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Re: colum headers in thunderbird

Mallard
 

Hello Brian,


This is a gem for me too. Many thanks for sharing.

Ciao,

Ollie

Il 21/11/2016 21:46, Brian Vogel ha scritto:

William, the following is a cut and paste from an accessibility central webpage (see here <http://accessibilitycentral.net/accessible%20email%20client%20mozilla%20thunderbird.html>) regarding using NVDA and Thunderbird. Since the method suggested for what you wish to do involves object navigation I have to believe the instructions are recent:


*Using drag and drop with NVDA to rearrange column headers in
Mozilla Thunderbird *

If you would like to move a column from one area to another in the email header, you will need to tab from tree view into your email message list. Next put NVDA into object navigation mode. Use the NVDA key + the number 1 on the numeric keypad to do this.

If I wanted to move a particular column to another location (IE before or after the current column) I would do the following in the header of the email.

From the message list, I would press the NVDA key + the number 4 on the numeric keypad until I heard the name of the column I wanted to move (for example Status). I would then press NVDA + Numpad divide (above the number 8 on the numeric keypad) to route the mouse pointer there. Then you would press Shift + Numpad divide again to lock the left mouse button. Press the NVDA key + Numpad 4 again a number of times until you hear the name of the column immediately before the column I want to move the selected column to (for example next to unread). Press the NVDA key + Numpad divide to put the mouse pointer there, and press the Shift key + Numpad divide to unlock the left mouse button.

Please note: You can also use the NVDA key + the number 6 on the numeric keypad to move it back the other way then unlock it in that position.

Now, when you arrow down or up your messages, you will notice the difference when NVDA reads it out.


For an audio tutorial on how to insert and remove columns in Mozilla Thunderbird, as well as moving your column from one position to another using drag and drop with NVDA, please visit the following link https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/64177841/adding%20or%20removing%20columns%20plus%20drag%20and%20dropping%20in%20mozilla%20thunderbird.MP3

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Re: The mail app in windows 10

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I notice on coolblindtech a tutorial about using it with narrator; and I thought i heard how to do these things.; However having looked at this; it does seem awfully limited even less advanced than Outlook Express was. I think Microsoft could do themselves a favour here by simply making Outlook express hacked version I use official and junking the poor excuse for a mail app they have no doubt spent about ten minutes writing from scratch.; Oh cynical; me?; grin.; Brian


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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene New Zealand" <hurrikennyandopo@outlook.co.nz>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 8:46 PM
Subject: [nvda] The mail app in windows 10


Hi guys

Just a quick question. In windows 10 in the mail app is there a way of
replying to a message or even forwarding it on? I can not seem to find
any buttons or no matter what I do to reply to a message or forward one.
fIs this the way the app is designed more just to read and delete etc.

I did also notice that when you typed in to the message of the body plus
the subject line there was no key echo, but would read back what you typed.

I was seeing if it worked or not as one of my hotmail accounts refuses
to work now and no matter what I do in mozilla thunderbird to make it
work is no longer working.

Gene nz




Re: The mail app in windows 10

Salva <sadm@...>
 

Hi.
Thanks, David.
Salva

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El 21 nov 2016, a las 22:12, David Moore <jesusloves1966@...> escribió:

Hi Salva,
Here is a link to my text tutorial for the mail, people, and calendar apps, and the second link to an audio tutorial that a friend did. You will have two tutorials. My written tutorial goes into a lot more detail about using the mail, calendar, and people apps together to get one email client experience. Just press enter on the links, and you can download the tutorials right to your computer. Here are the links:
 
Let me know how I can be of anymore help, and ask questions.
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
 
From: Salva
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 4:04 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] The mail app in windows 10
 
Hi.
I’m interested in the tutorial. Can you send it to me?
Thanks
Salva

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El 21 nov 2016, a las 22:02, David Moore <jesusloves1966@...> escribió:
 
Hey Gene,
The neat thing is that the commands are a lot like the ones in Windows live mail. With NVDA, it is so much better to use the review cursor commands instead of using the arrow keys. NvDA does not say what you type in the mail app. Work needs to be done with NVDA to work in the mail app as good as JAWS does. JAWS works great! For some reason, NVDA does not work as well as it use to in the mail app. I hope they can make those fixes in 2016.4.
Let me know if you want my tutorial. I go into much detail on how to use the mail, people, and calendar apps.
Take care, Gene.
David Moore
 
 
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
 
From: Gene New Zealand
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 3:46 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] The mail app in windows 10
 
Hi guys
 
Just a quick question. In windows 10 in the mail app is there a way of
replying to a message or even forwarding it on? I can not seem to find
any buttons or no matter what I do to reply to a message or forward one.
fIs this the way the app is designed more just to read and delete etc.
 
I did also notice that when you typed in to the message of the body plus
the subject line there was no key echo, but would read back what you typed.
 
I was seeing if it worked or not as one of my hotmail accounts refuses
to work now and no matter what I do in mozilla thunderbird to make it
work is no longer working.
 
Gene nz
 
 
 
 
 

 


Re: how do you perform these updates

 

for java.
an easy way for us is by typing in the following commands
iexplore www.java.com
click download
click aggree uncheck any add boxes before you do so, hit alt n
select run.
wait, wait.
hit alt i when prompted.
wait, wait, hit alt u when prompted this may appear or not.
finally hit alt c when prompted.
Or winkey r for run then type control
hit enter.
find java hit enter.
control tab to updates.
hit check now then download.
or in start menu search for java con and it should pop up as configure java or java control panel.
For adobe, type dc or adobe or acrobat into start search box.
open adobe reader dc.
hit alt h for help
scroll to check for updates.
hit download.
alt tab to adobe and close the program.
eventually an update notification icon will appear in systray.
hit that icon and select install.

On 22/11/2016 4:13 a.m., ken lawrence via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi listers ken with a question. I repeatedly get, new notifications from both java and adobe saying updates are available click here but by the time you do anything the balloon or icon is gone. the notification isn’t in the action senter on windows 10. the computer had been on for over two hours before they popped up this time. all my screen reader sees is the microsoft edge running pandora window. these are apparently critical updates. how do I get to them manually to allow the updates to install. it is only on the screen for a fraction of a second. by the time NVDA is saying click here to comtinue there is no here to click.


changing my name in the outlook address book

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, everyone,

 

I came back to outlook. When my nephew set it up for me today, he put my nickname as my display name. How do I change it so my full name will be displayed?

 

Thanks for your help in advance.

 

Rosemarie


Re: Using Notepad++?

 

I could not find anything but the git Hub community has been aware of some of the shortcomings so I hope someone will make a podcast or something sometime. Below is just one of many threads about NVDA issues I found so people are well aware of the accessibility issues. I know it is not what you asked for but these kinds of links were all I could find. https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/1701        


Re: colum headers in thunderbird

William Sallander <wsallander@...>
 

Hello Brian:


Everything works like a charm now. Thanks much for the help.



On 11/21/2016 3:46 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:

William, the following is a cut and paste from an accessibility central webpage (see here) regarding using NVDA and Thunderbird.  Since the method suggested for what you wish to do involves object navigation I have to believe the instructions are recent:

Using drag and drop with NVDA to rearrange column headers in Mozilla Thunderbird 

If you would like to move a column from one area to another in the email header, you will need to tab from tree view into your email message list. Next put NVDA into object navigation mode.  Use the NVDA key + the number 1 on the numeric keypad to do this.

If I wanted to move a particular column to another location (IE before or after the current column) I would do the following in the header of the email.

From the message list, I would press the NVDA key + the number 4 on the numeric keypad until I heard the name of the column I wanted to move (for example Status). I would then press NVDA + Numpad divide (above the number 8 on the numeric keypad) to route the mouse pointer there. Then you would press Shift + Numpad divide again to lock the left mouse button. Press the NVDA key + Numpad 4 again a number of times until you hear the name of the column immediately before the column I want to move the selected column to (for example next to unread). Press the NVDA key + Numpad divide to put the mouse pointer there, and press the Shift key + Numpad divide to unlock the left mouse button.

Please note: You can also use the NVDA key + the number 6 on the numeric keypad to move it back the other way then unlock it in that position. 

Now, when you arrow down or up your messages, you will notice the difference when NVDA reads it out.


For an audio tutorial on how to insert and remove columns in Mozilla Thunderbird, as well as moving your column from one position to another using drag and drop with NVDA, please visit the following link https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/64177841/adding%20or%20removing%20columns%20plus%20drag%20and%20dropping%20in%20mozilla%20thunderbird.MP3

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    ~ Lauren Bacall

    




Using Notepad++?

 

Hello,
I am considering a migration over to Notepad++. What settings do people recommend?
Also has anyone managed to get the list boxes in the settings (like the list of keyboard shortcuts) to read out?
Also, is there any way to have NVDA read the current line after one jumps in between paragraphs?
Is there any way to hear the code suggestions while typing?
Is there any way to hear the number of unmatched braces in the file?
Thanks,


Re: The mail app in windows 10

David Moore
 

Hi Salva,

Here is a link to my text tutorial for the mail, people, and calendar apps, and the second link to an audio tutorial that a friend did. You will have two tutorials. My written tutorial goes into a lot more detail about using the mail, calendar, and people apps together to get one email client experience. Just press enter on the links, and you can download the tutorials right to your computer. Here are the links:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/desa0pbdxor1jy5/Tutorial%20for%20the%20Mail%2C%20People%2C%20and%20Calendar%20apps.txt?dl=1

 

https://www.dropbox.com/s/kbacb8j0c7sj48s/DemonstrationOfTheMailAppInWindows10ByBobEdenhofer.mp3?dl=1

Let me know how I can be of anymore help, and ask questions.

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Salva
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 4:04 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] The mail app in windows 10

 

Hi.

I’m interested in the tutorial. Can you send it to me?

Thanks

Salva

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El 21 nov 2016, a las 22:02, David Moore <jesusloves1966@...> escribió:

 

Hey Gene,

The neat thing is that the commands are a lot like the ones in Windows live mail. With NVDA, it is so much better to use the review cursor commands instead of using the arrow keys. NvDA does not say what you type in the mail app. Work needs to be done with NVDA to work in the mail app as good as JAWS does. JAWS works great! For some reason, NVDA does not work as well as it use to in the mail app. I hope they can make those fixes in 2016.4.

Let me know if you want my tutorial. I go into much detail on how to use the mail, people, and calendar apps.

Take care, Gene.

David Moore

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Gene New Zealand
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 3:46 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] The mail app in windows 10

 

Hi guys

 

Just a quick question. In windows 10 in the mail app is there a way of

replying to a message or even forwarding it on? I can not seem to find

any buttons or no matter what I do to reply to a message or forward one.

fIs this the way the app is designed more just to read and delete etc.

 

I did also notice that when you typed in to the message of the body plus

the subject line there was no key echo, but would read back what you typed.

 

I was seeing if it worked or not as one of my hotmail accounts refuses

to work now and no matter what I do in mozilla thunderbird to make it

work is no longer working.

 

Gene nz

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: The mail app in windows 10

Salva <sadm@...>
 

Hi.
I’m interested in the tutorial. Can you send it to me?
Thanks
Salva

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El 21 nov 2016, a las 22:02, David Moore <jesusloves1966@...> escribió:

Hey Gene,
The neat thing is that the commands are a lot like the ones in Windows live mail. With NVDA, it is so much better to use the review cursor commands instead of using the arrow keys. NvDA does not say what you type in the mail app. Work needs to be done with NVDA to work in the mail app as good as JAWS does. JAWS works great! For some reason, NVDA does not work as well as it use to in the mail app. I hope they can make those fixes in 2016.4.
Let me know if you want my tutorial. I go into much detail on how to use the mail, people, and calendar apps.
Take care, Gene.
David Moore
 
 
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
 
From: Gene New Zealand
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 3:46 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] The mail app in windows 10
 
Hi guys
 
Just a quick question. In windows 10 in the mail app is there a way of
replying to a message or even forwarding it on? I can not seem to find
any buttons or no matter what I do to reply to a message or forward one.
fIs this the way the app is designed more just to read and delete etc.
 
I did also notice that when you typed in to the message of the body plus
the subject line there was no key echo, but would read back what you typed.
 
I was seeing if it worked or not as one of my hotmail accounts refuses
to work now and no matter what I do in mozilla thunderbird to make it
work is no longer working.
 
Gene nz
 
 

 
 


Re: The mail app in windows 10

David Moore
 

Hey Gene,

The neat thing is that the commands are a lot like the ones in Windows live mail. With NVDA, it is so much better to use the review cursor commands instead of using the arrow keys. NvDA does not say what you type in the mail app. Work needs to be done with NVDA to work in the mail app as good as JAWS does. JAWS works great! For some reason, NVDA does not work as well as it use to in the mail app. I hope they can make those fixes in 2016.4.

Let me know if you want my tutorial. I go into much detail on how to use the mail, people, and calendar apps.

Take care, Gene.

David Moore

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Gene New Zealand
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 3:46 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] The mail app in windows 10

 

Hi guys

 

Just a quick question. In windows 10 in the mail app is there a way of

replying to a message or even forwarding it on? I can not seem to find

any buttons or no matter what I do to reply to a message or forward one.

fIs this the way the app is designed more just to read and delete etc.

 

I did also notice that when you typed in to the message of the body plus

the subject line there was no key echo, but would read back what you typed.

 

I was seeing if it worked or not as one of my hotmail accounts refuses

to work now and no matter what I do in mozilla thunderbird to make it

work is no longer working.

 

Gene nz

 

 

 

 


Re: colum headers in thunderbird

 

William, the following is a cut and paste from an accessibility central webpage (see here) regarding using NVDA and Thunderbird.  Since the method suggested for what you wish to do involves object navigation I have to believe the instructions are recent:

Using drag and drop with NVDA to rearrange column headers in Mozilla Thunderbird 

If you would like to move a column from one area to another in the email header, you will need to tab from tree view into your email message list. Next put NVDA into object navigation mode.  Use the NVDA key + the number 1 on the numeric keypad to do this.

If I wanted to move a particular column to another location (IE before or after the current column) I would do the following in the header of the email.

From the message list, I would press the NVDA key + the number 4 on the numeric keypad until I heard the name of the column I wanted to move (for example Status). I would then press NVDA + Numpad divide (above the number 8 on the numeric keypad) to route the mouse pointer there. Then you would press Shift + Numpad divide again to lock the left mouse button. Press the NVDA key + Numpad 4 again a number of times until you hear the name of the column immediately before the column I want to move the selected column to (for example next to unread). Press the NVDA key + Numpad divide to put the mouse pointer there, and press the Shift key + Numpad divide to unlock the left mouse button.

Please note: You can also use the NVDA key + the number 6 on the numeric keypad to move it back the other way then unlock it in that position. 

Now, when you arrow down or up your messages, you will notice the difference when NVDA reads it out.


For an audio tutorial on how to insert and remove columns in Mozilla Thunderbird, as well as moving your column from one position to another using drag and drop with NVDA, please visit the following link https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/64177841/adding%20or%20removing%20columns%20plus%20drag%20and%20dropping%20in%20mozilla%20thunderbird.MP3

--
Brian

Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.  If you’re alive, it isn’t.

    ~ Lauren Bacall

    



The mail app in windows 10

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi guys

Just a quick question. In windows 10 in the mail app is there a way of
replying to a message or even forwarding it on? I can not seem to find
any buttons or no matter what I do to reply to a message or forward one.
fIs this the way the app is designed more just to read and delete etc.

I did also notice that when you typed in to the message of the body plus
the subject line there was no key echo, but would read back what you typed.

I was seeing if it worked or not as one of my hotmail accounts refuses
to work now and no matter what I do in mozilla thunderbird to make it
work is no longer working.

Gene nz


Re: Comments in Word

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Kelby,

From what you say, it sounds like you're doing the right things.  If you're able to share the file with me off-list I'd be happy to have a look for you and see if it's doing anything strangely.

Otherwise, what version of Word are you using?

Regards

Quentin.

On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 1:29 AM, kelby carlson <kelbycarlson@...> wrote:
All,

I'm having a couple of issues reading comments in a word document:

First, when I arrow to a comment, it will temm me what the comment is,
but pressing alt-nvda-c doesn't read the comment to me, it just says
that it's there. Second, when I press nvda+f7 and arrow to comments,
it doesn't show any comments in the tree view even though I know there
are a number of them.

Help is much appreciated.






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Re: colum headers in thunderbird

majno
 

You can do it using the mouse. I think is the only way right now.

El 21-Nov-16 a las 2:59 PM, William Sallander escribió:
Greetings everybody:


I have the latest version of Thunderbird and I wish to re-arrange the column headers.

I've been all over the place and can't seem to figure out the correct procedures to accomplish this.

It seemed like it was possible in earlier versions.

Any ideas anyone?




colum headers in thunderbird

William Sallander <wsallander@...>
 

Greetings everybody:


I have the latest version of Thunderbird and I wish to re-arrange the column headers.

I've been all over the place and can't seem to figure out the correct procedures to accomplish this.

It seemed like it was possible in earlier versions.

Any ideas anyone?


Re: how do you perform these updates

Chris Mullins
 

Hi Ken

As suggested, have a look in your System tray accessed using Windows+b.  Depending on your configuration, you may or may not have all background programs displayed here as you use the arrow keys to scroll through the icons.  If you land on a button described as ‘Notification chevron button’, press the spacebar, then use up arrow to navigate the overflow notification toolbar.  You will find a button to launch your Java updates in here.

 

Cheers

Chris    

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of ken lawrence via Groups.Io
Sent: 21 November 2016 15:13
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] how do you perform these updates

 

Hi listers ken with a question.  I repeatedly get, new notifications from both java and adobe saying updates are available click here but by the time you do anything the balloon or icon is gone.  the notification isn’t in the action senter on windows 10.  the computer had been on for over two hours before they popped up this time.  all my screen reader sees is the microsoft edge running pandora window.  these are apparently critical updates.  how do I get to them manually to allow the updates to install.  it is only on the screen for a fraction of a second.  by the time NVDA is saying click here to comtinue there is no here to click. 


Re: how do you perform these updates

Mallard
 

Hello Brian,

Many thanks for this one. I'm going to install it myself, and recommend it to other visually impaired and sighted friends alike.

Ciao,

Ollie

Il 21/11/2016 16:37, Brian Vogel ha scritto:

Following up Gene's mention of avoiding having bundled potentially unwanted programs (PUPs) installed, I cannot recommend anything more highly than Unchecky <https://unchecky.com/>. I initially learned about this and suggested installing it only to my blind and visually impaired clients, but very quickly dropped that limitation and now recommend it to all. I use it myself so that if I get in a hurry and miss one of those checkboxes I should have unchecked it is done for me.

Yes, it runs constantly as a background process, but its resource footprint is incredibly small and light. If you want to avoid PUPs, which have become so common since the scourge of endless bundling as become /de rigueur,/ Unchecky is an excellent tool for doing so and is the PUP equivalent of an antivirus scanner.
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Re: Set application-specific dictionary

Salva <sadm@...>
 

Hi.
I think we have not this function, but in the nvda spanish list we were talking about this the last week. Noelia said that this is a request for that.
Salva

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El 21 nov 2016, a las 17:45, majno <alfred.hl@...> escribió:

And replace words with sound also would be great!    


El 21-Nov-16 a las 11:32 AM, Olcay AŞCI escribió:
Hi everyone
 
I know there is no such feature but; Is there a suggestion yada plugin for this? This issue is very important.
 
Windows 10 için Posta ile gönderildi
 



Re: Set application-specific dictionary

majno
 

And replace words with sound also would be great!   


El 21-Nov-16 a las 11:32 AM, Olcay AŞCI escribió:

Hi everyone

 

I know there is no such feature but; Is there a suggestion yada plugin for this? This issue is very important.

 

Windows 10 için Posta ile gönderildi