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Re: Anti Virus

Gene
 

That's not why Windows Defender has a bad reputation.  It is better than it used to be but still not particularly good.  See this article and if people want more information, a search for something like Windows Defender review 2016 should bring up many relevant results.
Gene
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 10:00 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Anti Virus

I've been using Windows Defender.  Only caution I'd give is to do a
manual check for updates several times a day as their virus database is
updated several times a day but the program will only check itself once
when you start the computer.  This is probably why it seems to have a
bad reputation.  They need to fix this so it will check by itself every
couple of hours.

Roger










On 11/18/2016 10:53 PM, Andrea Sherry wrote:
> Using Windows10 Pro on 64 bit machine.
>
> Tried a number of these: AVG, Avast, Mcaffee and others.
>
> I have had problems with all including installation, preferences,
> accessing menus etc.
>
> Is there such a beast which allows NVDA to access during installation,
> preferences and response to virus alerts? I'm not really interested in
> any freeware though I don't want to pay the earth.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Cheers
>
> Andrea
>
>




Re: Anti Virus

William Sallander <wsallander@...>
 

I am currently using Vipre Internet Security; there are at least three different flavors for home users.

I find it to be quite accessible and as far as I saw from reviews, it was better then Defender.

Yes it is true that Windows Defender is very accessible, but when it comes to updates, you need to play with the task scheduler within Windows.

As far as protection, it's just enough to keep you out of trouble on a temperary basis, but as it stands now, I wouldn't make it the daily driver. There has been some slight improvements so stay tuned.

On 11/19/2016 11:00 AM, Roger Stewart wrote:
I've been using Windows Defender. Only caution I'd give is to do a manual check for updates several times a day as their virus database is updated several times a day but the program will only check itself once when you start the computer. This is probably why it seems to have a bad reputation. They need to fix this so it will check by itself every couple of hours.

Roger










On 11/18/2016 10:53 PM, Andrea Sherry wrote:
Using Windows10 Pro on 64 bit machine.

Tried a number of these: AVG, Avast, Mcaffee and others.

I have had problems with all including installation, preferences, accessing menus etc.

Is there such a beast which allows NVDA to access during installation, preferences and response to virus alerts? I'm not really interested in any freeware though I don't want to pay the earth.

Any suggestions?

Cheers

Andrea



Re: Anti Virus

Roger Stewart
 

I've been using Windows Defender. Only caution I'd give is to do a manual check for updates several times a day as their virus database is updated several times a day but the program will only check itself once when you start the computer. This is probably why it seems to have a bad reputation. They need to fix this so it will check by itself every couple of hours.

Roger

On 11/18/2016 10:53 PM, Andrea Sherry wrote:
Using Windows10 Pro on 64 bit machine.

Tried a number of these: AVG, Avast, Mcaffee and others.

I have had problems with all including installation, preferences, accessing menus etc.

Is there such a beast which allows NVDA to access during installation, preferences and response to virus alerts? I'm not really interested in any freeware though I don't want to pay the earth.

Any suggestions?

Cheers

Andrea


Re: how do I find microsoft edge

The Gamages
 

Hello Rosemary,

This may sound daft but try typing "microsoft" into the search, it
brings up a list of stuff on my computer and edge is in it.



Best Regards, Jim.

-----Original Message-----
From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 11:43 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] how do I find microsoft edge

I just tried that and it didn't work. I had my sighted nephew look at it
through team viewer and he said it's not on the computer at all. I
didn't do anything to it. This is a brand-new computer so I don't know
why edge wouldn't be on it.




On 11/18/2016 3:35 PM, David Griffith wrote:
This is a little surprising.

what I find is that after typing

just E and then D Microsoft Edge Recommended app is identified by
Windows as an option and just pressing enter runs it.

Try just typing E and then D rather than edge and see if that works
better.

David Griffith
On 18/11/2016 22:55, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Hi, everyone,


I tried typing edge in the start menu search bosx and hit enter but
edgedidn't show up. NVDA said the word but I can't find the actual
browser. Wanted to give it a try.


Thanks for your help in advance.


Rosemarie








Re: Anti Virus

enes sarıbaş
 

I wouldn't recommend it. It is ranked low on many independant antivirus tests. For this reason using a third party solution is probably better.

On 11/19/2016 9:09 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:

Why not just use Windows Defender, which has been Microsoft's built-in antivirus and antimalware (to an extent) program packaged with all Windows versions since Windows 8?

There is noting to install and it's probably more accessible than many third party products.
--
Brian

Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.  If you’re alive, it isn’t.

    ~ Lauren Bacall

    




Connecting a Brailliant BI 40 to NVDA via bluetooth does not work.

Michel Such
 

Hi all,


We are trying to connect the subject braille display to NVDA.

It works fine via USB but, via bluetooth, NVDA can't detect the display.

For info, it works with Jaws.

Could it be that, even when stopped, Jaws would keep the port for him or something like this?




--
Michel SUCH

michel.such@free.fr
Skype : michel.such
Twitter : @SuchMichel


Re: drop box dil

Gene
 

If you can send real public links, they may not have anything at the end.  If you are sharing links, which can be used in the same way but are technically different, there will be dl=0 at the end.  As far as dl=1 is concerned, it's always a good idea, when sending a public link or a shared link, to make sure dl=1 is at the end.  If it isn't there, some people will have a file play if its an audio file.  I'm not sure if other files ever open instead of download.  But Drop box is set up to cause dl=1 to force a download of a file, no matter what kind of file it is and no matter what browser and settings in the browser or other programs are used.  I always make sure dl=1 is at the end of any file I send to anyone.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 5:51 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] drop box dil

Yes indeed. Dropbox links sometimes do come up with nothing on the end, but
I have no idea why this happens sometimes and not others. I can confirm the
dl 1 and zeio system of forcing it to run or download, but I think when its
not there the decision lies withhow you set up the browser to react.
 Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 10:50 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] drop box dil


When you send the link, try adding ?dl=1 to the end of the link.  Look at
the syntax character by character to make sure you see exactly what I wrote.
Note the     question mark at the beginning.  If the link already has ?dl=0
at the end, delete the 0 and place a 1 there.  You only have to add the rest
if it isn't already there.

This has nothing to do withh Internet Explorer.  It's a Drop Box matter.
Gene
----- Original Message -----


From: Arlene
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 11:17 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] drop box dil


Hi list. How do you fix drop box dell in IE 11. I can share public link When
I pretended to down load my link it will not let me download it. How do I
fix this problem?





Re: drop box dil

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

Yes indeed. Dropbox links sometimes do come up with nothing on the end, but I have no idea why this happens sometimes and not others. I can confirm the dl 1 and zeio system of forcing it to run or download, but I think when its not there the decision lies withhow you set up the browser to react.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@ripco.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 10:50 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] drop box dil


When you send the link, try adding ?dl=1 to the end of the link. Look at the syntax character by character to make sure you see exactly what I wrote. Note the question mark at the beginning. If the link already has ?dl=0 at the end, delete the 0 and place a 1 there. You only have to add the rest if it isn't already there.

This has nothing to do withh Internet Explorer. It's a Drop Box matter.
Gene
----- Original Message -----


From: Arlene
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 11:17 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] drop box dil


Hi list. How do you fix drop box dell in IE 11. I can share public link When I pretended to down load my link it will not let me download it. How do I fix this problem?


Re: drop box dil

Gene
 

When you send the link, try adding ?dl=1 to the end of the link.  Look at the syntax character by character to make sure you see exactly what I wrote.  Note the     question mark at the beginning.  If the link already has ?dl=0 at the end, delete the 0 and place a 1 there.  You only have to add the rest if it isn't already there. 
 
This has nothing to do withh Internet Explorer.  It's a Drop Box matter.
Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Arlene
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 11:17 PM
Subject: [nvda] drop box dil

Hi list. How do you fix drop box dell in IE 11. I can share public link When I pretended to down load my link it will not let me download it. How do I fix this problem?


Re: Need to advise a sitghted person

 

well on radio one of the blind djs I listen to says one of his uncles who is a truck driver or something likes to run jaws to read him his stuff so he can read the news paper while he drives his truck.

On 19/11/2016 9:40 p.m., Felix G. wrote:
Hello,
in Firefox, under Preferences / Advanced / General tab, there is an
accessibility section. One of the check boxes it provides allows text
highlighting with the keyboard. That may be what your friend is looking for.
I also often run into those situations where sighted people marvel at the
efficiency of using a screen reader. A close friend of mine sometimes even
turns on NVDA without speech to get the link list and the full text search,
and I have known at least one sighted person who likes to have text read to
her by Espeak.
Surreal but true.
Kind regards,
Felix

Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> schrieb am Fr., 18. Nov. 2016 um
17:30 Uhr:

If the website(s) in question can be shared I'd love to take a look at
them.

As Travis has noted, there are ways to prevent copy and paste of all sorts
of things on webpages, but for something like a web address to another web
page I've not seen that done. It could be a part of some other protected
object that a sighted user is intentionally prevented from copying.

Going from the abstract to the actual is the only way I know of to
determine what's actually happening for you that somehow isn't happening
for your colleagues. A simple copy and paste of URLs/web addresses should
always work as far as if you can copy and paste them into an e-mail or
document others should be able to follow those to their respective
destinations.
--
*Brian*

*Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete. If
you’re alive, it isn’t.*

~ Lauren Bacall






Re: The New Firefox version

 

I have fixed my issue round about and found a faster way in navigation as a result, its a bit meh like if I screw up a url or something but I can avoid the issue its not that bad now I can get round it I just have to be on my toes.
Ofcause since mozilla updates in the background it can be a bit of a shocker when it changes.
Sadly there doesn't seem to be any address box view where things will just work.
I really wish it wouldn't convert to listbox mode because well its just bad.
If there was something that would revert the address box to what it was then that would be fine.

On 18/11/2016 4:40 p.m., Laurie Mehta via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi,
My Firefox just updated to version 50 and I am not having any of the problematic issues that others have reported.
--However,
I am still using NVDA v16.1-- have not upgraded yet to the newer versions of NVDA.
After reading one list member's comments saying that NVDA v16.4 will likely work fine with the latest Firefox, I plan to wait for this one to come out before upgrading this year.

Thanks everyone, for what you've shared.
LM

--------------------------------------------
On Thu, 11/17/16, Mallard <mallard@kimabe.eu> wrote:

Subject: Re: [nvda] The New Firefox version
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Date: Thursday, November 17, 2016, 12:36 PM

Firefox is indeed getting worse and
worse. I'm looking into abandoning
it altogether, and would already have done so, if it weren't
for
Webvisum, which I need fairly frequently.

Rumola never worked for me, so I'm stuck for now... Until
further
developments.

Ciao,

Ollie





Il 17/11/2016 18:18, Brian's Mail list account ha scritto:
> Apart from a few issues version 48 will work on all
windows from xp up.
> Sadly things started to go bad on 49 amd seemingly
continue to get
> worse after that.
> Brian
>
> bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
> Sent via blueyonder.
> Please address personal email to:-
> briang1@blueyonder.co.uk,
putting 'Brian Gaff'
> in the display name field.
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arlene" <nedster66@gmail.com>
> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2016 5:41 PM
> Subject: Re: [nvda] The New Firefox version
>
>
>> I can't say I don't blame you.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io]
On Behalf Of
>> Shaun
>> Everiss
>> Sent: November-16-16 9:29 AM
>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>> Subject: Re: [nvda] The New Firefox version
>>
>> It seems to only happen if I edit the end of an
address bar.
>> Right now I have selected the end of the bar in the
case of twitter
>> names
>> and then hit delete and that works well enough.
>> However if you screw a site up you have to kill
what you spelt and
>> hmm well
>> hit an arrow to get focus.
>> On the subject of sluggishness I used classic theme
restorer to hide the
>> toolbars for navigation and remove all colours on
toolbars, this
>> seemed to
>> speed things up a little bit.
>> I also have changed a lot of the newer modern
windows to older
>> windows as
>> well as a few extra dom related things with that
program.
>> Firefox is as fast as it ever was, but its a
disturbing trend that stuff
>> like this is happening, I am still using it but to
be honest if
>> security was
>> not a major issue I'd drop back a version and
either never update or
>> drop
>> back to 3x which works however I like to stay as
updated as i can for
>> security reasons.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 16/11/2016 11:04 p.m., Gene wrote:
>>> I didn't save earlier messages about Firefox so
I'm answering in a new
>> thread. I just downloaded and tried the new
version and this problem
>> appears to be very easily worked around. If
you delete a letter or more
>> than one in the address bar, simply right arrow
once then start
>> moving left
>> again and, at least in my tests, things are read
properly. While this
>> problem should be corrected, this appears to
resolve the problem.
>>>
>>> Gene
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>







.


Re: Need to advise a sitghted person

Felix G.
 

Hello,
in Firefox, under Preferences / Advanced / General tab, there is an accessibility section. One of the check boxes it provides allows text highlighting with the keyboard. That may be what your friend is looking for.
I also often run into those situations where sighted people marvel at the efficiency of using a screen reader. A close friend of mine sometimes even turns on NVDA without speech to get the link list and the full text search, and I have known at least one sighted person who likes to have text read to her by Espeak.
Surreal but true.
Kind regards,
Felix

Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> schrieb am Fr., 18. Nov. 2016 um 17:30 Uhr:

If the website(s) in question can be shared I'd love to take a look at them.

As Travis has noted, there are ways to prevent copy and paste of all sorts of things on webpages, but for something like a web address to another web page I've not seen that done.  It could be a part of some other protected object that a sighted user is intentionally prevented from copying.

Going from the abstract to the actual is the only way I know of to determine what's actually happening for you that somehow isn't happening for your colleagues.  A simple copy and paste of URLs/web addresses should always work as far as if you can copy and paste them into an e-mail or document others should be able to follow those to their respective destinations.
--
Brian

Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.  If you’re alive, it isn’t.

    ~ Lauren Bacall

    



Re: Anti Virus

 

Why not just use Windows Defender, which has been Microsoft's built-in antivirus and antimalware (to an extent) program packaged with all Windows versions since Windows 8?

There is noting to install and it's probably more accessible than many third party products.
--
Brian

Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.  If you’re alive, it isn’t.

    ~ Lauren Bacall

    



drop box dil

Arlene
 

Hi list. How do you fix drop box dell in IE 11. I can share public link When I pretended to down load my link it will not let me download it. How do I fix this problem?


Anti Virus

Andrea Sherry
 

Using Windows10 Pro on 64 bit machine.

Tried a number of these: AVG, Avast, Mcaffee and others.

I have had problems with all including installation, preferences, accessing menus etc.

Is there such a beast which allows NVDA to access during installation, preferences and response to virus alerts? I'm not really interested in any freeware though I don't want to pay the earth.

Any suggestions?

Cheers

Andrea


--
Though no one can go back and make a brand new start, anyone can start from now and make a brand new ending." - Carl Brad


disabling cortana

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, everyone,


Is there a way to turn off cortana? The girl at the microsoft disability line turned it on but I don't use it. She had to change my profile to get it to work but she turned on cortana.


Thanks for your help in advance.


Rosemarie


Re: edge showed up when I was scanning a document but I still can't make it come up as a browser

Gene
 

I don't use Windows 10 so not everything I say may apply.  Others may provide more details about how to do these things in Windows 10 if you need to know.  My last description about how to find the exe file may be useful but, as I said, there may be more information others may give that is specific to Windows 10. 
 
You may want to wait to see what other information or suggestions you get.  I'm writing this message so that you will have things to try now if you want, or later if you don't get other suggestions that work.
 
I don't know why you don't see the program when you search for it.  Since it is obviously on your machine, you can run it in another way.  First, have you checked in the list of all apps or whatever it is called in Windows 10?  if it isn't there, I assume, not using Windows 10 myself, that there is a folder named programs on the c drive.  Open that folder in file Explorer or whatever way you look at the c drive.  Look in the folder to seee what is there.  If there is a folder named Microsoft open it.  See what programs are there.  If Edge is there, open the folder.  Look for an exe file.  It may say something like Edge.exe.  You can then run Edge by pressing enter.  But instead of running edge when you find the exe file, create a shortcut on the desktop using the exe file.
 
Gene

Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 6:45 PM
Subject: [nvda] edge showed up when I was scanning a document but I still can't make it come up as a browser

Hi, everyone,


I still can't get edge to start but when I was reading a document with
abbyy fine reader, edge showed up. I don't understand what's happening
and it's driveing me crazy! Why can it scan documents for me but not be
used as a browser? Something's gotta give here!


Rosemarie






Re: how do I find microsoft edge

Jason White
 

Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@gmail.com> wrote:
I just tried that and it didn't work. I had my sighted nephew look at it
through team viewer and he said it's not on the computer at all. I didn't do
anything to it. This is a brand-new computer so I don't know why edge
wouldn't be on it.

Run System Information and check that you do indeed have Windows 10.


edge showed up when I was scanning a document but I still can't make it come up as a browser

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, everyone,


I still can't get edge to start but when I was reading a document with abbyy fine reader, edge showed up. I don't understand what's happening and it's driveing me crazy! Why can it scan documents for me but not be used as a browser? Something's gotta give here!


Rosemarie


Re: How to make NVDA say words using laptop

Arlene
 

Got it fixed! Thanks!

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene New Zealand
Sent: November-18-16 11:39 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to make NVDA say words using laptop

 

The nvda key will along with the number 2 turn characters on and off.

 

If you do the nvda key + the number 3 this will turn the words on and off.

 

Gene nz

 

 

On 19/11/2016 8:16 AM, Arlene wrote:

Hi list: I have a friend who is borrowing a windows ten laptop. How does one allow NVDA to say words instead of echo charictors?  Thanks any help will be appriciated.