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Re: NVDA and windows 10

Chris Shook <chris0309@...>
 

Hi all,
Thanks again for all the help. I've got internet explorer on my desktop now. One last question I just thought of.
Is there anything I need to turn off to prevent microsoft from keeping track of my internet activity?
Thanks
Chris


Re: windows10 and antiVirus programs

 

Georgi,

        As you already have been told the antivirus protection that comes with Windows 10 is Windows Defender and it is active by default

        As you also already know, you should never run two antivirus programs on the same machine because each generally thinks that the other is a threat based on the methods they use to do their jobs.  Essentially an antivirus program often looks like a virus to a second running antivirus program.  They then attack each other and engage in a fight to the death, so to speak, usually hobbling your computer.

        It is up to you what antivirus program you wish to use.  If you install a third party antivirus like Avast I do not know of any of them that do not disable Windows Defender as a part of their own installation process.  Most of the better ones will actually re-enable Windows Defender as part of their uninstall should you decide to uninstall the third-party antivirus.

        I've used a lot of antivirus programs over the years, and can count on less than one hand the number of infections any one of them has caught.  That's mostly because of my web browsing hygiene, as I call it.  If you have looked at the virus quarantine locations in whatever antivirus programs you might have been using over the years, and don't generally find anything there, then any decent antivirus program will be more than sufficient.  If you find that the virus quarantine locations have been well-populated, then you need to be particularly focused on getting an antivirus program with a very high detection rate that doesn't go over the edge into detecting things that aren't viruses as if they were (and that has happened with some products).  From my perspective, if you have a lot of quarantined material, you'd be better off doing a thorough examination of both your browsing habits and what browser-based extensions might help you to avoid infections in the first place.
--
Brian

I worry a lot. . . I worry that no matter how cynical you become it's never enough to keep up.

         ~ Trudy, in Jane Wagner's "Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe"

    



Re: NVDA and windows 10

Chris Shook <chris0309@...>
 

Brian,
Thanks for the help.
I really appreciate the step by step instructions.
Chris


Re: NVDA and windows 10

David Moore
 

Hi Chris,
Once you make IE your default browser, you can pin that icon to the task bar, or even better yet, you can put the IE icon right on your desktop. Here is what you do to put the IE icon right on your desktop.
First, type internet in the start search edit area and you should hear Internet explorer desktop app. Press the applications key and down arrow to open file location and press enter. You will hear that you are on Internet Explorer where it is actually located. Now, press the applications key again, and down arrow to send to sub menu and press enter. Down arrow to create short cut to desktop or something like that and press enter. That is it, you will now have an icon on your desktop.
Now, you can also pin the IE icon to your taskbar, and that is easier. To do that, just type Internet in the search edit, and press the applications key and down arrow to pin to task bar and press enter. That is it for pinning the Icon to the taskbar. Now, to get to your icons on your taskbar, they are called buttons, press Windows+T and right and left arrow through the buttons until you hear Internet Explorer and press enter. Also, if you press Windows+T, the first button you land on is the first taskbar button. Count from their as you press the right arrow how many times you have to press the right arrow to get to Internet Explorer. For example, let's say you find out that the Internet Explorer is the fourth button on the taskbar. Now, to open Internet Explorer, all you have to do is press Windows+4 on the numbers row. You can open any program pinned to your taskbar in this way. If it is the 7th button, open that program by pressing Windows+7 on the numbers row. If you do what I said at first to get Internet Explorer on the desktop, you simply press Windows+M to focus on the desktop and press I until you get to the Internet Explorer icon and press enter. Lastly, you can create a short cut key command to open Internet Explorer like ALT+CTRL+I since I is the first letter. To create this short cut command, find Internet Explorer on your desktop, and press the applications key. Up arrow once to properties and press enter. You will be on the short cut page of the dialog. Just tab to the edit field where you can simply type I or another letter. The ALT and CTRL are automatically added for you. Then, tab and make sure that it is set to open maximized. Then, tab to the okay button and press enter. Well, there it is. I have shown you how to put the icon on your desktop, pin it to the taskbar, how to create a short cut key, and how to press Windows+a number to open Internet Explorer. Of course, when you get the icon on your desktop, just press Windows+D or Windows+M and press I until you hear Internet Explorer and press enter. Take care, Chris, and I hope this all makes sense.

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Shook
Sent: Friday, May 27, 2016 5:06 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and windows 10

Hi Rui,
Thanks for getting in touch. I have one quick question.
If I make internet explorer my default brouser, will I need to move the
icon somewhere so I can find it? If so, how do i do this?
Thanks
Chris


Re: NVDA and windows 10

Rui Fontes
 

Hello!

One way is going to Start menu, find Internet Explorer, normally in All
apps, Accessories, and press Applications key and choose more and then Add
to TaskBar, or something like that...

Other way is going to Desktop, unselect all itens, press Applications key,
choose New, Shortcut and create a shortcut to Internet Explorer...

I am sure there are other ways...

Rui


-----Mensagem Original-----
De: Chris Shook
Data: sexta-feira, 27 de maio de 2016 22:06
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: Re: [nvda] NVDA and windows 10

Hi Rui,
Thanks for getting in touch. I have one quick question.
If I make internet explorer my default brouser, will I need to move the
icon somewhere so I can find it? If so, how do i do this?
Thanks
Chris


Re: NVDA and windows 10

 

Chris,

           You won't need to have a desktop shortcut or one in the start menu or taskbar/quick launch bar, but I'm never without at least one, if not both, of those for when I want to simply start the web browser (or any other program I frequently use stand alone rather than, say clicking through on a link).

Here are the generic instructions for getting a shortcut on to your desktop for a good, old-fashioned application program like IE11.  It involves a little bit, but not much, extra work under Windows 10.

1. Hit the Windows key then start typing the name of the program you wish to make a shortcut for.  In this specific instance, Internet Explorer.

2. In most cases, and you should always check, if your search criteria was specific enough that program will be the first entry in the search results.  Your screen reader will announce the application name followed by "desktop app" if it's actually what used to be called a program as opposed to the new universal apps.  If it's not the first returned result use the down arrow key to check what else has come back until you find the program you're looking for in the returned search results.  Hit whatever key or key sequence is necessary to invoke the context menu, usually the menu/application key or SHIFT+F10

3. Once the context menu comes up, use the down arrow to get to "Open file location."

4. Now the File Explorer window will be open with the program file or its shortcut selected already.  It doesn't matter which.  Again, hit the key or key sequence to bring up the Context Menu.  Hit 'N' to activate the Send to menu item, then hit D to take you to the Desktop, Create Shortcut option and hit Enter.

5. You now have a desktop shortcut.

6. If you wish to pin this shortcut on the quick launch bar or start menu:

              a) Open File Explorer and choose Desktop from the Tree View

              b) Locate the shortcut you wish to pin and make sure it is selected

              c) Again, bring up the Context Menu

                          i) Hit the letter P to pin the shortcut to the Start Menu.  Be aware that the 'P' is a toggle in this context, and if the shortcut happens to already be pinned to the Start Menu this will UNpin it.

                     OR

                         ii) Hit the letter K to pin the shortcut to the Taskbar/Quick Launch Bar.


Brian


--
Brian

I worry a lot. . . I worry that no matter how cynical you become it's never enough to keep up.

         ~ Trudy, in Jane Wagner's "Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe"

    



Re: NVDA and windows 10

Chris Shook <chris0309@...>
 

Hi Rui,
Thanks for getting in touch. I have one quick question.
If I make internet explorer my default brouser, will I need to move the icon somewhere so I can find it? If so, how do i do this?
Thanks
Chris


Re: windows10 and antiVirus programs

Gene
 

Avast is a much better thought of program than Windows Defender or MSSE.  You shouldn't have more than one antivirus program running simultaneously.  Windows Defender is more accessible but you said you are already using Avast so you evidently know how to use it, despite the accessibility difficulties. 
 
If you are asking which program to use, that's for you to decide.  But, as I said, Avast is considered far superior.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, May 27, 2016 3:48 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] windows10 and antiVirus programs

George. You have Windows Defender BTW not MSE.


On 5/27/2016 3:02 PM, Георги Ламбов wrote:
> Hi group!
>
> Maybe this question was already discussed but I just today decided to
> get windows10. As good as I know, windows10 comes with its own antiVirus
> program and this is: microsoft security essentials. Otherwise, my
> antiVirus program is avast, and microsoft security essentials and avast
> don't like one another. So I think, that in this situation my computer
> will rest without defense. Is it right and have I to unInstall avast?
>
> Cheers!
>
> Georgi
>
>
> ---
> Този имейл е проверен за вируси от Avast.
> https://www.avast.com/antivirus
>
>
>
>




Re: NVDA and windows 10

Lino Morales
 

Well ask it here. I'm sure someone maybe me can help you out.

On 5/27/2016 4:01 PM, Chris Shook wrote:
Hi,
Could someone that has experience running NVDA with windows 10 contact me please?
I just have one quick question for you.
My email address is: chris0309@...
Thanks
Chris


Re: NVDA and windows 10

Gene
 

The list is for asking questions.  The answers may benefit others.  Instead of asking for private messages, unless something is very obscure and you are sure no one would be interested, questions should be asked on list.  Even in the case of obscure questions, it is often better to ask on list. 
 
If you ask for private responses, no one will know if others have answered the question.  You may get many duplicate answers. 
Also, if you take threads off list, you won't necessarily know if someone has given the best answer.  One of the purposes of lists is for people to comment on and correct or improve answers, if corrections or improvements are in order. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, May 27, 2016 3:01 PM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and windows 10

Hi,
Could someone that has experience running NVDA with windows 10 contact
me please?
I just have one quick question for you.
My email address is: chris0309@...
Thanks
Chris



Re: windows10 and antiVirus programs

Lino Morales
 

George. You have Windows Defender BTW not MSE.

On 5/27/2016 3:02 PM, Георги Ламбов wrote:
Hi group!

Maybe this question was already discussed but I just today decided to
get windows10. As good as I know, windows10 comes with its own antiVirus
program and this is: microsoft security essentials. Otherwise, my
antiVirus program is avast, and microsoft security essentials and avast
don't like one another. So I think, that in this situation my computer
will rest without defense. Is it right and have I to unInstall avast?

Cheers!

Georgi


---
Този имейл е проверен за вируси от Avast.
https://www.avast.com/antivirus



Re: NVDA and windows 10

Rui Fontes
 

I am running NVDA in Windows 10 since several months...

Rui


-----Mensagem Original-----
De: Chris Shook
Data: sexta-feira, 27 de maio de 2016 21:01
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: [nvda] NVDA and windows 10

Hi,
Could someone that has experience running NVDA with windows 10 contact
me please?
I just have one quick question for you.
My email address is: chris0309@...
Thanks
Chris


NVDA and windows 10

Chris Shook <chris0309@...>
 

Hi,
Could someone that has experience running NVDA with windows 10 contact me please?
I just have one quick question for you.
My email address is: chris0309@...
Thanks
Chris


windows10 and antiVirus programs

Георги Ламбов <obichamlegiona@...>
 

Hi group!

Maybe this question was already discussed but I just today decided to
get windows10. As good as I know, windows10 comes with its own antiVirus
program and this is: microsoft security essentials. Otherwise, my
antiVirus program is avast, and microsoft security essentials and avast
don't like one another. So I think, that in this situation my computer
will rest without defense. Is it right and have I to unInstall avast?

Cheers!

Georgi


---
Този имейл е проверен за вируси от Avast.
https://www.avast.com/antivirus


Announcing the start of NVDACon US planning phase

 

Dear NVDA users, developers and supporters, wider NVDA community, accessibility advocates and others, especially those living in North America:

 

On behalf of NVDACon organizers, I’m delighted to announce the creation of a group dedicated to NVDACon US planning, promotion and attendance.

 

The NVDACon US is a regional NVDA users and Developers Conference (NVDACon) spanning United States, Canada and Mexico, joining the ranks of gatherings such as NVDACon JP, NVDACon Korea, NVDACon Asia and others, as well as being a mini version of NVDACon International. Just like the international counterpart, NVDACon US seeks to allow North American NVDA users, developers, supporters and others interested in NVDA to come together to discuss latest NVDA happenings, tentatively scheduled for sometime this year.

 

Group information:

·         Name: NVDACon North America

·         Chair: Derek Riemer (University of Colorado at Boulder)

·         Purpose: Planning, promoting and attending NVDACon US 2016 and beyond

·         Group page: http://nvdacon.groups.io/g/us

·         Subscribing: first, subscribe to NVDACon list by sending an email to nvdacon+subscribe@groups.io, then subscribe to NVDACon US group by sending an email to nvdacon+us+subscribe@groups.io.

 

Besides North American one, the info for the other regional ones are:

 

NVDACon International:

·         Chair: Derek Riemer

·         Sponsor: NV Access

·         Scope: Worldwide

 

NVDACon JP:

·         Chair: Takuya Nishimoto

·         Scope: Japan

 

NVDACon Korea:

·         Chair: Joseph Lee

·         Scope: South Korea and Koreans abroad

 

NVDACon Asia:

·         Organizer: Bahvya Shah (India)

·         Scope: Asian continent

 

Thank you.

Sincerely,

Joseph


Re: nvda and calibre or other ebook management utilities

Life My Way
 

Here is the link for codex.

http://jscholes.net/project/codex/

On 5/27/2016 6:35 AM, Kevin Cussick via Groups.io wrote:
codex is the best program around. just google for it I am sorry don't have a url to hand.

On 27/05/2016 12:20, J.G wrote:
Hi,


does anyone on this list use calibre or simular management ebook tool? i
used it a while ago and found, that it is inaccessible. so can anyone
give me an advice how should i use this program or suggest an alternative?


i need it for conversion between formats, reading itself etc.


thanks, Jožef



Re: NVDA 2016.2 release candidate 1 is out, an audio tutorial on what's new in 2016.2 posted #NVAccess

 

Hi,
eSpeak NG: Not that I now of (except for new voices).
Windows XP support: yes, NVDA still supports XP, provided that you are using Service Pack 2 or higher. NV Access will eventually ask you to upgrade to Service Pack 3 at some point.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of nasrin khaksar
Sent: Friday, May 27, 2016 5:21 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2016.2 release candidate 1 is out, an audio tutorial on what's new in 2016.2 posted #NVAccess

hi joseph.
thanks so much for your great project.
may i ask you that does this new version support windows xp?
i read whats new and realised that added visual studio 2015 to this version.
i am afraid of unsupporting of windows xp!
and my second question is about espeak ng.
does have any significant and prominent changes in compare to the original espeak versions specially for english and farsi?
thanks extremely again and allah bless you.

On 5/27/16, Bhavya shah <bhavya.shah125@...> wrote:
Hi Tony,
What do you exactly mean by paragraph navigation? You can already
navigate paragraph by paragraph by pressing Ctrl + down/up arrow.
In case you have any further suggestion related to paragraph
navigation, please do file a ticket with NVDA on Github if you haven't
done so already, or comment on existing one if one that covers your
feature request exists. Most importantly, remember to be precise and
detailed and informative while making suggestions.
Thanks.

On 5/27/16, Tony James <megatronjames@...> wrote:
One of my paragraph navigation? Is that going to be implemented at
some point?

Tony JAmes, untouched and alive!

On May 26, 2016, at 8:15 PM, Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@...>
wrote:

You have a What's new document accessible through NVDA, Help menu.

Rui


-----Mensagem Original-----
De: Pranav Lal
Data: sexta-feira, 27 de maio de 2016 01:08
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2016.2 release candidate 1 is out, an audio
tutorial on what's new in 2016.2 posted #NVAccess



Hi Joseph and all,



I appreciate the work that goes into an audio tutorial. I however
prefer a

text version of the whats new document.



Pranav





From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Joseph

Lee
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2016 12:38 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2016.2 release candidate 1 is out, an audio
tutorial on what's new in 2016.2 posted #NVAccess





Hi,

I've seen this appear in Outlook, certain IE edit fields and what not.

Cheers,

joseph





From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mr.
Wong
Chi Wai, William
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2016 11:23 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2016.2 release candidate 1 is out, an audio
tutorial on what's new in 2016.2 posted #NVAccess





joseph, once again thanks for you detail demonstration.
I am not sure if I get it wrong or not, is the spelling error sound
is only functioning in MS Office Word? Or it is functioning as long
as office word

is installed and typing else where do have the sound effect?
Thanks.

Joseph Lee ? 26/5/2016 12:41 ??:



Hi everyone,



Yes, indeed the RC1 is out. Featuring spelling error sounds,
recognition of grammar errors and more, there's something for
everyone in this update.

The post from NV access can be found at:

http://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2016-2rc1-released/

Note: This is a release candidate. If everything goes as planned,
the official version will be out by next week.

Also, an audio tutorial on what's new in NVDA 2016.2 has been posted.
The

direct link is:

http://www.nvda-kr.org/files/NVDA%202016.2.mp3



Note that this might be last What's New tutorial (unless people say
I should continue to produce these). Enjoy.

Cheers,

joseph

















--
Warm Regards
Bhavya Shah
Using NVDA (Non Visual Desktop Access) free and open source screen
reader for Microsoft Windows To download a copy of the free screen
reader NVDA, please visit http://www.nvaccess.org/ Using Google
Talkback on Motorolla G second generation Lollipop 5.0.2 Reach me
through the following means:
Mobile: +91 7506221750
E-mail id: bhavya.shah125@...
Skype id : bhavya.09




--
Those who follow the Messenger-Prophet, the Ummi, whom they find written down with them in the Taurat and the Injeel [who] enjoins them good and forbids them evil, and makes lawful to them the good things and makes unlawful to them impure things, and removes from them their burden and the shackles which were upon them; so [as for] those who believe in him and honor him and help him, and follow the light which has been sent down with him, these it is that are the successful.
holy quran, chapter 7, verse 157.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages al-islam.org


Re: NVDA 2016.2 release candidate 1 is out, an audio tutorial on what's new in 2016.2 posted #NVAccess

 

hi joseph.
thanks so much for your great project.
may i ask you that does this new version support windows xp?
i read whats new and realised that added visual studio 2015 to this version.
i am afraid of unsupporting of windows xp!
and my second question is about espeak ng.
does have any significant and prominent changes in compare to the
original espeak versions specially for english and farsi?
thanks extremely again and allah bless you.

On 5/27/16, Bhavya shah <bhavya.shah125@...> wrote:
Hi Tony,
What do you exactly mean by paragraph navigation? You can already
navigate paragraph by paragraph by pressing Ctrl + down/up arrow.
In case you have any further suggestion related to paragraph
navigation, please do file a ticket with NVDA on Github if you haven't
done so already, or comment on existing one if one that covers your
feature request exists. Most importantly, remember to be precise and
detailed and informative while making suggestions.
Thanks.

On 5/27/16, Tony James <megatronjames@...> wrote:
One of my paragraph navigation? Is that going to be implemented at some
point?

Tony JAmes, untouched and alive!

On May 26, 2016, at 8:15 PM, Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@...>
wrote:

You have a What's new document accessible through NVDA, Help menu.

Rui


-----Mensagem Original-----
De: Pranav Lal
Data: sexta-feira, 27 de maio de 2016 01:08
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2016.2 release candidate 1 is out, an audio
tutorial on what's new in 2016.2 posted #NVAccess



Hi Joseph and all,



I appreciate the work that goes into an audio tutorial. I however prefer
a

text version of the whats new document.



Pranav





From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Joseph

Lee
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2016 12:38 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2016.2 release candidate 1 is out, an audio
tutorial on what's new in 2016.2 posted #NVAccess





Hi,

I've seen this appear in Outlook, certain IE edit fields and what not.

Cheers,

joseph





From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mr.
Wong
Chi Wai, William
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2016 11:23 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2016.2 release candidate 1 is out, an audio
tutorial on what's new in 2016.2 posted #NVAccess





joseph, once again thanks for you detail demonstration.
I am not sure if I get it wrong or not, is the spelling error sound is
only
functioning in MS Office Word? Or it is functioning as long as office
word

is installed and typing else where do have the sound effect?
Thanks.

Joseph Lee ? 26/5/2016 12:41 ??:



Hi everyone,



Yes, indeed the RC1 is out. Featuring spelling error sounds, recognition
of
grammar errors and more, there's something for everyone in this update.

The post from NV access can be found at:

http://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2016-2rc1-released/

Note: This is a release candidate. If everything goes as planned, the
official version will be out by next week.

Also, an audio tutorial on what's new in NVDA 2016.2 has been posted.
The

direct link is:

http://www.nvda-kr.org/files/NVDA%202016.2.mp3



Note that this might be last What's New tutorial (unless people say I
should
continue to produce these). Enjoy.

Cheers,

joseph

















--
Warm Regards
Bhavya Shah
Using NVDA (Non Visual Desktop Access) free and open source screen
reader for Microsoft Windows
To download a copy of the free screen reader NVDA, please visit
http://www.nvaccess.org/
Using Google Talkback on Motorolla G second generation Lollipop 5.0.2
Reach me through the following means:
Mobile: +91 7506221750
E-mail id: bhavya.shah125@...
Skype id : bhavya.09



--
Those who follow the Messenger-Prophet, the Ummi, whom they find
written down with them in the Taurat and the Injeel [who] enjoins them
good and forbids them evil, and makes lawful to them the good things
and makes unlawful to them impure things, and removes from them their
burden and the shackles which were upon them; so [as for] those who
believe in him and honor him and help him, and follow the light which
has been sent down with him, these it is that are the successful.
holy quran, chapter 7, verse 157.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org


Re: nvda and calibre or other ebook management utilities

Quentin Christensen
 

I use Calibre (and I'll caveat that by saying I do have enough site to use the mouse as well as the keyboard).

It actually has keyboard shortcuts for most things but they're not as obvious to find as they could be.  Here's a page with some: https://www.shortcutworld.com/en/win/Calibre.html

And here's the official manual: http://manual.calibre-ebook.com/

I haven't tried Codex that Kevin suggested, but just did a search and this looks like it: http://jscholes.net/project/codex/

Kind regards

Quentin.


On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 9:20 PM, J.G <jozko.gregorc@...> wrote:

Hi,


does anyone on this list use calibre or simular management ebook tool? i used it a while ago and found, that it is inaccessible. so can anyone give me an advice how should i use this program or suggest an alternative?


i need it for conversion between formats, reading itself etc.


thanks, Jožef




--
Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer

Ph +61 7 3149 3306 
Direct: +61 413 904 383
www.nvaccess.org 
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 


Re: nvda and calibre or other ebook management utilities

Kevin Cussick
 

codex is the best program around. just google for it I am sorry don't have a url to hand.

On 27/05/2016 12:20, J.G wrote:
Hi,


does anyone on this list use calibre or simular management ebook tool? i
used it a while ago and found, that it is inaccessible. so can anyone
give me an advice how should i use this program or suggest an alternative?


i need it for conversion between formats, reading itself etc.


thanks, Jožef