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Re: NVDA 2016.4rc2 Released

Chris
 

Cant see no light here but it still seems a long way off though

Many thanks

 

Chris

 

 


Re: Development of a new braille display driver

Devin Prater
 

Hmm. Joseph Lee did the braille note driver didn't you, Joseph? If so, you may be able to help them.

On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 8:14 AM Shyam Shah <shyam.shah511@...> wrote:

Hello everyone,

@David, - really sorry for the incomplete info on website. But let me assure you, this is for real. We have tested the device with Perkins, NfB and NBP from US and lots of other institutes in India. We are working on getting our product into manufacturing and are expected to launch in May-June internationally. It is a global product, and not restricted to any region. On the pricing front, it will be in the range of 370-450 USD depending on taxes.

@Joseph - The outlook might be the same as Orbit but inside it is really different. One of the biggest difference is in refresh rate where our device is 3X faster than Orbit. It is based on a completely different technology which can be extended into a 20 cell, 40 cell and even a multi-line display. And we are committed to bringing them to the market. 

Hope this answers some of your questions. Also if anyone knows any guy who could help us on the driver front, do let me know.

Thanks,

Shyam

 

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Re: Dropbox problem (with fix)

Gerardo Corripio
 

Yes thanks a lot! Just went into my Dropbox's preferences and disabled the badge.

El 12/12/2016 10:32 p.m., Gary Bowers escribió:
Thanks, Quentin. Very helpful.

Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 8:41 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Dropbox problem (with fix)

Hi everyone,

For anyone using the Dropbox app on Windows, there is a problem with accessing documents stored in your dropbox folder caused by a new feature in a recent update to Dropbox.

What is happening is that when you open a file from your Dropbox folder, it's popping up a mostly invisible window over the top of the Word / Excel window, and it puts it back there even if you alt+tab away and back. It's called the "Dropbox badge" and you need to go into the Dropbox preferences to get rid of it:

1. Press WINDOWS+B to go to the system tray
2. Press RIGHT ARROW to move to the Dropbox icon (it may also be in the System notification overflow).
3. Press ENTER to open the menu.
4. Press UP ARROW to go to Preferences and press ENTER
5. Press TAB 5 times to get to the "Dropbox Badge" grouping / combo box.
6. Press DOWN ARROW to get to "Never show".
7. Press ENTER to close the dropbox preferences.

Hopefully Dropbox will address this, however in the meantime, following this, documents in your dropbox folder should be accessible again.

Kind regards

Quentin.
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Re: Development of a new braille display driver

Shyam Shah
 

Hello everyone,

@David, - really sorry for the incomplete info on website. But let me assure you, this is for real. We have tested the device with Perkins, NfB and NBP from US and lots of other institutes in India. We are working on getting our product into manufacturing and are expected to launch in May-June internationally. It is a global product, and not restricted to any region. On the pricing front, it will be in the range of 370-450 USD depending on taxes.

@Joseph - The outlook might be the same as Orbit but inside it is really different. One of the biggest difference is in refresh rate where our device is 3X faster than Orbit. It is based on a completely different technology which can be extended into a 20 cell, 40 cell and even a multi-line display. And we are committed to bringing them to the market. 

Hope this answers some of your questions. Also if anyone knows any guy who could help us on the driver front, do let me know.

Thanks,

Shyam

 


Re: NVDA 2016.4rc2 Released

 

Hi,

As they say in various places, “there is a light at the end of the tunnel”, and it could be that we may see a possible resolution to this issue soon (the discussion of which merits its own thread). All I can say at this time is that a collaborative solution from Microsoft and NV Access is in the works, and the solution requires mandatory upgrade to the next stable build of Windows 10 (coming in spring 2017).

Cheers,

Joseph

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Chris
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 2:34 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2016.4rc2 Released

 

I thought the deafening silence found when typing in windows apps like mail edge settings and Cortana etc would be fixed

But I am disappointed that it has not as was previously reported and now no one seems to want to talk about this issue which I think is an urgent matter to be resolved as a matter ofurgency

 

Regards

 

Disappointed

 

 

 


Re: Eloquence and NVDA

Devin Prater
 

I wonder if the sold addons include the Asian languages, like Japanese, Chinese, and such like that?

On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 5:26 AM Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@...> wrote:
Hi!

Legal versions of Eloquence are not free.

They are some free addons, but they are piracy...

Regards,

Rui Fontes
Tiflotecnia, Lda.


-----Mensagem Original-----
De: nasrin khaksar
Data: 13 de dezembro de 2016 09:29
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: Re: [nvda] Eloquence and NVDA

is eloquence addon is freeware or not?

On 12/13/16, Cearbhall O'Meadhra <cearbhall.omeadhra@...> wrote:
> Which one is the better voice?
>
> All the best,
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> Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 8:41 AM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] Eloquence and NVDA
>
> For now if you want Eloquence with a regular license you should buy from
> Code Factory, where you can select between addon or sapi5.
>
>
> Il 13/12/2016 09:37, Cearbhall O'Meadhra ha scritto:
>> Hi,
>>
>>
>>
>> Can anyone tell me how to get ETI Eloquence into my choice of voices for
>> NVDA?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> All the best,
>>
>>
>>
>> Cearbhall
>>
>>
>>
>> m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...
>>
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>> *From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf Of
>> *Pranav Lal
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 13, 2016 12:40 AM
>> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
>> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] SAPI voices not speaking when I switch to them
>> with NVDA
>>
>>
>>
>> Chris,
>>
>>
>>
>> Many thanks for your suggestion.  I was unable to preview the voice from
>> the text to speech settings from within the speech-recognition control
>> panel. However, I went to the advanced properties for the voices and
>> found that they were set to use the  wrong audio device.I have set them
>> to the correct one and the voices are speaking again.
>>
>>
>>
>> Pranav
>>
>> *From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io
>> <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf Of
>> *Chris
>> *Sent:* Monday, December 12, 2016 2:17 PM
>> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] SAPI voices not speaking when I switch to them
>> with NVDA
>>
>>
>>
>> If you go to speech recognition in control panel and select text to
>> speech can you preview the voice through there?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


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in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
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Re: Dropbox problem (with fix)

Gene
 

the feature is for those colaborating using certain kinds of files such as docx.  However, as I understand the way this works from reading the help for the subject, if you are sharing a file, then any time you open it in Drop box, the badge will be displayed, using default settings.  The badge only is displayed for certain file types such as docx.  It is not displayed for older file types such as doc. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 7:22 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Dropbox problem (with fix)

Dropbox works fine on my AMD based systems.

Thanks,
Mike

Sent from my iPhone, please forgive the typos.

> On Dec 13, 2016, at 2:09 AM, Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...> wrote:
>
> This of course only affects online access as far as i know. it happens since the badge is just a graphic I think.
> I tend to make sure any public links use the  1 in the link not the 0 so the machine defaults to downloading a file not viewing the list on line.
>
> Incidentally, I have also managed to stop Dropbox updating on those amd machines where the latest desktop client fallls over and won't run properly. the last working version was 13, and to fix the update you need to rename a file that controls the update process However be aware that Dropbox no longer support this processor so it could  be that some parts of their service become unusable over time.
> AMD single core Athlon and their cut down versions are the processors concerrned here.
> Brian
>
> bglists@...
> Sent via blueyonder.
> Please address personal email to:-
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> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher-Mark Gilland" <clgilland07@...>
> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 3:25 AM
> Subject: Re: [nvda] Dropbox problem (with fix)
>
>
> Thank you for this tip. I've not yet had to open a word nor Excel file from within Dropbox, but this is great to know. I wonder if this problem would also occur on the mac. Feel free, anyone, to write me off list, if you happen to know.
>
> clgilland07@...
>
> Chris.
>
> ----- Original Message -----  From: Quentin Christensen
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 9:40 PM
> Subject: [nvda] Dropbox problem (with fix)
>
>
> Hi everyone,
>
>
> For anyone using the Dropbox app on Windows, there is a problem with accessing documents stored in your dropbox folder caused by a new feature in a recent update to Dropbox.
>
>
> What is happening is that when you open a file from your Dropbox folder, it's popping up a mostly invisible window over the top of the Word / Excel window, and it puts it back there even if you alt+tab away and back. It's called the "Dropbox badge" and you need to go into the Dropbox preferences to get rid of it:
>
>
> 1. Press WINDOWS+B to go to the system tray
> 2. Press RIGHT ARROW to move to the Dropbox icon (it may also be in the System notification overflow).
> 3. Press ENTER to open the menu.
> 4. Press UP ARROW to go to Preferences and press ENTER
> 5. Press TAB 5 times to get to the "Dropbox Badge" grouping / combo box.
> 6. Press DOWN ARROW to get to "Never show".
> 7. Press ENTER to close the dropbox preferences.
>
>
> Hopefully Dropbox will address this, however in the meantime, following this, documents in your dropbox folder should be accessible again.
>
>
> Kind regards
>
>
> Quentin.
>
>
> --
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> Training Material Developer
> Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
>
>
> Ph +61 7 3149 3306
> Direct: +61 413 904 383
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>
>
>
>
>




Re: Dropbox problem (with fix)

Mike Sedmak
 

Dropbox works fine on my AMD based systems.

Thanks,
Mike

Sent from my iPhone, please forgive the typos.

On Dec 13, 2016, at 2:09 AM, Brian's Mail list account <bglists@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

This of course only affects online access as far as i know. it happens since the badge is just a graphic I think.
I tend to make sure any public links use the 1 in the link not the 0 so the machine defaults to downloading a file not viewing the list on line.

Incidentally, I have also managed to stop Dropbox updating on those amd machines where the latest desktop client fallls over and won't run properly. the last working version was 13, and to fix the update you need to rename a file that controls the update process However be aware that Dropbox no longer support this processor so it could be that some parts of their service become unusable over time.
AMD single core Athlon and their cut down versions are the processors concerrned here.
Brian

bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher-Mark Gilland" <clgilland07@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 3:25 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Dropbox problem (with fix)


Thank you for this tip. I've not yet had to open a word nor Excel file from within Dropbox, but this is great to know. I wonder if this problem would also occur on the mac. Feel free, anyone, to write me off list, if you happen to know.

clgilland07@gmail.com

Chris.

----- Original Message ----- From: Quentin Christensen
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 9:40 PM
Subject: [nvda] Dropbox problem (with fix)


Hi everyone,


For anyone using the Dropbox app on Windows, there is a problem with accessing documents stored in your dropbox folder caused by a new feature in a recent update to Dropbox.


What is happening is that when you open a file from your Dropbox folder, it's popping up a mostly invisible window over the top of the Word / Excel window, and it puts it back there even if you alt+tab away and back. It's called the "Dropbox badge" and you need to go into the Dropbox preferences to get rid of it:


1. Press WINDOWS+B to go to the system tray
2. Press RIGHT ARROW to move to the Dropbox icon (it may also be in the System notification overflow).
3. Press ENTER to open the menu.
4. Press UP ARROW to go to Preferences and press ENTER
5. Press TAB 5 times to get to the "Dropbox Badge" grouping / combo box.
6. Press DOWN ARROW to get to "Never show".
7. Press ENTER to close the dropbox preferences.


Hopefully Dropbox will address this, however in the meantime, following this, documents in your dropbox folder should be accessible again.


Kind regards


Quentin.


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Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/


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Re: Eloquence and NVDA

Rui Fontes
 

Hi!

Legal versions of Eloquence are not free.

They are some free addons, but they are piracy...

Regards,

Rui Fontes
Tiflotecnia, Lda.


-----Mensagem Original-----
De: nasrin khaksar
Data: 13 de dezembro de 2016 09:29
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: Re: [nvda] Eloquence and NVDA

is eloquence addon is freeware or not?

On 12/13/16, Cearbhall O'Meadhra <cearbhall.omeadhra@blbc.ie> wrote:
Which one is the better voice?

All the best,

Cearbhall

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@blbc.ie



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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Simone
Dal Maso
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 8:41 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Eloquence and NVDA

For now if you want Eloquence with a regular license you should buy from
Code Factory, where you can select between addon or sapi5.


Il 13/12/2016 09:37, Cearbhall O'Meadhra ha scritto:
Hi,



Can anyone tell me how to get ETI Eloquence into my choice of voices for
NVDA?





All the best,



Cearbhall



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*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf Of
*Pranav Lal
*Sent:* Tuesday, December 13, 2016 12:40 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] SAPI voices not speaking when I switch to them
with NVDA



Chris,



Many thanks for your suggestion. I was unable to preview the voice from
the text to speech settings from within the speech-recognition control
panel. However, I went to the advanced properties for the voices and
found that they were set to use the wrong audio device.I have set them
to the correct one and the voices are speaking again.



Pranav

*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io
<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf Of
*Chris
*Sent:* Monday, December 12, 2016 2:17 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] SAPI voices not speaking when I switch to them
with NVDA



If you go to speech recognition in control panel and select text to
speech can you preview the voice through there?













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Re: Eloquence and NVDA

Rui Fontes
 

Ciao Simone!

Tiflotecnia also sells Eloquence for Windows...

Regards,

Rui Fontes
Tiflotecnia, Lda.


-----Mensagem Original-----
De: Simone Dal Maso
Data: 13 de dezembro de 2016 08:40
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: Re: [nvda] Eloquence and NVDA

For now if you want Eloquence with a regular license you should buy from
Code Factory, where you can select between addon or sapi5.

Il 13/12/2016 09:37, Cearbhall O'Meadhra ha scritto:
Hi,



Can anyone tell me how to get ETI Eloquence into my choice of voices for
NVDA?





All the best,



Cearbhall



m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@blbc.ie







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*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf Of
*Pranav Lal
*Sent:* Tuesday, December 13, 2016 12:40 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] SAPI voices not speaking when I switch to them
with NVDA



Chris,



Many thanks for your suggestion. I was unable to preview the voice from
the text to speech settings from within the speech-recognition control
panel. However, I went to the advanced properties for the voices and
found that they were set to use the wrong audio device.I have set them
to the correct one and the voices are speaking again.



Pranav

*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io
<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf Of
*Chris
*Sent:* Monday, December 12, 2016 2:17 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] SAPI voices not speaking when I switch to them
with NVDA



If you go to speech recognition in control panel and select text to
speech can you preview the voice through there?








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Re: Eloquence and NVDA

Gene
 

The add on has lots of artifacts and is significantly inferior for that reason.  You can try the SAPI 5 version for a week.  You can try the add on for, I believe, it's a week as well if you want to compare.  It would be a good idea to try them both if you are considering both or whichever one you are interested in.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 2:40 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Eloquence and NVDA

For now if you want Eloquence with a regular license you should buy from
Code Factory, where you can select between addon or sapi5.


Il 13/12/2016 09:37, Cearbhall O'Meadhra ha scritto:
> Hi,
>
>
>
> Can anyone tell me how to get ETI Eloquence into my choice of voices for
> NVDA?
>
>
>
>
>
> All the best,
>
>
>
> Cearbhall
>
>
>
> m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I use the free version of Spam Reader to get rid of spam. The
> Professional version doesn't have this disclaimer in outgoing emails.
> Try Spam Reader <http://www.spam-reader.com/disclaimer.shtml> for free now!
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf Of
> *Pranav Lal
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 13, 2016 12:40 AM
> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] SAPI voices not speaking when I switch to them
> with NVDA
>
>
>
> Chris,
>
>
>
> Many thanks for your suggestion.  I was unable to preview the voice from
> the text to speech settings from within the speech-recognition control
> panel. However, I went to the advanced properties for the voices and
> found that they were set to use the  wrong audio device.I have set them
> to the correct one and the voices are speaking again.
>
>
>
> Pranav
>
> *From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io
> <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf Of
> *Chris
> *Sent:* Monday, December 12, 2016 2:17 PM
> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] SAPI voices not speaking when I switch to them
> with NVDA
>
>
>
> If you go to speech recognition in control panel and select text to
> speech can you preview the voice through there?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>




Re: NVDA 2016.4rc2 Released

Chris
 

I thought the deafening silence found when typing in windows apps like mail edge settings and Cortana etc would be fixed

But I am disappointed that it has not as was previously reported and now no one seems to want to talk about this issue which I think is an urgent matter to be resolved as a matter ofurgency

 

Regards

 

Disappointed

 

 

 


Re: NVDA 2016.4rc2 Released

Michael Capelle <mcapelle@...>
 

i am running the new rc2 on both xp and 7 with no problems at all.
 

From: Kwork
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 1:01 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2016.4rc2 Released
 
I agree. the RC, or Release Candidate, stage means it's past the hurdles of the beta stage, and should be widely tested and used in advance of the official release. I don't understand peoples' unwillingness to use it when we are encouraged to do so.
Travis
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 11:40 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2016.4rc2 Released
 
There will be almost no difference, if any, between the final release and this version.  If you want to use it that much, why not use the current version?
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 12:29 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2016.4rc2 Released
 
hi quentin.
when is the time for its final release?
i realy wish to meet it soon and i count seconds for it great news.

On 12/13/16, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...> wrote:
> So-far it's working great. I'll read the "what's new" section.
>
>
>
>
>
> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin
> Christensen
> Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 9:25 PM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2016.4rc2 Released
>
>
>
> I'm Glad Rosemarie!
>
>
>
> Do let me know if you find any problems with it.
>
>
>
> Kind regards
>
>
>
> Quentin.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 4:19 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria
> <knitqueen2007@... <mailto:knitqueen2007@...> > wrote:
>
> Hi, Quentin,
>
>
>
> I just downloaded the new NVDA RC 2 and it's great.
>
>
>
> Rosemarie
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> ] On Behalf Of
> Quentin Christensen
> Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 8:35 PM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> Subject: [nvda] NVDA 2016.4rc2 Released
>
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> NVDA 2016.4rc2 has just been released for testing. This is a release
> candidate, which means that unless any critical issues are found, this
> will be identical to the final 2016.4 release.
>
> See this blog post for what's new and a download link:
>  <http://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda2016-4rc2released/>
> http://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda2016-4rc2released/
>
> NVDA
>
> --
>
> Quentin Christensen
> Training Material Developer
>
> Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available:
> http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
>
>
>
> Ph  <tel:%2B61%207%203149%203306> +61 7 3149 3306
>
> Direct: +61 413 904 383 <tel:+61%20413%20904%20383>
>  <http://www.nvaccess.org/> www.nvaccess.org
> Facebook:  <http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess>
> http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
> Twitter: @NVAccess
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Quentin Christensen
> Training Material Developer
>
> Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available:
> http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
>
>
>
> Ph  <tel:%2B61%207%203149%203306> +61 7 3149 3306
>
> Direct: +61 413 904 383
>  <http://www.nvaccess.org/> www.nvaccess.org
> Facebook:  <http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess>
> http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
> Twitter: @NVAccess
>
>
>
>


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Re: NVDA 2016.4rc2 Released

Gene
 

They are all completely separate versions.  Install any one you want.  then install any other you want.  I don't know if you need to uninstall the current one before you install the new version.  I doubt it but we'll see what others say.
 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 1:00 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2016.4rc2 Released

gene,
do you mean that i can download rc2 and install it and dont download
the original version?
if i download rc2, do i need to install final version too?

On 12/13/16, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
> There will be almost no difference, if any, between the final release and
> this version.  If you want to use it that much, why not use the current
> version?
>
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: nasrin khaksar
> Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 12:29 AM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2016.4rc2 Released
>
>
> hi quentin.
> when is the time for its final release?
> i realy wish to meet it soon and i count seconds for it great news.
>
> On 12/13/16, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...> wrote:
>> So-far it's working great. I'll read the "what's new" section.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
>> Quentin
>> Christensen
>> Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 9:25 PM
>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>> Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2016.4rc2 Released
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm Glad Rosemarie!
>>
>>
>>
>> Do let me know if you find any problems with it.
>>
>>
>>
>> Kind regards
>>
>>
>>
>> Quentin.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 4:19 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria
>> <knitqueen2007@... <mailto:knitqueen2007@...> > wrote:
>>
>> Hi, Quentin,
>>
>>
>>
>> I just downloaded the new NVDA RC 2 and it's great.
>>
>>
>>
>> Rosemarie
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>> [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> ] On Behalf Of
>> Quentin Christensen
>> Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 8:35 PM
>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>> Subject: [nvda] NVDA 2016.4rc2 Released
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> NVDA 2016.4rc2 has just been released for testing. This is a release
>> candidate, which means that unless any critical issues are found, this
>> will be identical to the final 2016.4 release.
>>
>> See this blog post for what's new and a download link:
>>  <http://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda2016-4rc2released/>
>> http://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda2016-4rc2released/
>>
>> NVDA
>>
>> --
>>
>> Quentin Christensen
>> Training Material Developer
>>
>> Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available:
>> http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
>>
>>
>>
>> Ph  <tel:%2B61%207%203149%203306> +61 7 3149 3306
>>
>> Direct: +61 413 904 383 <tel:+61%20413%20904%20383>
>>  <http://www.nvaccess.org/> www.nvaccess.org
>> Facebook:  <http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess>
>> http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
>> Twitter: @NVAccess
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Quentin Christensen
>> Training Material Developer
>>
>> Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available:
>> http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
>>
>>
>>
>> Ph  <tel:%2B61%207%203149%203306> +61 7 3149 3306
>>
>> Direct: +61 413 904 383
>>  <http://www.nvaccess.org/> www.nvaccess.org
>> Facebook:  <http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess>
>> http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
>> Twitter: @NVAccess
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
> holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
> in the very authentic narration is:
> imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
> best website for studying islamic book in different languages
> al-islam.org
>
>
>


--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org



Re: SAPI voices not speaking when I switch to them with NVDA

Chris
 

Glad you got it sorted out quite easily in the end

Its just a case of digging further for that one setting that’s causing the issue

Well done!

 

 

 


Re: Eloquence and NVDA

 

is eloquence addon is freeware or not?

On 12/13/16, Cearbhall O'Meadhra <cearbhall.omeadhra@blbc.ie> wrote:
Which one is the better voice?

All the best,

Cearbhall

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-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Simone
Dal Maso
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 8:41 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Eloquence and NVDA

For now if you want Eloquence with a regular license you should buy from
Code Factory, where you can select between addon or sapi5.


Il 13/12/2016 09:37, Cearbhall O'Meadhra ha scritto:
Hi,



Can anyone tell me how to get ETI Eloquence into my choice of voices for
NVDA?





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*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf Of
*Pranav Lal
*Sent:* Tuesday, December 13, 2016 12:40 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] SAPI voices not speaking when I switch to them
with NVDA



Chris,



Many thanks for your suggestion. I was unable to preview the voice from
the text to speech settings from within the speech-recognition control
panel. However, I went to the advanced properties for the voices and
found that they were set to use the wrong audio device.I have set them
to the correct one and the voices are speaking again.



Pranav

*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io
<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf Of
*Chris
*Sent:* Monday, December 12, 2016 2:17 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] SAPI voices not speaking when I switch to them
with NVDA



If you go to speech recognition in control panel and select text to
speech can you preview the voice through there?













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Re: NVDA 2016.4rc2 Released

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

Well personally I would download the final version when it appears as well, so you can preserve the auto update system otherwise it will be set to only update release candidates.
I think many of us tend to keep some portable versions on the system as well to get one out of trouble. Its not as good if you use Windows 10 though, but it can be a way to reinstall a known working version without having to download it.At the moment rather against advice, I am using next branch as an installed copy, but Master is probably safer if you want to keep up with developments. Note that in these versions any serious errors generate a tone. It can be ignored ifnothing breaks when you hear it but can be annoying to some.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "nasrin khaksar" <nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 7:00 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2016.4rc2 Released


gene,
do you mean that i can download rc2 and install it and dont download
the original version?
if i download rc2, do i need to install final version too?

On 12/13/16, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:
There will be almost no difference, if any, between the final release and
this version. If you want to use it that much, why not use the current
version?

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: nasrin khaksar
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 12:29 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2016.4rc2 Released


hi quentin.
when is the time for its final release?
i realy wish to meet it soon and i count seconds for it great news.

On 12/13/16, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@gmail.com> wrote:
So-far it's working great. I'll read the "what's new" section.





From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Quentin
Christensen
Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 9:25 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2016.4rc2 Released



I'm Glad Rosemarie!



Do let me know if you find any problems with it.



Kind regards



Quentin.



On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 4:19 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria
<knitqueen2007@gmail.com <mailto:knitqueen2007@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi, Quentin,



I just downloaded the new NVDA RC 2 and it's great.



Rosemarie







From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> ] On Behalf Of
Quentin Christensen
Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 8:35 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] NVDA 2016.4rc2 Released



Hi all,

NVDA 2016.4rc2 has just been released for testing. This is a release
candidate, which means that unless any critical issues are found, this
will be identical to the final 2016.4 release.

See this blog post for what's new and a download link:
<http://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda2016-4rc2released/>
http://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda2016-4rc2released/

NVDA

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Training Material Developer

Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available:
http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/



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in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org



--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org


Re: how to nagagate the new start menu on windows 10 1607

Mallard
 

Oh, but I think "nagagate" is so cute!!! *smile*

Ciao,

Ollie

Il 13/12/2016 02:46, Rosemarie Chavarria ha scritto:
Yes, that's the correct spelling--not navagate.




On 12/11/2016 12:26 PM, Shaun Oliver wrote:
ok, I really must point this out, but,,, NAGAGATE?

N, A, V, I, G, A, T, E. I believe is the spelling you're looking for.


On 12/12/2016 05:27, Louis Maher wrote:
Arlene,

Windows key + x can give you "programs and Features" where you can uninstall programs.

Windows key + x has many powerful options.


Regards
Louis Maher
Phone: 713-444-7838
E-mail: ljmaher@swbell.net

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2016 12:33 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] how to nagagate the new start menu on windows 10 1607

Oh, okay! so, you are saying windows key and E will get you to windows explorer? Just as it always does? Also, with windows key x is that where you go to find your programs? And you go uninstall them? I know this much you can shut down the computer with windows key x.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Louis Maher
Sent: December-11-16 9:32 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] how to nagagate the new start menu on windows 10 1607

Brian,

Windows key + e will give you windows explorer, and windows key + x gives you many interesting options. Arrow up twice for the power button options.




Regards
Louis Maher
Phone: 713-444-7838
E-mail: ljmaher@swbell.net

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of brian
Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2016 11:16 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] how to nagagate the new start menu on windows 10 1607

I just upgraded my windows 10 and I can not getto the left side of the start menu that has the file explorer and power button if I tab I get pins view and left arrow does nothing will this problem be corrected in version of nvda 2016.4? Are there any key board commands fornavagating the start menu/?

Brian Sackrider


On 12/11/2016 10:39 AM, Casey wrote:
Hi I am using NVDA.
Now when I used to use window-eyes and inserted A USB thumb drive and
then went under computer and looked threw my drive list.
It would tell me when I got the the drive letter that had the USB
drive connected to it.
How much was used on the drive like 98 percent or 75 percent.
And then when I would copy something to it.
It would tell me how much was need for whatever it was for me to put
on that drive if it was full.
So can you get NVDA to do this if so how?


















Re: NVDA 2016.4rc2 Released

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

No problems here so far. I think only minor changes from the last one though.


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----- Original Message -----
From: "Quentin Christensen" <quentin@nvaccess.org>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 4:35 AM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA 2016.4rc2 Released


Hi all,

NVDA 2016.4rc2 has just been released for testing. This is a release
candidate, which means that unless any critical issues are found, this
will be identical to the final 2016.4 release.

See this blog post for what's new and a download link:
http://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda2016-4rc2released/
NVDA
--
Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer
Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available:
http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Ph +61 7 3149 3306
Direct: +61 413 904 383
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