Re: Beware anniversary update for...
Gene
Although the earlier menu version of Windows Live
Mail may be removed, according to comments about how Windows determines whether
to remove things. The menu version of the program was not intended for use
with Windows 7 and higher. Some people use this old version in Windows 7
and higher, however.
Gene
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From: Brian Crabtree
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2016 10:53 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Beware anniversary update
for... Windows Live Mail 2012 is not removed by the upgrade process.
Brian Gaff asked, "Does anyone know if it does this with Live mail versions as well?" The Anniversary update carried over Thunderbird, Windows Live Mail 2012, and Outlook 2010 on my machine without any issue at all. It is no surprise that it archives Outlook Express, which has not had
official support in years and which runs only as a hacked version, likely using
the original code base that Windows would recognize as not "automatically"
compatible with Windows 10. There are a bunch of application programs
which are archived because their developers have not updated their code with
what Windows 10 requires to know that it is "officially compatible" with Windows
10. I've lost utilities like CPU-ID and a couple of other programs that
will run just fine under Windows 10, but whose developers did not change the
code to allow Windows 10 to recognize that it's OK to carry it along. A
lot of this stuff can be reinstalled and run just fine. If you're
accessing your e-mail using IMAP, regardless of the client, you lose nothing if
that client gets archived as part of an upgrade process. I worry a lot. . . I worry that no matter how cynical you become it's never enough to keep up. ~ Trudy, in Jane Wagner's "Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the
Universe"
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Re: Beware anniversary update for...
Brian Crabtree <pandbcrabtree@...>
Windows Live Mail 2012 is not removed by the upgrade process.
On 8 Aug 2016, at 15:24, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:
Brian Gaff asked, "Does anyone know if it does this with Live mail versions as well?" The Anniversary update carried over Thunderbird, Windows Live Mail 2012, and Outlook 2010 on my machine without any issue at all. It is no surprise that it archives Outlook Express, which has not had official support in years and which runs only as a hacked version, likely using the original code base that Windows would recognize as not "automatically" compatible with Windows 10. There are a bunch of application programs which are archived because their developers have not updated their code with what Windows 10 requires to know that it is "officially compatible" with Windows 10. I've lost utilities like CPU-ID and a couple of other programs that will run just fine under Windows 10, but whose developers did not change the code to allow Windows 10 to recognize that it's OK to carry it along. A lot of this stuff can be reinstalled and run just fine. If you're accessing your e-mail using IMAP, regardless of the client, you lose nothing if that client gets archived as part of an upgrade process. I worry a lot. . . I worry that no matter how cynical you become it's never enough to keep up. ~ Trudy, in Jane Wagner's "Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe"
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about ribbon disabler 3.0
P. Otter
hello all, there is an update availlable of the ribbondisabler version 3.
i have version 2 but i can'nt find the link to download version 3. is there anyone who can post the link for version 3 of the ribbon disabler? thanks in advance paul otter
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Re: Beware anniversary update for...
Brian Gaff asked, "Does anyone know if it does this with Live mail versions as well?" The Anniversary update carried over Thunderbird, Windows Live Mail 2012, and Outlook 2010 on my machine without any issue at all. It is no surprise that it archives Outlook Express, which has not had official support in years and which runs only as a hacked version, likely using the original code base that Windows would recognize as not "automatically" compatible with Windows 10. There are a bunch of application programs which are archived because their developers have not updated their code with what Windows 10 requires to know that it is "officially compatible" with Windows 10. I've lost utilities like CPU-ID and a couple of other programs that will run just fine under Windows 10, but whose developers did not change the code to allow Windows 10 to recognize that it's OK to carry it along. A lot of this stuff can be reinstalled and run just fine. If you're accessing your e-mail using IMAP, regardless of the client, you lose nothing if that client gets archived as part of an upgrade process. I worry a lot. . . I worry that no matter how cynical you become it's never enough to keep up. ~ Trudy, in Jane Wagner's "Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe"
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Re: Reading boxes in Microsoft Word
Kevin Huber
Hi Gene:
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These graphics that I am speaking about are boxes wich have text in them. Kevin Huber
On 7/29/16, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@outlook.co.nz> wrote:
Hi Kevin
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Re: Problem with a Webvisum
Rémy Ruiz
Hi, Latest version: https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/downloads/file/469287/webvisum-0.9.5-fx.xpi?src=dp-btn-primary Cheers. Rémy
Le 08/08/2016 à 15:44, Simone Dal Maso
a écrit :
http://jscholes.net/webvisum-0.9.2-fx.xpi
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Re: Problem with a Webvisum
Simone Dal Maso
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Il 08/08/2016 15:42, Salva Doménech Miguel via Groups.io ha scritto:
Hi.
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Re: Problem with a Webvisum
Salva Doménech Miguel <kibayasd@...>
Hi.
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I deleted the complement from my MeoCloud cause the signed complement now is in the complements store in Firefox. Just download and install it. Cheers Saludos Salva kibayasd@... He creado la lista Bibliófilos, sobre libros y todo lo relacionado con ellos. Si te interesa envíame un correo o subscríbete enviando un correo con asunto y cuerpo en blanco a bibliofilos+subscribe@... El 08/08/2016 a las 15:40, Kevin Huber
escribió:
Hi Salva: I just tried that link that you refer to, and I got an error message saying that that page does not exist. Kevin Huber On 8/3/16, Salva Doménech Miguel via Groups.io <kibayasd@...> wrote:Hi! In other list another person asked the same question, and someone replyed with a link to a signed complement. Try: https://cld.pt/dl/download/459e742f-f562-4b66-9ab6-d321692b3e4f/WebVisum%7B0.9.2.1-signed%7D.xpi?download=true Cheers Salva El 03/08/2016 a las 12:12, Marco Oros escribió:Hello. I don't know, where to post this topic. I have a problem with a Webvisum of today, I can't instal It back. This same problem with a signature. Strange is this, that I've turned off this item on about:config tab. Please, could You help me? Or, is there another alternatives to the Webvisums? There are some sites, when isn't there any audio captcha and I don't want anoying another people with this thing. Please, could You help me? Marco Oros
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Re: Problem with a Webvisum
Kevin Huber
Hi Salva:
I just tried that link that you refer to, and I got an error message saying that that page does not exist. Kevin Huber On 8/3/16, Salva Doménech Miguel via Groups.io <kibayasd=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote: Hi!
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Accessibility of Salesforce with NVDA
Charlie Coyle <charlie.coyle@...>
Hello all,
Sorry to repost - my original email didn't seem to get through for some reason. I hope you don't mind me posting here regarding this. My name is Charlie and I work for Visionary - a charity which connects local sight loss charities in the UK. Our organisation are looking into using Salesforce and we were wondering if you'd be happy to share your knowledge and expertise with us on this software. Please find the questions we were hoping to get answers to below: 1. What version/s of Salesforce have you tested with which version/s of NVDA? 2. What tasks have you undertaken using it? 3. How easy have you found to use it? 4. What training were you offered (if appropriate)? What's your experience of rolling it out to staff? Learning from it? 5. What workarounds (if any) have you needed to use? 6. Was any functionality lost if using NVDA? 7. Is all functionality available using keyboard only? Or with speech control software like Dragon Naturally Speaking? 8. Overall, would you recommend it as a viable solution for access technology users? If so, why? If not, why not? Any help you could give us on this would be very greatly appreciated! With best wishes, Charlie Charlie Coyle Development and Innovation Coordinator Visionary - linking local sight loss charities Email: charlie.coyle@visionary.org.uk Website: www.visionary.org.uk Registered Charity No's. 1135360 SC044163 A Company Limited by Guarantee No. 07185372 Registered in England and Wales Registered Office: CBI House, St Vincent's School, Yew Tree Lane, Liverpool, L12 9HN NOTICE: The information contained in this email and any attachments is confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient you should not use, disclose, distribute or copy any of the content of it or of any attachment; you are requested to notify the sender immediately and then to delete it and any attachments from your system. Please note that the statements and views expressed in this email and any attachments are those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Visionary - linking local sight loss charities. "Visionary" is the operating name of Visionary - linking local sight loss charities Limited, Registered Office: CBI House, St Vincent's School, Yew Tree Lane, Liverpool, L12 9HN Registered Charity No.1135360 / SC044163 Company Registered No. 071853
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Re: trying to recover from freeze:
Brian's Mail list account BY <bglists@...>
You often get this when its taking too long to do something. It does not always mean there is a real problem only that its slow.
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I think we would need to know what hardware and software were running to give even an educated guess, but I've seen this on machines where a lot of things are started as it boots. Does it do it if, when the machine has settled down, you restart nvda Brian ? bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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From: "Kenny Peyattt jr. " <p.wildcat1234@gmail.com> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Monday, August 08, 2016 2:26 AM Subject: [nvda] trying to recover from freeze: Hi I was looking at my nvda.log file, and noticed that nvda was trying to recover from a freeze. I did get the error sound when nvda was started. DEBUGWARNING - watchdog._watcher (20:29:46): Trying to recover from freeze, core stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> I figured I would paste the information that way some one can forwared this to the developer list. Kenny Peyatt jr. Sent from Mail for Windows 10
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Re: Beware anniversary update for...
Brian's Mail list account BY <bglists@...>
Hmm, well after lots of problems with defender and other sundry programs falling over for no apparent reason I've gone back to the old build.
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I'll need to find a way to stop it deleting old email clients and also install classic shell before attempting it again, but I do have the little program that forces the update so I guess I can try it any time I don't understand why its crashing stuff though.It was also very sloweven with the latest next snap. I never got as far as command prompt or power shell. Defender would get to 50 percent of a scan then stick and whn I cheecked an unkown error had occured, please install any windows updates reboot and try again. Brian bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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From: "Jacob Kruger" <jacob@blindza.co.za> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2016 6:30 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] Beware anniversary update for... On my machine, it only seemed to have taken off classicShell, but, I reinstalled it from latest version off their site, and working fine now.
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Re: Adding a submenu and menu items to NVDA
Shivakumar Nataraajan
blindsea talks
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On 09/07/2016, Kevin Huber <kevin.huber1@gmail.com> wrote:
On 7/8/16, Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@tiflotecnia.com> wrote:You can see how it is done in our addon.
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Re: is it possible to safe configuration profiles?
P. Otter
thanks man,
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This revealed the information I was looking for i've found it! thanks for your answer. cheers paul otter Op 7-8-2016 om 13:54 schreef Chris Mullins:
The folder you refer to is the NVDA installation folder. You need to be looking in the equivalent folders of your own user folder. You should look in the appdata/roaming folder.
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Re: Software Uninstallers
Carlos
Hello:
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Accessible software recommendations are always welcome on this list! Thank You! For sharing any accessible software tips/recommendations!
On 8/7/2016 9:59 PM, Afrim wrote:
Hello, --
Carlos Gonzalez - Los Angeles, CA. - gmjc341961@gmail.com
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Re: Software Uninstallers
afrim maja <afrim.maja@...>
Hello,
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I personally use Uninstaller from Puran Utilities, which is the most accessible uninstaller I've ever seen. If you'd like, I could give a link. Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 7, 2016, at 4:20 PM, Carlos <gmjc341961@gmail.com> wrote:
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trying to recover from freeze:
Kenny Peyattt jr.
Hi I was looking at my nvda.log file, and noticed that nvda was trying to recover from a freeze. I did get the error sound when nvda was started.
DEBUGWARNING - watchdog._watcher (20:29:46): Trying to recover from freeze, core stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 190, in <module> I figured I would paste the information that way some one can forwared this to the developer list. Kenny Peyatt jr. Sent from Mail for Windows 10
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Re: Outlook 2016 issue
Quentin Christensen
Hi George, At this stage, it's a known issue with recent updates to Outlook - someone posted the exact version it changed on here recently so theoretically if you can rollback to before that update and prevent Outlook from updating, it will stop that. Otherwise Gene's solution is the most effective for now.
On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 8:15 AM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
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Re: Outlook 2016 issue
Gene
Does that mean that you did this before asking for
a solution? Please state in future if you have already found a solution
and what it is when asking such questions. It may save people time and
effort in duplicating a solution you have already found.
Gene
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We did exactly that so the guy can get his work done. I just wondered
if there was a more elligant solution.
George
It may not help but you could try putting the
phrase in the speech dictionary and then placing a space in the pronounced as
field. Do you hear these announcements when you use read current line or
only when you move? If you hear them using read current line, then have
the announcements spelled to make sure you get all the characters and spaces
where they should be.
Gene
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I have the same problem. I posted about it on this list several days ago.
To the best of my knowledge there is no way to get rid of this annoying notation.
Dan
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of George McCoy
A friend of mine is running windows 10 64 bit professional. He has not received the anniversary update. He is running outlook 2016 via office 365. He is running nvda 2016.2.1. He has the latest wintenapps add-on.
When he arrows down through his list of messages, the following is prepended to each listing: Associated Draft No Associated Drafts, After which he hears what he expects to hear; the from and subject fields and the date received and so forth. He can review the prepended characters with the numPad keys. He got someone to look at his screen and they report that the prepended characters do not appear visually.
We tried running nvda without add-ons and uninstalling and reinstalling nvda without success.
Has anyone else experienced this behavior and, if so, is there a way to stop it?
Thanks very much for any thoughts, George
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Re: Outlook 2016 issue
George <slr1bpz@...>
We did exactly that so the guy can get his work done. I just wondered
if there was a more elligant solution.
George
It may not help but you could try putting the
phrase in the speech dictionary and then placing a space in the pronounced as
field. Do you hear these announcements when you use read current line or
only when you move? If you hear them using read current line, then have
the announcements spelled to make sure you get all the characters and spaces
where they should be.
Gene
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I have the same problem. I posted about it on this list several days ago.
To the best of my knowledge there is no way to get rid of this annoying notation.
Dan
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of George McCoy
A friend of mine is running windows 10 64 bit professional. He has not received the anniversary update. He is running outlook 2016 via office 365. He is running nvda 2016.2.1. He has the latest wintenapps add-on.
When he arrows down through his list of messages, the following is prepended to each listing: Associated Draft No Associated Drafts, After which he hears what he expects to hear; the from and subject fields and the date received and so forth. He can review the prepended characters with the numPad keys. He got someone to look at his screen and they report that the prepended characters do not appear visually.
We tried running nvda without add-ons and uninstalling and reinstalling nvda without success.
Has anyone else experienced this behavior and, if so, is there a way to stop it?
Thanks very much for any thoughts, George
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