Hi,

For those who’d like to get a deeper (and a bit more technical) overview of Anniversary Update, I have recorded a podcast providing additional information and clarifications from Accessible World presentation from August 1^st:

http://nvda-kr.org/files/winten14393B.mp3

Things covered include:

·         OneCore (some info derived from an Ars Technica article from Peter Bright).

·         Build numbering changes and why.

·         Why browse mode in Edge broke for NVDA users and happenings since then, why traditional virtual buffer implementations will not work in Edge anymore.

·         The story behind toasts (app notifications).

·         Redesigned User Account Control.

·         Skype Preview app.

·         Windows Subsystem for Linux, specifically how Linux kernel 3.4 system calls are handled.

·         How scan mode in Narrator works.

Specifics (quite technical):

OneCore is a set of most fundamental routines all devices running Windows 10 share. The goal of this project was to unify routines used within Windows NT kernel (ntoskrnl.exe), such as security, file system support, basic API’s and so on. Each device family then adds layers on top, such as:

·         PC’s: OneCore + Universal Windows Platform + desktop app support + desktop interface + Internet Explorer + other components.

·         Mobile: OneCore + UWP + cell phone connectivity stack + smartphone interface and others.

·         Server 2016: OneCore + server components.

·         Xbox: oneCore + UWP + game virtual machine + support for gaming hardware and so on.

·         HoloLens: OneCore + UWP + Windows Holographic and others.

·         IoT: OneCore + UWP + IoT-specific things.

·         Surface Hub: OneCore + UWP + Desktop apps support + multi-touch support and others.

·         Future devices: OneCore + (possibly) UWP + device-specific layers.

Edge: Browse mode broke due to different UIA framework ID’s in use (InternetExplorer versus MicrosoftEdge). According to a MS engineer who was interviewed for the most recent Main Menu podcast, due to security practices and to use modern standards and UIA, Edge does not permit traditional virtual buffer mechanisms anymore, thus screen readers must be modified to handle UIA better and support Edge-specific controls.

App notifications: until Version 1511, when toasts (app notifications) appear, they fired (sent) tooltip show event, used by screen readers to catch it and announce toasts. Starting with a more recent Insider build for Anniversary Update, tooltip events are not fired by toasts; instead, a window open UIA event is used, thus screen readers were (or must be) modified to handle this change. Also, when high priority toasts appear, UIA class name changes, thus some screen readers were modified (or must be modified) to handle this case as well.

Skype Preview app: when someone is typing, a UIA event is fired. But when someone is not typing, Skype Preview app does not clear typing indicator text, confusing screen reader users (a feedback regarding this UIA implementation issue was sent to Microsoft).

Subsystem for Linux: a partnership between Microsoft and Canonical brought this to life. Originally used to research running Android apps on Windows 10 Mobile (Astoria), this changed so some unmodified Ubuntu binaries can function under Anniversary Update with a twist. Specifically, a concept of a minimal process and a picoprocess is used to accomplish this (a minimal process is an empty process when Windows NT kernel sees it; a picoprocess is a representation of a user-mode process from another operating system with a system component serving as a proxy). Because Windows NT kernel (specifically, Windows Native API) does not have certain Linux kernel features, a pico driver called lxss.sys (Linux Subsystem) is used to emulate some system calls if Windows kernel cannot handle it. This is just one of the aspects of this new subsystem (available for developers running 64-bit Anniversary Update and uses an image of Ubuntu 14.04) (all info came from a blog entry on picoprocess found in Microsoft, a part of a larger series on Windows Subsystem for Linux).

User Account Control: Until Version 1511, UAC dialog was powered by Win32. This has changed in Anniversary Update: now powered by the technology used to represent UI in universal apps (called XAML (eXtensible Application Markup Language)). Thus screen readers must be modified to read UAC prompts.

Narrator’s scan mode: when active, up and down arrows emulate caps lock+left/right arrows.

Hope this helps.

Cheers,

Joseph

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On 8/3/16, Marco Oros <marco.oros93@...> wrote:

Big thanks to You.
Marco

hello, what can i use to edit a py file?
i downloaded the weather add on, and i have to edit the .py file,thanks.



.

Big thanks to You.
Marco

hello, what can i use to edit a py file?
i downloaded the weather add on, and i have to edit the .py file,thanks.

hello, what can i use to edit a py file?
i downloaded the weather add on, and i have to edit the .py file,thanks.

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Wednesday, August 3, 2016 12:50 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] [finding styles in word 2016

Hi Cearbhall,

I have been thinking that you were talking about word 2016. In Outlook 2016, I can duplicate your problem.

Pranav

Hi Joseph,

The issue is simply that NVDA does not speak the erroneous word in the spell checker in Outlook 2016. The rest of the dialog is read out. Also the proposed correction is read out in both focus mode and review mode.

The only time that NVDA seems to be able to speak the erroneous word is within the flow of text from NVDA+b.

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Hi all,

Let’s see what’s up…

If I heard you right, you are saying that object nav doesn’t work, and that when you press F7 from Word 2016, NvDA does not announce misspelled word and so on? If the latter, then this is a known problem, and it’ll be quite tricky to fix.

Cheers,

Joseph

Gene,

May I refer you to my earlier message in which I stated, very clearly, that I had experimented with all the review modes? I also stated the results of that experience.

All the best,

Cearbhall

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

Quentin,

The keystroke NVDA+b is the only tool that gives me the erroneous field.

It starts at the top of the dialog and, when it comes to “Not found in dictionary” if repeats this twice followed by “alt plus” and then repeats “not found in dictionary” once more followed by the erroneous text and then continues on to read to the bottom of the dialog.

This is the only time when the erroneous word is spoken. It is not available when I use the numpad to review the text even though NVDA+b has spoken it. Yet, the offered correction is available in all modes of review.

Any ideas?

All the best,

Cearbhall

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2016 12:11 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA not reading Spell Checker fields

Hello.
I don't know, where to post this topic. I have a problem with a Webvisum of today, I can't instal It back.
This same problem with a signature. Strange is this, that I've turned off this item on about:config tab.
Please, could You help me?
Or, is there another alternatives to the Webvisums?
There are some sites, when isn't there any audio captcha and I don't want anoying another people with this thing.
Please, could You help me?
Marco Oros

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Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2016 3:17 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] where do i unzip?

You obviously downloaded them from another place to the one officially
sanctioned. If you do trust them simply rename the suffix to the
correct one and they should work normally. Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Capelle"
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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2016 12:07 AM
Subject: [nvda] where do i unzip?

hello all.
i downloaded some add-ins for nvda, but they are zip files, where do
i unzip them?

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Hello, if I update, will NVDA16.2 do, or am I better off waiting?

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On 2 Aug 2016, at 3:43 am, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi, Joseph,


I heard the recording and it was great. I'm holding off on the anniversary update until NVDA 2016.3 comes out.


Rosemarie

On 8/1/2016 7:24 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
Enjoy the recording (below), and good luck for those upgrading to Anniversary Update.
Cheers,
Joseph
P.S. When you do share this recording, please give proper attributions.

From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf
Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Monday, August 1, 2016 7:19 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: [win10] Accessible Tek Talk presentation on Windows 10
Anniversary Update: recording now availible #WinTen1607

Ladies and gentlemen,

The recording from Accessible World’s Tek Talk presentation on Windows 10 Anniversary Update is now available:
http://nvda-kr.org/files/winten14393.mp3

Note that this is the copy I have, might be replaced with the Accessible World’s version later this week. Enjoy, and for those upgrading to the new upgrade today, good luck.
Cheers,
Joseph

Hello, if I update, will NVDA16.2 do, or am I better off waiting?

Sent from my iPhone 5S

On 2 Aug 2016, at 3:43 am, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi, Joseph,


I heard the recording and it was great. I'm holding off on the anniversary update until NVDA 2016.3 comes out.


Rosemarie

On 8/1/2016 7:24 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
Enjoy the recording (below), and good luck for those upgrading to Anniversary Update.
Cheers,
Joseph
P.S. When you do share this recording, please give proper attributions.

From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Monday, August 1, 2016 7:19 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: [win10] Accessible Tek Talk presentation on Windows 10 Anniversary Update: recording now availible #WinTen1607

Ladies and gentlemen,

The recording from Accessible World’s Tek Talk presentation on Windows 10 Anniversary Update is now available:
http://nvda-kr.org/files/winten14393.mp3

Note that this is the copy I have, might be replaced with the Accessible World’s version later this week. Enjoy, and for those upgrading to the new upgrade today, good luck.
Cheers,
Joseph

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene New Zealand
Sent: 03 August 2016 12:05 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] EDITING HEADERS IN OFFICE 2010

Hi Christo

If you do the sequence to slow it will not focus in the right place. I tried it a little slow then quicker and when done quicly this time it landed in the same places a few times where I could edit the header. Once it has been edited and entered, then the escape key done It seems or is working correctly. and lands in the right spot to edit it. Doing the sequence slow will do as you said before.

By the way I am using nvda 2016.2 and word 2010 and windows 10.

Gene nz

Hi Group

 

We are using Office 2010 with NVDA 2016.2.1 for training at our college.

 

We have a problem with editing a header in MS Word. If you press the Office 2010 sequence, ALT, N, H, E, NVDA falls silent. It refuses to speak even after you pressed escape. If you make use of the 2003 sequence, ALT+V, H, there is no problem.

 

Could someone please assist us?

 

Thank you and regards

 

Christo Vorster (Worcester, South Africa)

 

 

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