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Re: For users of mp3DirectCut: an add-on is now available for testing
Salva Doménech Miguel <kibayasd@...>
Hi. Wow, so good. It works with all versions or only the last? I'm using a very very old portable version.
Thank you so much.
Enviado desde mi iPhone
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Re: FW: Notes on NVDA and PowerPoint
Kenny Dog <hurrikennyandopo@...>
Hi Cearbhall
If you are interested I have a basic tutorial on how to use powerpoint 2010 it is not on my web site yet, but also has a list of the short cuts for it as well. It is enough to make up a powerpoint add extra slides play it etc. it has not been tidied up yet
but more can be added to it.
I got bored and started putting it together after reading the material in the email of yours. I would also like to have a look at yours when your power point tutorial is done.
I just finished off a face book tutorial yesterday and posted it along with a audio tutorial, so had a play with power point.
I think with some people they really need to get there head around ribbons first and how to navigate them first then have a go at the program.
Otherwise they will get flicked all over the place if not done correctly.
Gene nz
On 10/07/2016 11:26 AM, Cearbhall O'Meadhra wrote:
Gene,
I am using the desktop PC at the moment. That’s a good point about the laptop. I’ll get that under way as well.
PowerPoint seems to change radically over the years and keystrokes seem to differ for older versions than those which I am
using now.
I would be delighted to have the final set of instructions put up on the web but let’s prove them to be accurate first. I
am doing this work because I have found the existing pointers (few as they are!) to be incorrect and misleading. Perhaps this is because they relate to older versions.
The keystrokes I have listed here work in both JAWS 17 and NVDA for office 2010 and are the recommended ones for Office 2016
so that is hopeful!
If members of the list could try out the keystrokes and prove them correct or faulty in their own PC or laptop that would
be a great help.
All the best,
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Hi Cearbhall
The closest I have got is all the shortcuts for powerpoint that can be used. I think they are for powerpoint 2010 and 2013.
The commands you gave can they be used the same on a desktop pc? as well or are these laptop ones.
I played around with powerpoint a while ago when it was first supported but that is as far as i went.
Would you mind if these directions are also put up on a website on how to use powerpoint?
Gene nz
On 10/07/2016 6:36 AM, Cearbhall O'Meadhra wrote:
Hi,
I have been working all day on this topic and have put together the following notes about using PowerPoint with NVDA. Please let me know what you think of these notes. Have you any improvements to suggest?
I have used PowerPoint 2010 on Windows 10 using NVDA 2016.2 on my Desktop Pc.
Notes on the use of PowerPoint with NVDA
1. File opens in slide view
2. Page Down moves from slide to slide showing the title pane
For the first slide:
3. Press tab to move to the title placeholder. NVDA reads the title of the slide;
4. Press tab again to move to the subtitle placeholder. NVDA reads the subtitle;
5. Press tab again to move to the embedded graphic. NVDA says "Graphic" if no alt text;
6. Press tab again to move to rectangle shape.
7. Press tab again to return to the title placeholder at the top of the slide
Press page down For the second slide:
8. Press tab to move to the title placeholder
9. Press tab to go to the text placeholder. NVDA reads all the text in the placeholder
10. Press numpad 9 and numbpad 7 to read the text in the placeholder line by line
11. Press tab to move to the graphic image. NVDA reports the location of the graphic in the computer when the alt text has not been filled in.
Press page down for the third slide
12. Press tab for the Title placeholder
13. Press tab for the object placeholder. NVDA reads all the text as in the text placeholder at 9 above
Press pagedown for slide 4;
Same as slide 3.
Press page down for slide 5
15. Press tab for footer placeholder. NVDA reads all text in the footer;
16. Press tab for slide number placeholder. NVDA reads out the number of the slide;
17. Press tab for title placeholder
18. Press tab for text placeholder.
19. Press tab to return to the footer placeholder.
control+home jumps to the first slide
control+end jumps to the last slide.
The Slide Show
Press F5 to start the slide show
NVDA reads the whole slide from top to bottom including the title and leaves the cursor at the bottom of the slide.
1. Press page down and page up to move from slide to slide. Note that it may be necessary to wait for a few seconds between key presses to allow the slide show to catch up;
2. Press numpad 9 and numpad 7 to read the contents of the slide line by line.
3. Press return or space bar to move to the next slide. Sometimes nothing happens and then do the instruction at 4 below.
4. Type the number of a slide followed by return to jump to that slide.
5. Press control-shift-s to switch back and forth between the slide and its accompanying notes.
6. Use F6 to move between the status bar pane, slide view pane, thumbnails pane and notes pane. Use the arrow keys to move through the options available in each of these panes. Use F6 to move to the chosen
view to see the results.
7. Use the escape key to exit the slide show.
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Hi again,
I am using PowerPoint 2010 with NVDA 2016.2 and Windows 10 on a desktop PC.
All advice welcome, thanks!
All the best,
Cearbhall
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Hi,
I have taken on a new project in which I have to be able to read several PowerPoint presentations. Are there any guides for using PowerPoint with NVDA? Can anyone give me any pointers from their own experience?
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For users of mp3DirectCut: an add-on is now available for testing
Hi all, Thanks to a group of developers (Abdel and others), an add-on for mp3DirectCut is now available from NVDA Community Add-ons website under dev section: http://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/mp3DirectCut.en.html It’ll show up on our homepage once Abdel and others confirm it is ready. Thanks. Cheers, Joseph
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Re: Issue with Copying to clipboard
Ollie, as long as it works...<smile>
Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."
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On 2016-07-15 10:06 AM, Mallard wrote: Jacob,
The latest Next snapshots require pressing f10 twice... It works great here now.
Ciao,
Ollie
Il 14/07/2016 21:17, Jacob Kruger ha scritto:
Peter, 2016.2.1 - don't think that's latest snapshot, but, latest production version?
Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."
On 2016-07-14 8:29 PM, Peter Beasley wrote:
With 16.1 that is correct, but ist hads changed now.
-----Original Message----- From: Jacob Kruger
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2016 6:27 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Issue with Copying to clipboard
I don't - I just press NVDA + F9 to start selection, and NVDA + F10
handles the copy to clipboard between the two points.
And, this is with latest, 2016.2.1.
Stay well
Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."
On 2016-07-14 3:20 PM, Peter Beasley wrote:
You now have to press the F10 twice in order to copy text to the clipboard. I don't know why they have done this.
-----Original Message----- From: Mallard
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2016 12:51 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Issue with Copying to clipboard
Hello all,
I haven't followed the list for some time, so I don't know whether this
has been discussed previously.
For a few days now, I find that I can't copy text to clipboard via the
NVDA+f9-NVDA+f10 commands.
Actually, I find it difficult also to select text using the normal
Windows Shift+Down Arrow command. The only thing that seems to work is
selecting by character.
I'm running Windowss10, with the latest NVDA Next snapshot, but this has
been going on for a week at least.
I first noticed it after installing the development version of Instant
Translate to test, but I don't think this has anything to do with the issue.
Just to make sure, I uninstalled the add-on, but the problem didn't go
away.
Has anyone experienced the same problem? How have you solved it, if you
have at all?
Ciao, thanks in advance.
Ollie
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Admin. A list to discuss list administration
If you want to have a voice in how NVDA is run,
here's a way. There is a subgroup of NVDA where, From time to time,
matters will be presented for list members to discuss and often vote on.
These will be matters of list policy. The name of the subgroup of NVDA is
list matters. Members can also make proposals in this subgroup as well if
they have ideas about list administration and policies.
If you want to participate in such discussions and
votes, you can subscribe to the list by sending a blank message to
and replying to the confirmation message. I
would encourage NVDA members to join this list so you may have a voice in how
NVDA is run.
Gene
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nor, does it seem, to have anything to do with NVDA
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On 15/07/2016 17:24, Brian's Mail list account wrote: This has no subject line.
Idon't know how many folk use Farcebook on here. Certainly don't.
Brian
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Please address personal email to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2016 1:33 AM
Subject: [nvda] Fwd:
Begin forwarded message:
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Date: July 14, 2016 at 7:30:22 PM CDT
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>>
Hello all
I am trying to promote my face book group I created here, this is not a real thing is just a place where people can come and chat, I have a few people in here already, but I wanted to spread the word and maybe get some more people in it, it doesn't matter who you are,
How you've treated us in the past, or anything like that, just come on in and it's a good place to get a second chance, if you've been wanting one
For those who don't need one, just please come on in and enjoy the group, I want to try to get some activity and if possible, so post whatever you want, only rule is to just have some fun, as a matter fact there's not any, I'm going to stop rambling on and here's the link, thanks,patrick
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1750046478572747/
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Re: FW: Notes on NVDA and PowerPoint
hi again.
i installed the trial version of microsoft office to test with nvda.
nvda has great support with powerpoint,
and since i was not familiar with microsoft powerpoint and libreoffice
impress i did not know how to use it.
excuse me if my informations was incorrect about nvda and its poor
support for libreoffice impress.
i wish that someone help me to learn how to use impress with nvda@
excuse me again and God bless you all.
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On 7/15/16, Cearbhall O'Meadhra <cearbhall.omeadhra@blbc.ie> wrote: Pranav,
An interesting option! I will watch out for developments.
Meanwhile, I think we have covered all the issues with regard to PowerPoint
and its use with NVDA. I’ll write up my tutorial and post it to the list
for
observations.
Thanks for your help and to all the others who contributed.
All the best,
Cearbhall
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All
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2016 1:07 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] FW: Notes on NVDA and PowerPoint
Hi Cearbhall,
The modern PowerPoint file is a package file. A lot of it is XML. You can
review tables in slide show mode but otherwise, as of this writing, I think
we will have to edit tables outside PowerPoint. Having said that, it is
worth exploring if the tables are rendered in the NVDA object model and if
we can’t build in that feature into NVDA.
Pranav
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Cearbhall O'Meadhra
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2016 1:15 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] FW: Notes on NVDA and PowerPoint
Pranav,
Thanks for this detail! I am coming to realise more and more that
PowerPoint
is simply a tool for managing parts of a flat text file. This occurred to
me
when I opened a PowerPoint file on the iPhone. The iPhone ignores the
various control characters that PowerPoint embeds in the file to create the
slides and various display options. It simply presents the flat file!
In that case, I suppose that PowerPoint is not capable of creating a Word
table which we could navigate by using the usual screen reader table
navigation controls.
If I am right about the basic nature of the PowerPoint file, and I am open
to criticism on this if anyone can advise me, then the Powerpoint program
is
simply picking up certain characters that mean the beginning and end of a
slide and various other characters that mark the beginning and end of its
various object placeholders
For this reason, I think we can only make use of the F6 key and the tab
and
arrows to get around the PowerPoint document. I know JAWS offers far more
but I think these are only gilding the lily!
All the best,
Cearbhall
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From: <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> nvda@nvda.groups.io [
<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Pranav
Lal
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2016 1:21 AM
To: <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] FW: Notes on NVDA and PowerPoint
Hi Cearbhall,
I usually edit tables in Word or Excel and then get them into Powerpoint.
If
I must edit them in PowerPoint, I then use word by word navigation with the
ctrl+left and right arrow and line by line navigation to move around in the
table. The only way I know of is to be familiar with the content of the
table so that you know what you are editing. I wish there was a better
answer.
Pranav
From: <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> nvda@nvda.groups.io [
<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Cearbhall O'Meadhra
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2016 1:01 PM
To: <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] FW: Notes on NVDA and PowerPoint
Pranav,
Good to hear your experience. I am relieved to find that your experience
reflects my own.
I am particularly interested in the detail of navigating tables. As you
say,
column divisions are not echoed so:
1. How do you know when you are in one column or another?
2. Is there any way of knowing which column your active point is in?
3. What keystrokes are involved apart from those which you have
already
described?
All the best,
Cearbhall
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From: <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> nvda@nvda.groups.io [
<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Pranav
Lal
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2016 1:43 AM
To: <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] FW: Notes on NVDA and PowerPoint
Hi all,
In terms of table navigation and editing:
1. I can read tables in slide show mode.
2. When in object navigation mode, reading of a table or editing a
table is difficult because column seperators are not spoken. This used to
happen even with Jaws version 16 I think.
3. I am on PowerPoint 2016 and whatever has been discussed so far is
applicable to that version.
4. The tab and shift+tab are standard keystrokes. The same applies to
f6 and shift+f6.
Pranav
From: <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> nvda@nvda.groups.io [
<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike
Sedmak
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2016 2:27 AM
To: <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] FW: Notes on NVDA and PowerPoint
Has anyone had luck navigating tables in powerpoint? Table navigation does
not work for me in powerpoint.
I have to resort to using tab to step through every cell.
Thanks,
Mike
Sent from my iPhone, please forgive the typos.
On Jul 9, 2016, at 2:52 PM, Sukil Etxenike via <http://groups.io>;
Groups.io
< <mailto:sukiletxe=yahoo.es@groups.io> sukiletxe=yahoo.es@groups.io>
wrote:
Hi,
You can also press ctrl+F6 or ctrl+shift+F6 to move forth and back between
pannels. And S and D (or was it A and S) also work to go to the previous
and
next slide in the slideshow.
Regards,
Sukil
El 09/07/2016 a las 20:36, Cearbhall O'Meadhra escribió:
Hi,
I have been working all day on this topic and have put together the
following notes about using PowerPoint with NVDA. Please let me know what
you think of these notes. Have you any improvements to suggest?
I have used PowerPoint 2010 on Windows 10 using NVDA 2016.2 on my Desktop
Pc.
Notes on the use of PowerPoint with NVDA
1. File opens in slide view
2. Page Down moves from slide to slide showing the title pane
For the first slide:
3. Press tab to move to the title placeholder. NVDA reads the title of the
slide;
4. Press tab again to move to the subtitle placeholder. NVDA reads the
subtitle;
5. Press tab again to move to the embedded graphic. NVDA says "Graphic" if
no alt text;
6. Press tab again to move to rectangle shape.
7. Press tab again to return to the title placeholder at the top of the
slide
Press page down For the second slide:
8. Press tab to move to the title placeholder
9. Press tab to go to the text placeholder. NVDA reads all the text in the
placeholder
10. Press numpad 9 and numbpad 7 to read the text in the placeholder line
by
line
11. Press tab to move to the graphic image. NVDA reports the location of
the
graphic in the computer when the alt text has not been filled in.
Press page down for the third slide
12. Press tab for the Title placeholder
13. Press tab for the object placeholder. NVDA reads all the text as in the
text placeholder at 9 above
Press pagedown for slide 4;
Same as slide 3.
Press page down for slide 5
15. Press tab for footer placeholder. NVDA reads all text in the footer;
16. Press tab for slide number placeholder. NVDA reads out the number of
the
slide;
17. Press tab for title placeholder
18. Press tab for text placeholder.
19. Press tab to return to the footer placeholder.
control+home jumps to the first slide
control+end jumps to the last slide.
The Slide Show
Press F5 to start the slide show
NVDA reads the whole slide from top to bottom including the title and
leaves
the cursor at the bottom of the slide.
1. Press page down and page up to move from slide to slide. Note that it
may
be necessary to wait for a few seconds between key presses to allow the
slide show to catch up;
2. Press numpad 9 and numpad 7 to read the contents of the slide line by
line.
3. Press return or space bar to move to the next slide. Sometimes nothing
happens and then do the instruction at 4 below.
4. Type the number of a slide followed by return to jump to that slide.
5. Press control-shift-s to switch back and forth between the slide and its
accompanying notes.
6. Use F6 to move between the status bar pane, slide view pane, thumbnails
pane and notes pane. Use the arrow keys to move through the options
available in each of these panes. Use F6 to move to the chosen view to see
the results.
7. Use the escape key to exit the slide show.
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mailto:cearbhall.omeadhra@blbc.ie]
Sent: Saturday, July 9, 2016 12:08 PM
To: ' <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> nvda@nvda.groups.io'
Subject: RE: NVDA and PowerPoint
Hi again,
I am using PowerPoint 2010 with NVDA 2016.2 and Windows 10 on a desktop PC.
All advice welcome, thanks!
All the best,
Cearbhall
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<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Cearbhall O'Meadhra
Sent: Saturday, July 9, 2016 11:48 AM
To: <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and PowerPoint
Hi,
I have taken on a new project in which I have to be able to read several
PowerPoint presentations. Are there any guides for using PowerPoint with
NVDA? Can anyone give me any pointers from their own experience?
All the best,
Cearbhall
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written down with them in the Taurat and the Injeel [who] enjoins them
good and forbids them evil, and makes lawful to them the good things
and makes unlawful to them impure things, and removes from them their
burden and the shackles which were upon them; so [as for] those who
believe in him and honor him and help him, and follow the light which
has been sent down with him, these it is that are the successful.
holy quran, chapter 7, verse 157.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org
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Re: turning off suggestions in search boxes using firefox and google
hi.
in tools menu, find options, then advance and in the advance tab the
first item is general which is for accessibility.
Uncheck the option Search for text when I start typing and press enter
to confirm the changes.
Then, in options and search, uncheck Provide search suggestions and
okay your settings.
If you want to dont have search suggestions in google,
when you want to search in google,
instead of usuall address of google which is
www.google.com
type this adress and do your work with google normally!!
www.google.com/webhp?complete=0
hope thats help.
Thanks for asking and God bless you.
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On 7/15/16, Webmaster Deweer <webmaster_deweer@hotmail.be> wrote: Hi, I don't know i fit is possible in the Google search engine itself,
because that is a choice of Google Inc. But I know that you can use the
addressbar to search with Google in Firefox. That gives suggestions too. It
is possible to stop this in the options of Firefox. I don't know the address
to go to the options, but with the menu it is as follows:
Extra > Opties in Dutch, Tools > Options (or preferences or anything else)
in English.
By the way, I think that if you have a Google account, you can stop the
suggestions on the website of google too! Look in the Google Settings!
And do not forget to press the link "Screen reader users, click here the
stop Google Instant". I think this will help you much more on the Google
website!
HTH
Jordy D
Van: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] Namens Isaac
Verzonden: vrijdag 15 juli 2016 9:58
Aan: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Onderwerp: [nvda] turning off suggestions in search boxes using firefox and
google
Hi, can some one give me insight in doing this in firefox and google?
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Those who follow the Messenger-Prophet, the Ummi, whom they find
written down with them in the Taurat and the Injeel [who] enjoins them
good and forbids them evil, and makes lawful to them the good things
and makes unlawful to them impure things, and removes from them their
burden and the shackles which were upon them; so [as for] those who
believe in him and honor him and help him, and follow the light which
has been sent down with him, these it is that are the successful.
holy quran, chapter 7, verse 157.
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al-islam.org
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Re: vox clock please help me try to get one
Try the Blind-bST list. Send a blank email message to the following
email address:
blind-bst+subscribe@groups.io
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On 7/14/16, Bobby <bvinton@optonline.net> wrote: My name is Bobby Vinton and I am 39 years old and I am looking all over
for a vox clock 3. I hope some one on this list has one or knows some
one who no longer wants theres and is willing to sell this clock. As I
said mine broke when I was 9 years old.
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How to find suggestions during spellcheck in Googledox
Hello all,
Does anyone know how to find suggestions during spellchecking in Google Dox wi th NVDA?
A friend is asking this question.
Thanks in advance,
Ciao
Ollie
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Re: vox clock please help me try to get one
Try The Royal Post. This used to be known as Blind Treasures where the buying and selling of talking products is conducted and often some older vintage items will show up.
Roger
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On 7/14/2016 6:59 PM, Bobby wrote: My name is Bobby Vinton and I am 39 years old and I am looking all over for a vox clock 3. I hope some one on this list has one or knows some one who no longer wants theres and is willing to sell this clock. As I said mine broke when I was 9 years old.
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Re: Issue with Copying to clipboard
Yes.
Obviously, after you've selected the text with nvda+f9 and nvda+f10, you can cut, remove, replace the selected text only in edit text documents.
Of course, the position marker with review cursor is useful to copy in text only read, when the text is not accessible in focus mode.
Cheers.
Chris.
Chris Mullins, 15/07/2016 12:18:
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So does this effectively make it a tool for text selection which allows you
to then use ctrl x to cut or delete to remove the selected text as well as
f10/ctrl c to copy to clipboard?
Cheers
Chris
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of ChrisLeo
Sent: 15 July, 2016 9:58 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Issue with Copying to clipboard
Hi Ollie,
this is a new feature in the recent developments snapshots to select some
text.
The key nvda+F10:
If pressed once, the text from the previously set start marker up to and
including the current position of the review cursor is selected.
If pressed twice, the text is copied to the clipboard.
Cheers.
Chris.
Mallard, 14/07/2016 13:51:
Hello all,
I haven't followed the list for some time, so I don't know whether this
has been discussed previously.
For a few days now, I find that I can't copy text to clipboard via the
NVDA+f9-NVDA+f10 commands.
Actually, I find it difficult also to select text using the normal
Windows Shift+Down Arrow command. The only thing that seems to work is
selecting by character.
I'm running Windowss10, with the latest NVDA Next snapshot, but this has
been going on for a week at least.
I first noticed it after installing the development version of Instant
Translate to test, but I don't think this has anything to do with the
issue.
Just to make sure, I uninstalled the add-on, but the problem didn't go
away.
Has anyone experienced the same problem? How have you solved it, if you
have at all?
Ciao, thanks in advance.
Ollie
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Re: Issue with Copying to clipboard
So does this effectively make it a tool for text selection which allows you
to then use ctrl x to cut or delete to remove the selected text as well as
f10/ctrl c to copy to clipboard?
Cheers
Chris
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-----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of ChrisLeo Sent: 15 July, 2016 9:58 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Issue with Copying to clipboard Hi Ollie, this is a new feature in the recent developments snapshots to select some text. The key nvda+F10: If pressed once, the text from the previously set start marker up to and including the current position of the review cursor is selected. If pressed twice, the text is copied to the clipboard. Cheers. Chris. Mallard, 14/07/2016 13:51: Hello all,
I haven't followed the list for some time, so I don't know whether this
has been discussed previously.
For a few days now, I find that I can't copy text to clipboard via the
NVDA+f9-NVDA+f10 commands.
Actually, I find it difficult also to select text using the normal
Windows Shift+Down Arrow command. The only thing that seems to work is
selecting by character.
I'm running Windowss10, with the latest NVDA Next snapshot, but this has
been going on for a week at least.
I first noticed it after installing the development version of Instant
Translate to test, but I don't think this has anything to do with the
issue.
Just to make sure, I uninstalled the add-on, but the problem didn't go
away.
Has anyone experienced the same problem? How have you solved it, if you
have at all?
Ciao, thanks in advance.
Ollie
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Re: turning off suggestions in search boxes using firefox and google
jordy deweer <webmaster_deweer@...>
Hi, I don’t know i fit is possible in the Google search engine itself, because that is a choice of Google Inc. But I know that you
can use the addressbar to search with Google in Firefox. That gives suggestions too. It is possible to stop this in the options of Firefox. I don’t know the address to go to the options, but with the menu it is as follows:
Extra > Opties in Dutch, Tools > Options (or preferences or anything else) in English.
By the way, I think that if you have a Google account, you can stop the suggestions on the website of google too! Look in the Google
Settings!
And do not forget to press the link “Screen reader users, click here the stop Google Instant”. I think this will help you much more
on the Google website!
HTH
Jordy D
Van: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io]
Namens Isaac
Verzonden: vrijdag 15 juli 2016 9:58
Aan: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Onderwerp: [nvda] turning off suggestions in search boxes using firefox and google
Hi, can some one give me insight in doing this in firefox and google?
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Re: Issue with Copying to clipboard
Hi Ollie,
this is a new feature in the recent developments snapshots to select some text.
The key nvda+F10:
If pressed once, the text from the previously set start marker up to and including the current position of the review cursor is selected.
If pressed twice, the text is copied to the clipboard.
Cheers.
Chris.
Mallard, 14/07/2016 13:51:
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
Hello all,
I haven't followed the list for some time, so I don't know whether this
has been discussed previously.
For a few days now, I find that I can't copy text to clipboard via the
NVDA+f9-NVDA+f10 commands.
Actually, I find it difficult also to select text using the normal
Windows Shift+Down Arrow command. The only thing that seems to work is
selecting by character.
I'm running Windowss10, with the latest NVDA Next snapshot, but this has
been going on for a week at least.
I first noticed it after installing the development version of Instant
Translate to test, but I don't think this has anything to do with the
issue.
Just to make sure, I uninstalled the add-on, but the problem didn't go
away.
Has anyone experienced the same problem? How have you solved it, if you
have at all?
Ciao, thanks in advance.
Ollie
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Re: Firefox going blank on edit boxes
Brian Thank you for taking the trouble to reply. I don't understand the point you are making, but I just thought I would share the solution in case anyone else is having trouble signing in to their web pages on Firefox. I had "Enable Java Access Bridge" in the Ease of access centre control panel because I thought that Java might have been running. However, that prevented NVDA from entering the edit boxes for signing in and entering the password. As soon as I turned off Java Access Bridge I was able to sign in without any problem! I hope this information helps someone else to save tearing out more of their hair! All the best, Cearbhall m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@blbc.ie to ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- I use the free version of Spam Reader to get rid of spam. The Professional version doesn't have this disclaimer in outgoing emails. Try Spam Reader ( http://www.spam-reader.com) for free now!
-----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian's Mail list account Sent: Friday, July 15, 2016 8:45 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox going blank on edit boxes do you mean on web pages or on windows dialogues. I've noticed the latter in word and other software, often switching to desktop and back seems to get the focus back again. I've noted this mentioned before but not seen anyone raise it in a ticket. It might be a problem in Windows on some machines. However if tis web sites you are talking about, then no only on websites that have edit area issues for everyone due to rubbish or flash coding on the page. Brian bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cearbhall O'Meadhra" <cearbhall.omeadhra@blbc.ie> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2016 7:18 PM Subject: [nvda] Firefox going blank on edit boxes Hi,
I am using NVDA 2016.2 with the latest Firefox in Windows 10.
I frequently find that when I open a registration page in Firefox, the
edit boxes are showing and when I press enter to open the edit box I
get a confirmation sound of opening . However, when I type my user
name in , nothing appears. I thought this might have to do with
having Java Access bridge enabled but that is enabled so that cannot
explain the problem!
Can anyone explain what is happening and how I can fix it?
All the best,
Cearbhall
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Re: FW: Notes on NVDA and PowerPoint
Pranav, An interesting option! I will watch out for developments. Meanwhile, I think we have covered all the issues with regard to PowerPoint and its use with NVDA. I’ll write up my tutorial and post it to the list for observations. Thanks for your help and to all the others who contributed. All the best, Cearbhall m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@... I use the free version of Spam Reader to get rid of spam. The Professional version doesn't have this disclaimer in outgoing emails. Try Spam Reader for free now!
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pranav All
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2016 1:07 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] FW: Notes on NVDA and PowerPoint Hi Cearbhall, The modern PowerPoint file is a package file. A lot of it is XML. You can review tables in slide show mode but otherwise, as of this writing, I think we will have to edit tables outside PowerPoint. Having said that, it is worth exploring if the tables are rendered in the NVDA object model and if we can’t build in that feature into NVDA. Pranav From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cearbhall O'Meadhra
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2016 1:15 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] FW: Notes on NVDA and PowerPoint Pranav, Thanks for this detail! I am coming to realise more and more that PowerPoint is simply a tool for managing parts of a flat text file. This occurred to me when I opened a PowerPoint file on the iPhone. The iPhone ignores the various control characters that PowerPoint embeds in the file to create the slides and various display options. It simply presents the flat file! In that case, I suppose that PowerPoint is not capable of creating a Word table which we could navigate by using the usual screen reader table navigation controls. If I am right about the basic nature of the PowerPoint file, and I am open to criticism on this if anyone can advise me, then the Powerpoint program is simply picking up certain characters that mean the beginning and end of a slide and various other characters that mark the beginning and end of its various object placeholders For this reason, I think we can only make use of the F6 key and the tab and arrows to get around the PowerPoint document. I know JAWS offers far more but I think these are only gilding the lily! All the best, Cearbhall m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@... I use the free version of Spam Reader to get rid of spam. The Professional version doesn't have this disclaimer in outgoing emails. Try Spam Reader for free now! Hi Cearbhall, I usually edit tables in Word or Excel and then get them into Powerpoint. If I must edit them in PowerPoint, I then use word by word navigation with the ctrl+left and right arrow and line by line navigation to move around in the table. The only way I know of is to be familiar with the content of the table so that you know what you are editing. I wish there was a better answer. Pranav Pranav, Good to hear your experience. I am relieved to find that your experience reflects my own. I am particularly interested in the detail of navigating tables. As you say, column divisions are not echoed so: 1. How do you know when you are in one column or another? 2. Is there any way of knowing which column your active point is in? 3. What keystrokes are involved apart from those which you have already described? All the best, Cearbhall m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@... I use the free version of Spam Reader to get rid of spam. The Professional version doesn't have this disclaimer in outgoing emails. Try Spam Reader for free now! Hi all, In terms of table navigation and editing: 1. I can read tables in slide show mode. 2. When in object navigation mode, reading of a table or editing a table is difficult because column seperators are not spoken. This used to happen even with Jaws version 16 I think. 3. I am on PowerPoint 2016 and whatever has been discussed so far is applicable to that version. 4. The tab and shift+tab are standard keystrokes. The same applies to f6 and shift+f6. Pranav Has anyone had luck navigating tables in powerpoint? Table navigation does not work for me in powerpoint. I have to resort to using tab to step through every cell.
Thanks, Sent from my iPhone, please forgive the typos. Hi,
You can also press ctrl+F6 or ctrl+shift+F6 to move forth and back between pannels. And S and D (or was it A and S) also work to go to the previous and next slide in the slideshow. Regards,
Sukil
El 09/07/2016 a las 20:36, Cearbhall O'Meadhra escribió: Hi, I have been working all day on this topic and have put together the following notes about using PowerPoint with NVDA. Please let me know what you think of these notes. Have you any improvements to suggest? I have used PowerPoint 2010 on Windows 10 using NVDA 2016.2 on my Desktop Pc. Notes on the use of PowerPoint with NVDA 1. File opens in slide view 2. Page Down moves from slide to slide showing the title pane For the first slide: 3. Press tab to move to the title placeholder. NVDA reads the title of the slide; 4. Press tab again to move to the subtitle placeholder. NVDA reads the subtitle; 5. Press tab again to move to the embedded graphic. NVDA says "Graphic" if no alt text; 6. Press tab again to move to rectangle shape. 7. Press tab again to return to the title placeholder at the top of the slide Press page down For the second slide: 8. Press tab to move to the title placeholder 9. Press tab to go to the text placeholder. NVDA reads all the text in the placeholder 10. Press numpad 9 and numbpad 7 to read the text in the placeholder line by line 11. Press tab to move to the graphic image. NVDA reports the location of the graphic in the computer when the alt text has not been filled in. Press page down for the third slide 12. Press tab for the Title placeholder 13. Press tab for the object placeholder. NVDA reads all the text as in the text placeholder at 9 above Press pagedown for slide 4; Same as slide 3. Press page down for slide 5 15. Press tab for footer placeholder. NVDA reads all text in the footer; 16. Press tab for slide number placeholder. NVDA reads out the number of the slide; 17. Press tab for title placeholder 18. Press tab for text placeholder. 19. Press tab to return to the footer placeholder. control+home jumps to the first slide control+end jumps to the last slide. The Slide Show Press F5 to start the slide show NVDA reads the whole slide from top to bottom including the title and leaves the cursor at the bottom of the slide. 1. Press page down and page up to move from slide to slide. Note that it may be necessary to wait for a few seconds between key presses to allow the slide show to catch up; 2. Press numpad 9 and numpad 7 to read the contents of the slide line by line. 3. Press return or space bar to move to the next slide. Sometimes nothing happens and then do the instruction at 4 below. 4. Type the number of a slide followed by return to jump to that slide. 5. Press control-shift-s to switch back and forth between the slide and its accompanying notes. 6. Use F6 to move between the status bar pane, slide view pane, thumbnails pane and notes pane. Use the arrow keys to move through the options available in each of these panes. Use F6 to move to the chosen view to see the results. 7. Use the escape key to exit the slide show. I use the free version of Spam Reader to get rid of spam. The Professional version doesn't have this disclaimer in outgoing emails. Try Spam Reader for free now! Hi again, I am using PowerPoint 2010 with NVDA 2016.2 and Windows 10 on a desktop PC. All advice welcome, thanks! All the best, Cearbhall m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@... I use the free version of Spam Reader to get rid of spam. The Professional version doesn't have this disclaimer in outgoing emails. Try Spam Reader for free now! Hi, I have taken on a new project in which I have to be able to read several PowerPoint presentations. Are there any guides for using PowerPoint with NVDA? Can anyone give me any pointers from their own experience?
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Re: Issue with Copying to clipboard
Yes, I too find it complicated to select text even with ordinary Windows commands. That's why I always use NVDA copying methos, ehiwh is fast and effective, and definitely easier to handle.
This is one of the features I'm most grateful for in NVDA.
Ciao,
Ollie
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Il 14/07/2016 16:48, Brian's Mail list account ha scritto: I think selecting and copying text in windows 10 is an issue in itself. Its one of the things that seems to often not work, or be very delayed compared to other versions of windows.
I do not know if this only happens when nvda is in use, as I'd supposed it was the old sluggishness of uia issues on some machines.
Flakey if doing a lot seems to be the issue. It not so bad on 7 and fine on xp here.
I think we need a sighted person to do some tests with andwithout nvda just using the normal windows keys not the mouse.
Brian
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Mallard" <mallard@kimabe.eu>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2016 12:51 PM
Subject: [nvda] Issue with Copying to clipboard
Hello all,
I haven't followed the list for some time, so I don't know whether this has been discussed previously.
For a few days now, I find that I can't copy text to clipboard via the NVDA+f9-NVDA+f10 commands.
Actually, I find it difficult also to select text using the normal Windows Shift+Down Arrow command. The only thing that seems to work is selecting by character.
I'm running Windowss10, with the latest NVDA Next snapshot, but this has been going on for a week at least.
I first noticed it after installing the development version of Instant Translate to test, but I don't think this has anything to do with the issue.
Just to make sure, I uninstalled the add-on, but the problem didn't go away.
Has anyone experienced the same problem? How have you solved it, if you have at all?
Ciao, thanks in advance.
Ollie
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Re: Issue with Copying to clipboard
Jacob,
I know... It worked for me more or less till last week or 10 days ago. It's from the latest Next snapshots that I started having this behavour. So, be prepared... It might come your way too!!!
Ciao,
Ollie
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Il 14/07/2016 19:46, Jacob Kruger ha scritto: Ollie, I have only been pressing NVDA + F10 once, and it's been working for me all along - odd indeed...<smile>
Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."
On 2016-07-14 4:26 PM, Mallard wrote:
Thanks Jacob,
The problem was really that I only pressed f10 once, as usual, but now it's f10 twice to copy selection...
Odd indeed!
Ciao,
Ollie
Il 14/07/2016 13:56, Jacob Kruger ha scritto:
Both forms of selection work fine for me?
What review mode are you working with?
Ask since, while don't think it should cause an issue, I am in sort of default object review mode, but, think, at least the f9/f10 commands should work fine in screen review mode as well, but, for the standard shift selection, make sure you are in object review mode, just in case.
Stay well
Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."
On 2016-07-14 1:51 PM, Mallard wrote:
Hello all,
I haven't followed the list for some time, so I don't know whether this has been discussed previously.
For a few days now, I find that I can't copy text to clipboard via the NVDA+f9-NVDA+f10 commands.
Actually, I find it difficult also to select text using the normal Windows Shift+Down Arrow command. The only thing that seems to work is selecting by character.
I'm running Windowss10, with the latest NVDA Next snapshot, but this has been going on for a week at least.
I first noticed it after installing the development version of Instant Translate to test, but I don't think this has anything to do with the issue.
Just to make sure, I uninstalled the add-on, but the problem didn't go away.
Has anyone experienced the same problem? How have you solved it, if you have at all?
Ciao, thanks in advance.
Ollie
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Re: Firefox going blank on edit boxes
Hello,
No idea whether it maters or not, but try pressing space to open the edit box rather than enter.
Ciao,
Ollie
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Il 14/07/2016 20:18, Cearbhall O'Meadhra ha scritto:
Hi,
I am using NVDA 2016.2 with the latest Firefox in Windows 10.
I frequently find that when I open a registration page in Firefox, the edit boxes are showing and when I press enter to open the edit box I get a confirmation sound of opening . However, when I type my user name in , nothing appears. I thought this might have to do with having Java Access bridge enabled but that is enabled so that cannot explain the problem!
Can anyone explain what is happening and how I can fix it?
All the best,
Cearbhall
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