wrote:
Hello,
I personally use Uninstaller from Puran Utilities, which is the most
accessible uninstaller I've ever seen.
If you'd like, I could give a link.
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 7, 2016, at 4:20 PM, Carlos <gmjc341961@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello All!
Thank You! To everyone who suggested Bulk Crap Uninstaller as a
replacement for REVO Uninstaller.
Bulk Crap Uninstaller works great with NVDA! So, all who are not
happy with REVO can go ahead and say goodbye to REVO and use Bulk
Crap Uninstaller!
Thank You! To all who responded to the REVO is Inaccessible thread
and gave suggestions about better uninstaller software!
--
Carlos Gonzalez - Los Angeles, CA. - gmjc341961@gmail.com
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A problem with the accessible page of Gameday Audio in Firefox 48
Hi all. I've got a minor problem. I don't know if any of you on this list have a subscription to MLB Gameday Audio, but in FF 48 I can't move my arrow keys or tab to read the rest of the page once you start playing a game. When I hit the up or down arrow all I get is the URL read. I don't know if this is a flaw in FF 48 or not. I am running master branch of NVDA. If anyone is running NVDA 2016.2 and can play with this that would be great. I figured I'd post about this here before posing the same question to the Firefox support list. Thanks.
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Hi,
I am using NVDA Snapshots, Next branch. Every time I try to update NVDA, I get an error. I was thinking of uninstalling NVDA and reinstalling it to see if it fixes the problem but that would mean I would have to reinstall all my add-ons.
Does anybody else have issues updating NVDA?
I
David
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Re: Problem with NVDA and UAC dialogs after Anniversary Update
Then the problem isn't the yes button being
disabled evidently. But the level of UAC when a program is installed
should have no bearing on how it functions in a program if you change it.
UAC is a completely independent feature. You are setting it to notify you
according to different conditions UAC can look for, not anything having to do
with any specific program.
Gene
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2016 11:02 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problem with NVDA and UAC dialogs after
Anniversary Update
Hi Gene In my case NVDA read those dialogs; in fact I
heard them so many times, I almost couldn't handle it anymore. Both the Yes
and No buttons were present, plus a link for more information and another
link to change notification levels. Unfortunately all these controls just
made the dialog loop again. Kind regards Christo On
2016/08/09 5:54 PM, Gene wrote: > No, that theory isn't correct. You
probably have the problem I wrote about in my earlier messages, but I don't know
that. There is some sort of problem that I wrote about earlier. It
causes the yes button to be disabled in UAC. I don't know if that is your
problem because I don't know if you have successfully used UAC in other contexts
but the initial UAC setting is not the cause of this problem. > >
Gene > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Christo de
Klerk > Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2016 10:32 AM > To: nvda@nvda.groups.io> Subject: Re:
[nvda] Problem with NVDA and UAC dialogs after Anniversary
Update > > > I have a theory as to what caused this very
strange problem I > experienced. I think the UAC security level at the
time when NVDA is > installed, determines how NVDA and UAC will interface.
Let me try and > explain what I mean with actual examples. On my desktop
the security > level is and was 34 when I installed NVDA. NVDA works well,
it starts up > fine, no problem, except that it doesn't read the content
of the UAC > dialog when permission is requested for something. If I then
type alt+y > for yes, all is fine. > > On my laptop things are
different. The security level was set to 0 when > I installed NVDA. At
that level NVDA worked identically as the one on my > desktop. I then
pushed up the security level on my laptop to 34. Now, > whenever NVDA was
launched, UAC requested permission, but Alt+y did the > trick. Next I
moved the level up to 67 and all hell broke loose. > > It seems,
therefore, to get NVDA on my laptop to operate properly, I > must
uninstall it, then shift up UAC level to 67 and then reinstall NVDA > at
that level. > > I hope this makes sense. This is how things look to
me. > > Kind regards > > Christo > > >
On 2016/08/09 4:47 PM, Gene wrote: >> The original message specifically
states that whether yes or no is used, NVDA doesn't run and it's a loop that
cannot be gotten out of. It appears that this occcurs before anything else
can be done. I wonder if yes is even available in the UAC dialog?
Some people have a problem in Windows 10 where the yes button disappears from
the UAC dialog. If that is true, the problem is not an NVDA problem but
some sort of Windows problem. There is a web site that gives what is
claimed to be a fix for this, which, I believe, involves running in Safe
Mode. I don't know how effective this is. I've seen this discussed
on another list. >> >> To find information do an Internet
search for something like no yes button UAC dialog Windows
10 >> >> I won't provide a specific link because I don't know
how many results there are or which might be the best. >> >>
Gene >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From:
Jacob Kruger >> Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2016 3:08 AM >> To:
nvda@nvda.groups.io>>
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problem with NVDA and UAC dialogs after Anniversary
Update >> >> >> To try fire up narrator, are you
using the windows key + enter key >> combo? Ask since while it's been a
while since had anything to do with >> it, and probably also depends on
where/when UAC is coming up, I did >> manage to work around it at least
once, quite a while ago like that - as >> in UAC came up, but, under
normal windows operation mode, I hit windows >> key + enter, and it
could read the UAC dialogue, to allow me to allow >> something else to
happen, and then turn off UAC. >> >> >> Good
luck >> >> >> Jacob Kruger >> Blind
Biker >> Skype: BlindZA >> "Resistance is futile, but,
acceptance is versatile..." >> >> On 2016-08-09 9:24 AM,
Christo de Klerk wrote: >>> Hi
Joseph >>> >>> I can't, because I can't do anything on
that computer; the UAC dialog >>> is there all the time, I can't get
it out of the way. I can run >>> Narrator, but I still can't get
around the UAC dialog. It must be a >>> modal window that one cannot
get rid of. >>> >>>
Regards >>> >>>
Christo >>> >>> >>> On 2016/08/09 9:03 AM,
Joseph Lee wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> Hmmm... Let's try
this: download latest snapshot again, then run >>>> Narrator and
try installing NVDA while Narrator is running. >>>>
Cheers, >>>> Joseph >>>> >>>>
-----Original Message----- >>>> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of >>>> Christo de
Klerk >>>> Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 11:58
PM >>>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io>>>>
Subject: [nvda] Problem with NVDA and UAC dialogs after
Anniversary >>>> Update >>>> >>>>
Hello Joseph >>>> >>>> Ok, I brought the
conversation to this list and I have copied our >>>>
correspondence below for your reference. >>>> >>>>
In response to your question, yes, it is an installed copy of
the >>>> latest snapshot of NVDA. My problem is that, when I
start up the >>>> laptop, it automatically tries to run NVDA and
then goes into this >>>> loop; it doesn't matter if I respond
with Yes or No. This means I >>>> can't get to do anything on the
machine. I thought that, if I could >>>> at least get into the
File Explorer, I could delete the NVDA >>>> executable, so that
it can't try to open. My goodness, this is such a >>>> mess; I
hope you have some advice for me. >>>> >>>> Kind
regards >>>> >>>>
Christo >>>> >>>> Correspondence
below: >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> This is
odd indeed... >>>> Is this with an installed copy of NVDA? If so,
this should not cause >>>> issues you've described. Sounds like
NVDA is trying to run the >>>> installer without realizing that
it's already installed (that's one >>>>
possibility). >>>> If you don't mind, let's talk about this on
the NVDA mailing list. >>>> Cheers, >>>>
Joseph >>>> >>>> -----Original
Message----- >>>> From: win10@win10.groups.io
[mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf >>>> Of Christo de
Klerk >>>> Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 12:17
PM >>>> To: win10@win10.groups.io>>>>
Subject: Re: [win10] After Anniversary Update NVDA no longer
reads >>>> UAC pop-up
dialogs >>>> >>>>
Joseph >>>> >>>> On my laptop I now moved the
level up to 2 (67%), but I got myself >>>> into a strange and
very serious situation. When NVDA starts, the UAC >>>> dialog
pops up and it is spoken, but I can't get out of it. Whether
I >>>> press Yes or No, the dialog keeps coming back. It goes
into a loop >>>> and I can't do anything else on my computer. I
can't even close NVDA >>>> to get Narrator up to change the UAC
level. The dialog keeps coming >>>> back all the time. The
computer is absolutely unusable. Do you have >>>> any idea how I
can get out of the loop and get to the place where I >>>> can
bring down the UAC level again. I really have no idea what to
do. >>>> Please help. I hope you
can. >>>> >>>> Kind
regards >>>> >>>>
Christo >>>> >>>> >>>> On
2016/08/08 8:53 PM, Joseph Lee wrote: >>>>
Hi, >>>> As for why UAC keeps asking for permission whenever NVDA
runs, I >>>> don't know. >>>> As for UAC not
reading properly if level is set to 1: this is a known >>>>
problem. NV Access is aware of this issue as we speak. >>>>
Cheers, >>>> Joseph >>>> >>>>
-----Original Message----- >>>> From: win10@win10.groups.io
[mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf >>>> Of Christo de
Klerk >>>> Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 11:47
AM >>>> To: win10@win10.groups.io>>>>
Subject: Re: [win10] After Anniversary Update NVDA no longer
reads >>>> UAC pop-up
dialogs >>>> >>>> Hi
Joseph >>>> >>>> Thank you for the response. It
makes sense then. I will change the >>>> level and try again. On
my desktop the level is 1 (33%). On my laptop >>>> the level is 0
(0%). I had it on 33%, but for some reason then, every >>>> time
NVDA started, the UAC dialog popped up requesting permission,
so >>>> I dragged it down to 0% and that issue went away. Do you
have any >>>> idea why this was
happening? >>>> >>>> Thank you so much for always
being ready to assist. >>>> >>>> Kind
regards >>>> >>>>
Christo >>>> >>>> >>>> On
2016/08/08 8:35 PM, Joseph Lee wrote: >>>>
Hi, >>>> For those experiencing this problem: what is your UAC
level set to? >>>> To find out, go to Control Panel/User
Accounts/change User Account >>>> Control Settings and you should
see a slider. In order for UAC fix to >>>> work correctly, UAC
level must be set to level 2 (67%) or higher. >>>>
Cheers, >>>> Joseph >>>> >>>>
-----Original Message----- >>>> From: win10@win10.groups.io
[mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf >>>> Of Christo de
Klerk >>>> Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 6:40
AM >>>> To: win10@win10.groups.io>>>>
Subject: Re: [win10] After Anniversary Update NVDA no longer
reads >>>> UAC pop-up
dialogs >>>> >>>> Hi
Joseph >>>> >>>> I am glad this matter is
receiving attention, but I have to say that >>>> I am using the
latest snapshot and it is definitely not reading the >>>> content
of the UAC dialogs. I am using Version:
next-13485,10f249e8. >>>> >>>> Kind
regards >>>> >>>>
Christo >>>> >>>> >>>> On
2016/08/08 10:12 AM, Joseph Lee wrote: >>>>
Hi, >>>> Ah yes, it was a pleasure to investigate this issue a
few weeks ago. >>>> Fix included as part of 2016.3 (latest master
and next snapshots >>>> contains the fix). >>>>
Cheers, >>>> Joseph >>>> >>>>
-----Original Message----- >>>> From: win10@win10.groups.io
[mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf >>>> Of Christo de
Klerk >>>> Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 1:02
AM >>>> To: win10@win10.groups.io>>>>
Subject: [win10] After Anniversary Update NVDA no longer reads
UAC >>>> pop-up dialogs >>>> >>>>
Hello all >>>> >>>> I have noticed on both my
computers that after the Anniversary Update >>>> NVDA no longer
speak the User Access Control dialogs which pop up to >>>> ask
your permission to do certain things. I know one can simply
type >>>> Alt+y for yes or Alt+n for no, but one never knows what
else might be >>>> shown in such a pop-up. Dos anyone know of a
fix for this? >>>> >>>> Kind
regards >>>> >>>>
Christo >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > >
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Re: Problem with NVDA and UAC dialogs after Anniversary Update
Hi Gene
In my case NVDA read those dialogs; in fact I heard them so many times, I almost couldn't handle it anymore. Both the Yes and No buttons were present, plus a link for more information and another link to change notification levels. Unfortunately all these controls just made the dialog loop again.
Kind regards
Christo
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On 2016/08/09 5:54 PM, Gene wrote: No, that theory isn't correct. You probably have the problem I wrote about in my earlier messages, but I don't know that. There is some sort of problem that I wrote about earlier. It causes the yes button to be disabled in UAC. I don't know if that is your problem because I don't know if you have successfully used UAC in other contexts but the initial UAC setting is not the cause of this problem.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Christo de Klerk
Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2016 10:32 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problem with NVDA and UAC dialogs after Anniversary Update
I have a theory as to what caused this very strange problem I
experienced. I think the UAC security level at the time when NVDA is
installed, determines how NVDA and UAC will interface. Let me try and
explain what I mean with actual examples. On my desktop the security
level is and was 34 when I installed NVDA. NVDA works well, it starts up
fine, no problem, except that it doesn't read the content of the UAC
dialog when permission is requested for something. If I then type alt+y
for yes, all is fine.
On my laptop things are different. The security level was set to 0 when
I installed NVDA. At that level NVDA worked identically as the one on my
desktop. I then pushed up the security level on my laptop to 34. Now,
whenever NVDA was launched, UAC requested permission, but Alt+y did the
trick. Next I moved the level up to 67 and all hell broke loose.
It seems, therefore, to get NVDA on my laptop to operate properly, I
must uninstall it, then shift up UAC level to 67 and then reinstall NVDA
at that level.
I hope this makes sense. This is how things look to me.
Kind regards
Christo
On 2016/08/09 4:47 PM, Gene wrote:
The original message specifically states that whether yes or no is used, NVDA doesn't run and it's a loop that cannot be gotten out of. It appears that this occcurs before anything else can be done. I wonder if yes is even available in the UAC dialog? Some people have a problem in Windows 10 where the yes button disappears from the UAC dialog. If that is true, the problem is not an NVDA problem but some sort of Windows problem. There is a web site that gives what is claimed to be a fix for this, which, I believe, involves running in Safe Mode. I don't know how effective this is. I've seen this discussed on another list.
To find information do an Internet search for something like no yes button UAC dialog Windows 10
I won't provide a specific link because I don't know how many results there are or which might be the best.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Jacob Kruger
Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2016 3:08 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problem with NVDA and UAC dialogs after Anniversary Update
To try fire up narrator, are you using the windows key + enter key
combo? Ask since while it's been a while since had anything to do with
it, and probably also depends on where/when UAC is coming up, I did
manage to work around it at least once, quite a while ago like that - as
in UAC came up, but, under normal windows operation mode, I hit windows
key + enter, and it could read the UAC dialogue, to allow me to allow
something else to happen, and then turn off UAC.
Good luck
Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."
On 2016-08-09 9:24 AM, Christo de Klerk wrote:
Hi Joseph
I can't, because I can't do anything on that computer; the UAC dialog
is there all the time, I can't get it out of the way. I can run
Narrator, but I still can't get around the UAC dialog. It must be a
modal window that one cannot get rid of.
Regards
Christo
On 2016/08/09 9:03 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
Hmmm... Let's try this: download latest snapshot again, then run
Narrator and try installing NVDA while Narrator is running.
Cheers,
Joseph
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Christo de Klerk
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 11:58 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Problem with NVDA and UAC dialogs after Anniversary
Update
Hello Joseph
Ok, I brought the conversation to this list and I have copied our
correspondence below for your reference.
In response to your question, yes, it is an installed copy of the
latest snapshot of NVDA. My problem is that, when I start up the
laptop, it automatically tries to run NVDA and then goes into this
loop; it doesn't matter if I respond with Yes or No. This means I
can't get to do anything on the machine. I thought that, if I could
at least get into the File Explorer, I could delete the NVDA
executable, so that it can't try to open. My goodness, this is such a
mess; I hope you have some advice for me.
Kind regards
Christo
Correspondence below:
Hi,
This is odd indeed...
Is this with an installed copy of NVDA? If so, this should not cause
issues you've described. Sounds like NVDA is trying to run the
installer without realizing that it's already installed (that's one
possibility).
If you don't mind, let's talk about this on the NVDA mailing list.
Cheers,
Joseph
-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf
Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 12:17 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] After Anniversary Update NVDA no longer reads
UAC pop-up dialogs
Joseph
On my laptop I now moved the level up to 2 (67%), but I got myself
into a strange and very serious situation. When NVDA starts, the UAC
dialog pops up and it is spoken, but I can't get out of it. Whether I
press Yes or No, the dialog keeps coming back. It goes into a loop
and I can't do anything else on my computer. I can't even close NVDA
to get Narrator up to change the UAC level. The dialog keeps coming
back all the time. The computer is absolutely unusable. Do you have
any idea how I can get out of the loop and get to the place where I
can bring down the UAC level again. I really have no idea what to do.
Please help. I hope you can.
Kind regards
Christo
On 2016/08/08 8:53 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
As for why UAC keeps asking for permission whenever NVDA runs, I
don't know.
As for UAC not reading properly if level is set to 1: this is a known
problem. NV Access is aware of this issue as we speak.
Cheers,
Joseph
-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf
Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 11:47 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] After Anniversary Update NVDA no longer reads
UAC pop-up dialogs
Hi Joseph
Thank you for the response. It makes sense then. I will change the
level and try again. On my desktop the level is 1 (33%). On my laptop
the level is 0 (0%). I had it on 33%, but for some reason then, every
time NVDA started, the UAC dialog popped up requesting permission, so
I dragged it down to 0% and that issue went away. Do you have any
idea why this was happening?
Thank you so much for always being ready to assist.
Kind regards
Christo
On 2016/08/08 8:35 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
For those experiencing this problem: what is your UAC level set to?
To find out, go to Control Panel/User Accounts/change User Account
Control Settings and you should see a slider. In order for UAC fix to
work correctly, UAC level must be set to level 2 (67%) or higher.
Cheers,
Joseph
-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf
Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 6:40 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] After Anniversary Update NVDA no longer reads
UAC pop-up dialogs
Hi Joseph
I am glad this matter is receiving attention, but I have to say that
I am using the latest snapshot and it is definitely not reading the
content of the UAC dialogs. I am using Version: next-13485,10f249e8.
Kind regards
Christo
On 2016/08/08 10:12 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
Ah yes, it was a pleasure to investigate this issue a few weeks ago.
Fix included as part of 2016.3 (latest master and next snapshots
contains the fix).
Cheers,
Joseph
-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf
Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 1:02 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: [win10] After Anniversary Update NVDA no longer reads UAC
pop-up dialogs
Hello all
I have noticed on both my computers that after the Anniversary Update
NVDA no longer speak the User Access Control dialogs which pop up to
ask your permission to do certain things. I know one can simply type
Alt+y for yes or Alt+n for no, but one never knows what else might be
shown in such a pop-up. Dos anyone know of a fix for this?
Kind regards
Christo
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Re: Problem with NVDA and UAC dialogs after Anniversary Update
No, that theory isn't correct. You probably
have the problem I wrote about in my earlier messages, but I don't know
that. There is some sort of problem that I wrote about earlier. It
causes the yes button to be disabled in UAC. I don't know if that is your
problem because I don't know if you have successfully used UAC in other contexts
but the initial UAC setting is not the cause of this problem.
Gene
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2016 10:32 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problem with NVDA and UAC dialogs after
Anniversary Update
I have a theory as to what caused
this very strange problem I experienced. I think the UAC security level at
the time when NVDA is installed, determines how NVDA and UAC will interface.
Let me try and explain what I mean with actual examples. On my desktop the
security level is and was 34 when I installed NVDA. NVDA works well, it
starts up fine, no problem, except that it doesn't read the content of the
UAC dialog when permission is requested for something. If I then type alt+y
for yes, all is fine. On my laptop things are different. The security
level was set to 0 when I installed NVDA. At that level NVDA worked
identically as the one on my desktop. I then pushed up the security level on
my laptop to 34. Now, whenever NVDA was launched, UAC requested permission,
but Alt+y did the trick. Next I moved the level up to 67 and all hell broke
loose. It seems, therefore, to get NVDA on my laptop to operate properly,
I must uninstall it, then shift up UAC level to 67 and then reinstall NVDA
at that level. I hope this makes sense. This is how things look to
me. Kind regards Christo On 2016/08/09 4:47 PM, Gene
wrote: > The original message specifically states that whether yes or no
is used, NVDA doesn't run and it's a loop that cannot be gotten out of. It
appears that this occcurs before anything else can be done. I wonder if
yes is even available in the UAC dialog? Some people have a problem in
Windows 10 where the yes button disappears from the UAC dialog. If that is
true, the problem is not an NVDA problem but some sort of Windows problem.
There is a web site that gives what is claimed to be a fix for this, which, I
believe, involves running in Safe Mode. I don't know how effective this
is. I've seen this discussed on another list. > > To find
information do an Internet search for something like no yes button UAC dialog
Windows 10 > > I won't provide a specific link because I don't know
how many results there are or which might be the best. > >
Gene > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Jacob
Kruger > Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2016 3:08 AM > To: nvda@nvda.groups.io> Subject: Re:
[nvda] Problem with NVDA and UAC dialogs after Anniversary
Update > > > To try fire up narrator, are you using the
windows key + enter key > combo? Ask since while it's been a while since
had anything to do with > it, and probably also depends on where/when UAC
is coming up, I did > manage to work around it at least once, quite a
while ago like that - as > in UAC came up, but, under normal windows
operation mode, I hit windows > key + enter, and it could read the UAC
dialogue, to allow me to allow > something else to happen, and then turn
off UAC. > > > Good luck > > > Jacob
Kruger > Blind Biker > Skype: BlindZA > "Resistance is futile,
but, acceptance is versatile..." > > On 2016-08-09 9:24 AM, Christo
de Klerk wrote: >> Hi Joseph >> >> I can't, because I
can't do anything on that computer; the UAC dialog >> is there all the
time, I can't get it out of the way. I can run >> Narrator, but I still
can't get around the UAC dialog. It must be a >> modal window that one
cannot get rid of. >> >> Regards >> >>
Christo >> >> >> On 2016/08/09 9:03 AM, Joseph Lee
wrote: >>> Hi, >>> Hmmm... Let's try this: download
latest snapshot again, then run >>> Narrator and try installing NVDA
while Narrator is running. >>> Cheers, >>>
Joseph >>> >>> -----Original
Message----- >>> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of >>> Christo de
Klerk >>> Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 11:58 PM >>> To:
nvda@nvda.groups.io>>>
Subject: [nvda] Problem with NVDA and UAC dialogs after
Anniversary >>> Update >>> >>> Hello
Joseph >>> >>> Ok, I brought the conversation to this
list and I have copied our >>> correspondence below for your
reference. >>> >>> In response to your question, yes, it
is an installed copy of the >>> latest snapshot of NVDA. My problem
is that, when I start up the >>> laptop, it automatically tries to
run NVDA and then goes into this >>> loop; it doesn't matter if I
respond with Yes or No. This means I >>> can't get to do anything on
the machine. I thought that, if I could >>> at least get into the
File Explorer, I could delete the NVDA >>> executable, so that it
can't try to open. My goodness, this is such a >>> mess; I hope you
have some advice for me. >>> >>> Kind
regards >>> >>> Christo >>> >>>
Correspondence below: >>> >>> Hi, >>> This
is odd indeed... >>> Is this with an installed copy of NVDA? If so,
this should not cause >>> issues you've described. Sounds like NVDA
is trying to run the >>> installer without realizing that it's
already installed (that's one >>> possibility). >>> If
you don't mind, let's talk about this on the NVDA mailing list. >>>
Cheers, >>> Joseph >>> >>> -----Original
Message----- >>> From: win10@win10.groups.io
[mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf >>> Of Christo de
Klerk >>> Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 12:17 PM >>> To:
win10@win10.groups.io>>>
Subject: Re: [win10] After Anniversary Update NVDA no longer
reads >>> UAC pop-up dialogs >>> >>>
Joseph >>> >>> On my laptop I now moved the level up to
2 (67%), but I got myself >>> into a strange and very serious
situation. When NVDA starts, the UAC >>> dialog pops up and it is
spoken, but I can't get out of it. Whether I >>> press Yes or No,
the dialog keeps coming back. It goes into a loop >>> and I can't do
anything else on my computer. I can't even close NVDA >>> to get
Narrator up to change the UAC level. The dialog keeps coming >>>
back all the time. The computer is absolutely unusable. Do you
have >>> any idea how I can get out of the loop and get to the place
where I >>> can bring down the UAC level again. I really have no
idea what to do. >>> Please help. I hope you
can. >>> >>> Kind
regards >>> >>>
Christo >>> >>> >>> On 2016/08/08 8:53 PM,
Joseph Lee wrote: >>> Hi, >>> As for why UAC keeps
asking for permission whenever NVDA runs, I >>> don't
know. >>> As for UAC not reading properly if level is set to 1: this
is a known >>> problem. NV Access is aware of this issue as we
speak. >>> Cheers, >>>
Joseph >>> >>> -----Original
Message----- >>> From: win10@win10.groups.io
[mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf >>> Of Christo de
Klerk >>> Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 11:47 AM >>> To:
win10@win10.groups.io>>>
Subject: Re: [win10] After Anniversary Update NVDA no longer
reads >>> UAC pop-up dialogs >>> >>> Hi
Joseph >>> >>> Thank you for the response. It makes
sense then. I will change the >>> level and try again. On my desktop
the level is 1 (33%). On my laptop >>> the level is 0 (0%). I had it
on 33%, but for some reason then, every >>> time NVDA started, the
UAC dialog popped up requesting permission, so >>> I dragged it down
to 0% and that issue went away. Do you have any >>> idea why this
was happening? >>> >>> Thank you so much for always
being ready to assist. >>> >>> Kind
regards >>> >>>
Christo >>> >>> >>> On 2016/08/08 8:35 PM,
Joseph Lee wrote: >>> Hi, >>> For those experiencing
this problem: what is your UAC level set to? >>> To find out, go to
Control Panel/User Accounts/change User Account >>> Control Settings
and you should see a slider. In order for UAC fix to >>> work
correctly, UAC level must be set to level 2 (67%) or higher. >>>
Cheers, >>> Joseph >>> >>> -----Original
Message----- >>> From: win10@win10.groups.io
[mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf >>> Of Christo de
Klerk >>> Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 6:40 AM >>> To:
win10@win10.groups.io>>>
Subject: Re: [win10] After Anniversary Update NVDA no longer
reads >>> UAC pop-up dialogs >>> >>> Hi
Joseph >>> >>> I am glad this matter is receiving
attention, but I have to say that >>> I am using the latest snapshot
and it is definitely not reading the >>> content of the UAC dialogs.
I am using Version: next-13485,10f249e8. >>> >>> Kind
regards >>> >>>
Christo >>> >>> >>> On 2016/08/08 10:12 AM,
Joseph Lee wrote: >>> Hi, >>> Ah yes, it was a pleasure
to investigate this issue a few weeks ago. >>> Fix included as part
of 2016.3 (latest master and next snapshots >>> contains the
fix). >>> Cheers, >>>
Joseph >>> >>> -----Original
Message----- >>> From: win10@win10.groups.io
[mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf >>> Of Christo de
Klerk >>> Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 1:02 AM >>> To:
win10@win10.groups.io>>>
Subject: [win10] After Anniversary Update NVDA no longer reads
UAC >>> pop-up dialogs >>> >>> Hello
all >>> >>> I have noticed on both my computers that
after the Anniversary Update >>> NVDA no longer speak the User
Access Control dialogs which pop up to >>> ask your permission to do
certain things. I know one can simply type >>> Alt+y for yes or
Alt+n for no, but one never knows what else might be >>> shown in
such a pop-up. Dos anyone know of a fix for
this? >>> >>> Kind
regards >>> >>>
Christo >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
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Re: Problem with NVDA and UAC dialogs after Anniversary Update
I have a theory as to what caused this very strange problem I experienced. I think the UAC security level at the time when NVDA is installed, determines how NVDA and UAC will interface. Let me try and explain what I mean with actual examples. On my desktop the security level is and was 34 when I installed NVDA. NVDA works well, it starts up fine, no problem, except that it doesn't read the content of the UAC dialog when permission is requested for something. If I then type alt+y for yes, all is fine.
On my laptop things are different. The security level was set to 0 when I installed NVDA. At that level NVDA worked identically as the one on my desktop. I then pushed up the security level on my laptop to 34. Now, whenever NVDA was launched, UAC requested permission, but Alt+y did the trick. Next I moved the level up to 67 and all hell broke loose.
It seems, therefore, to get NVDA on my laptop to operate properly, I must uninstall it, then shift up UAC level to 67 and then reinstall NVDA at that level.
I hope this makes sense. This is how things look to me.
Kind regards
Christo
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
On 2016/08/09 4:47 PM, Gene wrote: The original message specifically states that whether yes or no is used, NVDA doesn't run and it's a loop that cannot be gotten out of. It appears that this occcurs before anything else can be done. I wonder if yes is even available in the UAC dialog? Some people have a problem in Windows 10 where the yes button disappears from the UAC dialog. If that is true, the problem is not an NVDA problem but some sort of Windows problem. There is a web site that gives what is claimed to be a fix for this, which, I believe, involves running in Safe Mode. I don't know how effective this is. I've seen this discussed on another list.
To find information do an Internet search for something like no yes button UAC dialog Windows 10
I won't provide a specific link because I don't know how many results there are or which might be the best.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Jacob Kruger
Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2016 3:08 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problem with NVDA and UAC dialogs after Anniversary Update
To try fire up narrator, are you using the windows key + enter key
combo? Ask since while it's been a while since had anything to do with
it, and probably also depends on where/when UAC is coming up, I did
manage to work around it at least once, quite a while ago like that - as
in UAC came up, but, under normal windows operation mode, I hit windows
key + enter, and it could read the UAC dialogue, to allow me to allow
something else to happen, and then turn off UAC.
Good luck
Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."
On 2016-08-09 9:24 AM, Christo de Klerk wrote:
Hi Joseph
I can't, because I can't do anything on that computer; the UAC dialog
is there all the time, I can't get it out of the way. I can run
Narrator, but I still can't get around the UAC dialog. It must be a
modal window that one cannot get rid of.
Regards
Christo
On 2016/08/09 9:03 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
Hmmm... Let's try this: download latest snapshot again, then run
Narrator and try installing NVDA while Narrator is running.
Cheers,
Joseph
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Christo de Klerk
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 11:58 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Problem with NVDA and UAC dialogs after Anniversary
Update
Hello Joseph
Ok, I brought the conversation to this list and I have copied our
correspondence below for your reference.
In response to your question, yes, it is an installed copy of the
latest snapshot of NVDA. My problem is that, when I start up the
laptop, it automatically tries to run NVDA and then goes into this
loop; it doesn't matter if I respond with Yes or No. This means I
can't get to do anything on the machine. I thought that, if I could
at least get into the File Explorer, I could delete the NVDA
executable, so that it can't try to open. My goodness, this is such a
mess; I hope you have some advice for me.
Kind regards
Christo
Correspondence below:
Hi,
This is odd indeed...
Is this with an installed copy of NVDA? If so, this should not cause
issues you've described. Sounds like NVDA is trying to run the
installer without realizing that it's already installed (that's one
possibility).
If you don't mind, let's talk about this on the NVDA mailing list.
Cheers,
Joseph
-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf
Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 12:17 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] After Anniversary Update NVDA no longer reads
UAC pop-up dialogs
Joseph
On my laptop I now moved the level up to 2 (67%), but I got myself
into a strange and very serious situation. When NVDA starts, the UAC
dialog pops up and it is spoken, but I can't get out of it. Whether I
press Yes or No, the dialog keeps coming back. It goes into a loop
and I can't do anything else on my computer. I can't even close NVDA
to get Narrator up to change the UAC level. The dialog keeps coming
back all the time. The computer is absolutely unusable. Do you have
any idea how I can get out of the loop and get to the place where I
can bring down the UAC level again. I really have no idea what to do.
Please help. I hope you can.
Kind regards
Christo
On 2016/08/08 8:53 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
As for why UAC keeps asking for permission whenever NVDA runs, I
don't know.
As for UAC not reading properly if level is set to 1: this is a known
problem. NV Access is aware of this issue as we speak.
Cheers,
Joseph
-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf
Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 11:47 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] After Anniversary Update NVDA no longer reads
UAC pop-up dialogs
Hi Joseph
Thank you for the response. It makes sense then. I will change the
level and try again. On my desktop the level is 1 (33%). On my laptop
the level is 0 (0%). I had it on 33%, but for some reason then, every
time NVDA started, the UAC dialog popped up requesting permission, so
I dragged it down to 0% and that issue went away. Do you have any
idea why this was happening?
Thank you so much for always being ready to assist.
Kind regards
Christo
On 2016/08/08 8:35 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
For those experiencing this problem: what is your UAC level set to?
To find out, go to Control Panel/User Accounts/change User Account
Control Settings and you should see a slider. In order for UAC fix to
work correctly, UAC level must be set to level 2 (67%) or higher.
Cheers,
Joseph
-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf
Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 6:40 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] After Anniversary Update NVDA no longer reads
UAC pop-up dialogs
Hi Joseph
I am glad this matter is receiving attention, but I have to say that
I am using the latest snapshot and it is definitely not reading the
content of the UAC dialogs. I am using Version: next-13485,10f249e8.
Kind regards
Christo
On 2016/08/08 10:12 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
Ah yes, it was a pleasure to investigate this issue a few weeks ago.
Fix included as part of 2016.3 (latest master and next snapshots
contains the fix).
Cheers,
Joseph
-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf
Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 1:02 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: [win10] After Anniversary Update NVDA no longer reads UAC
pop-up dialogs
Hello all
I have noticed on both my computers that after the Anniversary Update
NVDA no longer speak the User Access Control dialogs which pop up to
ask your permission to do certain things. I know one can simply type
Alt+y for yes or Alt+n for no, but one never knows what else might be
shown in such a pop-up. Dos anyone know of a fix for this?
Kind regards
Christo
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Re: Problem with NVDA and UAC dialogs after Anniversary Update
The original message specifically states that
whether yes or no is used, NVDA doesn't run and it's a loop that cannot be
gotten out of. It appears that this occcurs before anything else can be
done. I wonder if yes is even available in the UAC dialog? Some
people have a problem in Windows 10 where the yes button disappears from the UAC
dialog. If that is true, the problem is not an NVDA problem but some sort
of Windows problem. There is a web site that gives what is claimed to be a
fix for this, which, I believe, involves running in Safe Mode. I don't
know how effective this is. I've seen this discussed on another
list.
To find information do an Internet search for
something like no yes button UAC dialog Windows 10
I won't provide a specific link
because I don't know how many results there are or which might be the
best.
Gene
----- Original Message
-----
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2016 3:08 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problem with NVDA and UAC dialogs after
Anniversary Update
To try fire up narrator, are you using the windows key + enter
key combo? Ask since while it's been a while since had anything to do with
it, and probably also depends on where/when UAC is coming up, I did
manage to work around it at least once, quite a while ago like that - as
in UAC came up, but, under normal windows operation mode, I hit windows
key + enter, and it could read the UAC dialogue, to allow me to allow
something else to happen, and then turn off UAC. Good
luck Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA "Resistance is
futile, but, acceptance is versatile..." On 2016-08-09 9:24 AM, Christo
de Klerk wrote: > Hi Joseph > > I can't, because I can't do
anything on that computer; the UAC dialog > is there all the time, I
can't get it out of the way. I can run > Narrator, but I still can't get
around the UAC dialog. It must be a > modal window that one cannot get
rid of. > > Regards > > Christo > > >
On 2016/08/09 9:03 AM, Joseph Lee wrote: >> Hi, >> Hmmm...
Let's try this: download latest snapshot again, then run >> Narrator
and try installing NVDA while Narrator is running. >>
Cheers, >> Joseph >> >> -----Original
Message----- >> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of >> Christo de
Klerk >> Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 11:58 PM >> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io>> Subject:
[nvda] Problem with NVDA and UAC dialogs after Anniversary >>
Update >> >> Hello Joseph >> >> Ok, I
brought the conversation to this list and I have copied our >>
correspondence below for your reference. >> >> In response to
your question, yes, it is an installed copy of the >> latest snapshot
of NVDA. My problem is that, when I start up the >> laptop, it
automatically tries to run NVDA and then goes into this >> loop; it
doesn't matter if I respond with Yes or No. This means I >> can't get
to do anything on the machine. I thought that, if I could >> at least
get into the File Explorer, I could delete the NVDA >> executable, so
that it can't try to open. My goodness, this is such a >> mess; I hope
you have some advice for me. >> >> Kind
regards >> >> Christo >> >> Correspondence
below: >> >> Hi, >> This is odd indeed... >>
Is this with an installed copy of NVDA? If so, this should not cause
>> issues you've described. Sounds like NVDA is trying to run the
>> installer without realizing that it's already installed (that's one
>> possibility). >> If you don't mind, let's talk about this
on the NVDA mailing list. >> Cheers, >>
Joseph >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: win10@win10.groups.io
[mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf >> Of Christo de
Klerk >> Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 12:17 PM >> To: win10@win10.groups.io>>
Subject: Re: [win10] After Anniversary Update NVDA no longer reads >>
UAC pop-up dialogs >> >> Joseph >> >> On my
laptop I now moved the level up to 2 (67%), but I got myself >> into a
strange and very serious situation. When NVDA starts, the UAC >>
dialog pops up and it is spoken, but I can't get out of it. Whether I
>> press Yes or No, the dialog keeps coming back. It goes into a loop
>> and I can't do anything else on my computer. I can't even close
NVDA >> to get Narrator up to change the UAC level. The dialog keeps
coming >> back all the time. The computer is absolutely unusable. Do
you have >> any idea how I can get out of the loop and get to the
place where I >> can bring down the UAC level again. I really have no
idea what to do. >> Please help. I hope you
can. >> >> Kind regards >> >>
Christo >> >> >> On 2016/08/08 8:53 PM, Joseph Lee
wrote: >> Hi, >> As for why UAC keeps asking for permission
whenever NVDA runs, I >> don't know. >> As for UAC not
reading properly if level is set to 1: this is a known >> problem. NV
Access is aware of this issue as we speak. >> Cheers, >>
Joseph >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: win10@win10.groups.io
[mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf >> Of Christo de
Klerk >> Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 11:47 AM >> To: win10@win10.groups.io>>
Subject: Re: [win10] After Anniversary Update NVDA no longer reads >>
UAC pop-up dialogs >> >> Hi Joseph >> >>
Thank you for the response. It makes sense then. I will change the >>
level and try again. On my desktop the level is 1 (33%). On my laptop
>> the level is 0 (0%). I had it on 33%, but for some reason then,
every >> time NVDA started, the UAC dialog popped up requesting
permission, so >> I dragged it down to 0% and that issue went away. Do
you have any >> idea why this was happening? >> >>
Thank you so much for always being ready to assist. >> >> Kind
regards >> >> Christo >> >> >> On
2016/08/08 8:35 PM, Joseph Lee wrote: >> Hi, >> For those
experiencing this problem: what is your UAC level set to? >> To find
out, go to Control Panel/User Accounts/change User Account >> Control
Settings and you should see a slider. In order for UAC fix to >> work
correctly, UAC level must be set to level 2 (67%) or higher. >>
Cheers, >> Joseph >> >> -----Original
Message----- >> From: win10@win10.groups.io
[mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf >> Of Christo de
Klerk >> Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 6:40 AM >> To: win10@win10.groups.io>>
Subject: Re: [win10] After Anniversary Update NVDA no longer reads >>
UAC pop-up dialogs >> >> Hi Joseph >> >> I
am glad this matter is receiving attention, but I have to say that >>
I am using the latest snapshot and it is definitely not reading the >>
content of the UAC dialogs. I am using Version:
next-13485,10f249e8. >> >> Kind
regards >> >> Christo >> >> >> On
2016/08/08 10:12 AM, Joseph Lee wrote: >> Hi, >> Ah yes, it
was a pleasure to investigate this issue a few weeks ago. >> Fix
included as part of 2016.3 (latest master and next snapshots >>
contains the fix). >> Cheers, >>
Joseph >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: win10@win10.groups.io
[mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf >> Of Christo de
Klerk >> Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 1:02 AM >> To: win10@win10.groups.io>>
Subject: [win10] After Anniversary Update NVDA no longer reads UAC >>
pop-up dialogs >> >> Hello all >> >> I have
noticed on both my computers that after the Anniversary Update >> NVDA
no longer speak the User Access Control dialogs which pop up to >> ask
your permission to do certain things. I know one can simply type >>
Alt+y for yes or Alt+n for no, but one never knows what else might be
>> shown in such a pop-up. Dos anyone know of a fix for
this? >> >> Kind regards >> >>
Christo >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >
> > >
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Re: who knows where i can download ribbondisabler v3?
what you write is correct.
they tell us about the new version v 3.0.0.1 and they tell us you have to download that new version but is not downloadable at all!
cheers
paul otter
Op 9-8-2016 om 10:21 schreef Salva Doménech Miguel via Groups.io:
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
Hi.
No, in the website we can read the changelog and download the previous version, but not the 3.0 version.
Cheers
Saludos
Salva
kibayasd@yahoo.com
He creado el grupo Bibliófilos, sobre libros y todo lo relacionado con ellos. Si te interesa envíame un correo electrónico o subscríbete enviando un correo en blanco a bibliofilos+subscribe@googlegroups.com
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From: "Gene New Zealand" <hurrikennyandopo@outlook.co.nz>
Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2016 7:17 AM
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] who knows where i can download ribbondisabler v3?
I have not downloaded from this site, but it looks like the version you
want at http://winaero.com/comment.php?comment.news.20
Gene nz
On 9/08/2016 5:01 PM, P. Otter wrote:
hello all,
from this forum i've found ribbondisabler but i've version 2.
when i go to the site, i only can find the download for version 2 or
version 2.5.
they tell me on the same site there is a version 3 availlable. when i
use windows 10 with the newest update, i have to use v3 else i get a
black screen.
so who can post the link for version 3 of the ribbondisabler?
thanks in advance
paul otter
--
Check out my website for nvda tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net
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Re: Problem with NVDA and UAC dialogs after Anniversary Update
Christo, glad you got it sorted, and, you can disregard my off-list message...<smile>
Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
On 2016-08-09 10:56 AM, Christo de Klerk wrote: Hello all
Just to let you know that I managed to recover from my dilemma with the help of a pair of good working eyes. On shutdown my friend found a way to get into Troubleshooting and from there we were able to do a system restore. Fortunately I had a restore point on Saturday, so no real harm done and the machine is working fine. I don't believe the problem with the UAC dialog box is fixed, so I definitely will not move it up to 67% again, but I can live with that; the rest is fine.
I want to use this opportunity to thank all of you who tried to help and give suggestions. You guys are always so ready with your help. It is appreciated.
I cannot tell you how relieved I am.
Kind regards
Christo
On 2016/08/09 10:36 AM, Christo de Klerk wrote:
No, unfortunately not.
Regards
Christo
On 2016/08/09 10:29 AM, Jacob Kruger wrote:
Christo, not directly related, but, don't suppose you've got any of the windows PE images installed on a flash drive, or DVD lying around anywhere?
That might let you make changes to file system, even if not letting you boot up machine normally as such?
Stay well
Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."
On 2016-08-09 10:19 AM, Christo de Klerk wrote:
It could be, but how do I get into the system to fix anyting?
Regards
Christo
On 2016/08/09 10:00 AM, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
Not seen this one before. Could it be the synth in use in the installed copy is being clobbered?
Brian
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2016 8:03 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problem with NVDA and UAC dialogs after Anniversary Update
Hi,
Hmmm... Let's try this: download latest snapshot again, then run Narrator and try installing NVDA while Narrator is running.
Cheers,
Joseph
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 11:58 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Problem with NVDA and UAC dialogs after Anniversary Update
Hello Joseph
Ok, I brought the conversation to this list and I have copied our correspondence below for your reference.
In response to your question, yes, it is an installed copy of the latest snapshot of NVDA. My problem is that, when I start up the laptop, it automatically tries to run NVDA and then goes into this loop; it doesn't matter if I respond with Yes or No. This means I can't get to do anything on the machine. I thought that, if I could at least get into the File Explorer, I could delete the NVDA executable, so that it can't try to open. My goodness, this is such a mess; I hope you have some advice for me.
Kind regards
Christo
Correspondence below:
Hi,
This is odd indeed...
Is this with an installed copy of NVDA? If so, this should not cause issues you've described. Sounds like NVDA is trying to run the installer without realizing that it's already installed (that's one possibility).
If you don't mind, let's talk about this on the NVDA mailing list.
Cheers,
Joseph
-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 12:17 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] After Anniversary Update NVDA no longer reads UAC pop-up dialogs
Joseph
On my laptop I now moved the level up to 2 (67%), but I got myself into a strange and very serious situation. When NVDA starts, the UAC dialog pops up and it is spoken, but I can't get out of it. Whether I press Yes or No, the dialog keeps coming back. It goes into a loop and I can't do anything else on my computer. I can't even close NVDA to get Narrator up to change the UAC level. The dialog keeps coming back all the time. The computer is absolutely unusable. Do you have any idea how I can get out of the loop and get to the place where I can bring down the UAC level again. I really have no idea what to do. Please help. I hope you can.
Kind regards
Christo
On 2016/08/08 8:53 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
As for why UAC keeps asking for permission whenever NVDA runs, I don't know.
As for UAC not reading properly if level is set to 1: this is a known problem. NV Access is aware of this issue as we speak.
Cheers,
Joseph
-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 11:47 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] After Anniversary Update NVDA no longer reads UAC pop-up dialogs
Hi Joseph
Thank you for the response. It makes sense then. I will change the level and try again. On my desktop the level is 1 (33%). On my laptop the level is 0 (0%). I had it on 33%, but for some reason then, every time NVDA started, the UAC dialog popped up requesting permission, so I dragged it down to 0% and that issue went away. Do you have any idea why this was happening?
Thank you so much for always being ready to assist.
Kind regards
Christo
On 2016/08/08 8:35 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
For those experiencing this problem: what is your UAC level set to? To find out, go to Control Panel/User Accounts/change User Account Control Settings and you should see a slider. In order for UAC fix to work correctly, UAC level must be set to level 2 (67%) or higher.
Cheers,
Joseph
-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 6:40 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] After Anniversary Update NVDA no longer reads UAC pop-up dialogs
Hi Joseph
I am glad this matter is receiving attention, but I have to say that I am using the latest snapshot and it is definitely not reading the content of the UAC dialogs. I am using Version: next-13485,10f249e8.
Kind regards
Christo
On 2016/08/08 10:12 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
Ah yes, it was a pleasure to investigate this issue a few weeks ago. Fix included as part of 2016.3 (latest master and next snapshots contains the fix).
Cheers,
Joseph
-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 1:02 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: [win10] After Anniversary Update NVDA no longer reads UAC pop-up dialogs
Hello all
I have noticed on both my computers that after the Anniversary Update NVDA no longer speak the User Access Control dialogs which pop up to ask your permission to do certain things. I know one can simply type Alt+y for yes or Alt+n for no, but one never knows what else might be shown in such a pop-up. Dos anyone know of a fix for this?
Kind regards
Christo
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Re: Problem with NVDA and UAC dialogs after Anniversary Update
Hello all
Just to let you know that I managed to recover from my dilemma with the help of a pair of good working eyes. On shutdown my friend found a way to get into Troubleshooting and from there we were able to do a system restore. Fortunately I had a restore point on Saturday, so no real harm done and the machine is working fine. I don't believe the problem with the UAC dialog box is fixed, so I definitely will not move it up to 67% again, but I can live with that; the rest is fine.
I want to use this opportunity to thank all of you who tried to help and give suggestions. You guys are always so ready with your help. It is appreciated.
I cannot tell you how relieved I am.
Kind regards
Christo
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On 2016/08/09 10:36 AM, Christo de Klerk wrote: No, unfortunately not.
Regards
Christo
On 2016/08/09 10:29 AM, Jacob Kruger wrote:
Christo, not directly related, but, don't suppose you've got any of the windows PE images installed on a flash drive, or DVD lying around anywhere?
That might let you make changes to file system, even if not letting you boot up machine normally as such?
Stay well
Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."
On 2016-08-09 10:19 AM, Christo de Klerk wrote:
It could be, but how do I get into the system to fix anyting?
Regards
Christo
On 2016/08/09 10:00 AM, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
Not seen this one before. Could it be the synth in use in the installed copy is being clobbered?
Brian
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2016 8:03 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problem with NVDA and UAC dialogs after Anniversary Update
Hi,
Hmmm... Let's try this: download latest snapshot again, then run Narrator and try installing NVDA while Narrator is running.
Cheers,
Joseph
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 11:58 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Problem with NVDA and UAC dialogs after Anniversary Update
Hello Joseph
Ok, I brought the conversation to this list and I have copied our correspondence below for your reference.
In response to your question, yes, it is an installed copy of the latest snapshot of NVDA. My problem is that, when I start up the laptop, it automatically tries to run NVDA and then goes into this loop; it doesn't matter if I respond with Yes or No. This means I can't get to do anything on the machine. I thought that, if I could at least get into the File Explorer, I could delete the NVDA executable, so that it can't try to open. My goodness, this is such a mess; I hope you have some advice for me.
Kind regards
Christo
Correspondence below:
Hi,
This is odd indeed...
Is this with an installed copy of NVDA? If so, this should not cause issues you've described. Sounds like NVDA is trying to run the installer without realizing that it's already installed (that's one possibility).
If you don't mind, let's talk about this on the NVDA mailing list.
Cheers,
Joseph
-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 12:17 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] After Anniversary Update NVDA no longer reads UAC pop-up dialogs
Joseph
On my laptop I now moved the level up to 2 (67%), but I got myself into a strange and very serious situation. When NVDA starts, the UAC dialog pops up and it is spoken, but I can't get out of it. Whether I press Yes or No, the dialog keeps coming back. It goes into a loop and I can't do anything else on my computer. I can't even close NVDA to get Narrator up to change the UAC level. The dialog keeps coming back all the time. The computer is absolutely unusable. Do you have any idea how I can get out of the loop and get to the place where I can bring down the UAC level again. I really have no idea what to do. Please help. I hope you can.
Kind regards
Christo
On 2016/08/08 8:53 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
As for why UAC keeps asking for permission whenever NVDA runs, I don't know.
As for UAC not reading properly if level is set to 1: this is a known problem. NV Access is aware of this issue as we speak.
Cheers,
Joseph
-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 11:47 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] After Anniversary Update NVDA no longer reads UAC pop-up dialogs
Hi Joseph
Thank you for the response. It makes sense then. I will change the level and try again. On my desktop the level is 1 (33%). On my laptop the level is 0 (0%). I had it on 33%, but for some reason then, every time NVDA started, the UAC dialog popped up requesting permission, so I dragged it down to 0% and that issue went away. Do you have any idea why this was happening?
Thank you so much for always being ready to assist.
Kind regards
Christo
On 2016/08/08 8:35 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
For those experiencing this problem: what is your UAC level set to? To find out, go to Control Panel/User Accounts/change User Account Control Settings and you should see a slider. In order for UAC fix to work correctly, UAC level must be set to level 2 (67%) or higher.
Cheers,
Joseph
-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 6:40 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] After Anniversary Update NVDA no longer reads UAC pop-up dialogs
Hi Joseph
I am glad this matter is receiving attention, but I have to say that I am using the latest snapshot and it is definitely not reading the content of the UAC dialogs. I am using Version: next-13485,10f249e8.
Kind regards
Christo
On 2016/08/08 10:12 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
Ah yes, it was a pleasure to investigate this issue a few weeks ago. Fix included as part of 2016.3 (latest master and next snapshots contains the fix).
Cheers,
Joseph
-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 1:02 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: [win10] After Anniversary Update NVDA no longer reads UAC pop-up dialogs
Hello all
I have noticed on both my computers that after the Anniversary Update NVDA no longer speak the User Access Control dialogs which pop up to ask your permission to do certain things. I know one can simply type Alt+y for yes or Alt+n for no, but one never knows what else might be shown in such a pop-up. Dos anyone know of a fix for this?
Kind regards
Christo
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Re: Problem with NVDA and UAC dialogs after Anniversary Update
No, unfortunately not.
Regards
Christo
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
On 2016/08/09 10:29 AM, Jacob Kruger wrote: Christo, not directly related, but, don't suppose you've got any of the windows PE images installed on a flash drive, or DVD lying around anywhere?
That might let you make changes to file system, even if not letting you boot up machine normally as such?
Stay well
Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."
On 2016-08-09 10:19 AM, Christo de Klerk wrote:
It could be, but how do I get into the system to fix anyting?
Regards
Christo
On 2016/08/09 10:00 AM, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
Not seen this one before. Could it be the synth in use in the installed copy is being clobbered?
Brian
bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2016 8:03 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problem with NVDA and UAC dialogs after Anniversary Update
Hi,
Hmmm... Let's try this: download latest snapshot again, then run Narrator and try installing NVDA while Narrator is running.
Cheers,
Joseph
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 11:58 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Problem with NVDA and UAC dialogs after Anniversary Update
Hello Joseph
Ok, I brought the conversation to this list and I have copied our correspondence below for your reference.
In response to your question, yes, it is an installed copy of the latest snapshot of NVDA. My problem is that, when I start up the laptop, it automatically tries to run NVDA and then goes into this loop; it doesn't matter if I respond with Yes or No. This means I can't get to do anything on the machine. I thought that, if I could at least get into the File Explorer, I could delete the NVDA executable, so that it can't try to open. My goodness, this is such a mess; I hope you have some advice for me.
Kind regards
Christo
Correspondence below:
Hi,
This is odd indeed...
Is this with an installed copy of NVDA? If so, this should not cause issues you've described. Sounds like NVDA is trying to run the installer without realizing that it's already installed (that's one possibility).
If you don't mind, let's talk about this on the NVDA mailing list.
Cheers,
Joseph
-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 12:17 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] After Anniversary Update NVDA no longer reads UAC pop-up dialogs
Joseph
On my laptop I now moved the level up to 2 (67%), but I got myself into a strange and very serious situation. When NVDA starts, the UAC dialog pops up and it is spoken, but I can't get out of it. Whether I press Yes or No, the dialog keeps coming back. It goes into a loop and I can't do anything else on my computer. I can't even close NVDA to get Narrator up to change the UAC level. The dialog keeps coming back all the time. The computer is absolutely unusable. Do you have any idea how I can get out of the loop and get to the place where I can bring down the UAC level again. I really have no idea what to do. Please help. I hope you can.
Kind regards
Christo
On 2016/08/08 8:53 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
As for why UAC keeps asking for permission whenever NVDA runs, I don't know.
As for UAC not reading properly if level is set to 1: this is a known problem. NV Access is aware of this issue as we speak.
Cheers,
Joseph
-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 11:47 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] After Anniversary Update NVDA no longer reads UAC pop-up dialogs
Hi Joseph
Thank you for the response. It makes sense then. I will change the level and try again. On my desktop the level is 1 (33%). On my laptop the level is 0 (0%). I had it on 33%, but for some reason then, every time NVDA started, the UAC dialog popped up requesting permission, so I dragged it down to 0% and that issue went away. Do you have any idea why this was happening?
Thank you so much for always being ready to assist.
Kind regards
Christo
On 2016/08/08 8:35 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
For those experiencing this problem: what is your UAC level set to? To find out, go to Control Panel/User Accounts/change User Account Control Settings and you should see a slider. In order for UAC fix to work correctly, UAC level must be set to level 2 (67%) or higher.
Cheers,
Joseph
-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 6:40 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] After Anniversary Update NVDA no longer reads UAC pop-up dialogs
Hi Joseph
I am glad this matter is receiving attention, but I have to say that I am using the latest snapshot and it is definitely not reading the content of the UAC dialogs. I am using Version: next-13485,10f249e8.
Kind regards
Christo
On 2016/08/08 10:12 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
Ah yes, it was a pleasure to investigate this issue a few weeks ago. Fix included as part of 2016.3 (latest master and next snapshots contains the fix).
Cheers,
Joseph
-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 1:02 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: [win10] After Anniversary Update NVDA no longer reads UAC pop-up dialogs
Hello all
I have noticed on both my computers that after the Anniversary Update NVDA no longer speak the User Access Control dialogs which pop up to ask your permission to do certain things. I know one can simply type Alt+y for yes or Alt+n for no, but one never knows what else might be shown in such a pop-up. Dos anyone know of a fix for this?
Kind regards
Christo
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Re: Problem with NVDA and UAC dialogs after Anniversary Update
Yes, I bring up Narrator with Win+Enter, but I can't do anything with it, because the UAC dialog blocks everything.
Regards
Christo
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On 2016/08/09 10:08 AM, Jacob Kruger wrote: To try fire up narrator, are you using the windows key + enter key combo? Ask since while it's been a while since had anything to do with it, and probably also depends on where/when UAC is coming up, I did manage to work around it at least once, quite a while ago like that - as in UAC came up, but, under normal windows operation mode, I hit windows key + enter, and it could read the UAC dialogue, to allow me to allow something else to happen, and then turn off UAC.
Good luck
Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."
On 2016-08-09 9:24 AM, Christo de Klerk wrote:
Hi Joseph
I can't, because I can't do anything on that computer; the UAC dialog is there all the time, I can't get it out of the way. I can run Narrator, but I still can't get around the UAC dialog. It must be a modal window that one cannot get rid of.
Regards
Christo
On 2016/08/09 9:03 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
Hmmm... Let's try this: download latest snapshot again, then run Narrator and try installing NVDA while Narrator is running.
Cheers,
Joseph
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 11:58 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Problem with NVDA and UAC dialogs after Anniversary Update
Hello Joseph
Ok, I brought the conversation to this list and I have copied our correspondence below for your reference.
In response to your question, yes, it is an installed copy of the latest snapshot of NVDA. My problem is that, when I start up the laptop, it automatically tries to run NVDA and then goes into this loop; it doesn't matter if I respond with Yes or No. This means I can't get to do anything on the machine. I thought that, if I could at least get into the File Explorer, I could delete the NVDA executable, so that it can't try to open. My goodness, this is such a mess; I hope you have some advice for me.
Kind regards
Christo
Correspondence below:
Hi,
This is odd indeed...
Is this with an installed copy of NVDA? If so, this should not cause issues you've described. Sounds like NVDA is trying to run the installer without realizing that it's already installed (that's one possibility).
If you don't mind, let's talk about this on the NVDA mailing list.
Cheers,
Joseph
-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 12:17 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] After Anniversary Update NVDA no longer reads UAC pop-up dialogs
Joseph
On my laptop I now moved the level up to 2 (67%), but I got myself into a strange and very serious situation. When NVDA starts, the UAC dialog pops up and it is spoken, but I can't get out of it. Whether I press Yes or No, the dialog keeps coming back. It goes into a loop and I can't do anything else on my computer. I can't even close NVDA to get Narrator up to change the UAC level. The dialog keeps coming back all the time. The computer is absolutely unusable. Do you have any idea how I can get out of the loop and get to the place where I can bring down the UAC level again. I really have no idea what to do. Please help. I hope you can.
Kind regards
Christo
On 2016/08/08 8:53 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
As for why UAC keeps asking for permission whenever NVDA runs, I don't know.
As for UAC not reading properly if level is set to 1: this is a known problem. NV Access is aware of this issue as we speak.
Cheers,
Joseph
-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 11:47 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] After Anniversary Update NVDA no longer reads UAC pop-up dialogs
Hi Joseph
Thank you for the response. It makes sense then. I will change the level and try again. On my desktop the level is 1 (33%). On my laptop the level is 0 (0%). I had it on 33%, but for some reason then, every time NVDA started, the UAC dialog popped up requesting permission, so I dragged it down to 0% and that issue went away. Do you have any idea why this was happening?
Thank you so much for always being ready to assist.
Kind regards
Christo
On 2016/08/08 8:35 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
For those experiencing this problem: what is your UAC level set to? To find out, go to Control Panel/User Accounts/change User Account Control Settings and you should see a slider. In order for UAC fix to work correctly, UAC level must be set to level 2 (67%) or higher.
Cheers,
Joseph
-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 6:40 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] After Anniversary Update NVDA no longer reads UAC pop-up dialogs
Hi Joseph
I am glad this matter is receiving attention, but I have to say that I am using the latest snapshot and it is definitely not reading the content of the UAC dialogs. I am using Version: next-13485,10f249e8.
Kind regards
Christo
On 2016/08/08 10:12 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
Ah yes, it was a pleasure to investigate this issue a few weeks ago. Fix included as part of 2016.3 (latest master and next snapshots contains the fix).
Cheers,
Joseph
-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 1:02 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: [win10] After Anniversary Update NVDA no longer reads UAC pop-up dialogs
Hello all
I have noticed on both my computers that after the Anniversary Update NVDA no longer speak the User Access Control dialogs which pop up to ask your permission to do certain things. I know one can simply type Alt+y for yes or Alt+n for no, but one never knows what else might be shown in such a pop-up. Dos anyone know of a fix for this?
Kind regards
Christo
|
|
|
Re: Problem with NVDA and UAC dialogs after Anniversary Update
Christo, not directly related, but, don't suppose you've got any of the windows PE images installed on a flash drive, or DVD lying around anywhere?
That might let you make changes to file system, even if not letting you boot up machine normally as such?
Stay well
Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
On 2016-08-09 10:19 AM, Christo de Klerk wrote: It could be, but how do I get into the system to fix anyting?
Regards
Christo
On 2016/08/09 10:00 AM, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
Not seen this one before. Could it be the synth in use in the installed copy is being clobbered?
Brian
bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2016 8:03 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problem with NVDA and UAC dialogs after Anniversary Update
Hi,
Hmmm... Let's try this: download latest snapshot again, then run Narrator and try installing NVDA while Narrator is running.
Cheers,
Joseph
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 11:58 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Problem with NVDA and UAC dialogs after Anniversary Update
Hello Joseph
Ok, I brought the conversation to this list and I have copied our correspondence below for your reference.
In response to your question, yes, it is an installed copy of the latest snapshot of NVDA. My problem is that, when I start up the laptop, it automatically tries to run NVDA and then goes into this loop; it doesn't matter if I respond with Yes or No. This means I can't get to do anything on the machine. I thought that, if I could at least get into the File Explorer, I could delete the NVDA executable, so that it can't try to open. My goodness, this is such a mess; I hope you have some advice for me.
Kind regards
Christo
Correspondence below:
Hi,
This is odd indeed...
Is this with an installed copy of NVDA? If so, this should not cause issues you've described. Sounds like NVDA is trying to run the installer without realizing that it's already installed (that's one possibility).
If you don't mind, let's talk about this on the NVDA mailing list.
Cheers,
Joseph
-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 12:17 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] After Anniversary Update NVDA no longer reads UAC pop-up dialogs
Joseph
On my laptop I now moved the level up to 2 (67%), but I got myself into a strange and very serious situation. When NVDA starts, the UAC dialog pops up and it is spoken, but I can't get out of it. Whether I press Yes or No, the dialog keeps coming back. It goes into a loop and I can't do anything else on my computer. I can't even close NVDA to get Narrator up to change the UAC level. The dialog keeps coming back all the time. The computer is absolutely unusable. Do you have any idea how I can get out of the loop and get to the place where I can bring down the UAC level again. I really have no idea what to do. Please help. I hope you can.
Kind regards
Christo
On 2016/08/08 8:53 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
As for why UAC keeps asking for permission whenever NVDA runs, I don't know.
As for UAC not reading properly if level is set to 1: this is a known problem. NV Access is aware of this issue as we speak.
Cheers,
Joseph
-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 11:47 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] After Anniversary Update NVDA no longer reads UAC pop-up dialogs
Hi Joseph
Thank you for the response. It makes sense then. I will change the level and try again. On my desktop the level is 1 (33%). On my laptop the level is 0 (0%). I had it on 33%, but for some reason then, every time NVDA started, the UAC dialog popped up requesting permission, so I dragged it down to 0% and that issue went away. Do you have any idea why this was happening?
Thank you so much for always being ready to assist.
Kind regards
Christo
On 2016/08/08 8:35 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
For those experiencing this problem: what is your UAC level set to? To find out, go to Control Panel/User Accounts/change User Account Control Settings and you should see a slider. In order for UAC fix to work correctly, UAC level must be set to level 2 (67%) or higher.
Cheers,
Joseph
-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 6:40 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] After Anniversary Update NVDA no longer reads UAC pop-up dialogs
Hi Joseph
I am glad this matter is receiving attention, but I have to say that I am using the latest snapshot and it is definitely not reading the content of the UAC dialogs. I am using Version: next-13485,10f249e8.
Kind regards
Christo
On 2016/08/08 10:12 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
Ah yes, it was a pleasure to investigate this issue a few weeks ago. Fix included as part of 2016.3 (latest master and next snapshots contains the fix).
Cheers,
Joseph
-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 1:02 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: [win10] After Anniversary Update NVDA no longer reads UAC pop-up dialogs
Hello all
I have noticed on both my computers that after the Anniversary Update NVDA no longer speak the User Access Control dialogs which pop up to ask your permission to do certain things. I know one can simply type Alt+y for yes or Alt+n for no, but one never knows what else might be shown in such a pop-up. Dos anyone know of a fix for this?
Kind regards
Christo
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Salva Doménech Miguel <kibayasd@...>
Hi. No, in the website we can read the changelog and download the previous version, but not the 3.0 version. Cheers Saludos Salva kibayasd@yahoo.com He creado el grupo Bibliófilos, sobre libros y todo lo relacionado con ellos. Si te interesa envíame un correo electrónico o subscríbete enviando un correo en blanco a bibliofilos+subscribe@googlegroups.com -------------------------------------------------- From: "Gene New Zealand" <hurrikennyandopo@outlook.co.nz> Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2016 7:17 AM To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Subject: Re: [nvda] who knows where i can download ribbondisabler v3? I have not downloaded from this site, but it looks like the version you
want at http://winaero.com/comment.php?comment.news.20
Gene nz
On 9/08/2016 5:01 PM, P. Otter wrote:
hello all,
from this forum i've found ribbondisabler but i've version 2.
when i go to the site, i only can find the download for version 2 or
version 2.5.
they tell me on the same site there is a version 3 availlable. when i
use windows 10 with the newest update, i have to use v3 else i get a
black screen.
so who can post the link for version 3 of the ribbondisabler?
thanks in advance
paul otter
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Re: Problem with NVDA and UAC dialogs after Anniversary Update
It could be, but how do I get into the system to fix anyting?
Regards
Christo
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On 2016/08/09 10:00 AM, Brian's Mail list account wrote: Not seen this one before. Could it be the synth in use in the installed copy is being clobbered?
Brian
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2016 8:03 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problem with NVDA and UAC dialogs after Anniversary Update
Hi,
Hmmm... Let's try this: download latest snapshot again, then run Narrator and try installing NVDA while Narrator is running.
Cheers,
Joseph
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 11:58 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Problem with NVDA and UAC dialogs after Anniversary Update
Hello Joseph
Ok, I brought the conversation to this list and I have copied our correspondence below for your reference.
In response to your question, yes, it is an installed copy of the latest snapshot of NVDA. My problem is that, when I start up the laptop, it automatically tries to run NVDA and then goes into this loop; it doesn't matter if I respond with Yes or No. This means I can't get to do anything on the machine. I thought that, if I could at least get into the File Explorer, I could delete the NVDA executable, so that it can't try to open. My goodness, this is such a mess; I hope you have some advice for me.
Kind regards
Christo
Correspondence below:
Hi,
This is odd indeed...
Is this with an installed copy of NVDA? If so, this should not cause issues you've described. Sounds like NVDA is trying to run the installer without realizing that it's already installed (that's one possibility).
If you don't mind, let's talk about this on the NVDA mailing list.
Cheers,
Joseph
-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 12:17 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] After Anniversary Update NVDA no longer reads UAC pop-up dialogs
Joseph
On my laptop I now moved the level up to 2 (67%), but I got myself into a strange and very serious situation. When NVDA starts, the UAC dialog pops up and it is spoken, but I can't get out of it. Whether I press Yes or No, the dialog keeps coming back. It goes into a loop and I can't do anything else on my computer. I can't even close NVDA to get Narrator up to change the UAC level. The dialog keeps coming back all the time. The computer is absolutely unusable. Do you have any idea how I can get out of the loop and get to the place where I can bring down the UAC level again. I really have no idea what to do. Please help. I hope you can.
Kind regards
Christo
On 2016/08/08 8:53 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
As for why UAC keeps asking for permission whenever NVDA runs, I don't know.
As for UAC not reading properly if level is set to 1: this is a known problem. NV Access is aware of this issue as we speak.
Cheers,
Joseph
-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 11:47 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] After Anniversary Update NVDA no longer reads UAC pop-up dialogs
Hi Joseph
Thank you for the response. It makes sense then. I will change the level and try again. On my desktop the level is 1 (33%). On my laptop the level is 0 (0%). I had it on 33%, but for some reason then, every time NVDA started, the UAC dialog popped up requesting permission, so I dragged it down to 0% and that issue went away. Do you have any idea why this was happening?
Thank you so much for always being ready to assist.
Kind regards
Christo
On 2016/08/08 8:35 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
For those experiencing this problem: what is your UAC level set to? To find out, go to Control Panel/User Accounts/change User Account Control Settings and you should see a slider. In order for UAC fix to work correctly, UAC level must be set to level 2 (67%) or higher.
Cheers,
Joseph
-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 6:40 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] After Anniversary Update NVDA no longer reads UAC pop-up dialogs
Hi Joseph
I am glad this matter is receiving attention, but I have to say that I am using the latest snapshot and it is definitely not reading the content of the UAC dialogs. I am using Version: next-13485,10f249e8.
Kind regards
Christo
On 2016/08/08 10:12 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
Ah yes, it was a pleasure to investigate this issue a few weeks ago. Fix included as part of 2016.3 (latest master and next snapshots contains the fix).
Cheers,
Joseph
-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 1:02 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: [win10] After Anniversary Update NVDA no longer reads UAC pop-up dialogs
Hello all
I have noticed on both my computers that after the Anniversary Update NVDA no longer speak the User Access Control dialogs which pop up to ask your permission to do certain things. I know one can simply type Alt+y for yes or Alt+n for no, but one never knows what else might be shown in such a pop-up. Dos anyone know of a fix for this?
Kind regards
Christo
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Re: Problem with NVDA and UAC dialogs after Anniversary Update
Alt+y just let it keeps looping. Restarting doesn't help, because it loads NVDA on Startup and then it happens immediately.
Regards
Christo
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On 2016/08/09 9:33 AM, Joseph Lee wrote: Hi,
Even pressing Alt+Y doesn't help, and how about restarting your computer?
Cheers,
Joseph
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2016 12:24 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problem with NVDA and UAC dialogs after Anniversary Update
Hi Joseph
I can't, because I can't do anything on that computer; the UAC dialog is there all the time, I can't get it out of the way. I can run Narrator, but I still can't get around the UAC dialog. It must be a modal window that one cannot get rid of.
Regards
Christo
On 2016/08/09 9:03 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
Hmmm... Let's try this: download latest snapshot again, then run Narrator and try installing NVDA while Narrator is running.
Cheers,
Joseph
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Christo de Klerk
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 11:58 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Problem with NVDA and UAC dialogs after Anniversary
Update
Hello Joseph
Ok, I brought the conversation to this list and I have copied our correspondence below for your reference.
In response to your question, yes, it is an installed copy of the latest snapshot of NVDA. My problem is that, when I start up the laptop, it automatically tries to run NVDA and then goes into this loop; it doesn't matter if I respond with Yes or No. This means I can't get to do anything on the machine. I thought that, if I could at least get into the File Explorer, I could delete the NVDA executable, so that it can't try to open. My goodness, this is such a mess; I hope you have some advice for me.
Kind regards
Christo
Correspondence below:
Hi,
This is odd indeed...
Is this with an installed copy of NVDA? If so, this should not cause issues you've described. Sounds like NVDA is trying to run the installer without realizing that it's already installed (that's one possibility).
If you don't mind, let's talk about this on the NVDA mailing list.
Cheers,
Joseph
-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf
Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 12:17 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] After Anniversary Update NVDA no longer reads UAC
pop-up dialogs
Joseph
On my laptop I now moved the level up to 2 (67%), but I got myself into a strange and very serious situation. When NVDA starts, the UAC dialog pops up and it is spoken, but I can't get out of it. Whether I press Yes or No, the dialog keeps coming back. It goes into a loop and I can't do anything else on my computer. I can't even close NVDA to get Narrator up to change the UAC level. The dialog keeps coming back all the time. The computer is absolutely unusable. Do you have any idea how I can get out of the loop and get to the place where I can bring down the UAC level again. I really have no idea what to do. Please help. I hope you can.
Kind regards
Christo
On 2016/08/08 8:53 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
As for why UAC keeps asking for permission whenever NVDA runs, I don't know.
As for UAC not reading properly if level is set to 1: this is a known problem. NV Access is aware of this issue as we speak.
Cheers,
Joseph
-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf
Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 11:47 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] After Anniversary Update NVDA no longer reads UAC
pop-up dialogs
Hi Joseph
Thank you for the response. It makes sense then. I will change the level and try again. On my desktop the level is 1 (33%). On my laptop the level is 0 (0%). I had it on 33%, but for some reason then, every time NVDA started, the UAC dialog popped up requesting permission, so I dragged it down to 0% and that issue went away. Do you have any idea why this was happening?
Thank you so much for always being ready to assist.
Kind regards
Christo
On 2016/08/08 8:35 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
For those experiencing this problem: what is your UAC level set to? To find out, go to Control Panel/User Accounts/change User Account Control Settings and you should see a slider. In order for UAC fix to work correctly, UAC level must be set to level 2 (67%) or higher.
Cheers,
Joseph
-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf
Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 6:40 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] After Anniversary Update NVDA no longer reads UAC
pop-up dialogs
Hi Joseph
I am glad this matter is receiving attention, but I have to say that I am using the latest snapshot and it is definitely not reading the content of the UAC dialogs. I am using Version: next-13485,10f249e8.
Kind regards
Christo
On 2016/08/08 10:12 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
Ah yes, it was a pleasure to investigate this issue a few weeks ago. Fix included as part of 2016.3 (latest master and next snapshots contains the fix).
Cheers,
Joseph
-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf
Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 1:02 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: [win10] After Anniversary Update NVDA no longer reads UAC
pop-up dialogs
Hello all
I have noticed on both my computers that after the Anniversary Update NVDA no longer speak the User Access Control dialogs which pop up to ask your permission to do certain things. I know one can simply type Alt+y for yes or Alt+n for no, but one never knows what else might be shown in such a pop-up. Dos anyone know of a fix for this?
Kind regards
Christo
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Re: Problem with NVDA and UAC dialogs after Anniversary Update
To try fire up narrator, are you using the windows key + enter key combo? Ask since while it's been a while since had anything to do with it, and probably also depends on where/when UAC is coming up, I did manage to work around it at least once, quite a while ago like that - as in UAC came up, but, under normal windows operation mode, I hit windows key + enter, and it could read the UAC dialogue, to allow me to allow something else to happen, and then turn off UAC.
Good luck
Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."
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On 2016-08-09 9:24 AM, Christo de Klerk wrote: Hi Joseph
I can't, because I can't do anything on that computer; the UAC dialog is there all the time, I can't get it out of the way. I can run Narrator, but I still can't get around the UAC dialog. It must be a modal window that one cannot get rid of.
Regards
Christo
On 2016/08/09 9:03 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
Hmmm... Let's try this: download latest snapshot again, then run Narrator and try installing NVDA while Narrator is running.
Cheers,
Joseph
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 11:58 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Problem with NVDA and UAC dialogs after Anniversary Update
Hello Joseph
Ok, I brought the conversation to this list and I have copied our correspondence below for your reference.
In response to your question, yes, it is an installed copy of the latest snapshot of NVDA. My problem is that, when I start up the laptop, it automatically tries to run NVDA and then goes into this loop; it doesn't matter if I respond with Yes or No. This means I can't get to do anything on the machine. I thought that, if I could at least get into the File Explorer, I could delete the NVDA executable, so that it can't try to open. My goodness, this is such a mess; I hope you have some advice for me.
Kind regards
Christo
Correspondence below:
Hi,
This is odd indeed...
Is this with an installed copy of NVDA? If so, this should not cause issues you've described. Sounds like NVDA is trying to run the installer without realizing that it's already installed (that's one possibility).
If you don't mind, let's talk about this on the NVDA mailing list.
Cheers,
Joseph
-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 12:17 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] After Anniversary Update NVDA no longer reads UAC pop-up dialogs
Joseph
On my laptop I now moved the level up to 2 (67%), but I got myself into a strange and very serious situation. When NVDA starts, the UAC dialog pops up and it is spoken, but I can't get out of it. Whether I press Yes or No, the dialog keeps coming back. It goes into a loop and I can't do anything else on my computer. I can't even close NVDA to get Narrator up to change the UAC level. The dialog keeps coming back all the time. The computer is absolutely unusable. Do you have any idea how I can get out of the loop and get to the place where I can bring down the UAC level again. I really have no idea what to do. Please help. I hope you can.
Kind regards
Christo
On 2016/08/08 8:53 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
As for why UAC keeps asking for permission whenever NVDA runs, I don't know.
As for UAC not reading properly if level is set to 1: this is a known problem. NV Access is aware of this issue as we speak.
Cheers,
Joseph
-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 11:47 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] After Anniversary Update NVDA no longer reads UAC pop-up dialogs
Hi Joseph
Thank you for the response. It makes sense then. I will change the level and try again. On my desktop the level is 1 (33%). On my laptop the level is 0 (0%). I had it on 33%, but for some reason then, every time NVDA started, the UAC dialog popped up requesting permission, so I dragged it down to 0% and that issue went away. Do you have any idea why this was happening?
Thank you so much for always being ready to assist.
Kind regards
Christo
On 2016/08/08 8:35 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
For those experiencing this problem: what is your UAC level set to? To find out, go to Control Panel/User Accounts/change User Account Control Settings and you should see a slider. In order for UAC fix to work correctly, UAC level must be set to level 2 (67%) or higher.
Cheers,
Joseph
-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 6:40 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] After Anniversary Update NVDA no longer reads UAC pop-up dialogs
Hi Joseph
I am glad this matter is receiving attention, but I have to say that I am using the latest snapshot and it is definitely not reading the content of the UAC dialogs. I am using Version: next-13485,10f249e8.
Kind regards
Christo
On 2016/08/08 10:12 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
Ah yes, it was a pleasure to investigate this issue a few weeks ago. Fix included as part of 2016.3 (latest master and next snapshots contains the fix).
Cheers,
Joseph
-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 1:02 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: [win10] After Anniversary Update NVDA no longer reads UAC pop-up dialogs
Hello all
I have noticed on both my computers that after the Anniversary Update NVDA no longer speak the User Access Control dialogs which pop up to ask your permission to do certain things. I know one can simply type Alt+y for yes or Alt+n for no, but one never knows what else might be shown in such a pop-up. Dos anyone know of a fix for this?
Kind regards
Christo
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Re: Problem with NVDA and UAC dialogs after Anniversary Update
Brian's Mail list account BY <bglists@...>
Not seen this one before. Could it be the synth in use in the installed copy is being clobbered?
Brian
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Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2016 8:03 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problem with NVDA and UAC dialogs after Anniversary Update
Hi,
Hmmm... Let's try this: download latest snapshot again, then run Narrator and try installing NVDA while Narrator is running.
Cheers,
Joseph
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 11:58 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Problem with NVDA and UAC dialogs after Anniversary Update
Hello Joseph
Ok, I brought the conversation to this list and I have copied our correspondence below for your reference.
In response to your question, yes, it is an installed copy of the latest snapshot of NVDA. My problem is that, when I start up the laptop, it automatically tries to run NVDA and then goes into this loop; it doesn't matter if I respond with Yes or No. This means I can't get to do anything on the machine. I thought that, if I could at least get into the File Explorer, I could delete the NVDA executable, so that it can't try to open. My goodness, this is such a mess; I hope you have some advice for me.
Kind regards
Christo
Correspondence below:
Hi,
This is odd indeed...
Is this with an installed copy of NVDA? If so, this should not cause issues you've described. Sounds like NVDA is trying to run the installer without realizing that it's already installed (that's one possibility).
If you don't mind, let's talk about this on the NVDA mailing list.
Cheers,
Joseph
-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 12:17 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] After Anniversary Update NVDA no longer reads UAC pop-up dialogs
Joseph
On my laptop I now moved the level up to 2 (67%), but I got myself into a strange and very serious situation. When NVDA starts, the UAC dialog pops up and it is spoken, but I can't get out of it. Whether I press Yes or No, the dialog keeps coming back. It goes into a loop and I can't do anything else on my computer. I can't even close NVDA to get Narrator up to change the UAC level. The dialog keeps coming back all the time. The computer is absolutely unusable. Do you have any idea how I can get out of the loop and get to the place where I can bring down the UAC level again. I really have no idea what to do. Please help. I hope you can.
Kind regards
Christo
On 2016/08/08 8:53 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
As for why UAC keeps asking for permission whenever NVDA runs, I don't know.
As for UAC not reading properly if level is set to 1: this is a known problem. NV Access is aware of this issue as we speak.
Cheers,
Joseph
-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 11:47 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] After Anniversary Update NVDA no longer reads UAC pop-up dialogs
Hi Joseph
Thank you for the response. It makes sense then. I will change the level and try again. On my desktop the level is 1 (33%). On my laptop the level is 0 (0%). I had it on 33%, but for some reason then, every time NVDA started, the UAC dialog popped up requesting permission, so I dragged it down to 0% and that issue went away. Do you have any idea why this was happening?
Thank you so much for always being ready to assist.
Kind regards
Christo
On 2016/08/08 8:35 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
For those experiencing this problem: what is your UAC level set to? To find out, go to Control Panel/User Accounts/change User Account Control Settings and you should see a slider. In order for UAC fix to work correctly, UAC level must be set to level 2 (67%) or higher.
Cheers,
Joseph
-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 6:40 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: Re: [win10] After Anniversary Update NVDA no longer reads UAC pop-up dialogs
Hi Joseph
I am glad this matter is receiving attention, but I have to say that I am using the latest snapshot and it is definitely not reading the content of the UAC dialogs. I am using Version: next-13485,10f249e8.
Kind regards
Christo
On 2016/08/08 10:12 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
Ah yes, it was a pleasure to investigate this issue a few weeks ago. Fix included as part of 2016.3 (latest master and next snapshots contains the fix).
Cheers,
Joseph
-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 1:02 AM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: [win10] After Anniversary Update NVDA no longer reads UAC pop-up dialogs
Hello all
I have noticed on both my computers that after the Anniversary Update NVDA no longer speak the User Access Control dialogs which pop up to ask your permission to do certain things. I know one can simply type Alt+y for yes or Alt+n for no, but one never knows what else might be shown in such a pop-up. Dos anyone know of a fix for this?
Kind regards
Christo
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Re: Beware anniversary update for...
Brian's Mail list account BY <bglists@...>
Well the next branch is the most up to date on the snapshots page for nvda.
I've wound my 10 machine back at the moment due to problems with it removing the Outlook Express hacked version. The thing is is there any way in the update where you can tell 10 to not remove software it does not like and if it fails to work afterwards you can take it out yourself. I have a feeling this tendency to remove without asking has corrupted the registry which is why all the other issues have occured.
I don't want to have to clean install it, if it gives problems I'll stay on the old build, so I did wonder if I leave it will windows updates over time effectively make it into this version without deleting stuff. I've rea Microsofts mutterings and I'm none the wiser at all.
Seems to me that there could be any number of new builds over time resulting in many different versions of windows 10 with a lot of different issues with screenreaders depending on the version core in use.
Brian
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----- Original Message -----
From: "ken lawrence via Groups.io" <kenlawrence124=aol.com@groups.io>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2016 2:55 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Beware anniversary update for...
Hi list just installed the anniversary update yesterday. have no problems with live mail. it doesn't seem to read the edge browser right like blind bargains had suggested, but that might be because NVDA and or jaws must be updated first. today someone on this list told me during a game chat on out of sight that there is a developers update to NVDA since no update has come up when I hit check for updates I'm guessin g that any update is forthcoming. haven't scanned with defendor yet but so far update works fine.
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